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New Model ThinkPad E570 / Gen7 i7-7500U / 16GB RAM / 256GB SSD / 15.6" FHD / 2GB Nvidia / $1059 Shipped @ Lenovo

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TA-E570-1059

$52 cheaper than last time and just $100 more than its smaller brother posted last week. Add coupon TA-E570-1059 at checkout. Ends 11:59pm AEDT Sunday. Feel free to call Lenovo's telesales number on 1300 557 073 with questions during business hours. Enjoy :)

  • Intel Gen7 i7-7500U CPU
  • 15.6" FHD (1920 x 1080)
  • 16GB DDR4 2400MHz SODIMM
  • Nvidia Geforce GTX950M 2GB
  • 256GB SSD PCIe Opal 2.0
  • 720p HD camera with mic

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  • +4 votes

    $100 more for a bigger screen, 10keys and an actual gaming capable (albeit lower quality) GTX graphics card? Not bad at all.

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      DVDRW as well. Good price

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    Any deals for some high-end All in One systems? Don't need a laptop

    • +1 vote

      if you don't need laptop but a desktop ……..much more bangs per buck, and with real cooling and 500W supply, you get a more powerful CPU and GPU for the money …..$1000 sees you with an full blown I7 and RX480 card.

      • -1 vote

        Link please?

        • +9 votes

          DIY

        • +2 votes

          http://www.logicalincrements.com

          Can pay msy or pccg <$100 to build it if you can't/don't want to.

        • +3 votes

          I linked this earlier in a different comment. Building your own pc can be quite good value for money. I used the i7 and RX 480 from above.

          https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/446gr7

          Decent prebuilt desktops hover around that price, and come with Windows. Just not as good value for money.

          https://www.pccasegear.com/products/37255/pccg-predator-470-...

        • -2 votes

          @Employee427: terrible re-sale as well.

          Got into a system of buying a decent laptop every 2 years at the best price possible.

          Claim dep on tax as it gets used for work/ further study.

          After buying a newer model (I find i spent $800-1200 every 2 years on a new model), and sell the old one for $5-700 easy.

          It's like having an upgrade for around $200 every 2 years.

          Can't really do that with a desktop :( So just found myself doing this as a desktop replacement.

          Surprising thing is as long as you buy right still does ok for games, I got sick of having to dump $1000 a year into a PC just to play the latest games only to find they'd been poorly ported and many pc versions were broken anyway, just got a ps3, then later on a ps4.

          What I cant get on ps4 atm I get on pc, and my laptop that is getting upgraded soon still plays all the latest rts's no dramas.

          All my mates still sticking with desktops laughing at my process for it… still end up blowing 500-1000 every 6-8 months on upgrading their desktop, and all their old bits they pretty much end up selling for peanuts or giving away.

          I swear desktop parts go down in value faster than an african nations currency these days.

        • +3 votes

          @typhoonadventure:

          If someone is dumping $1000 a year into a PC, they either have a beast of a PC or they're doing something wrong. Often, parts from previous builds can be carried into the next one, and I definitely recommend that over resale.

          For example, if you built a system around an unlocked i5 (the i5-2500k) back in 2011, the only upgrades I would see as necessary would be an SSD (which isn't standard on consoles) and a mid-range GPU (rx480 level) perhaps every 3 years. i.e. roughly $100 a year, not $1000. This would far exceed the performance in current consoles and mid-range laptops.

          Don't assume that because your friends upgrade their desktops often that buying and maintaining a PC is expensive, because it frankly isn't.

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          yeah the trickle down just hit the gen 2 i5 …… put in an ssd and rx470 so now my son uses it as a gaming machine at his mums house……..

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          @typhoonadventure: I bought a gaming pc for about $900 without windows 10. It runs all games very smooth with everything on ultra including Skyrim Special Edition(gets 50-60 fps on average). Specs are i5 6500, GTX 950 and 16gb ram ddr4. I think it would be fair to say this system will last two years before a gpu upgrade needs to happen not $1000 a year.

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        $1000 is a bit of a stretch on the Aus market, the GPU and CPU alone would be about $700-800

        • +3 votes

          https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/446gr7

          It can be done for just over $1000 if you're willing to make a few sacrifices.

        • +1 vote

          @Employee427:
          Well it's not bad with those sacrifices but I doubt someone who was looking into an all in one or laptop is willing to do without OS or monitor.
          Though you did do what I said you couldn't anyway, so good job.

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          @Employee427: Cool website, thanks for sharing - been so long since I built a PC, crazy to see how cheap some parts have gotten (not GPUs though!)

          Is 430W enough juice to run that machine? Love that you can fit it all in a mini tower case.

        • +1 vote

          @railspider:

          PCPartpicker really is awesome. It has a built-in power estimator which rates the above system at 290W. You often want to leave room for upgrades which might consume more power. While 430W would be plenty to run that machine, I would be more comfortable with 500W myself.

          Also, cases get even smaller once you go down to mini-ITX (smaller than micro-ATX).

          Had to choose a shorter graphics card, but example:

          https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/c6MYRG

        • -1 vote

          @Employee427: and meanwhile you can pickup a 1-2 year old laptop with around an i7, 2gb nvidia graphics 8-16gb of ram for 200-300$ on the 2nds market.

          In 2 years time still be able to get 1-200 out of it.

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          @typhoonadventure: Got a link to anything with those specs selling for that price? I paid double that for my current laptop with similar specs from the Dell Outlet and thought I was getting a great deal

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          @railspider:

          No, he's just blowing crap around. Not something that's easily available. You'll need to hunt it from private used market or have access to company/business liquidation sale (which seldom comes with dedicated graphics). Just pure luck to score such a deal.

          $200 ? i7 ? 16gb ram ? 2gb nvidia ? Probably a cracked screen.

          And you can have 100000gb graphics memory but a GT920 to play solitaire.

          Don't expect a GTX950 at $200 even for a used unit unless it's your uncle sold it to you.

        • -4 votes

          @phunkydude: i'm sitting next to one right now.

          This is the issue a few of you have, your so stuck in a mind set of PC MASTER RACE WOO (i f*ing hate that term).

          Jump on gumtree and facebook buy sell swap groups, plenty of last years model pc's.

          Take for example this one on this page, it's a good deal. Someone has it a few months puts it on facebook / gumtree they paid $1059.

          They ask $800 for it, it doesn't move, a lot of people have a stigma of second hand pc's especially laptops, this can be well founded especially with the overheat issues toshiba had in 2011.

          4-5 months in, it's not moving top offer guy gets is 350. Lowers price to 700 after a bit, finally gets an offer of 550 takes it.

          Theres a lot of this around especially on the fb buy sell swap groups, for every piece of junk with a glossy finish and a non dedicated Gcard in the 1-250 range, theres normally one or two decent laptops around the 350+ mark.

          Given that quite frequently you can pickup a reasonable laptop if you buy at the right times.

          You can disbelieve it all you want but go back and look at pricing history and sales.

          Every 6-12 months there are new laptops bought out, most of the time it is a slight upgrade at best, sometimes it's even the same laptop in a new shell, sometimes they've even removed bits (sony looking at you).

          Got a computer illiterate mate, wanted to buy a laptop 2 months before EOFY. Worst time to buy, has a lenovo with integrated graphics, paid $600 for, thing was a piece of junk but warranty came through so he got to have his choice of replacements.

          Cheapest reasonable laptop within his range was an entry level model with an extremely average g-card for $750 talked it down to $680. So he's now rocking an i5 with 8gb ram, dedicated graphics, the thing plays cod fine.

          $680 new, these things have been found online as low as $520.

          Seen a few people trying to sell theirs on various fb groups, no cracked screen working fine, they whack it up after $700, someone posts up the lowest price its been all of a sudden, no one will touch the thing anywhere near $500.

          Then you see it selling for around the 350-400 mark.

          They don't seem to hit the sweet spot until they go below the 300 mark as everyone seems to have the idea that if a laptop can surf the net, play dvds and not look like its 10 years old its worth 100-250.

          I'm curious to know what cities you guys are in if you never see this, might have to advetise my laptop there when I upgrade.

          Also just for reference : Last 3x laptops :
          Current which is around 2 years old :
          http://www.graysonline.com/retail/BN-PSPMHA-01C00L-R/compute...
          came upgraded to 16gb with a 2tb drive hd and bluray drive.

          Purchased from JBhifi end of year clearout in 2014, paid $790 for it with its ticket price being $1300.

          Previous:
          Samsung forget model i7, nvidia dedicated graphics (forget model again) 8gb ram, 1tb hard drive, bluray drive, grabbed that one from jbhifi as well around the same time a year earlier, ticket price was $1397, got it for $1090 something sold that one after upgrading to the toshiba for around the 500 mark I believe.

          Previous to that :
          Some toshiba thing can't remember if i5 or i7, nvidia graphics, can't remember the ram but was decent for the time and 750gb hard drive, dvd burner, I think it was the first LED screen laptop i had, was $1600 at the time marked down to 13 something, got it down to 1000 flat. That one came from JB as well. Sold that one when I got the samsung for around $400.

          Previous to that :
          Some asus thing, was actually a great laptop, came from MSY, didnt get a good deal on it at all, I think I paid around $1100 for it which was its retail rate at the time. reasonable cpu, reasonable gpu, reasonable ram, played stuff fine.
          A year later struggled like hell to get $450 for it.

          Maybe it's different in your city, just how it is here. The thing I have noticed though each year, it gets harder and harder to match up with what you've already got and get above it.

          After I got the samsung they weren't making a comparable model anymore, moving over to other companies it was very hard to find stuff at comparable specs in the same price range, I had to bargain the crap out of two stores and then got lucky and found one at my local jbhifi that was being replaced so used that as an advantage to bargain it down.

          Even now for the $800-1000 price range, there arent many 1080p touch screen laptops with decent g-cards, 16 gb ram, 2tb hard drive (even better with an SSD in there as well).

          You get options in some directions but not others, the few i've been looking at for the moment have a better CPU or a better Gcard, but thats about it, but you do the research and know how to bargain, you always get the good deal.

        • -1 vote

          @railspider: gotta shop around, found best times for buying from retail outlet are when JBhifi are phasing new models in.

          A lot of the time you can find models sitting in the store that they need to move, a lot of the time theres hardly any update between the models, but they need to move it they're happy to slash prices (modbury and elizabeth are extremely happy to do so, they may play hardball, but once they know you have cash ready to go and they can move it, miracles happen).

          You need to research the crap out of whats good on the market at the time, I went with an onboard Ati (still call them ati im old) one year, it could barely cut butter, had tons of issues with drivers, turns out that series was a bad batch, it happens, ask anyone who bought one of the first R series back in the desktop days.

          Be prepared to deal with bloatware, if you buy from DELL or many of the other big brands a lot of the time you can be paying for their latest marketting campaign. Toshiba, Acer, Asus, Lenovo, Samsung, HP, you can get these brands extremely dirt cheap with parts that rival or trump the competition.

          Some will have crap build quality (acer, lenovo looking at you). and most of them are stacked with bloatware, so one of the first things you'l be doing is decrapping your pc.

          I've obviously hurt a lot of feelings of the desktop devotees or I live in an area where the seconds market is nothing on the east coast, but at the end of the day if you sit down and what works out for you go with it.

          The machine mentioned up the top is great bang for buck, if you are working on my system, grab it, decrap it, enjoy the hell out of it, next year at EOFYS or end of year clearout if you find a better model at the same price or around you can jump on it, sell this one and get a bit back, for many it's a good upgrade system especially if you have the legal ability to claim tax as well.

          For the desktop guys, you gotta understand, back in the old days and this coming from a veteran pc gamer, I remember the joy of having a desktop was upgrading parts, but upgrading windows, especially with the latest games…. have been reducing like crazy. I still remember the old days when I was still able to rock a pci 3dfx banshee playing all the latest games on a cel 400 for years after it's dead by date.

          When it couldnt cut it anymore, saving up $200 to whack in a sparkle geforce 2, and she lasted me a years.

          It's just not like that anymore especially with the amount of terrible ports these days. I still remember having a 5900 and an amd64 and struggling to play lock on modern aircombat.

          I migrated to the laptop upgrade program after I learned of a lot of guys at army doing it.

          It does require a bit of legwork but as pointed out by a few guys I toured with, as much as you think you are gonna buy a machine one year and be upgrading parts in it 3 years later, a lot of it ends up in storage, just like on base, 2 years in you upgrade the Gcard, , then not long after that you want to upgrade cpu and mobo, then ram, it turns into what they'd call Granpa's axe.

          It's the best axe around, it's been around since he was a boy, it's survived so many battles, so many trees. He's looked after it really well, and its been great value, he bought it in 1930 and all he has ever had to do was occasionally replace the wedges, and occasionally the handle, oh and he's had to replace the blade a few times.

          During postings and such it got to be a complete bitch to cart around all my spare parts and i'd always find myself selling them and a lot of the time having to give them away (rather then let each town's cashies make a good profit).

          Since gumtree and facebook have come into their own with bss groups its become so much easier to move the gear now, but there still needs to be a demand and with that demand people prepared to cough up coin. I can tell you right now in elizabeth in this area (Edinburgh and surrounding areas) which is facing an ice epidemic at the moment, theres not a lot of people buying, and unlike the local cashies we find a lot of people especially via gumtree / fb bss can tell when someone is selling a laptop cheap because its stolen or for drug money, but a lot of it is people just wanting to move the system without the hassle of people not showing up, cashies giving them hardly anything for it then charging near retail.

          Here in Adel, it's pretty easy, looking at the local bss pages theres currenly an i7 Hp with 8gb of ram nvidia dedicated and 1tb hard drive going for 350 from someone i've dealt with before who's safe to buy from.

          On base right now theres a guy selling a toshiba not far off my model for $600 ONO and it's already been slashed down to 500 ONO.

          So the deals are there.

  • +1 vote

    this is temptingggggg

    thks santa …. I have kick A desktop, not have laptop for when I travel………….bought one.

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    What are the performance gains over the i7 7500u compared to the i7 6500u small or huge difference?

    • +2 votes

      Geekbench score for the 7500u versus the 6500u
      Single 4100 / Multi 8000
      Single 3800 / Multi 7200

      keeping in mid, the 7500u is 300mhz faster than the 6500u so the scores above are a direct result of a faster clock, not architecture improvements.

      Also keep in mind that 300mhz clock increase is accompanied by more power draw and more heat. So yes, you'll get more performance, at some trade-off of battery life. The idle power draw should be slightly better and they improved the power usage in certain CPU tasks, like video playback.

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    not a big gain over performance ….. Intel focus is more on power saving currently, so if you have a 6500, spend your spare change on beer.

    touch screen would have been nice for glass so I could clean the screen with my tee shirt, but hey, it's 16GB and 256 GB SSD, and space for one of the 750GB SSD drives I got from Amazon via Oz bargain for $115 US.

  • +1 vote

    Should I buy one
    If I have MacPro 2015 10?

    • +2 votes

      The question is whether you need one.

      Mac Pro is a desktop, or do you mean Macbook Pro.

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        MacBook pro is way more $$$$$.
        I have Macs and PCs …… can't even get an I5 MacBook air 128GB 8GB RAM for this price ….. yes, Win10 and OS X are different…. but what do you use most …. desktop or laptop ? Are you happy to switch between OS's ?

        Think I will always own both OS's … and hang out for bargains from both …… now to wait for the next MacBook release and end of model run-outs in 18 mths time, I I enjoy the Lenovo …. and Ebay is always eager for notebooks that aren't too old.

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      about same

  • +1 vote

    I need a laptop and like this price, but it just looks a bit boring to me. Too plasticy and not very thin. Touchscreen would have been good too.

    • +1 vote

      Dell Dimension from the outlet then?

    • +4 votes

      touch screens are for tablets and phones …. use them on a laptop and you see finger prints while you try to do work ……

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      My brother just bought a 2-in-1 ThinkPad (not E570), but it is very sturdy and the casing has a nice matte finish. Keyboard and touch pad are quite good. It is quite bulky and ugly though. But very sturdy and very well made. Screen is beautiful.

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    Is this a good laptop for price for studying and basic gaming?

    • +1 vote

      Yes.

    • +4 votes

      No for basic studying and gaming you could spend less and get a perfectly fine machine.

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        So what would you recommend, still want dedicated graphics and ssd

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          Get it if you want a dgpu.

          Get a cheap laptop if you just want one for studying.

    • +2 votes

      Yes.

      In my experience at uni, 15.6" is a bit big though.

      The lecture seats can be a bit small and the tables not offer much space.

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      As long as you don't mind lugging it around. I got sick of taking my 15.6" around at uni and just gave up on having it. Granted it was closer to 3kg, but still consider the weight if you want to take it in every day.

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        Would anyone recommend or know of similiar specs in a 14" or thereabouts for around same price.

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    Doesn't mention it, so I'm guessing the keyboard has no backlit?

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    No Win7 support = no buy.
    Gonna wait for a good skylake laptop deal.

    • +2 votes

      hmm, Microsoft are trying to bury win7….. Win7 support is probably off most manufacturers roadmap … Microsoft are doing better deals for OEMs on Win 10 licenses than Win7 …… I love the Kingswood and carbies, now it's BMW and EFI.

      • +1 vote

        Fuel injectors don't spy on you and send your data to microsoft, the NSA and various advertisers ;)

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        Can you DBAN and install win7 yourself?

    • -3 votes

      your an idiot

      • +2 votes

        Are you trying to be ironic?

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    Got similar lenovo laptop and the gtx950m is great, seems about on par with a PS4

  • +3 votes

    I reaaaally want to do this but…Lenovo are a piece of shit company that have been caught installing rootkits and other malicious software on their computers for years.

    • -2 votes

      Reinstall OS yourself. Problem solved.

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        Superfish was found in PC BIOSes, reinstalling does not remove it.

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          It's almost as if he has no idea what a rootkit is and just posts comments to sound smart.

        • -2 votes

          @potplanty:
          It's almost as if you have no idea, or deliberately trying to obfuscate the fact, that persistent or firmware rootkit is a minority among rootkit types; and, Secure Boot, as on this laptop, prevents booting into third-party rootkit'ed installations.
          Lenovo Service Engine (LSE) was an anomaly because, unlike malware, it wasn't installed stealthily - manufacturer incorporated it into the product they were selling, as any manufacturer may do. But never mind that, go spread FUD.

  • +1 vote

    Any good deals on the X1 carbon?

  • +1 vote

    Why would you have portable work station with ultra mobile processor instead of full quadro? Mine 3630QM (nearly 4 year old..) is still faster then this one.

    • +1 vote

      You've answered your own question - this isn't a portable workstation.

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    Good to mention this one is IPS screen too

  • +2 votes

    so tempted again but will wait till after xmas specials. this is "starting at 2.3kg". very heavy

    • +1 vote

      yeah bit heavy but has space for normal sata drive as the 256gb boot drive is a plug in card ……so plenty of room for another platter drive (2tb) or another ssd (500gb) …. ideal for an apartment dweller who doesn't have a study and doesn't want a desktop on the dinning room table.

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        this is ideal for my business but im not sure if im travelling so i dont want to take the risk of carrying a heavy machine

  • -1 vote

    TA any deals to match the 5.5% Woolies card currently with Groupon?

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    Would these specs process fhd video editing?
    Edit, I live in an apartment do desktop is not really an option.

    • +2 votes

      If space is a concern and you need speed, try the Skull canyon NUC (barebone)

      http://www.scorptec.com.au/product/Branded-Systems/NUC-&-Min...

      It is much more powerful than this laptop as it has two additional CPU cores. You will need to provide your own Operating system though, a solid state drive (m.2) and also a monitor to mount the NUC on.

      Otherwise I'd be looking at a laptop with a much beefier CPU. Dual core i7U processors are still slow compared to a i5HQ quad core

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    Any Ultra book with 500Gb SSD\PCIE…light I5\I7 great battery life\removable?

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    Does cashrewards work with this offer?

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      yes, 7% - front page of website.

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    How is the battery life on this thing?

  • +1 vote

    Don't forget 7% cash back through CashRewards!
    So $985 after cash back

  • +1 vote

    No HDMI and no backlit keys kill it for me.

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    Surprised at the upvotes on another Lenovo deal. Heavy laptop, annoying non-standard keyboard, terrible after sales support, no backlit keyboard, useless optical drive. Good luck to whoever buys these due to the shocking after sales support. I guess the upvotes are purely on price alone for basic specs?

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      I am also surprised. It looks cheaply built. Sure the specs seem good but it is damn heavy and not slim at all.

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    Couple of questions about this laptop, hope you guys can help me out:

    1. Does this laptop boast the same (or similar) level of durability that Lenovo is famous for? This laptop doesn't look as "rugged" as it's predecessors.
    2. Other OS' - I'd prefer to have Linux as the primary OS on this thing. Would that be impossible with Lenovo's new models?
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      This is a mainstream laptop or as per Lenovo's marketing, a prosumer or entry level business laptop. I would say, based on my experiences with their older E320 series the build quality is only slightly above a consumer one.

      It has no trademark magnesium alloy chassis found in the T/X series. No MIL-SPEC durability rating. Mostly plastic construction and the weight is just ordinary. The keyboard is rated above average. No business features like fingerprint reader, smartcard or dock port.

      Linux support is not documented, it'll have to be mostly a DIY thing.
      https://support.lenovo.com/au/en/documents/pd031426

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        Thanks for the info scrimshaw… Guess I'll give this one a pass.

        I think a nicely specced T series would be the best option for me.

  • +1 vote

    I purchased the 14" other Lenovo deal recently posted. I have to say the experience thus far with Lenovo has been awful. I was one of the first to order it (under 4 upvotes) and after almost a week, no updates. I contacted them today and they said there is a shortage on parts and will be late Jan before the expected shipping date. WTF. Not happy. Will be cancelling the order.

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      Will you be buying the E570 now that you have cancelled? Or a different laptop? I'm curious to know what else is out there at this price point

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    How does this one stack up against the xps 15? Was looking at those from the Dell outlet a couple of days back, but missed out then. Now considering waiting for the next batch to come up in the outlet… Specs seem similar though somewhat lesser.

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    Hi guys, how would an i5-6300HQ stack up against this i7-7500? Dual core compared to quad (and i5 compared to i7). Asking the question because comparing this deal to this

  • +1 vote

    A warning to those looking to buy and expecting it soon (ignore for those who are willing to wait 1.5 months+): I bought the other deal on the E470 (https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/282085). It says they would update the order status within 2 business days - didn't happen. I called them up and was told they are short on parts (probably because of all the orders from Ozbargain) and will only get them by mid-January. This pushed out the expected arrival to 3rd of February - significantly later than the initial arrival time of 9 business days (30 December). Poor communication on their side.

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      Just received mine from the previous deal yesterday. Pretty unhappy seeing as it's now even cheaper.

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        When did you place the order? I am assuming you are referring to the E470? If so, an even more disappointing experience!

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    Hello all,

    I am considering this and the Dell Inspiron 15 5000, which after their deal and cashback, works out to be about $100 more expensive than this ThinkPad. The specs are very similar with some components being better than the ThinkPad:

    Same CPU
    Same RAM
    1TB HDD rather than the 256GB SSD but this isn't that important to be as I have a Crucial 512GB to replace.
    NVIDIA GeForce GTX 950M 2GB GDDR5 vs AMD Radeon™ R7 M445 Graphics with 4G GDDR5 Graphics Memory (not sure which is better)
    Dell has a touch-display screen of the same size.
    Dell has a backlit keyboard (but I heard ThinkPad's keyboard is better?).

    Is it worth going for Dell? Does anyone have any experience with Dell's build quality? My last laptop is a Lenovo IdeaPad and it's still going strong after 7 years of usage so I'm leaning towards the ThinkPad but graphics is fairly important to me.

    http://www.dell.com/au/p/inspiron-15-5567-laptop/pd?oc=z5108...

    Thanks guys!

  • +1 vote

    I ordered E470 from last week offer. Ordered on 18/12/2016. Delivery scheduled for 26th January. That's more than 5 weeks. Order if you are happy about delays. Called the number given. They straightaway jump into T & C s and claim it can be delayed.

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      can you cancel it for free?

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    Just to let you all know that after placing an order on Christmas Day 25/12, I just got my E570 today (04/01/2017).

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    Deal is back on until tomorrow: http://www3.lenovo.com/au/en/deals/current-offers/laptops-fo...

    If anyone has purchased it can you comment on battery life please?

    • +1 vote

      I am able to use the E570 for 3-4 hours (using battery saving mode in Windows 10) in one charge. Light usage (word processing, web browsing, etc).