Lots of availability in February/March next year.
Routes:
Melbourne- Beijing $397
Melbourne- Shanghai $397
Sydney- Beijing $410
Sydney- Shanghai $410
Thanks to SecretFlying
Beijing/Shanghai Return for $397 MEL, $410 SYD (One-Stop with China Southern) Via Momondo
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Fixed. Thanks!
damn thats cheap
Around $454 from Brisbane to Shanghai or Beijing. Only searched 1/3/17 ret 24/3/17, so may be cheaper flights.
insane prices. chinese new year is in jan next year, so feb and march will be good for travel.
Or we could not be racist and respect other people's language and culture?
Tell that to the Chinese. Can't even open a bank account or rent office space in China without the Chinese authorities getting in a frenzy trying to extract as much cash as they can out of you and question you.
Tell us what you really think, Pauline
What I really think? My entire suburb and street is filled with Chinese people who don't speak English. Most of my street is owned by Chinese nationals who don't even live here. I checked
These aren't the hardworking Chinese that came here decades ago with nothing. They're upper class mainlanders from China who have zero manners.
Don't group me with that degenerate known as Pauline Hanson. I'm an educated individual who can think for myself. My concerns are genuine as our inner city suburbs are being swept up by Chinese nationals. Many of which probably have ties to the Chinese government.
Read this: http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-09-28/former-australia-ambas…
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-08-21/china-australia-politi…
"Many of which probably have ties to the Chinese government"…
LOL, did you also investigate these Chinese spies?
Let's see if we can establish an entire suburb in China where everyone speaks English and not Mandarin/Cantonese.
Ummm… That's what the British and other countries used to do in areas of China. So maybe we've already used our turn.
Not to mention a bunch of people moving in and speaking English not the native language (amongst other far more horrific things) is exactly how today's Australia was formed… I'm not sure any non-Aboriginal Australian has the right to complain about foreigners coming in!
Good point. People forget our history. I decided not to really challenge people too much…
I mean really - people coming in boats to this country uninvited, speaking only their own foreign language, not assimilating with the locals, building their own places of worship, wanting only their own laws, taking over & acting like they own the place…
That's some of the history of British colonisation of this land. And that leaves out the theft, rape, murder, …
And groups of non-English speakers (Italians, Greeks, Chinese, and many others) since then have usually grouped together to speak their own language, retain the traditions of their country of origin, before learning English & moving into the broader community over time. Many now speak Strine better than some "locals" ;-)
That's what people tend to do everywhere, when they come into a different group or country or even a social gathering - we like to be with our close friends or people similar to us. Of course others may interpret that as excluding them. I'm sure we have all experienced that at school.
And that early hatred of exclusion from groups along with thinking they are excluded from economic and other benefits now, may explain why there is such anger in some people against the 'other'. Whereas, people interested in international travel aren't a likely group to necessarily hate "foreigners".
Chinese have been here since soon after the first European moved in. Cemeteries of Chinese & Japanese are some of the oldest in Australia. Burial, trade and wedding practices from the country of origin were strong reasons to keep together and form associations to help perform these ceremonies.
And there has been trade and intermarriage between people of this country and people coming in boats from what is now Indonesia going back around 1000 years.
In Guangzhou you can find a suburb where mainly African lives and speak their own language.
Any CBD in Beijing, Shanghai, Guangzhou or Shenzhen.
I'm curious if you can just get off at the stop rather than proceeding to the final destination. My mum has wanted to visit Guangzhou and Shenzhen, which is exactly where the to and returning flights stop over.
I'd like to know this too, will it forfeit your ticket?
Standard for normal airlines. Skip a leg and the rest of the ticket is cancelled
Beat me!
A lot of airlines will cancel the rest of your ticket if you don't show up for a segment. Okay to do if you don't need the rest of the ticket but you should definitely check with the airline.
I also do believe that if you are a serial repeater, some airlines will ban you.
Does anyone know why your ticket gets cancelled if you miss a leg of your journey (let alone banning someone for doing it repeatedly)? It doesn't really make sense… you're saving the airline costs at the end of the day, right?
Also, couldn't you just claim that something happened between the two legs of the journey (e.g. you were really sick or you lost track of time) and you legitimately missed the second half of your journey? It doesn't seem fair that, if that were to happen, that your flight back home (which isn't really linked to your initial flight) is cancelled?Airlines price fares in strange and funny ways based on revenue optimising algorithms, that no one really can understand.
You will often find in particular that an airline will charge a high fare for a non-stop route in which it has minimal competition. However, this same route may just be one leg in another multiple stop route, which is priced significantly less, because it is competing with other airlines (be it different routing, but from the same origin and to the same destination).
@sambutler9876: No-one understands? I understand it pretty well and given your following explanation it seems you have a reasonable understanding as well?
@callum9999 and @sambutler9876:
Thanks Sam - it does seem like a bit of an outdated method airlines are using - at the end of the day, once the passenger has booked the flight the airlines have the money for the ticket, and I didn't think they would care enough to ban someone for not getting on the second leg (and, as I said, I could imagine there could be legitimate reasons for missing the second leg), let alone cancelling their return ticket. I feel like airlines who engage in this kind of practice due to competition (as you said) aren't seeing the forest: there's a bigger issue here that surely could be fixed with logistical/route changes to increase efficiencies within airlines? I'm not in the business, so maybe this is naïve thinking on my part.
On a related note, you guys might find this story interesting too:
http://money.cnn.com/2014/12/29/news/united-orbitz-sue-skipl…@charlieweaving: It's not remotely outdated (its more modern if anything…), you don't seem to understand it at all.
People pay more for direct flights than flights with a stopover. If airlines allowed you to buy a flight with a stopover and skip the last leg instead of paying more for the direct flight they'll lose money.
E.g. Sydney to Brisbane may be $200 while a promotion is being run for Sydney-Brisbane-Cairns (maybe another airline is flying direct cheaply) and that costs $180. Why would you expect the airline to want people paying $180 and getting off in Brisbane when they think they can sell the same thing for $200?
@callum9999: This is standard practice for all full service airlines. They have promotion for certain destination, so because of the arbitrage in the pricing, they will cancel your whole remaining itinerary if you missed any legs of the flights.
AirAsia and other budget airlines is stop by stop model and this arbitrage also happens on AA sales as well.
MEL-KL is more expensive than MEL-HKT (usually HKT/SGN) and this is via KL. So you can buy MEL-HKT and get off at KL to fly somewhere else (i.e Mauritius/NRT…) I have done this before.
Tigerairways used to have SGN-PER (via SIN) $100 cheaper than SIN-PER, so if you want to find cheap tickets with budget airlines, looks beyond your destination.
VNAirlines has sweet spot pricing for ALL flights from KL, i.e KL-NRT/HKG (via SGN/HAN) is much cheaper (half price) than those who fly from VN (SGN/HAN - NRT/HKG). Especially KUL-HKG, price with checked-in baggage and meal included is even cheaper than Airasia sales fare.
One more points I am not sure if it is legal if they let you board the remaining flight is the airport tax charge. If you just transit, you do not get charged transit airport tax, but if you skipped the other leg and board the flight at the transit airport means you have evaded paying for the transit airport tax.
Don't forget some airports have much higher airport tax than others, MEL/SYD is around $80AUD while KLIA2 is the cheapest of all the airports around Australasia (~12AUD only).
You need to know the transit and stopover rule, transit is for <24h stopover, anything more than 24h will be classified as stopover and you will be charged airport tax from that stopover airport. So for skipping 1 of the leg of your flight, you did not pay for the airport tax of that airport so I am not sure how that government will be happy for you to avoid paying it and potentially you can avoid paying the more expensive airport tax by selecting cheaper destination beyond your intended destination.
It's a shame she doesn't want to go to Beijing as well. Using multi-trip you can save tonnes of money compared to booking internal flights separately (and save heaps of sitting time compared to the Beijing-to-Guangzhou train).
For example,
Fly Melbourne to Guangzhou
Train Guangzhou to Shenzhen
Fly Shenzhen to Beijing
Fly Beijing to GuangzhouFly Guangzhou to Melbourne
Total $536 with directflights.com.au
http://www.momondo.com.au/flightsearch/?Search=true&TripType…
Her checked luggage will end up at the final destination too.
Just booked 3 tickets for March 11 - 19 @ $397 each.
Don't mind the stopover at GZ.
Thanks OP :)
If you can get hall pass from the missus, drop by at ChangPing in Donguan. Perfect weekend escapade for boys!
I thought they already have big crackdown 2 years ago when there was a TV documentary about "massage" parlour in Dongguan
How much is the Tax/levy?
Is there any indication on the dates this is for? Also, how can I find a version of this flight with a longer stop over so you can exit and/or do something at GZ etc? any ideas?
Mostly February and March 2017.
What dates and how long in Guangzhou would you want to stay? I'll see what I can find.
For anyone travelling without luggage on a tight budget you can also travel Sydney to Beijing return with AirAsia for $362 (+ booking fees if not paying with PayPal).
How much are flights to shanghai around March/April normally?
Whats the best site to look at for flights to beijing? Hoping to go there from Syd Mid Jan. Most of the good sales havent been around the right dates yet
Everything I click on Sydney to Shanghai link on my iPhone, it loads forever but doesn't show anything?
Am I the only one with this is happening to?
ThanksCouldn't make any booking because it has neither child ticket choice nor birth year entry for any kid.
If interested maybe ring STA travel directly and ask.
Seems to me it's cheaper using multi-city stopover than Mel > Guangzhou return. Does anyone know if I can forfeit the Guanghou/Beijing sector?
China Southern, not Eastern