What bothers you most about OzBargain?

watwatwat on 31/08/2016 - 21:31
Last edited 31/08/2016 - 21:33

Interested to see what your biggest gripe is with OzBargain.

For me it is their insanely stupid referral rule that allows a deal submitter to put their referral link in the OP instead of forcing everyone to go through the Random referral system, which would make it fairer for everyone. Not only that having one person get all referrals often makes companies suspicious and in the past led to ing direct blocking ozbargain referrals because clearly OP made bank.

Just because someone is 5 minutes to submit than you, it could result in them making thousands from them getting to have their link in OP potentially forever, if it's a long running deal.

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  • inherentchoice on 31/08/2016 - 21:48
    +104

    People whinging about first world problems.

    • Kangal on 01/09/2016 - 09:38
      +14

      What bothers me the most about OzBargain is when a great deal gets posted…

      …its sold out, price error, cancelled, or removed before I could snag it !!

      FWP !

      • CandyMan on 01/09/2016 - 13:45
        +3

        Considering there's 3000 - 5000 people browsing the site at any given time 24/7 you'd expect that!

      • jenkemjunkie on 06/09/2016 - 08:20

        and then people keep up-voting it….Because imagining buying it is just as good as the real thing!!

        • Kangal on 06/09/2016 - 17:13
          +2

          There's a sense of a "community moral" here.

          If I can't snag that 2TB 850 PRO SSD for $500 bucks but you do, I'm happy a fellow OzB can benefit from it. And vice versa.

    • virhlpool on 03/09/2016 - 14:19
      +1

      Like slow economy growth, less jobs and slow career growth?

    • patinadiary on 06/09/2016 - 12:33
      +2

      Discussion threads like these?

  • Clear on 31/08/2016 - 21:50
    +101

    People being straight up assholes expecting the world. I've received several disgusting PMs from members.

    Also people being passive aggressive in general. Particularly when first time posters forget price or store in title.

    • Clear on 31/08/2016 - 22:15
      +23

      Got downvoted. Must have been one of the members :/

      Now tempting to share them.

    • tuvz on 31/08/2016 - 22:18

      curious
      What were the PMs about..
      Ive bought and sold a fair amount on Ozbargain recently and only dealt with good people thankfully :)

      • Clear on 31/08/2016 - 22:28
        +12

        Being associated with a Chinese online store is the issue.

        95%+ of PMs are about customers complaining that their package hasn't arrived after 1-2 weeks when the advertised timeframe is up to 30 business days.

        Unfortunately some people immediately turn to abusing me. Others will demand that I do X for them otherwise they'll deface every deal I post etc etc.

        • Axelstrife on 31/08/2016 - 22:33
          +8

          hope you're reporting those messaging this stuff.

        • Clear on 31/08/2016 - 22:43
          +2

          @Axelstrife: Nah. I can understand that they're angry and they usually give up pretty quickly.

        • Ughhh on 31/08/2016 - 22:53
          +2

          At least you're actually associated with a store, unlike ozbargain. From what I remember, Scotty often receives emails from idiots about not receiving items/deals posted.

        • nixs on 02/09/2016 - 12:19
          +2

          I guess when you interact with people on a bargains site, you are only getting the customers that are going out of their way to look for the the most value they can get out of sellers. They do actually want the world for $2.95 at 50% off.

        • StewBalls on 02/09/2016 - 21:28
          +4

          95%+ of PMs are about customers complaining that their package hasn't arrived

          Don't tell them that the other 5% are nude photos from me…

        • spackbace on 02/09/2016 - 23:45

          @StewBalls:

          Aww you said they were just for me!

        • CheapCheap0 on 03/09/2016 - 01:09

          @Spackbace:
          to me too :(
          Lets Stew(his)balls <—- Backspace

        • mskeggs on 03/09/2016 - 01:14
          +3

          It is amusing that there are often threads demanding to know how China sellers get away with such low postage charges compared to Australia, and even more threads demanding to know why China post takes so long.

          Perhaps they are related.

        • Clear on 03/09/2016 - 01:15
          +3

          @mskeggs: If you mean the Chinese sellers are related? Then yes, you are correct.

        • mskeggs on 03/09/2016 - 01:35
          +2

          @Clear:

          That was a 'tongue in cheek' comment. We benefit routinely from low Chinese postage prices, and complain regularly about slow Chinese postage times.
          Yet Australia Post, who offer pretty fast delivery, for quite a bit more cost also get condemned.

          It seems like there is a rump of OzBargainers who demand Auspost timing and delivery security for China Post pricing. And they just get angry that it doesn't exist instead of accepting they are asking a lot.

        • virhlpool on 03/09/2016 - 14:21
          +2

          @mskeggs: Like $15 for 10-day delivery Vs $0.5 for 25-day delivery. I would probably choose later for intl post.

        • neonixcoder on 04/09/2016 - 15:58

          @Ughhh: LOL

        • altomic on 09/09/2016 - 22:30

          @Clear: 2nd cousins apparently

        • Clear on 09/09/2016 - 22:42

          @altomic: Very accurate.

      • Slippery Fish on 04/09/2016 - 09:35

        Personal attacks ect that they dont wish to post on forum usualy lol

    • [Deactivated] on 01/09/2016 - 08:15
      +3

      Perhaps this is an ozbargain issue, not the posters issue. Perhaps title should be 3 separate string fields that are joined together to make a title, so the poster has to submit the information at the time of posting.

      • [Deactivated] on 02/09/2016 - 14:57

        If they are mandatory fields, it would prob make it less of an issue.

        However you aint idiot proof the world, you'll fail miserably

    • jellykingdom on 01/09/2016 - 09:17
      +1

      Agreed. I know this still an internet forum at the end of the day, so I shouldn't expect any different to every other forum. But MAN people on here can be complete and total a-holes

    • chu-oh on 01/09/2016 - 14:58

      I've found the general attitude here 1000x better than Whirlpool - but that's setting the bar pretty low.

    • jenkemjunkie on 06/09/2016 - 08:39

      electronic communication - where decorum and respect is mostly forgotten about and no-one knows what tolerance is

  • blitz on 31/08/2016 - 21:54
    +33

    It takes a lot of people to make a community, so I'm very grateful to everyone who comes to OzBargain and makes it what it is. Much credit also to Scotty, Neil and the other mods for building such a great place to visit each day.

    So what annoys me most is those users who always take and never give. A member for three years and not one post? Come on.

    • Clear on 31/08/2016 - 21:55
      +3

      So what annoys me most is those users who always take and never give. A member for three years and not one post? Come on.

      Especially those who always neg or don't have something nice to say.

      • nocure on 01/09/2016 - 09:18
        +3

        I think I feel like some fruit.😁

    • fossilfuel on 31/08/2016 - 22:08
      +16

      I second this. Also people who bought something from a deal, commented but didn't bother to give it a positive vote. If you've bought something and commented, it's really not that hard to give a pos vote. Just like this thread, the number of people who ask/take and don't give is absurdly high. It's really not hard to give the guy a pos and make his day even better.

      Also this thread really shows how entitled some people think they are. Even the rep has lost faith in some members of this community. Just by looking at the first two comments, they literally shit on OP because the title didn't describe the deal exactly. Sure, OP could've phrased the title better but you don't need to be an (profanity) about it.

      • PJC on 01/09/2016 - 09:42

        That Store Rep was indeed being generous in disposing of his overstocked earphones.

      • callum9999 on 01/09/2016 - 12:19

        Perhaps they find the concept of deriving happiness from receiving a positive vote on a deal you posted quite bizarre and it doesn't occur to them that they're upsetting the OP?

        • jenkemjunkie on 06/09/2016 - 08:44
          +2

          People derive happiness (amongst other things) from feeling appreciated. A positive vote is a good way on this site to display appreciation.

    • BargainCowboy on 01/09/2016 - 06:33
      +15

      I always strive to give back and I do love this community. However, all bargains I spot are usually already on the front page by the time I get around posting them. Other than that I'm active, upvoting and replying to comments. I don't want to think I'm one of those who 'take and do not give back".

      • rodinthink on 03/09/2016 - 18:55
        +1

        Also

        The negativity
        Bashing first-time posters for no reason (not store reps)

        As previously mentioned by SpaceBack, the first time posters always discouraged after the negs and grimmy comment that were made about their first-time bargain post. This explain why people rarely post the bargain other than being sluggish and leeching

    • tehkrohnz on 08/09/2016 - 21:13
      +2

      A lot of this is (for myself atleast, and im sure many more) the thought i could post this [comment/deal] but it will probably just get flamed, really puts off posting. The only times i will really comment is when i can try to assist with something i can definitely help with (generally foxtel posts).

  • Jamie007 on 31/08/2016 - 21:55
    +17

    I don't care for the supermarket catalogue grocery posts. "What? I can save 20 cents on canned corn at Coles this week? $$$!!"

    • Moderatorhamza23 on 01/09/2016 - 10:17

      Remember that you can hide deals from any stores or poster, you could block the Coles and Woolworths stores for example.

      Below any Coles/Woolworths deal click the 'hide' link then click the checkbox.

      • ProjectZero on 05/09/2016 - 09:41
        +1

        Whilst that is a fix for this problem, there are times when the poster and/or store does have a bargain or two, by hiding deals based of stores and posters might not be the best way.

        Is there are way to hide based off keywords?

    • mskeggs on 01/09/2016 - 12:53
      +58

      Grocery savings are some of the best. I don't need more eneloops or xioami headphones, but I need groceries so the saving is actually a genuine saving.

      • StrayfireX on 02/09/2016 - 00:53
        +6

        Nonsense, Eneloops are a part of any balanced diet/food pyramid.

        If our electronic devices need them, why wouldn't we?

        • Twodogs on 02/09/2016 - 15:20

          Gotta luv the loopys :-)

      • congo on 05/09/2016 - 01:01

        I agreed. I have enough eneloops to last a lifetime.

    • Gershom on 04/09/2016 - 10:18
      +2

      I don't think it's compulsory to read them.

  • Savas on 31/08/2016 - 22:00
    +21

    The amount of time I spend online

    • c0balt on 01/09/2016 - 12:28
      +6

      Thankfully there's not a 'hours spent online counter' for this site.

      I don't think I could stomach seeing that number.

      • chu-oh on 01/09/2016 - 14:59
        +1

        aka hours spent not working

        • StrayfireX on 02/09/2016 - 01:12
          +7

          I'm in Indonesia right now and I'm still checking OzBargain daily for 30 minutes at least. Gotta know if there's cheap SIM starter packs!

          As soon as I landed I craved OzBargain…

          I ended up buying a SIM at 4am at 7/11.

          It came with a free chicken katsu curry (special promo) that tasted like cardboard, but hey it was free :)

  • Ozzymac on 31/08/2016 - 22:04
    +2

    When I see something on the APP then login in here and its not on the page and you have to go searching for the deal.

    And the app is a bit buggy…

    cheers

    • Clear on 31/08/2016 - 22:05
      +2

      The app isn't official. OzBargain works fine on mobile.

      Or are you joking?

      • Ozzymac on 31/08/2016 - 22:40

        No, I didn't notice it wasn't an OFFICIAL app… :-(

        Guess that explains why I cant find things.

        So why isn't there an app?

        cheers

        • Clear on 31/08/2016 - 22:45
          +3

          Don't need an app when the site does it all.

          Anything that the app does that you don't think the website does? There are many hidden features.

        • neil on 31/08/2016 - 22:45
          +6

          There isn't any functionality that OzBargain can't offer with the mobile website. You can add an icon to the homescreen by going to OzBargain in your browser then Add to Home Screen.

        • Ozzymac on 31/08/2016 - 22:51

          @neil:

          Why is the MOBILE site showing different deals to this site?

          cheers

          After a refresh its the same.

        • [Deactivated] on 01/09/2016 - 10:54
          +1

          Apps aren't free to develop

      • jonathonsunshine on 02/09/2016 - 12:41
        +1

        Yeah, mobile optimised websites are normally better than apps, you can save book marks between your PC and phone etc. Plus, you can develop one mobile optimised site that works across iOS, Android, Windows, Blackberry and on different browsers etc

    • neil on 31/08/2016 - 22:30
      +2

      This is in my top 5 :) . We don't have an app but there are many that think we do.

  • spackbace on 31/08/2016 - 22:05
    +31

    • The idiots who hide behind a veil of anonymity and randomly neg-vote good comments, just because they have some immature beef with you from months ago. I've got news for you people, mods can identify voters, there is no true anonymity.

    • The negativity

    • Bashing first-time posters for no reason (not store reps)

    • Sheep

    • Keyboard warriors

    Basically what any forum on the internet brings with it…!

    • shapers on 31/08/2016 - 22:22
      +2

      Bashing first-time posters for no reason (not store reps)

      This. Seen a few negs and 'isacrapdeal' comments on posts that were fine and the cheapest for no reason. Don't get it.

      Probably most annoying thing apart from that for me is when ordering something online, it gets posted on here and so many people order the same thing that mine gets cancelled for out of stock but others get theirs who ordered hours later haha. kills me but eh, wish the websites would fulfill orders that were placed first.

    • [Deactivated] on 01/09/2016 - 00:34
      +6

      Definitely agree with you Spackbace. Being unnecessarily harsh and critical on a first time poster (or anyone in general) is not the best way to encourage them to post another deal later on. I've seen members who have been on OzBargain for years and have contributed basically nothing, however they are one of the first ones to establish faults on a first timer rather than be constructively helpful to the OP.

      It really isn't a big deal if the title didn't initially include the store name, spelt the store incorrectly or even forgot to mention there was cashback available in the description. Rather than grilling the OP for the mistake, report that and move on. You are only deterring members from posting ever again.

      • spackbace on 01/09/2016 - 00:50

        Yep definitely

        I'll admit I'm harsher on store reps, only because they're representing a business and their deal needs to be good. Also needs to be specific.

        But yeah, non-rep posters I normally cbf negging their deal, they normally don't know any better (unless they're sockpuppeting lol)

        • Clear on 01/09/2016 - 18:43
          +2

          Does that mean we can blame you for ProductReview reviews?

        • spackbace on 01/09/2016 - 18:48
          -1

          @Clear:

          Meh, I'll take the blame if you want :P

    • TheOneWhoKnocks on 03/09/2016 - 09:54

      Some valid points there, however a mod told me that;

      moderators can never reveal the users behind negative votes - they are hidden for a reason.

  • bargainslut on 31/08/2016 - 22:16
    +1

    People that are bothered by OzBargain

  • Dr Prepper on 31/08/2016 - 23:05
    +6

    I love ozbargain. Saving $25 bucks on a pair of shoes or getting a free coffee helps get through the day when I'm neck deep in (profanity) clients at work.

  • altomic on 31/08/2016 - 23:32
    +4

    (profanity). the pedantic arguer -e.g. "but you said "might be", which is more definite than "could" thus you have effectively destroyed your own argument and I win the internetz"

    and the (profanity) censorship at times. sure, I don't support using the words (profanity) and (profanity) every five minutes but sometimes d1ckhead is an appropriate term and part of the Australian lexicon

  • cmdwedge on 31/08/2016 - 23:47
    +20

    jv and his/her continued membership of this website.

    • BargainCowboy on 01/09/2016 - 06:34
      +6

      He's an icon, come on…

    • hetzjagd on 01/09/2016 - 14:40
      +5

      I gotta say I'm 50/50 on jv. Sometimes I wish she would dial down the same old rhetoric a bit. Other times she offers valid and valued insights. I feel like the community polices itself in regard to her pretty well and overall it's fine.

      • Clear on 01/09/2016 - 15:03
        +2

        If you know how to talk to jv you'll get along fine.

        Protip: She loves a good turtleneck.

    • melbstheburn on 03/09/2016 - 22:46

      Agreed

    • ad89 on 04/09/2016 - 23:17
      +6

      What bothers me most about this site are the trolls. In particular, jv and his/her strange backseat moderating and pointless question asking, and that this behaviour is rewarded with "Commentator of the Year" awards.

    • chiefbodge on 06/09/2016 - 09:32
      +2

      In my opinion JV is either asking good questions that no one else has thought to ask or just being funny. Certainly wouldn't describe her as a troll and she definitely adds positively to the community. Ozbargain shouldn't be a community where everything is blindly upvoted - the more critical people the better quality the bargains will be. If someone submits on Ozbargain and it gets negged or criticised it's not an attack on them personally.

      • bluesky on 06/09/2016 - 20:10

        JV's comments are sometimes really pertinent, e.g. in my post when I made a mistake and thought all items were 1/2 price, s/he pointed it out, so I could fix the post. I appreciated this vetting, so the info could be more accurate.

  • bluesky on 31/08/2016 - 23:47
    +1

    Getting neg-voted bothers many. Equally, being mistaken for the person who neg-voted also bothers some who wish to foster a harmonious forum - a nice place to hang around. (Especially if one has expressed a different opinion, in a respectful manner, which does not amount or equate to neg-voting.)

    I remember reading a forum post (but cannot find it now) where the poster advocated that those who neg-voted should be identifiable.

    With the anonymous system, one can:
    (a) make a comment, such as: "BTW I didn't neg you", or
    (b) go and pos-vote the comment, just to rule oneself out from the neg-vote.

    But being able to identify neg-voters also bring a set of problems, as many pointed out. And rightly so, since there will be unending flame wars and arguments.

    So how about this? There is neg-vote and pos-vote. What if an optional zero (or neutral vote) is introduced?

    If I am in the position above (perhaps likely to be mistaken as the neg-voter), but do not wish any hostility or bad-feeling to develop with the other party, I simply click on the neutral/zero vote. Declaring my swiss neutrality? :-)

    • Sage on 31/08/2016 - 23:59

      Huh? I don't think it's anonymous, we can click the "votes" button to see who voted on a comment. Same for deals.

      • bluesky on 01/09/2016 - 00:02

        At present, you can only identify those who gave positive votes, not negative votes.

        • Sage on 01/09/2016 - 00:08

          Yep, sorry about that. I just noticed after writing my comment.
          I agree, that is dodgy.

        • Moderatorneil on 01/09/2016 - 00:23

          @Sage:

          It used to be visible and caused a huge amount of fights between users. We experienced a sharp decrease when we made negative votes on comments not visible.

        • bluesky on 01/09/2016 - 00:31
          +1

          @neil: It is a good thing, there is no question about that - to keep neg-voters anonymous. But with it brings the problem I mentioned (and someone else also created a post about this a while back). Not a big one, I agree. But one which can be addressed if there is a zero/neutral vote feature.

          A zero vote does not mean I agree with the commenter. But neither is it a negative vote. And like positive votes, zero votes are shown.

          Of course, the benefits has to be weighed up against the cost of implementation, admin etc. But if it is easily doable and does not impose a huge on-going cost, perhaps something to consider? Thought I will just raise it as a suggestion, is all.

  • Diji1 on 31/08/2016 - 23:48
    +4

    Lack of boob pics.

    • altomic on 01/09/2016 - 00:12
      +1

      man boobs?

    • Savas on 01/09/2016 - 21:37
      +1

      There are other websites for that

      • [Deactivated] on 02/09/2016 - 07:22
        +2

        Do tell, Mr Savas ;)

  • gringo on 01/09/2016 - 00:38
    +1

    RE: referral deals

    Yep some are obvious like the ING/ratesetter one. Some are not however and take a bit of finding.

    I know I don't post these deals anymore (and there have been some good ones).. I guess that makes you happier?

  • [Deactivated] on 01/09/2016 - 00:42
    +14

    1. People who ask for advice (usually without lifting a finger to try to help themselves first) and don't have the courtesy to thank everyone or at least acknowledge their contributions

    2. Even worse, people who ask for opinions or experiences and then strangely have a go at others who took the time to contribute

    In short, the lack of civility, maturity and manners that you'd expect face to face in one's normal professional and social circles that's missing from the Internet. But that's not just OzB that's any Internet forum, and at least there are plenty of mods here to keep things in check.

    • shaybisc on 01/09/2016 - 08:21
      +8

      I am often bemused by people who ask questions online about things that the simplest and most obvious Google search will answer. Now either I'm a brilliant Google search researcher- NO- or they don't even do the simplest and most obvious Google search before asking the question.

      • Ughhh on 01/09/2016 - 13:14

        I think some don't do it because, why waste your own time researching when there are others who would love to do your lazy dirty work, for free!

      • StrayfireX on 02/09/2016 - 00:56

        On another forum I used to reply passive aggressively with a link to "let me Google that for you"

        :)

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