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BF-T1 20CH Walkie Talkie - US$13.99 (~AU$18.21) Delivered @ BangGood

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BF-T1 20CH Walkie Talkie - US$13.99 (~AU$18.21) Delivered @ BangGoodAffiliate
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Specification:
Brand BAOFENG
Type BF-T1
Frequency 400-470MHz
Antenna Built-in Antenna
Channel
20
Distance 1-5 KM
Color Black
Battery Polymer lithium battery
Weight 120g
Regulations US PLUG, EU PLUG
Power 0.5W-1W
Features:
Mini size slim fashion design easy to carry.
Built-in flashlight function, listening function, radio function, scan function,alarm function, keyboard lock function.
20 memory channels, voice prompts and electricity reminder.
Charger connector and Andrews phone interface can be universal.

Package Includes:
1 x BAOFENG BF-T1 UHF 400-470 mhz mini walkie talkie (1 piece)
1 x Charger
1 x 3.7V 1500mah Li-ion Battery Pack
1 x Belt Clip
1 x Earphone
1 x USB line
Lanyard

Warning: Operating this radio on certain frequencies may breach Australian law, if you are inexperienced do not purchase this unit. See here.

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  • ChatGPT-4 on 16/10/2017 - 20:23

    Are these things legal for use in Australia?

    • Elderlymango on 16/10/2017 - 20:25
      +3

      The Baofeng BF-U3 which operates on the same frequencies as the one listed was not approved according to this website.

      http://www.typeapproved.com.au/not-approved-baofeng-bf-u3/

    • suchis on 16/10/2017 - 20:25
      -2

      I thought it is only 40 channel that works now. I heard the 20 channel will only have a static sound…. no workability at all?

    • LowRange on 16/10/2017 - 21:02
      +4

      No and the Australian UHF CB operates on 476 and 477 Mhz, however this unit operates on 400-470MHz so it doesn't cover the CB band.

    • mskeggs on 16/10/2017 - 21:05
      +2

      This can transmit on frequencies outside the normal CB band, so is not legal to operate in Australia on those channels.
      I think if you have an amateur radio licence you can own them and operate them on permitted frequencies, but I don't know which are allowed (I don't have a licence).

  • ian.h on 16/10/2017 - 20:32

    Want to pull the trigger on these as xmas presents. Anyone know if they'll work OK?

    • Elderlymango on 16/10/2017 - 20:39

      They will work, but they may not be legal to operate on certain frequencies. Best to do some research before transmitting.

    • mskeggs on 16/10/2017 - 21:01
      +2

      They would be a bad present.
      They are not legal, and could result in fines.
      They may also have compatibility problems with other handsets.
      Try something like this instead:
      http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/ORICOM-PMR780-HANDHELD-UHF-TWO-WA…

      • FabMan on 16/10/2017 - 21:55

        You know of anything with a longer range, I could search, but if you know of one that would be great? Thanks.

      • eug on 16/10/2017 - 22:03

        I wouldn't get that Oricom one, they don't support CTCSS tones.

        These do, come with rechargeable batteries, and have a longer range:
        http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/ORICOM-PMR1285-UHF-CB-HANDHELD-RA…

        No idea how well they perform though.

        Legality aside, the BF-T1 radio in this deal will work fine with local CB radios. Do keep in mind you have to buy a programming cable as well - they don't come with the radio, and the radio doesn't come programmed with our frequencies.

        • Thrift on 16/10/2017 - 22:05

          the BF-T1 radio in this deal will work fine with local CB radios.

          No. Australian CB UHF is 476.4250 to 477.4125 MHz, which is out of band for these units.

        • eug on 16/10/2017 - 22:11

          @Thrift: They work fine out of band - you can set the band limits in the programming software.

        • Thrift on 16/10/2017 - 22:26

          @eug: Not if you care about exceeding spurious limits and causing QRM well outside your intended frequency.

        • eug on 16/10/2017 - 22:33

          @Thrift: No spurious emissions seen on an SDR, 7MHz isn't very far out of band so no surprise. I'd be surprised if the cheap $40 radios you can buy locally are cleaner.

    • Thrift on 16/10/2017 - 22:04

      These will be useless for you - they don't do Australian UHF CB frequencies. The frequencies it does cover are licenced by community/emergency services, utilities, businesses, and amateur radio.

    • pegaxs on 16/10/2017 - 23:30

      I own two and they are very small. Not much power in them. But I have not turned them on or tested them at any length as they appear to be wrong frequency for CB and will need to be programmed. I have other programming stuff for my other Baofeng radios here, so it shouldn’t be an issue.

      And yeah yeah, illegal, whatever. It’s a 0.5w radio. If you use it for nefarious uses, then you deserve to have the book thrown at you, but the chances of being caught are slim to nil if you are using them in a regular fashion. But please, if you buy them, get them programmed correctly for the correct frequencies.

      Edit: oh, good lord. I wish I could neg my own post… I only received these late last week and didn’t read that they only did from 400 to 470. Wow, these are super illegal then. I could have sworn when I bought them, that they were up to 477 and I was just going to knock out the stuff I’m not allowed to access, but it seems I can’t. I’m going to try and program them for CB out of curiosity, but outside that, if they dont work, I will bin them…

      • eug on 17/10/2017 - 00:35
        +1

        You can - just set the band limits in the programming software before entering the frequencies in.

        Out of band tx is nothing new; Americans have been doing MARS/CAP mods for years.

        There's no doubt that they're illegal, it's up to the user to decide what they want to do. Driving at 61km/h in a 60km/h zone is illegal too.

        • WARvault on 17/10/2017 - 01:10

          I'm not challenging what you are saying, but could you link to a video of someone setting the band limits on a BF-T1? What are your recommended band limits?

        • eug on 17/10/2017 - 01:45
          +1

          @WARvault: There's this video.

        • pegaxs on 17/10/2017 - 08:06

          @eug:

          I’ll give them a program and a test today and report back on if it was effective or not.

          I don’t care about legality, I just wanted something very small and light to store for emergencies that could be used on CB bands.

          I have an old Tait radio here that I haven’t used in years and it was programmed out of band to work on CB and it worked fine. Seems a shame to waste these, so no harm in seeing how well they program and work.

        • WARvault on 17/10/2017 - 11:00

          @eug: Thanks eug. I bought the radio and cable. Is there a forum full of enthusiastic BF-T1 hackers?

      • tinkko on 17/10/2017 - 08:03

        If I can use as FM radio, don't bin it, sell it to me,

  • supnigs super skids on 16/10/2017 - 20:36
    +9

    What about when at primary school the walkie talkies can communicate with truckers and you can say " breaker, breaker you are a mofo". Then the truck driver gets very mad and threatens to find you. Hahaha

    • Helenn on 16/10/2017 - 20:46

      Lol or the cane trains..

    • Diji1 on 16/10/2017 - 21:49

      I think it's best to just pump 1990's gangsta rap over the CB radios to truckers, they really appreciate having their musical experience expanded.

  • lysp on 16/10/2017 - 22:14
    +1

    These are definitely illegal and would not recommend using this in Australia at all.

    https://www.acma.gov.au/theACMA/engage-blogs/engage-blogs/In…

    Maximum penalties that a court can impose for the unlicensed operation or possession of a radiocommunications device are significant. Individuals face up to two years imprisonment and companies can be fined up to $255,000 (sections 46 and 47 of the Act).

    400 is used by many government, emergency services as well as private businesses.

    eg.
    459/468 = SES
    418-422 = Metro emergency services network.

  • SickDmith on 17/10/2017 - 00:30
    +3

    Can we be a bit more productive here?
    Is there a similar model which is legal for Australia?

    • mskeggs on 17/10/2017 - 08:10

      The issue is the way the law is written, although there are good reasons for its approach.
      It is only legal for people without a licence to own transmitters that are "class licensed". This includes stuff like CB radios, wi-fi devices, cordless phones.
      Apart from these, there are transmitters commonly called HAM radios. These transmit in reserved frequencies and/or with higher power. To own one you need a special licence. The first step is to attain an Amateur Radio licence, which includes an in person exam.

      Because the radios in this post transmit on reserved frequencies, they are illegal to possess unless you have a licence. This is sensible, because you don't want the local kids drowning out the ambulance walkie talkie next time there is an emergency.

      There are a couple of links to legal, class licensed CB walkie talkies in this thread. The reason these imported ones get posted is because they offer high power and lots of features for a cheap price, but it is for exactly those reasons they shouldn't be used if you don't know what you are doing.

    • OzBragain on 17/10/2017 - 13:21

      Can we be a bit more productive here?

      Plenty of productive comments on here and very real warnings that were omitted from the original post. If you don't understand the implications please don't buy something like this.

      Is there a similar model which is legal for Australia?

      Not at the same price but suggestions have been listed here and here

  • mostlygordon on 17/10/2017 - 06:51

    This is a nice contrast to the $1000 walkie talkie I purchased yesterday (and very nearly posted to ozrippedoff). Think I will get this one too. Thanks, OP.

    • eug on 17/10/2017 - 09:20

      What did you buy?

      • mostlygordon on 18/10/2017 - 21:10

        A Kenwood TH-D74 fully kited out:-) Very nice radio, but far too expensive for what it is. I should have my OzBargain membership revoked;-)

        • eug on 18/10/2017 - 22:48

          Very nice! It's in a totally different league. :)
          It's great that the big names are still making nice new radios. It looks like a dying hobby.

  • mostlygordon on 17/10/2017 - 07:21
    +2

    BTW, I usually post what people can use these things for legally. But I'm a bit flu'ed up today, so if you are clueless please don't buy this…

    • pegaxs on 17/10/2017 - 08:42
      +1

      Yeah, I agree with this. These radios are not for inexperienced people to just buy and use. My concern is that people will buy these thinking they are CB radios out of the box and they are not.

      While they may not ever experience problem using them, they might find if they only buy one that it’s useless as it won’t pick up the channels they need it too.

    • eug on 17/10/2017 - 09:25

      Fully agreed too - please don't buy this unless you know what you're doing. They come with the wrong frequencies programmed, and don't come with a programming cable. They will not work with other local cb radios out of the box.

    • Gaz1 on 17/10/2017 - 16:55

      Wouldn't these be stopped by Australian customs anyway?
      I'm sure I remember rules against importation of non-approved radio transmitters.

    • WARvault on 18/10/2017 - 00:45

      When you are feeling better, I'd like to hear your suggestions! I am clueless and bought with the program cable with completely good intentions. Thanks!

  • WARvault on 17/10/2017 - 11:09

    I feel like the inexperienced guy being talked about in this thread. I live on a major Victorian highway. This seems perfect for snooping on why a cop car just buzzed past full lights and sirens. I picked up the programmer cable so I can program my preferred frequencies. Does anyone have a link to a guide specifically setting this radio up sanely?

    • mskeggs on 17/10/2017 - 21:06
      +1

      Pretty sure you'll be out of luck. I think all the cops use encrypted radios now to spoil your party!

      • WARvault on 18/10/2017 - 00:39

        Thanks, good to know. SES? CFA? air traffic control? I'm after a guide on what settings to plug into the programmer to get the most out of this nifty radio…

    • OzBragain on 17/10/2017 - 23:01

      This seems perfect for snooping on why a cop car just buzzed past

      My guess is you're about 30 years too late

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