Calling all Singaporeans of Victoria (SOV) members..
Get yourself a FREE drink on any meal purchase only at Kaki Lima 🎉🎊🎉🎊🎉🎉
Quick, cheap, and tasty meals + FREE drink.. what else can go wrong? come in store and claim yours now!! 😆😆😆
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Kaki Lima
Building 80, 1 Stewart Street, Melbourne VIC 3000
03 9995 4655
kakilima.com.au
Please feel free to visit SOV website (http://sov.sg/home/?page_id=536) directly or reach them via email ([email protected]), to find out more about the SOV membership
Please feel free to post a deal for your fellow members of OzBargain which does not exclude almost all of them. If we need to know about SOV membership, you would have told us more about it in your description.
Only for singaporeans?
Yeah, I know but don't.
Your comment dissuaded me from negging earlier. But I honestly believe it is discriminatory.
Surely this is discriminatory
SOV members fella.
rofl
Funniest thing to come out of "Tony Abbott".. Reverse Racial discrimination. haha
There is no such thing as reverse racism! White hates black = racism. Asian hates white = racism.
@bchliu:
Ah yes, that most scholarly of academia websites, Wikipedia. I see you know your judo well.
@Test Tickles: No less real when people put a branding against the logic of an inverted racism criteria. Academia it isnt, but no less appropriate to current affairs of society.
At the very least it's a targeted offer. If this isn't a targeted offer I don't know what is.
it is mostly labor and greenies going 'muh free ethnic food now!'
Let me check my calendar…..yep 2016 :/
? is this only for a select few ??? outway the needs of the many ??
Well. I. Never. Harrumph!
I see it happening .. Next will be for white people only => apartheid => new martin luther king => black lives matter => wéll have enough of it and all go to kfc
SOV is a student-initiated and student-led organisation that was established in 2010 and functions on a voluntary basis with the purpose of providing for and serving our members and, to make them feel as homely as possible here whilst being away from home.
Damn - only for Victorians. How discriminatory ;-)
Enjoy the food, lah🍜☺
But on OzBargain, a free drink with a meal hardly counts as a bargain.
Taken from the SOV.sg website: ( http://sov.sg/home/?page_id=536 )
"The Privileged Scheme was established on the foundation of creating a ‘Home away from Home‘ for Singaporean students and working professionals in Victoria."
Damn.. Really only for Victorians? I'm voting against this as well given the customer's requirements are rather narrow and the premise of this club is literally selected racial group based upon their website.
Singapore doesn't have their own racial identity just so we're clear …
mostly Chinese, yes. but same prob when we said asian. which one? japanese, chinese, korean, malay, even indian is part of asian too
Try mistakenly calling a Singaporean a "Chinese", "Malaysian", "Indonesian" or a "Filipino" and I beg to differ from your assertion.
Doscrimination against others much, next thing you know another promotion will be "Free Meal for White People"
Bottom line - discrimination is not a bargain
You'll find that for causes like foreign students, this is probably allowed legally and reasonable. It's no different than woman only gyms imo
boost juice promo did the same thing. if your name xxxx you'll get 50% off.
I'm sure you are of the opinion that everyone who lives in Australia should just be called "Australia" as their first name and Singaporeans should all be called "Singapore" as their first name?
Stupid? Yes, but no different from your logic.
@bchliu: if aboriginal people using their native name they won't be called andrew or smith:) same as asian's names.
can I get your opinion whether black power is viewed in the same negative light as "white power"?
Well black power for the most part is viewed as affirmative action, though I'm not sure how a free drink in a foreign country and skin colour are connected ..
i cannot believe this deal is posted, someone out there
Negging because this deal is apparently only available to Singaporeans in Victoria. I admit I'm curious about how many OzBargainers qualify. As if Singapore is a real place!
Isn't Singapore part of Malaysia?😆
Certainly not. It is part of Narnia.
You're trolling now since they got forcefully removed from the Malaysian Federation to form their own nation. (Ended up being a very good thing)
Thats one more reason why Singaporeans have their own identity as their own nation.
malaysia, brunei, singapore and indonesia wanted to form into one big country, but british didn't like it. same happened to arab countries.
Rewriting history with the best. haha..
to be fair, if you check out their instagram they also give special promo for indonesian students. next time maybe they will give promo to local australian (aboriginal) students
Don't hold your breath.
for All Singaporeans of Victoria
what else can go wrong?
Discrimination is illegal in Australia.
How about we do a deal for everyone except Singaporeans? Or how about a deal for white people only? That's not any different to this…
touché
Such a simplistic world you inhabit, jv. Populist opinions are next to useless.
I've fought & won a discrimination case in Australia, based on denial of a service because of my nationality. So I'm not one to treat discrimination lightly. (It was settled out of court - probably to avoid adverse publicity. Contained a confidentially clause, the only downside. The money & agreement to change the company's policies relating to discrimination were the benefit. My outcome has helped others in Queensland to mount action for discrimination based on nationality.) It was very hard to prove. Legal opinion was that I had no chance, so took the case on myself.
Different jurisdictions have different legislation. What is discriminatory in 1 State is not in another. You have to decide whether to fight the case in Federal or State court, with different legislation. And it is a long (about 2 years in my case) & usually expensive process.
That's far from the simple assertion that Discrimination is illegal in Australia.
And the business could turn around the next day & repeat the action which led to the court case - the only redress would be to start complex & lengthy legal action again.
But to claim a student based group who arrange a discount or benefit for it's members is discriminatory, because others don't get that benefit (a free drink in this case when paying for a meal) is ludicrous.
That's the basis of joining a group - generally what's in it for me. That's what most groups do for the benefit of their members - otherwise there is little reason to be a member of that particular group.
eg credit/ debit card benefits like a free bottle of wine with a meal (CitiBank), loyalty cards for discount prices, etc which may be available to all, or a select few based on an one's job, income level, age, religion, location, gender, nationality, etc.
Your suggested solution is to act with discrimination in retaliation. Good one jv 😵
But to claim a student based group who arrange a discount or benefit for it's members is discriminatory, because others don't get that benefit is ludicrous.
So I could start a club for white people only, and run events and functions and offers only for white people, and that would be OK? Same logic… just replace 'white' with 'singaporean'…
Ah simplistic again.
And you are erroneously confusing skin colour with nationality - some Singaporean students could join the whites only group you propose. Not same logic. Nationality is (usually) easy to objectively determine based on a Passport, but who determines the shade of whiteness for your new White Australia group? I don't like where that is heading for someone crying "discrimination"!
Check the relevant acts. Groups for various causes & groups have existed a long time, to benefit their members.
My guess is most people belong to groups that provide benefit only to their members. And that membership may depend on their gender, age, income level, job etc, excluding others or giving them lesser membership.
Besides, non-Singaporeans can join the club & get a free drink at this unrelated business! According to a comment below.
The SOV didn't post this deal, & this business does not determine membership. So where's the discrimination? Why the outrage towards a restaurant?
Certain Pokemon-Go teams got benefits in previous deals by this business. Bloody discrimination ;-)
Besides, non-Singaporeans can join thr club
I checked yesterday and couldn't find any evidence that they could…
@Infidel: but who determines the shade of whiteness for your new White Australia group? I don't like where that is heading for someone crying "discrimination"!
rofl did you just intimate jv was some sort of "white australia" racist for questioning this deal? Holy crap you went the "victim" card real quick. Lost all credibility here.
@COR80:
So I could start a club for white people only, and run events and functions and offers only for white people, and that would be OK? jv
Breath deeply. It was not serious & makes sense in the context you left out. I don't think jv is anything. (I thought jv is just a computer program, spitting out popular or unpopular comments, then fleeing to the next deal.)
I was meeting jv's argument that such a group's membership requirements would be similarly offensive as jv considers those of the SOV.
That was a ridiculous comparison by jv, but Same logic… just replace 'white' with 'singaporean'… according to jv. Australia has spent so long down that white path before. So I countered similarly, to show the stupidity of that thinking. Skin colour & nationality are not comparable as jv asserts.
I had credibility? Why thank you, I think.
But I've no idea what you mean by "victim" card as a good white boy of British ancestry going back generations, born & bred in Oz. No one ever gave me one of those cards. Sounds useful. Where can I use it & do I get a free drink? How do I join?
Ja'mie: Seriously Bec, Qantas is doing some good deals on one-way tickets to China. Why don't you buy one?
Bec: I'm not even from China. I'm from Singapore, you idiot!
Ja'mie: Asia, China. Same thing.
Unaustralian
What about this Krispy Kreme promotion which was for customers "who have previously visited, or hold passports from, Italy, Argentina, Mexico or England": https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/256066
OP probably just needed to word their promotion a little differently (e.g. Singapore passport holders) and I'm sure it would be less controversial.
Wow. A lot of people getting their knickers in a twist because they don't get a free drink with their meal. I didn't confirm because I'd rather just get a free meal from one of the places offering them currently. If you really really really want that drink, I'd suggest looking into getting an associate membership with Merlion Melbourne and whether you get an SOV card, as it says members of associate clubs get an SOV card and it is an associate club. Seems to be free to join.
If that doesn't work out, I'm sure they'll give you a free water if you go there for a meal, so either way, free drink without becoming a Singaporean citizen.
They haven't put an end date though, so if that's not enough you can still look into Singaporean citizenship and see what it will take.
I think there is just a fair few Pauline Hanson voters here
Ad Hominem does not help your cause.
I don't have a cause, just an opinion and I'm sorry that my sarcasm is too advanced for you 👍
You give Asians and Ethnic people a bad name by labeling everyone else a Pauline Hanson supporter. Oh sorry.. My Sarcasm is too bad - Just truth hurts.
You're getting a little bit worked up over a generalised comment. I don't give Asians and Ethnic people a bad name because I don't speak for them. At least we can agree your sarcasm is bad though. Maybe if you conveyed your thoughts in English instead of Latin, I'd of had a vague clue what you were talking about 👍
I'm ethnically Chinese and born overseas but I have downvoted this deal and I would do the same if it was a Chinese Society type deal as well mainly because of the fact that the spirit of this forum should be opened for everyone without the ties to racial, religious or other discriminating factor. It is different for example, if it was an open event for everyone to attend regardless of background then it would be quite good as it is inviting everyone to participate.
A closed event like this based on nationality is what is the problem here. I do not mind these within the community, but it is not exactly a deal that belongs here because I feel bad for those that miss out. Whilst you can argue that "anyone can join" the SoV, the spirit of SoV as I have previously quoted from their webpage is "The Privileged Scheme was established on the foundation of creating a ‘Home away from Home‘ for Singaporean students and working professionals in Victoria." - Notice the words of "Privileged Scheme" and "for Singaporean students and working professionals" that I have an issue with.
because you're not singaporean:)
Bravo!! Well done in recognising that. (Coo coo??)
Neither are 99% of the people in OzBargain who this "bargain" does not apply to.
Amex used to promote itself as American Express - Membership Has It's Privileges.
All groups attract members by offering privilege. Supermarket loyalty cards also do that, even if it's just a few cents saved.
I think people forget what that word means. It sounds far better than benefits, but means the same for members.
In this case, they've arranged a free drink if a meal is paid for - wow, such a privilege.
Another way to attract members is exclusivity. In this case, student members will join in activities & get support from people from their home country. Again - pretty normal.
Many overseas students join in activities organised by groups & churches from their home country.
How is that suspect or discriminatory?
As for membership of a "Privileged Scheme", there's HSBC's home&Away Privilege Program. Lots of membership programs use the term "Privilege" and offer excludive member only offers.
these nerdic people are like "muh free ethnic food"
+1'd every neg vote for freedom of speech. I hate that ppl are so reluctant to neg deals.
You've been a member of OzBargain for years, but don't seem to understand or ignore the community's Voting Guidelines?
A Neg vote is for specific problems with a deal, not because you don't like an aspect of the deal.
Appropriate uses of negative vote
Cheaper price elsewhere
Defective product
Major issue with product in that it doesn't work the way it should.
Major issue with retailer
(eg Didn't receive previous purchase. Shipping time exceeding expected wait.)
As far as Negging as an act of freedom of speech… lol.
That's what comments are for - freedom of speech, as shown by your comment.
Rather Negging may remove the deal from the Front Page, reducing people accessing your beloved freedom of speech.
And the business in this case may not be able to post another deal for some time. That's really against freedom of speech, but that's the current community Guideline.
If there is something really wrong with the deal, report the problem.
Similarly, negging comments you don't like just removes freedom of speech, as it makes it hard to see the comment.
This business has posted a few deals to specific groups & apparently offers other discounts.
All deals can't be for all OzBargainers. That would severely limit freedom of speech.
But these deals haven't been that great, by OzBargain standards imho. Upvoted to counter the "discrimination" outrage of those negging.
But then, a few inappropriate negs have been removed.
Rules are rules, but when they have little to no correlation to how the system works, they should be ignored. Practically: People read a post, see it has 100 +ve votes and press Buy It Now. They don't read every comment. A - ve highlights that someone has a contrary argument to the deal being as good as advertised. A single or few negs don't mean the OP is bad or has done something wrong.
PS - I never mentioned anything about negging comments.
Practically: The reality was this post would not have received many upvotes as it would be of little interest
- a free drink is not that attractive to most when paying for a meal,
- few qualify.
This deal has received far more attention than it deserves. Surprised anyone other than members of SOV bothered reading the deal.
So justifying your "free speech" argument for the extended use of neg votes to stop everyone mindlessly "buying" this deal - just is a justification for your views, not a valid reason. It can shut down free speech, rather than support it.
I never said you had said anything about negging comments. That's why that comment starts with Similarly,…. It deals with another issue of shutting down free speech.
Many are intimidated by receiving negs & may not post another comment or deal. Others are trolls who measure their success by the effect of their provocative comments & love negs.
But unless you are willing to sacrifice, you aren't really a believer in anything. I've had political police stationed outside my home to stop people meeting with me. The State newspaper ran a front page denouncing my encouragement of oppressed people, saying I was staging an armed uprising against my Government. I was just encouraging people to think & stand up for themselves. And where did this happen - here in Australia, a while back!
I don't change my stance on - ve votes based on what the deal is.
I'm sorry you're having a tough life, and obviously the use of 'free speach' has upset you. I know more about free speech than not being able to meet with people. Clearly I was using the term in the colloquial sense.
Those that are put off by a small amount of negative feedback perhaps shouldn't be online?
FYI - 'similarly' does not automatically exclude your reference to the person you were originally addressing.
Wow there's so much whinging in this thread… Seriously, they are offering a deal for members of an expat club.
Not a member of the club and don't qualify to join? Too bad. Go join another club and reap the benefits of that one.
If you're not an expat of Singapore why would you want to join their expat club anyway?
A lot of angst over a drink…
haha, because they're not singaporean (same as me by the way, but am not upset)
Why so much whinging?, screw the drink, this is about discrimination against others which I am totally against
It is tempting to join SOV and post on their website a deal exclusive to OzBargain members. OP likes that sort of thing.
Wow. Just wow…
You do understand not all discrimination is negative right?
Flashed your seniors card for your free coffee at maccas lately? No? Don't have a seniors card? Don't qualify for a seniors card? That's discrimination.
You might want to read up on positive discrimination: https://www.humanrights.gov.au/quick-guide/12078
SOV is a social club for Singaporeans. If you really want in, you can join up - it's open to non Singaporean citizens http://merlion.org.au/join/. You're joining now right??
For a free drink with a purchase? Screw that.
@Bearosaurus: But we established this wasn't about the drink previously.
Ignoring the bit about positive discrimination suggests to me you aren't so "totally against discrimination against others"…
That is seniority. Everybody qualifies when they reach that age, regardless of ethnicity or origin, which is right because we are all in Australia.
This Associated OP posts a deal knowing hardly any members qualify for, specific to ethnicity, which is wrong because we are all in OzBargain.
@PJC: call it what you want, it is still a form of discrimination (read the human rights.gov.au link for the government's take on it)
Of course there's a link to ethnicity - it's a Singaporean expatriate association.
Luckily everyone qualifies as, you can still join SOV even if you aren't Singaporean (take a look at the merlin link).
Or you can just continue ignoring all reason and keep proclaiming it's (negatively) discriminatory and racist and negging everyone that suggests otherwise.
I've got a hunch I know which you'll choose…
@mrandyree: The Associated OP joined OzBargain 2 months ago to sell stuff and shot himself in the foot posting a deal inaccessible to almost every fellow member … purely due to an ethnicity-targeted policy decision of his store. A clearer mind would have attracted more revenue by offering all members a deal which now obviously discriminates against almost all members. Please show me where I proclaimed "racist". I negged this deal, but not "everyone that suggests otherwise" and indeed nobody whatsoever on this thread. It is generally better to rely on facts than a hunch.
@PJC:
You confuse ethnicity (racial ancestry - whatever that may mean in 2016) with nationality (country of origin). Singapore has people from diverse ethnicity. So the membership of the SOV is not based on ethnicity as you claim.
@PJC: I quite like facts myself.
* Here's a fact: Singaporeans and non-Singaporeans can join the Merlion Club http://merlion.org.au/join/. What? No discrimination? That can't be!
* Here's another fact: by joining the Merlion Club, you are "automatically enrolled into this programme (SOV) and will be issued a SOV Privilege Card at no extra cost" http://sov.sg/home/?page_id=536
* Oh look, another fact: anyone (Singaporean or otherwise) who has joined Merlion Club and has been issued a SOV Card can walk into this store, fulfil the purchase requirements and claim their free drink.
Anyway, that's enough of my time and effort spent here. Your factually incorrect opinion probably won't get changed, so whatever…
@mrandyree: " … factually incorrect opinion …"
Where did I proclaim "racist"? When did I neg "everyone that suggests otherwise" or indeed anybody's comment on this thread? Your sudden "quite like" of facts is commendable, so please provide factual support of your earlier comment.
If we need to know about SOV membership the Associated OP would have told us more about it in the description. You and I are here at OzBargain, and this is where we come to learn about bargains. Even OP does not mention Merlion Club, but he certainly joined OzBargain to attract revenue, and even now neglects to explain why he left it to yourself to discover joining Merlion provides indirect access to his "bargain".
Clearly this is a targeted offer and you require a membership that is only attainable by a small cross-section of the community. Shouldn't be eligible to be posted.
only attainable by a small cross-section of the community. Shouldn't be eligible to be posted.
So what is the cut-off point for a valid deal? Quantity wise, a deal is valid if 10 are available. I'd be surprised if there weren't at least 10 here who qualify for this deal.
If a deal is posted that is only available in an isolated location, Shouldn't be eligible to be posted? Most deals don't interest me, so Shouldn't be eligible to be posted?
Come off it.
OzBargain had it's early use by Asian students in Oz, as far as I understand. I think I attended the first OzBargain meet up - a largely Asian gathering. OzBargain is a broad community with different backgrounds & interests. (Sorry Tony!)
Not every deal will be of interest to all, and some are for members of clubs etc, which most aren't members of.
Targeted? Have you reported it as such? If not, you really aren't serious.
All deals are in some way. But there are exceptions to that guideline.
This business has offered deals to different groups. Have you contacted the business - they may give you the free drink with paid meal offer anyway.
Don't know why we're discussing such a mediocre deal this much anyway.
I'm off for a FREE meal at Vapiano - members only of course ;-)
Mate I am an Asian student in Australia, but that doesn't change the fact that this deal discriminates against people of certain backgrounds. This deal requires a membership that is not freely attainable, and is in fact only attainable by people of a certain birth.
Contrast this with deals that require memberships that can be purchased or joined by a vast majority of the population for free.
Only 48,647 Australian residents were born in singapore at the last census . Just over 0.2% of the population at that time.
I understand that ozbargain has an affiliation with a Singaporean bargain site but a double standard should not be allowed to develop.
For your information I have reported this as a targeted deal and encourage others to do so as well.
So the mods considered your Report… and determined it was not valid as targeted.
Those previous Pokemon-GO team only deals by this business are safe now from being seen as targeted 😀
So it's true - Tony Abbott is an Asian ;-) People used to say Australia is an Asian country.
I don't know what your country of origin has to do with this complaint?
It's a regular refrain in various forms, to somehow give authority to the complaint.
I am an Asian… Somehow others have no right to question that person's opinion, based on the person being from a vast region of many different cultures & most of the world's population. That sounds discriminatory.
[I've won a discrimination case in Australia (settled out of court). The case rested around refusal to provide services based on my nationality - it was a costly case for the business. A Government anti-discrimination agency uses my case as a precedent. Proving discrimination is harder than it seems. I don't think this would fly as discrimination under the law.]
Many ads & offers are discriminatory or targeted to sections of the population. That's how businesses bring in profitable trade.
For example, OfficeWorks offered a discount only to overseas students studying in Australia. They were targeting a lucrative market. Didn't see the outrage when posted here. (OfficeWorks did not post that deal. Found in an overseas students mag.)
Regular Amex deals are only available to cardholders, which require a sizeable income. Many here miss out. Targeted? Discriminatory? But regularly posted.
So why the outrage here?
Makes me suspicious of people's motives…
A free drink should not being out this much rage.
did you do the same with kripy kreme promo? only for certain passport holders
Stingy Singaporean are very famous la….
Famous for loving good food, lah 😄
Wtf. Ok well is that even a proper use of a neg?
Had to drop a neg for the racism. Even if I was Singaporean this is still a bad deal.
Any group can negotiate special deals for it's members - that's not racism. So inaccurate & not a valid reason for a neg.
As already shown, anyone can join this student support group & get this deal. More inclusive than many student deals. So not racist. But a free drink with a paid meal is nothing special anyway.
I'd say almost everyone complaining never were going to buy anything at this Indonesian restaurant anyway.
Huh? Sorry, I've been asleep and I dreamt I managed a restaurant serving Icelandic cuisine. Then, seeking more revenue I joined a website named AussieBargainz and posted a deal calling all Icelandics Of Tasmania (IOT) members, telling them to get a FREE drink with any meal. My description didn't say how non-Icelandic members of AussieBargainz may access it and I totally ignored all comments because that was beneath me.
Meanwhile, in the real world where nothing like that could possibly occur, I still wonder how many OzBargainers accessed this Kaki Lima offer.
free membership?
congratulations on the gold medal!