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Can't find specification on how it charges or battery life. I wouldn't trust it.
I used it, had to sharpen often and within a couple of days I had nothing left.
I have an apple, I have a pen-cil… uh
Lol!
Yep, just the thing for my pineapple pen.
An apple pencil… . .
When are you apple zombies going to finally wake up and stop falling for this scam…. Pathetic lost souls..
You're just upset cos you accidentally sharpened your pencil
How bout you do it for me when u line up for the next Apple pencil 2 outside the apple store?
apple pencil 2…cool
myright probably thinks his some special snowflake, Lol! & those whinging on apple also.
Myright whether to buy apple or android.
can you recommend a preferable scam please?
Yeah, I'll got drop $2K on a Wacom Cintiq instead. It actually makes the iPad a worthwhile competitor to professional equipment. I'd say the only major points of the Cintiq over the Apple Pencil are the natural paper feeling the screen provides and the ability to run Windows. The Apple Pencil is actually better for shading and has less latency. It's for digital art and productivity, in the end, the price differences are negligible but if you want to make the comparison, the iPad Pro + Pencil is cheaper.
How much markup must be on those things? 1,000s of % I would guess.
Was watching a show last night and they only pay $40-$50 for an iPad and mark it up 10 times the amount when they sell it. I can't imagine what $130 pencil does? Does it draw money or something? (Or just for Apple?)
It works more accurately than any stylus on the market - as proven by several independent tests
Total conjecture. Even SOCs like Qualcomm's are worth around $40-50. Add the screen, battery, Bluetooth, Wifi, storage, enclosure, finger print scanner, software and the research and development. Hell, if these shows knew anything they'd probably realise even the stupid box Apple's stuff comes in would run probably $5 or more. Not to mention, where do they think this tech comes from? You don't just stroll into Jaycar and buy a screen, CPU, RAM and so on, slap it together and you have an iPad. Also remember there's royalties that have to be paid - Dolby, MPEG L.A., Bluetooth, HDMI, GSM, UMTS. All for $40 – please. Even the cost of hiring thousands of engineers to work on various aspects of iOS and their chips (A10, NVMe, etc.).
I heard some fool claiming iPhones cost $5 to make on the radio a few months ago. People are just so out of touch.
Current reasonable expectations on iPhone cost per unit are over $200 USD.
My MacBook Pro slows down, gets errors and freezes just as much as my PC.
Nope. I wont go into details but Apple are horrible to get going once they don;t work anymore. Ever brick an iPhone or know someone who has? You need to buy a macintosh to get it working again.
You're joking? You can't brick and iPhone unless you wear out the SSD (NOR) or mess with the NVRAM (can't be done since later iOS 8), screw up a baseband update (very rare, may occur if trying to unlock when unlocking was a thing > 5 years ago). Here's a list of ways to actually brick an iOS device: https://www.theiphonewiki.com/wiki/Brick
The list is not maintained by Apple but instead the jailbreak community.
What you probably did was require a restore. Sorry to say, fixing that is as simple as plugging the device into a computer with iTunes, holding Home + Sleep for 10 seconds, real seeing sleep while holding home for an additional 5 seconds.
FWIW: Apple gives instructions on how to DFU restore. By having a locked boot loader and a BootROM (Read-Only Memory) the boot sequence is protected from bricks. NVRAM is also cleared on boot, meaning you can't corrupt your MAC address or screw the other boot flags. You also will struggle to trash your baseband and if you do, it will boot, you just won't get cellular signal. Seems pointless to buy a Macintosh for these reasons, when you didn't exhaust the officially recommended recovery process.
"What you probably did was require a restore. Sorry to say, fixing that is as simple as plugging the device into a computer with iTunes, holding Home + Sleep for 10 seconds, real seeing sleep while holding home for an additional 5 seconds."
Yes that is what I was referring to, when someone pokes in the wrong access code too many times and you have to reflash the phone and lose all your data to get it going again.
So I did what you described and iTunes started to download the firmware to reflash the iPhone, all looked good. Then it stopped about half-way with a 'lost connection' error (not uncommon according to Google). So I tried that a few times with the same result each time. So I figured maybe there's something going on with that particular computer. I then put iTunes on a different PC and tried it from there, same result, maybe it's that iTunes POS? Bloody Apple. So then as a last resort I figured I'd download the firmware manually on a third PC that doesn't have iTunes on it at all. Same result, it would download the firmware normally then drop the connection about half-way through. At that point I called Apple support: "We can't help you but we'll get the right guys to give you a call." So I get call and get put on auto-hold to await the next CSR…..then the call drops out and was never returned. I was about to throw it out the window but then I remembered I knew someone with an apple computer, so on the off chance that this was an 'apple' problem I took it around to their place and lo and behold it downloaded the FW on the first try! Took a bit of screwing around after that to get it to load properly but I eventually got it working again. The only conclusion I could reach was that apple servers are programmed to detect windows installations….I'm sure there's a proper explanation but I don't know what it is. When I got the 'please rate our service' email from apple I repeated the story to them and asked the question but (surprise surprise)never got a reply.
So no, I wasn't joking. :)
@EightImmortals: interesting situation. Before I switched to Mac for most of my work (I still use Windows, although I prefer macOS/Hackintosh for development) I had a lot of issues with iTunes. The firmware restore process is a little more complex than simply downloading the IPSW. I'm kind of surprised Apple didn't recommend you manually download an IPSW in your browser and restore it like that, you can hold shift and click restore and browse for the file and use a pre-downloaded firmware image.
Nonetheless, after you've obtained the firmware file it must be signed by Apple to allow installation on your device. Only firmwares signed by Apple are allowed to be installed but they also (annoyingly) use it to prevent downgrading software as they don't sign older versions and only the newest firmwares that your device can use. This is the step that I always had issues with and it was always my anti-virus causing the problem (NOD32 and CA) at different stages in time. I'd suspect this may have been the cause of your issue but there's also issues known to exist with certain USB port drivers (mostly USB 3.0) and at one stage Windows x64 had issues. I have no doubt that iTunes on Windows is of worse quality than macOS but it must be said that iTunes is just utter trash in general. I'd probably still suspect antivirus being the culprit because I had very similar issues to you and I restored probably around 20-30 (maybe more) times on Windows back when firmware signatures could be cached in the pre iOS 5/6 days.
The issue probably didn't occur on macOS because most people don't have an antivirus program and the drivers and hardware are pretty well paired, alone with the software and the joke that is iTunes.
I only meant you're joking in the sense that it's actually very difficult for the average user to irreversibly brick an iOS device. In that respect having a locked down system is good but it's still not entirely possible. At the same time, anyone who has managed to successfully brick and iOS device has likely voided their warranty (unless you count the date bug that was present on iOS 8 or 9 but could be fixed by disconnecting the battery temporarily).
"I'm kind of surprised Apple didn't recommend you manually download an IPSW in your browser and restore it like that, you can hold shift and click restore and browse for the file and use a pre-downloaded firmware image."
Like I said, I figured that out for myself and it still wouldn't work. Also it shouldn't have been an antivirus issue as one of PC's I used didn't have any AV on it. Same goes for USB port issues, three different PC's wouldn't have the same identical problem if it was a USB issue. I even tried different DNS settings on the router. Hence my comment that you need to buy a MAc to your iPhone working again. :)
I don't think I've ever seen a bricked android phone but I guess it must happen. Wonder how hard they are to get working again?
@EightImmortals: sounds strange to me. I'd guess maybe a server issue but that would have been more widespread.
Bricking and Android is possible but really difficult. I think it can be done by flashing an incorrect custom ROM, maybe one for a different model of device (such as a tablet with cellular receiving an update for non-cellular devices). This type of situation will only really occur with people who root their devices. Even still I think it's reversible using a J-TAG, at least in some cases – there's bound to be some way to irreversibly brick some device but most manufacturers have fail safes.
@no not me: Meh, if it were a server issue then why did work on the Mac? I maintain it was an 'Apple' issue. :)
I have both; you make it sound like apple is god!
apple gives me same if not more pain than android!!
Well they do kill the profits in the worldwide phone & laptop markets - because, well, they make reliable products.
Because they have legions of sheep that would buy an Iphone 8 one week, release an Iphone 9 3 weeks later and those same people would still buy it. Nothing to do with quality and more to do with addicted people.
@Ravensbane: actually most people who own Macs ditched Windows because they were sick & tired of how crap it is.
So actually it's the ignorant Windows sheep that use PCs
Interesting then when given the choice, the overwhelming majority of IBM staff are using Macs, not PCs
"IBM says Macs save up to $543 per user"
http://www.cio.com/article/3133945/hardware/ibm-says-macs-sa…
@Ravensbane: I kinda disagree with that sentiment. What Apple does, and what is clever about what Apple does, is that they make everything that they make work well with each other. Not to mention, Apple's OS system is different from other OS system (not talking in terms of quality, but simply in terms of difference).
When you use an operating system for a long time, it's hard to move to another one. When you use a feature that kinda builds up from other products, it's hard to move away from those (since you change one and immediately you lose a lot of features you used to use).
That kind of behaviour is observable in other areas as well. For example, Android users are found to stick to Android more. Are you going to call those people sheeps as well? Many people stay on one OS because that's what they are used to.
I would agree few people show sheep like behaviours, believing everything Apple says. But then again, extreme fanboyism is kinda present everywhere. I kinda think Apple's one is more visible because of how Apple pitches themselves to be. Though, as the saying goes, an empty vessel makes most noise and I think it's unfair at best to portray every Apple product users with one broad stroke.
Either they make reliable products, or they do massive margin. I can't say which because I don't like any of their products, so don't own any of them
@OversimplifiedIsheep and Sammy sheep are the same,I kinda isheep till iPhone 4 come with antena gate, with slogan you "holding your phone wrong"and give a free case than fixing the problem. After my wife buy android I realised you have a freedom of what phone that suit you best, not have to stick with what company tell you what suit you best and how to use it. It's called choices. will I buy iPhone again? Absolutely, but not when they still arrogance company.
@Anubizz: Agreed on sheeps being the same. As I kinda said, extreme fanboyism is kinda everywhere. Every company seem to have its herd.
My parents are split on what they like, so I kinda ended up seeing both in action (to a degree, that said, my advices usually is what they follow completely on tech stuff). Eh is my answer. I do own an iPad and I do own Android devices. Again, eh is my answer. I may consider getting an Android tablet if any manufacturer releases a decent one.
From what I can see, Android and iOS has their flaws and their strengths. If you enjoy one side more because of what it offers, that's completely fine. If you recommend others what you like when they want such recommendations, I think that's wonderful. When people shit on other side and try to make it sound like it's the solution and try to shove it down my throat, I kinda think that's getting too close to fanboyism.
@yoyomablue: this is why I switched. I crapped on about how much I hated Apple for years and after Windows 8 I was just so fed up that I picked up a second hand MacBook Pro for $600 off gumtree. Since then I've switched over to macOS for everything unless I need Windows or want to play games, also built a PC capable of running macOS and the Hackintosh seems more stable than Windows. Windows has caused me so much grief with an update-reboot loop this year until I finally resolved it the other week. It turns out I just had to delete my Windows Live Games (or whatever it's called) credentials. Funnily enough I never signed in to Xbox on Windows 10, so some random file was causing reboot loops and update rollback cycles for weeks. It's just such an unprofessional joke of an OS at the moment that I can't even trust it for serious work. Not when the OS that is not designed to work on my PC and relies on some community written drivers works 99.9% of the time (updating the OS and Nvidia drivers on Hackintosh is a two reboot process) but that's fine.
I'll probably never switch to Windows as my main OS, at least not until they stop running the world's largest live beta testing program.
That's funny, because the last thing I read about Apple's latest and the greatest are these two:
Some MacBook Pro 2016 Users Are Reporting Graphics Card Issues
Apple’s Bootcamp audio driver can permanently damage the speakers on the new MacBook Pro
"IBM says Macs save up to $543 per user"
http://www.cio.com/article/3133945/hardware/ibm-says-macs-sa…
…IBM saves up money because they just buy the retailer version. Sure that will translate to normal everyday user situation.
The purchase-to-deployment process for PC laptops, for example, requires at least five steps more than a Mac, he said. Before IBM provides a PC to one of its employees, the company buys it from Lenovo, ships it to an IBM office where IT staff preloads software and a corporate image on the hard drive, and then ships the device to a warehouse where it might depreciate or become outdated before it gets sent to an employee, Previn said. "All of that is activity that we don't have to do in our Mac program because we're buying the exact same Macs that you would buy in a retail store, and we can just drop-ship them to employees when they need them," he said.
@Oversimplified: no, IBM has stated that their IT department spends over 5 times as much time dealing with issues on PCs than Macs, PER USER.
@yoyomablue: You do know it's still in the coorporation environment. The point that the article is making is about cooperation environment, where they have specific arrangements with Apple, IBM@Mac.
@Oversimplified: there has been seperate articles about Windows having far more issues than Mac OS for IBM IT staff to deal with. Windows literally costs IBM hundreds of thousands of dollars a year more than Mac OS in service calls. Feel free to Google.
@yoyomablue: That is also in the article you brought up. The point is IBM is a company, you cannot expect what happens with IBM to happen to normal consumers, especially when IBM has a special arrangement with Apple. A company maintaining thousands of PCs at once vs a normal household, you are giving me articles about a company adopting Macs in their system and telling me that those two completely different scenario will somehow magically be same.
The stuff I've linked, are from users who've had problems with the new Macbook Pro. I don't think I am being too ridiculous in saying that how you are saying Apple's product just works failed in their cases.
@Oversimplified: I think a big point is that IBM previously used Windows and Macs work out better for them, both cases exist under the same conditions.
I've only been using Macs for three years and absolutely hated them before but now I can barely stand using Windows because it's been so unreliable to me. I'd also love to pickup a ThinkPad because they seem nice but I can't bring myself to trust Lenovo after their malware fiasco. I don't use OEM images because of bloat anyway, it's more a matter of principle.
@no not me: The problem with that is, he or she is kinda using it to say Mac just works and whoever uses Windows is just a fanboy. I am kinda deducing that from the comments, but if you think I am reading too much between the lines, I might be.
"The difference between Apple & Microsoft or Android - the products actually work"
"So actually it's the ignorant Windows sheep that use PCs"
I don't mind Macs. In fact, I will happily recommend a Mac if I think it's reasonable. I am, in fact, planning on getting my mother an iMac because Macbook Air wasn't refreshed.
That said, the problem with extraploating the situation that IBM faced to normal day life situation is simply, you cannot expect same results. Why? Because companies maintenance cost would be different to normal day household, who knows what kind of deals they had. Also, companies have different priorities, they want the devices running, at all cost. It might be simple problems that they would have no problems fixing by themselves, that they have to relay to tech support because it's company PC. I don't think I am being unreasonable by saying, you simply can't apply the situation to one another.
I would be OK if he or she was saying Mac is also a reasonable option or even, it can cost you far less in certain situations. I am not fine with that kind of extrapolation done with the comments.
"IBM says Macs save up to $543 per user", and I think he or she was pointing all that to "IT department spends over 5 times as much time dealing with issues on PCs than Macs". I've mentioned why I think that doesn't really apply to normal household situations (TL:DR, companies and normal household have different priorities, resources and users are in different situations).
They do mention other reasons as well, like what I mentioned beforehand, the fact that they use retail version. Or like the fact that Macs hold value longer than equivalent PC. He or she ignores that completely and try to make it sound like Macs are so reliable and that's why they saved money.
@Oversimplified:
"The problem with that is, he or she is kinda using it to say Mac just works and whoever uses Windows is just a fanboy"
Nope what's good for the goose is good for the gander.
EVERY Apple post on here gets invaded by utterly ignorant halfwit trolls. Right back at 'em
@yoyomablue: I will kinda point to you to what I've mentioned on the other comment.
"But then again, extreme fanboyism is kinda present everywhere."
"Agreed on sheeps being the same. As I kinda said, extreme fanboyism is kinda everywhere. Every company seem to have its herd."
I don't disagree with you. Bloody hell, I kinda think it's stupid regardless whom it is for. Whoever makes extreme comments (like something just works or whoever uses something else is just a fanboy) usually are annoying and I usually label them fanboys for a reason. My opinion of fanboys are, let's say I don't see them fondly. They are shooting themselves in the foot by giving less reasons for the companies to renovate on their product.
I like tech stuff, if you couldn't have guessed that from my other comments. While I do use one product more over the other (limited budget, I'd probably buy them all if I could just to play with them + I only have one body), I don't shit on other people's preferences. I can criticise what I chose (even though usually I am very satisfied with what I've chosen) probably in more details than other people, because nothing is perfect.
Ludicrous.
Others are talking about this being expensive. Be fair, other options are expensive as well. You can't compared it to Wacom's stylus (i.e. S pen) because the pen uses different technology. Something comparable like Surface Pro's pen costs $95.
Apple Pen never sold itself to me, but that's kinda different story I think.
Is this the new Newton?
$130 for a pencil .. how much is the sharpener .. LOL .. 😅 .. ??
ludicrous
Does this require a dongle? :)
Heh, I chuckled because I think it does for charging (unless you want to plug it directly into your iPad).
http://assets.ilounge.com/images/reviews/apple/pencil/pencil…
Wow, did not expect there to be one haha. Will need to add this to the bag of dongles needed for the Macbook Pro.
Did you know that you cannot connect iPhone or iPad to new Macbook Pro without buying an additional accessory (either USB C to USB A or USB C to lightning)?
Apple products are the best computer products in the known universe. Proof? Even the space faring aliens from Independence Day 1 from 1998 used Mac OS for their Mothership's computer system.
No deal. Cheaper here at Officeworks