Dear Tailgaters - What Do You Want?

Hi all,

Just wanted to understand the perspective of tailgaters and also hear from others in how they deal with the issue.

TL;DR: Why do you tailgate? How do you stop others doing it to you, even if you're going at the limit etc?

My most recent scenario was last night. 2am on the M4, on my way home. Posted speed limit is 90, so I'm doing 90, in the left-hand-most lane out of three lanes. The motorway is entirely empty except for one car behind me, which speeds up and sits ridiculously close to my tail. I mean, at some point the headlights were partially disappearing in my rear view mirror because the car was pushing up so close! The other two lanes next to me are completely empty. He stays there for a good 4-5mins, and all I can think is how unsafe this is, but I refuse to go over the speed limit because he can clearly overtake. Finally, I tap on my brakes lightly to try and get him to back off - once. Twice. Three times. He finally gives me some distance, but after 30 seconds he's back again. Sits there for another few minutes, and again I tap my brakes which causes my car to slow down a bit.. down to 85, 84, 83.. and finally, he changes lanes into the middle lane and zooms off.

I do notice I get tailgated every now and then - perhaps as I'm a P-plater, or just by coincidence. When I do:

  • I check to make sure I'm going at the correct and max speed limit (eg if it's 90, I'll be going at 90). All good.
  • I'm usually in the left-hand lane by default. If it's a single-lane road, I'll try to pull over as soon as I can (eg into a small side street) and just let the person pass.
  • Otherwise, if it's a single-lane road and I can't pull over anywhere yet (or I don't feel like it sometimes!), then I'll just hold strong and keep going as I am. Same for if I'm driving on a multi-lane road and the tailgating car has clear opportunity to overtake, but chooses to continue riding up behind me instead. I refuse to be intimidated by people driving up riiiight behind me as if they can just will me to speed for them (at least, I refuse to be outwardly intimidated by it).
  • I almost never tap my breaks as I've heard it can incite road rage or whatever.. but in last night's situation, it was just so ridiculous and unsafe I felt that I had to do something, and it eventually worked.

So my question to all tailgaters is - what do you want from us?
Is it a game to see if you can intimidate other drivers? (in my situation above, I can honestly not think of a single other reason. Open to any opinions though!) Or is it that you just want others to go over the speed limit too? Or.. when you have an avenue of overtaking available.. why would you not take it? And if you don't have such an avenue, but the car in front IS doing the speed limit - do you expect us to break the law because you're in a rush / late for your meeting / etc? Are car's odometers just calibrated SO differently? (I have a digital one).

And to others who deal with tailgaters regularly - Beyond what I've already mentioned, do you have any additional tips or techniques or advice in how to further deal with the issue, for a fairly new driver? What's your approach, and your experiences?

TL;DR: Why do you tailgate? How do you stop others doing it to you, even if you're going at the limit etc?

Thanks in advance.

Comments

    • +5

      Sorry but you sound like a tool mate.

    • +4

      Dangerous and unnecessary. You need to reevaluate your choices in life mate.

    • -1

      Guys, the idiot is just trolling members. It's what he does and likes to do. Ignore the w****r. But the arrogant attitude is real, he's a truckie and you definitely need a brain to drive a truck right? You got the idea.

  • +2

    tailgaters get brake checked….
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eSE3fkeHAmo

  • Tailgaters, people who don't indicate, people who use the right lane to speed 10km over the limit. Where are the cops? I only ever see them when they're giving me a ticket for glancing at my phone at a red light.

    • They are in the same place when you're driving under the speed limit, nowhere to be seen. ;)

      • +2

        although i find slow drivers a little annoying
        some people do need to review the meaning of 'limit'

        limit is not equal to
        limit is not minimum value

        limit is maximum value allowed

  • This is one of the reason why rear end collisions is the top causes of accidents.. I just got rear ended last night on my way home from work. He wasn't tailgating me though but rather got distracted doing something on his phone.

  • Personally I tailgate if someone is going under speed, or they are slowing down the right hand lane in a multi lane road. My experience has been that the overwhelming majority will speed up and/or move to the left hand lane once they realise. I think some drivers are just complacent about whats going on and dont realise they havent sped up to the speed limit or that they're still sitting in the right hand lane.

    My daily commute consists mostly of highway/freeway driving and the number of people doing 80 in the 100 zone and sitting in the right hand lane is just ridiculous, and they always seem to move once they notice a car tail gating them, so I just assume theyre all oblivious or dont care how theyre effecting the rest of us until they get called on it.

    I think lack of policing of staying to the left, and people just not accelerating enough (especially when joining a freeway, so many merge into a stream of 80km/h cars while doing 60) is causing a lot of road issues.

    • Agree - just stay left!

      About the merging onto freeways, this is a real issue too. However, sometimes the merge / onroad ramp is ridiculously short, I mean 100-200m and I don't see how anyone can speed up from 60 to 110 in such a short distance. :/

  • Can't answer you kittykat as I don't tailgate.

    Yes even when the car in front is doing 25 in a 50 zone. I leave a safe distance and overtake when the chance comes.

    Don't get me wrong, I swear at them like mad man when they go slower than the posted limit. But mind is clear enough to keep a safe distance.

    • I like this. :) I'm much the same - I'll be annoyed, and wonder what's going on, but will just sit through it and overtake when possible. It also makes me realise I should just leave earlier next time, then my stress levels will be far lower if I know I'll still be early.

  • +1

    Slam your breaks or go to 40-50 and watch them shit their pants and think twice of tail gaiting again ;)

    No doubt it will end out in more road rage! Oh well! Don't try and push me out of the way if your in a hurry….change lanes and drive off if ur in a hurry

  • -2

    I have to admit that I do tailgate but only when it's absolutely necessary. (When the front car is driving on a right lane at a ridiculously low speed blocking me and other drivers behind for a ridiculously long time that is)

    I have been tailgated too and sometimes for right reasons. I understand the frustration of tailgaters and will move myself to a left lane even if I'm spot on speed limit. Who knows the guy may be in a hurry to go somewhere. Very rarely I have been tailgated for no apparent reason (as with OP's case) and I would personally ignore them.. Would even turn the mirror to avoid reflection of the headlight and enjoy my ride.. If he hits the car, that's going to be his fault anyways. Lol

    Then again, it's rare. Many other times I have always noticed that I have been driving either slightly under the speed limit (98km/h in 100km/h road for an example) or wrong lane. It's more of a case of us not maintaining the correct speed and sticking to left lane if we can't. I almost always use cruise control and whenever I see a driver driving in front of me at varying speeds from 85 to 105 km/h while I'm driving at steady 100km/h, I get frustrated. (Sometimes they are even talking over the phone or talking with the passenger next without any care for the car behind. Isn't annoying?)

    • +10

      you lost me at "I do tailgate".

    • +6

      "When absolutely necessary"? What exactly makes it necessary to drive dangerously close to someone?

      • Police chasing bad guys

      • -1

        There are really nice people on the road who must be treated the same way.. And there are selfish drivers who don't care about someone else's journey, whether that journey is an urgent one etc.. They just drive dreaming, or talking to the passenger, or talking over the phone (yep, I once had a guy talking laughing over the phone for over 5 minutes and during the whole time he was looking back enjoying the long vehicle line he had created.). Now when they have a big line of people behind them who also happened to drive 10km/h slower just because of that selfish guy at front, I don't see any other way of treating him than being 'not nice'. When I have been tailgated for right reasons, I have always felt bad and always have taken my vehicle to a side leaving the others to go pass me. Yes, it's dangerous if the tailgaters get too close to the front car (I don't) but for some really selfish lads out there tailgating is the only way to deliver a massage of being polite.

        • Why don't you just press the damn hornm what are you afraid of?. You are covering yourself from doing the wrong thing, yes of course, it is illegal.

  • -1

    I am guilty of tailgating but only ever on roads with multiple lanes when the "victim" is in the right hand lane, NOT overtaking, and doing a speed slower than what I am.

    It is sad, but I absolutely detest people slowing down other cars because they simply ignore the road rules (keep left unless overtaking) on high speed roads, and I know it's not an offense on low speed roads, but it still irks me because it's these "bottlecorks" that are contributing greatly to traffic congestion.

    I'm originally from Europe (Australian citizen for over a decade though) where everyone adheres to the "keep right unless overtaking", and "victims" REALLY get flashed and honked at, although it barely happens because the left lanes are clear over there. (yes it's backwards in the countries I speak of but the principle is the same)

    People insist on sitting in the "fast" lane here for no apparent reason (not overtaking) with as result there's usually a long gaggle of cars stuck behind him/her/non gender specific.

    I know it's not the case for the OP, but I know that's why a people who don't adhere to that principle do get tailgated. In Europe they'd cop a lot more, but as I said it rarely happens over there.

    • +2

      you lost me at "I am guilty of tailgating".

      • -2

        Thanks for letting me know. Maybe I should have lead with "a lot of people are guilty of not obeying the road rules and sit in the right hand lane while not overtaking as a result holding up numerous amounts of other commuters".

        Don't know what to tell you. I'm used to it being acceptable to flash and honk people who do that. I restrain from doing that at least. I'm not sure anything is technically acceptable here in Australia. The police certainly don't do anything about it so….I guess I just have to accept I'm not a popular guy for tailgating in that situation I just find it very hard to understand why the people sitting in the right lane are always seen as such "victims" when they are clearly breaking the road rules and seem to be totally oblivious to it. (or don't care).

        The argument seems a little one sided but I'll cop it on the chin. Cheers.

        • +1

          Maybe because they're doing something that inconveniences you for several minutes, whereas you are putting peoples lives at risk?

  • +2

    I had someone tailgate me yesterday on the way home from work, I was going the speed limit so I'm not sure what their probably was, anyway I decided to have some fun and slowed down to 30km/h for a good kilometer, causing them to get closer and high beam me, which was pointless because they were that close to the back of my car I couldn't even see their headlights.

    Anyway, to answer your question: some people are just assholes, others are impatient, although I'm guilty of the occasional tail-gate when people are driving under the speed limit.

  • +2

    Apart from tapping the breaks, I like to wave madly at the rear view mirror (between the two front seats) like i've just found a friend I haven't seen in decades. The tailgater sees me and eventually becomes weirded out it seems and slows down / passes me.

    Other than that, put your hazards on and slow right down but gently.

    As for why they do this in situations where clearly it is gridlock (and nothing to gain) or there is room for them in the overtaking lane: Well, stupidity. Some people cannot think ahead nor past their immediate feeling. EG oh noes im late for that thing I need to get to - I feel upset and need to tailgate regardless of it's futility - It will somehow get me there faster!! Then you pull up next to each other 10 lights down the road….

    There are many reasons. You can't fix stupid.

    • +2

      I love it when someone overtakes me in a huge rush and puff, and then I slowly cruise up to them at the lights. And every next set of lights for a while. :P

  • +2

    If I'm getting tailgated I slow down until it stops as it is unsafe.

  • +1

    I used to drive a big 4WD and was never tailgated. I have recently downsized to a Toyota Echo and I am constantly tailgated. I drive exactly the same and stay at the speed limit. People just don't seem to like to be behind a tiny car.

    • +1

      It would be kinda dumb to tailgate a vehicle larger/taller than yours, as it would impair the ability to get a good vision of the car/traffic infront of the car you're tailgating. Thus, in an event where traffic has stopped ahead, you won't have enough time to react as you can't see anything!

      • Driving a big 4x4 doesn't make any difference for me. In fact other 4x4 drivers seem to see it as an additional challenge to tailgate another 4x4

  • +4

    One of the more memorable tailgaters I've had the pleasure of encountering was late one evening on the drive from Canberra to Sydney a few months ago.
    I was the only car on the road and happily driving at 110 km/h (with the cruise control) on a straight part of the highway. Quite rapidly, a car comes racing up from the distance to get right up my rear. I can't see the headlights he's so close.
    My SOP for tailgaters is to click of the cruise, ease off the accelerator and let the car slow down a notch or two on its own. They usually back off, bugger off or get pissed off. A piece of advice for you tailgaters in the third category – fingers and yelling will only get you slower speeds, laughter and excited waving from me.

    Anyway, I’m not sure what they were thinking because I'd slowed down to around 35 km/h before he got the message, went around me and sped off. Ordinarily I wouldn’t go so slow, but it was late at night, there was no-one else around and I wanted to see how slow we could go.

    I do occasionally tailgate, but I try not to. Sometimes it can't be helped, especially if I'm in a hurry, or the driver in front is driving like a tool (sitting in the right hand lane, matching the speed of the driver they were just tailgating, which they then decided to slightly overtake). Once I realise I'm doing it, I slow down.

  • +1

    Story of my life.

    Gotta love it when it's a 60 zone and I'm going by that speed but majority of people seem to not GAF and do 70-75. I end up getting tailgated down that stretch nearly every single damn time.

    • +1

      Very true, it's incredible. ANZAC bridge here - I swear I'm the only car ever doing 60.

    • +1

      Often tail gated through a 40 school zone near my house.

      • +2

        That's appalling. 40 school zones are implemented for obvious reasons. Some people are just stupid.

  • +5

    If someone is tailgating you, give your windshields a good spray of water. Spray off is surprisingly very irritating.

    • if only your cars have water guns, that would been a more direct response….

    • Ahah - nice idea.

  • +1

    OP get a tailgating sticker from ebay when there is 20% off.

    • Love it!

    • I got one saying "my brakes are good, is your insurance?" and an obvious camera. Makes no difference.

  • +2

    "I'm usually in the left-hand lane by default. If it's a single-lane road, I'll try to pull over as soon as I can (eg into a small side street) and just let the person pass."

    I would never do that if I am not wrong. Infact, I usually slow down in this situation and sometimes flip the bird if they beep, then speed up again if they try to overpass you in opposite lane.

    I admit during peak times in morning if I am running late to work, I sometimes accelerate faster than most cars but tend to stay with in speed limits. I hate people who drive slow in right lanes (even left for that matter at peak hours), especially those 4WD's covering your whole view, you can't tell if there is anyone slow in front of them or not, but never tailgate if there is an option available to switch lanes. However on the way back, when I am tired and out of energy, I drive on speed limit and accelerate normally, and everything I do in the morning happens back to me sometimes. One might say "Karma bitch".

    • Yeah, I think I'm being too nice. :)

      Interesting how your driving changes between morning vs night.

      • +1

        haha yes morning I am rushing to go to work, after snoozing in 4 times. Evening, all tired and out of energy, and in no rush to go home, I drive normally.

  • +4

    Get a big obvious rear dashcam.

    There is also no need to brake check. Just ease off the accelerator until the tailgater decides its no fun anymore.

    • +1

      I agree with your method, but it doesn't always work. There seems to be a class of tailgaters who are merely inexperienced drivers and know no better, and they'll stick to your rear bumper. So I modify your method a little, I gradually slow down to maybe 5kph below the speed limit, then speed up again, as though I am being inattentive to my speed.

      This tends to make them pass or back off, without annoying anyone, and without doing anything that could be identified as illegal or dangerous.

      • If that's the case then you should just change lane, and if they follow they don't fall into that category.

        • Mostly I drive on single-lane roads. My technique works on such roads.

    • Yeah I definitely need some dashcams!

  • Going to throw out another scenario where the tailgating was not intentional. Perhaps the other driver was off their face (drunk/drugs) and was oblivious to their surrounds.

    • +1

      Same as unintentional murders when one is "off their face". Makes it ok then?

      • Just means there will be no schooling those people about how they are driving since they are so out of it.

  • +1

    Tailgating seems to be a very Australian thing.
    I put it down to driving long distances and little trafic on the road, you check any expat site and its the first thing people from other countries remark upon. You cant do it when traffic is constantly stop starting like the UK for example.
    It still shits me after 12 years of living here….and seems worse in Victoria than other states i have lived for some reason.
    You always think it will be some young hoon but i have slowed down to have young mums to old grandads be the culprits. Its like no one knows of the 3 sec rule of distance

    If anyone backends me I will be suing for whiplash, and taking an extended holiday from work at the person who did its expense

    • Yep, I was tail gated my a professional looking mum in an expensive car, with her kid hanging between the front seats, no seat belt. He kept falling over when the traffic and I slowed.

      • Poor kid, it's his mum who should be out of the gene pool.

  • +1

    You say this happens often - have you checked how much your speedo is out by? Get/borrow a GPS and see what the reading is. They are more accurate than speedometers. My car is 6% out @ 100. So if my speedo says 100 i'm actually doing 94.

    • So if the op is doing 94 in the left lane, he deserves to be tail gated because the tail gater wants to do 100 as per his calibrated gps?

      • In no way did I imply this at all. Please don't make wild assumptions.

    • I've heard this. I do have my GPS on most days, and yes I've noticed my speedo is 5-6km below. So, like you, my speedo will say 100 and I'm doing 95 or 96 according to my GPS. Thus I give myself a few extra k's leeway.

      But I shouldn't have to worry about my speedo's calibration and what the 'real' speed is yadda yadda. I'll just stick to what my car's speedo says! Not my fault that's how the car was made, and as far as I know at the time, that's my speed.

      Thanks for your thoughts though! :)

      • +1

        I only say this because if you hadn't tested this could be the reason for it happening a lot. When my sister got her first car she kept getting tailgated all the time in her first month of driving which was distressing for a new driver. It wasn't until we were going to a family gathering and following her that we realised her speedometer was off by over 10km. She ended up getting it fixed.

        Unfortunately many people are scumbag drivers and tailgating does happen sometimes by impatient (profanity). Try to ignore them and keep traveling at a consistent speed.

        • The speedo on my 2014 model car is currently off by about 4-5 kms, I asked to get it looked at in my yearly service & they advised that it was within the 10% variance legally allowed, which resulted in me getting tailgated quite a bit when I first got it.

          My friend & I are working on a theory that a lot of new cars speedo's are intentionally off by a few kms to reduce speeding by tricking people into thinking they are doing the limit, when in fact they are under it.

        • @salbee28: i believe other variables such as tyre wear & inflation may allow for discrepancies between actual and perceived

        • @franco cozzo: Oh definitely, but unfortunately it's been off since I drove it out the lot with brand new freshly inflated tyres :(

        • @salbee28: ah yes… see your point now

    • Used to think this until I got done by the cops. Gps on my phone is clearly not accurate enough.

  • I only read the first few comments, so I skipped to the solution:
    Some other posters have, or should have suggested my solution also.
    I have a dual facing camera system installed. If I have any problems with idiots, (you know who you are), I take the video card to the police station, where they note registration plates and any absurd actions that are recorded, then visit them and ask them to please explain.
    Usually ends in suspended licence, impounded car and/or jail time.
    Problem solved

    • +3

      I also have an obvious rear facing camera, but they don't seem to care (probably think it's my fault for being in their lane).

      If I the took the recordings of everyone who tail gated me in the left lane at just 5 ks under the limit to the cops, it would be a full time job.

      They also don't care about my 4mm steel rear bumper and huge tow hitch sticking out, which would destroy the front end of their car.

    • +1

      Great idea. Would you recommend your camera system? And can I ask how much it cost to install? (I've seen lots of threads around here about dashcams, but mostly front ones only).

  • +2

    When this happens to you, lay off the accelerator, and naturally slow down to the point where it's unbearable to be behind you, they'll move eventually.

    It's their job to maintain a safe distance behind you and not accelerate into your rear, if you slow down they should be reacting, and they shouldn't hit you, but they will not enjoy driving so slowly.

    If you've reached a speed around half of the roads speed limit at this stage you're probably driving too slow and the tailgater is deliberately pissing you off, so depending if your car is powerful enough you can simply accelerate away and they'll be gone, if it's not, then pull over if possible. It's incredibly stressful and dangerous for this to go on, and the driver behind you is either a complete maniac or is out to kill you, if they also pull over, make sure they're not cops (sirens would be telling) then take off.

    Finally, I tap on my brakes lightly to try and get him to back off - once. Twice. Three times.

    Brake checking is about as degenerate as tailgating btw, and whilst he was tailgating you, you were both creating a dangerous situation as a result.

    • +1

      Thanks - yes the slowing down approach sounds like the best thing to do. I wasn't sure if it was worse / more anger-citing than what I did, though.

      As for my brake-checking, I didn't actually slow down at all. I barely tapped the breaks so they lit up, but I was still cruising at the same speed. I would definitely never suddenly slow down or try to cause a scene.

      That said, the slowing down seems better than trying to get my brakes to light up!

      • Pressing the brakes in order to create a dangerous situation for the tailgater is considered brake checking, as actually braking hard would result in a collision. (Checking is pretending in order to get them to back off.)

        If you want to actually use the brake, that's also fine, but I would ease it on, because you don't want to be rear-ended, even if you wouldn't be out of pocket (it's a waste of time).

        To correctly respond to your brake lights, the tailgater needs to aggressively swerve to avoid a collision, but in most scenarios they will call your bluff.

        • -1

          Or you could use the handbrake, no brake lights then, and if its an older vehicle you will get a nice smoke show from it as well.

  • I haven't driven with P plates for about 2 years and haven't been caught yet :^)

  • Tailgating is a national sport, especially in Melbourne. It's the most difficult form of dangerous driving to get away with if you do hit the car on front, so it's quite an achievement to always tailgate, avoid crashing or successfully blame someone else when you do crash.
    So for people who do it constantly for no reason, it's something to be really proud of in their lives.

    • It's terrible isn't it! Awful in Sydney too.

  • +2

    Release your gas, until he gives up because you are too slow.

    Sometimes however, trucks and buses can't be bothered to change lane, and they love to hug their speed limit.
    In that case, you better switch to the right, and let them take over.

    You are not wrong, just saver.

    In an accident, whether there is injury or not, it's not a matter of whose fault, it's the headache to fix/replace the car is not replaceable by insurance.

    • Yeah I've noticed trucks who do this. Maybe they're on cruise control? (Do trucks even have cruise control?)

      • +1

        They sure do - but its a secret

      • +1

        Its called a speed limiter, once you hit the limiter (which by law is set at 100kmh give or take depending on tyre wear etc) thats it.

  • Buy one of those dashcam, and install at the back for proof.

    • That's exactly what I think I need to do!

      • Does your car have cigarette lighter at the back?

        • Nope. :( Toyota Yaris. Only one at the front. I already have a cigarette lighter port splitter to give me 2 ports instead of one.

          Does each dashcam need one port? Or are there systems that are powered by one, but can do both front/rear cams on that single one?

        • @kyttiekat: you can get double-adapters for them, including extension leads for them with an extra socket at the plug end.

          Update: not quite what I described, and also sold out of Kogan right now, but here's an example widget

          Update to update: multiple pages of options at oZBargain favourite site gearbest.

        • @kyttiekat: I think you just need a usb port, but cable from front to back is very long.

  • I know of a driving instructor that used to slam on the breaks when someone was tailgating him.

    • Yikes! Dangerous.

  • +2

    At peak hour this happens to me more often, sometimes they show off their longest finger, not sure why not the thumb.

  • +5

    If I'm already doing the speed limit or slightly over, and I get tailgated, I suddenly have a dirty windscreen and need to activate the washer jets. I then notice that the car behind me also has to wipe his windows..

  • Trying to understand why people tailgate when you're at or above the speed limit, when they have ample opportunities to overtake or when you're justifiably driving slow (learner, old timey car, heavily loaded vehicle, etc.) is kind of a waste of time; I doubt many of these people are really capable of providing any kind of sound reasoning for their actions.

    I'm not sure what it was like in the years and decades before this but when I did the green Ps and full licence tests a few years ago they really emphasised the importance of keeping a safe distance and how rear ending a car due to following too close is the most common accident for fully licensed drivers. In saying that though, I do get a little close when someone is driving slow in the right hand lane in the hope that they will either speed up or change lanes but I'll back off after a couple of seconds. The number of people who dawdle along in the right lane without care or consideration for anyone else is pretty frustrating.

  • "Me see tailgater, me slow down. They see me slow down, they hating it"
    I don't normally hogging the far right lane and give way to others. But if you're a (profanity), don't expect me to be nice.

  • +1

    If you're in the left lane, who gives a damn. Let him get frustrated. Just make sure you're doing the right speed and its all legal. Main thing is to not give money to them traffic cops, how else you going to buy bargains?

    I admit that I get frustrated with right lane hoggers who are under the speed limit and tend to tailgate a bit before overtaking on the left. However as I coast past to give me angry "Why you do dis to me" stare I see their old granny face and I feel ashamed for being a prick.

  • +2

    I think some people just have no idea that they are way too close. Some people think that 'a couple of meters' is plenty of room between cars, regardless of speed - and just don't understand. These same people can be seen stopped at traffic lights with about a car length or two between them and the car in front - again, for them, 'a safe distance' = some constant value, regardless of speed.

    What to do? Well, I think you did the right thing - a) ignore, and b) failing that, slow a little so they will pass.

    • +1

      Alternately, if you have a (soft!) drink handy, wind down your window, and, firmly holding your drink in your right hand, place it on the roof of your car, and just hold it there. Suddenly, they will back off ;)

  • +1

    You think you're going at 90. But is your speedo calibrated? My speedo is calibrated every 6 months and when I sit on the speed limit, I pass everyone.

  • +2

    I find with Melbourne traffic if you leave even half a car length between you and the car in front someone will undoubtedly try and shove their car in the space, so most of the time you have stick close. As for tailgating, I like to go the speed limit where possible. More often than not I'm behind someone who has a free road up ahead, but refuses to drive the limit. Sometimes as low as 30kmh below. But then when I'm at the front doing the speed limit, I'm always getting hounded by cars who want to speed… You just can't win. Cities are horrible, hateful places. It just rubs off on you, and everyone eventually turns into an arsehole. Especially on the roads.

  • I suspect they do it as they're either trying to get you to speed up OR they don't understand physics (the increased accident risk they are creating).

  • +1

    Tailgating. Who cares.

    I mean, if I had $1 for every time I was properly tailgated, I might have a couple hundred bucks.

    If I had $1 for every time I saw some stupid moron texting or tweeting or looking at their phone while driving and swerving all over the road I'd be a multi millionaire.

    Not surprised the road toll in VIC has increased this year because every moron with a phone wants to use it as soon as they get in their car. The sooner the police introduce $10000 fines for phone use while driving, the better and safer for everyone, especially pedestrians.

  • Whilst I generally don't tail-gate, I do admit to "wood-ducking". Perhaps this is what O.P. was experiencing?

    E.g. if there are several cars in the middle lane (who may, for example, going 10km/h over the limit), I would join their convoy in the middle so they set the pace (and the person at the front / rear will be more exposed to police radars, animals on road etc…), hence I am tailgating at a relatively safe distance.

    I do drive a tall 4x4 nowadays so I'm not intimidated by people tailgating me. It helps knowing I have a bullbar front and rear. I used to find whenever I drove the wife's Suzuki Swift, I would have angry soccer mums tailgating me in their RAV4's…

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