I was just checking out V20 prices and came across what looks to be the cheapest it's ever been.
Original 5% off Sitewide at eBay Deal Post
Beware this is grey import, not aus stock as described according to Feedback
not only that, they also intentionally lie about their stock being in Australia when they actually send it from overseas trying to cover it by "if stock low than we send it from overseas etc." :(
But I've nothing but praise for their support. I'm happy to deal with them again as grey importer.
I have nothing against grey import. In fact I have done it 2-3 myself. Different people have different needs and value different aspects of the deal. My problem is with saying the stock is in OZ but in fact it is overseas! You might want to claim the GST (TSR or your business) or perhaps you want to pick it up the next day or you value the 2yr samsung local warranty or whatever reason.. So if you want grey import than go for it, if you want local go for it but dont deceive us that it is in sydney when it is in china or something !!!
You might want to claim the GST (TSR or your business)
You might want to claim the GST (TSR or your business)
I think you make some good points about grey imports and the issues invloved, but I think you will be disappointed quite regularly if you expect grey imports to include GST and allow for a TRS cashback.
or you value the 2yr samsung local warranty or whatever reason
or you value the 2yr samsung local warranty or whatever reason
Also, I get your point, but you should never expect a 2 year Samsung warranty on an LG phone ;-)
On the topic of warranties, it could be quite important for the LG phones, as many of the more recent ones have been known to suffer from the "boot-loop" issue.
If the seller is dishonest about the location of their goods, it makes you wonder how they will treat you if you need warranty service…
On top of that their stock count looks super dodgy to me, they've sold about 15 since I found this and there's always been 10 or 9 available.
It looks like they top their stock up back to 10 after each sale.
But I still ordered one
Grey import + bootloop? Good luck!
It's concerning how ozbargain doesn't care about the quality of products posted. As long as it's a "bargain", it will reach the front page.
Better than paying twice the price locally when I could buy a 2nd one with that money saved… And it's not like it's manufactured in Aus, is of higher quality, or is sourced from the same place or anything ~
I think the point skeptic was trying to make was that you're better off with local stock/warranty should it develop any faults.
I bought a grey import last year and have had no issues. Great phone. Not worth paying another 300-500 more for an extra year of warranty for me.
I bought an LG g4 via an ozbargain deal on ebay from this same seller.
13 months later I got the bootloop issue. The whirlpool thread is full of people with the issue.
Anyway kudos to the seller because they repaired the grey import phone out of warranty. I'm using the phone to type this. Didn't pay a cent.
Having said that I wouldn't buy an LG phone again. When first reports surfaced of the bootloop issue, LG weren't even acknowledging there was an issue for quite some time. I wouldn't hesitate buying a grey import phone from this seller though.
Same here. Bought G4 and they repaired it out of warranty. I had to send it back to a Sydney address as well.
It is another thing that the repaired one has some other minor issue.
Pretty good seller I would recon compared to few local ones.
Wow lucky - I was LG Nexus 5X grey import. After around 8 months of use I got the bootloop issue. Seller refused to fix.
I don't think Ozbargain should police quality. How could it? It's an opinion as some people are willing to accept more or less than others. Same goes for risk. There are countless examples on here of people saying, for example, they would buy an inferior but similar product and replace it every year for 5 years rather than paying a lot for a superior quality product but pay 6 times the cost. I say, allow it all, add in as much data as is necessary into the description and then people can make up their own mind. Caveat emptor.
V20's haven't had the bootloop issue that plagued the older LG models.
whats the deal with grey imports? is it a warranty issue that people need to be aware of or do they have different specs as these phones are not designed for the Australian market?
Warranty is more nightmare claiming over seas. Normally you have to pay upfront postage which cost $50+ and they may not even honor warranty.
No trs and also warranty claims can take months.
The price of a cheap import.
In saying that I bought my last 3 phones on grey import, 2 from eglobal and other is eBay seller who had a dodgy 90% rating.
Lucky all arrived with no issues
Depends on the seller. A lot of the sellers like DWI and eGlobal, they send you a FedEx or DHL label for you to send the item back to them for free. Some sellers like QD, they require you to send the item to Sydney at your expense, then they forward the phone to the repairer. Then there's that final type which you mentioned, sending overseas yourself with a lot of money, but this is generally only applicable for China wholesalers that sell globally, e.g. GeekBuying, GearBest etc etc.
Local has 2 year LG Australia warranty. Grey market would have to be shipped back and only has 1 year warranty.
This code can't be applied to your order.
I didn't try and place an order, but the terms for that code look like it should be valid for this.
Have you used it three times already?
Even without the code $549 was quite a bit cheaper than anything else I found
never used the code ever.
I just tried and it applies for me, weird
login to your paypal and see if it works.
Yep, still works for me after I log in to paypal
There's nothing in the terms for the code about excluded items, I'd say it might be related to your account
nice boot loop
I've had one for 5 months so far and it has been great. Touch wood. My only issue is it can't be rooted (yet) and the battery life isn't as long as i expected.
You've got another 2-3 months left in it.
Yeah i don't know about that. How many have been sold and how many have boot looped? Yes the per cent chance is clearly higher than other phones but the chance of it happening to me i would say is slim (touch wood). LG sold about 55 million handsets in 2016. How many bootlooped?
I'm not defending LG by the way, i'm just hoping i stay in the non-bootloop camp.
My past experience with LG boot-loops is it starts around 9-12months. Fingers crossed for the v20, but it's no picnic v10 owners at the moment.
I'd never buy an LG again without a local warranty.
I'd rather not a Looping Guaranteed phone, especially one based off the G4 design..
I've had the phone since release, and haven't had an issue with it. It's been widely recognised as one of the most underrated phones of the year, and for good reason.
The audio's insane with the quad dac enabled; the screen resolution and size is perfect for watching videos; the camera's great; and the second screen is really useful.
Don't knock it just because LG had a few G4's that boot looped [I had a G4 too and it worked (still does) perfectly]. The V20's good bang for buck, even given current competition.
I have a v20 and I 100% agreed, im glad I bought it instead of waiting for the lackluster s8
Still hurts seeing it for half the price I paid :(
There's been more than just "a few G4's that boot looped". And it's not just the G4 - the V10 has the same issue. Head over to the Whirlpool forums and see how many Nexus 5X's are now bootlooping.
Oh, and there's this https://www.xda-developers.com/lg-bootloop-lawsuit-adds-nexu... so, not even the G5 and V20 seem safe. The problem is the issue doesn't typically rear it's ugly head until around the 12 month mark. So yes, your V20 probably is fine…for now.
If it's happened in V20s it's definitely on a way smaller scale than with the G4 - if it were as bad it'd have sunk the company by now.
Also like I said I've had it since launch, so I've had it for as long if not longer than those who've had the issues. All you can really conclude from that and what's been reported is there's a slim chance it'd happen. No need to hype up boot loops just because it plagued LG with the G4 and to some extent the G5.
@organamisms: Like I said, it doesn't generally occur until 12+ months, so it's impossible to know how largely the V20 is affected, if at all. Nobody is hyping anything up. You can downplay it all you want, but there's a disproportionate number of unhappy G4, V10, Nexus 5X, and G5 owners all affected by the same issue.
@aja12: LG's handling of the bootlooping was just as atrocious
@aja12: G3 too.
@organamisms: And to some extent the N5X. And to some …
@aja12: My GF's Nexus 5X boot looped at 12 months and 11 days. DWI won't honour the warranty even if it is just outside the period and my GF doesn't want to push them to fix it.
Agree too. Bought the phone when it was first released from JB. Fantastic phone to use.
Had no problems whatsoever.
Had a G3 before that and all fine as well.
That's exactly what I was saying for the first 11 months that I had my 5X. "Fantastic phone!"
Unfortunately, even a fantastic phone that's stuck in a boot loop is still just a brick.
I really hope that you're right re the V20, but given LGs handling of past problems there's going to be a lot of people that will take a long time to trust LG again.
I've had mine for two weeks now and love the performance.
My issue was when I purchased it, the phone in the box was a LG K10. This created an issue at JB HiFi when I took it back the next day. The box was for the V20 and factory sealed and everything. I still don't know how it happened but put me off LG.
@newdad: I also had the similar bootloop issue with G3 and even after 3 replacements the problem couldn't be addressed. I've distanced myself from any LG's for the time being even though the G series bloody brilliant units provided they don't do the loop dance.
Would you say it's a worthwhile upgrade from a G4?
It's based on the G5 and meant to be a really good phone.
i have one and its a really good phone.
The G4 was superseded by the V10 and shared similar specs. V20 uses late 2016 flagship specs. Pretty good price for this phone if you are happy with grey imports.
This phone is meant to be good for audio
Easily the best phone for audio, ever. I wouldn't go grey import though personally.
Thanks OP - have bought from this seller before, pretty straight forward transaction.
Can't wait for the 13th month mark when all the grey imports start magically freezing, seizing up, and bootlooping…
Is this a good phone or should i wait for V30. I so want to use their wide-angle lens.
it's good but there'll always be something better down the line…
You might regret it when you see the V30 in 4-5 months but then again you're paying half the price of a new release phone. You can buy next years model the year later for the same price as 1 new one, so its really up to you.
so buy 2 older phones for $500 each or buy 1 new one for $1000 kind of thing.
Just bought this phone 2 weeks ago and I'm really loving it
Still no root unfortunately (only for the US version strangely), although there is a sizeable bounty on XDA for one. I'm waiting for it since the Axon 7 has too many issues for me.
For what it's worth, the Korean versions (F800/S/K/L) can be rooted too, I'm fairly sure the reason other versions can't be rooted is due to a locked bootloader. I'm considering importing an F800 because this phone ticks pretty much every box for me, and root is something I kind of need personally.
I was actually considering this phone just because of removable battery
Now knowing this still has the potential of bootlooping and non root rules it out completely.
Good luck chasing up warranty if grey import
I wouldn't even buy an Aussie LG after the whole boot loop fiasco, let alone a grey import.
Lad I work with didn't even get the loop - one day his just stopped powering about 3 months after buying it.
Pretty sure it's not just a 'few' phones as well - there's been full on lawsuits over this.
Seller is based in Taiwan. Bought a brand new Galaxy S6 from them 18 months ago. Phone arrived within 3 days (from Singapore) and it is still going strong. They have excellent feedback for a reason.
Yeah I bought from qd_au (who are overseas 100%) and my phone/s arrived within 3 days. It's not the seller…yes they are efficient, but DHL are just the best :)
Bought a G4 from them and 15 months later it got the boot loop. Contacted them and despite it being over a year they sent me a refurbished G4 replacement. Considering they technically didn't have to do this I was pretty impressed. Think I saw a post saying they aren't doing that anymore, but the fact they did any replacements at all is pretty nice.
Had this phone for 7 months. Wouldn't describe myself as a heavy user, but the battery drains far too easily on this, even when you try and cut corners. The size of the body is far too big considering the screensize. ROOT and unlocking of the bootloader (on dual sim H990DS model) is unlikely to ever be available unless you go for single SIM variant. Biggest selling point is extra SD card WITH dual SIM, removable battery, FM radio and IR…oh, and quad DAC for the audiophiles.
I've personally opted for the Huawei brand to try them out. Currently using P10+ though still havn't decided if i want to give it up for the Mate 9. I'm testing both currently.
Reminder: Don't buy LG V20. It has the same hardware issue as Nexus 5x.
That's not true. Just because it's added to the case do not mean anyting in regards % of chance this will happen to the V20 on mass.
That 'Goldstar' quality really shines through in their mobile design division.
If it was just 1 or 2 models, sure but almost every high-end model they've made over the past 2-3 years years has reportedly suffered from the same type of glitch.
Yep, nearly a year in there haven't been any meaningful reports of bootloops with this model.
7 months = nearly a year?
You're right, it's late, more like half a year but in any case we should have seen reports by now if it had the same issue.
@RedSky: The G4 was released in late April 2015. Reports of bootlooping surfaced late 2015/early 2016.
Yup give it a year, and see how many people with pre-LG G6 phones bootlooping. Perhaps G6 also does too just noone knows yet.
It s a time ticking bomb.
You would expect particular scrutiny to the V20 given 2 models before them had issues meaning any similar issues would be widely flagged online.
Realistically you could apply the same scepticism to any smartphone model, and wait a year to check for issues or buy locally to guarantee warranty recourse.
@RedSky: Two models? You means four. LG only changed from a solder to a glue for G6, so who knows how badly the V20 could be affected?
You could apply the same skepticism to any smartphone as you could to an LG phone for bootlooping? Haha, yeah ok.
I got this phone few months ago and love it. I don't have any battery issues and I'm a heavy user. Dual camera is the best, although, I think the actual main camera on my LG G4 was superior, it seemed faster with better colours and not so washed out.
LG G4 Camera was one of the best!!!
Agree if not for bootloop, I wouldn't use s7
Not buying an LG mobile atm, especially a grey import with no warranty after the issues I had with my 5X about a year in. I bought my 5X from HN after seeing it on Ozb, and thankfully their service centre took care of it. I would hate to try and attempt a return on a grey import.
Worth getting or worth waiting for the OnePlus 5 or Google Pixel 2?
I know very little about Android phones as have been Apple user until recently.
LG = bootloop don't buy. You do not know and one day happens after 8-12 months
It happens after 12 months so no warranty is covered by then.
HellG = no grey import buy. Period.
Gaaaah! I'm so confused! I've convinced myself that this is my next phone but then I have this LG doubt lingering over me… I am hesitant to go grey import but Jb are flogging thins for 899 still…
My credit card has extended warranty with it so if I buy grey import hopefully that will cover it beyond the 12month warranty most of these eBay stores claim to have… So atleast I would get "local" support post 12 months which is by all accounts when issues are most likely to arise…
What is alternate phone at a similar price point with similar features? I'd consider a one plus but no band 28… And doesn't look like the 5 will have it either..
Moto G5 Plus?
HTC10 when on sale.
Maybe if this was $350 I can forget about bootloop. At $520 it's still too much money to be a looping brick.
Never again after my experience with the LG G4, boot looped within 6 months. Sent back to HK for repair, didn't use it for months as I had another phone then switched back to the G4 out of necessity.
Been using it for 2 months, now the screen is locking up with horizontal lines and flashing in and out. Quick google and it seems the digitizer is on the way out and need to replace screen.
Terrible, terrible, terrible quality phone; i'm not spending another dollar on it!
I've had one of these for a few months, and these are my thoughts:
I'm pretty happy with it all things considered, but my main uses are music, internet browsing, and casual photo use.
Beware of these guys. Returned my G4 to them a few months ago to their Sydney P.O Box. Was over 12 months old so they don't honour the LG 1 month Warranty but said they would get repaired for $50.
After a couple of months of bad communication they tell me they never received my phone. Australia Post enquiry showed it was delivered okay but with Express Post there is no signature to prove it. Last communication just said they can't help me. NOT IMPRESSED.
You need to buy insurance! Postal companies are so unreliable nowadays I definitely would recommend spending that extra $3.
Sorry to hear that. Didnt have issues when I returned my phone out of warrantly ( 14 months). Why didnt you send it via parcel which can be tracked.
So, they offered to help you when they had no obligation to and you chose to post the phone via Aus Post as unregistered mail to a P.O Box and then they lost interest in communicating with you after some months. They definitely sound very dodgy.
Yes, my fault for not sending it registered. I sent express post which is tracked to the extent that there is a number and Australia Post have record that it was delivered but there is no signature to prove anything.
Worse thing was it took QD_AU nearly a month to actually tell me that they hadnt received it even after asking the week after sending it.
They looked after me at the end with my LG g4 bootloop.
Ultimately it is really LG that's rubbish.
Just buy from Kogan, they are much better with the warranty, replacement. Just ask for a price match they will happily do it for you.
That is a great call. Have sent them an enquiry.
Could you share the update if you get one please?
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