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Free animated Christmas book from the bible society.

In Bible Society’s 200th year, we want to help you share the really good news with your friends and family this Christmas. We’re giving away The Really Good News of Christmas – a quality eye-catching little book on the true message of Jesus’ birth. This colourful 28-page book features simple text and bright illustrations that will appeal to all ages. These booklets are normally $2 RRP but we would love to give you up to three copies for free - with free postage to Australian addresses (redeemable once per household).

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        • frewer on 22/11/2017 - 23:37

          @ninetyNineCents: Yes there are 613 laws in the Torah were make specifically for the Israelite. They includes do's and dont's , also they are man-traditions. However, Jesus simplified it to TWO commandments.The most important one,” answered Jesus, “is this: ‘Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God, the Lord is one. Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind and with all your strength.’ The second is this: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’ There is no commandment greater than these.” Mark 12. Now you tell me if I enslave my neighbor, then do I fit to be "Christian" ? All the commandments either suggest we do or dont to others, chiefly [neighbour] people. Why should I love my enemy one may asks. Because most likely our enemy is our neighbour.

        • frewer on 22/11/2017 - 23:38

          @ninetyNineCents: :) nice tried, I see this coming hence I put

          I think Christianity is more like bitcoin, in a sense of freedom and decentralization( not the rest ie blockchain, mining network, verification).

          But meh why should you pay attention.

        • ninetyNineCents on 23/11/2017 - 10:41

          @frewer:

          F: But meh why should you pay attention.

          99: I did pay attention, i just replied with my own observation, that is of course im entitled to have one.

        • ninetyNineCents on 23/11/2017 - 10:51

          @frewer:

          F: Yes there are 613 laws in the Torah were make specifically for the Israelite. They includes do's and dont's , also they are man-traditions.

          99c: Jesus never said any of the 613 are man made, in fact he encourages everyone in Mat 5to learn, teach and follow them.

          F: They includes do's and dont's , also they are man-traditions.

          99c: Well that makes jesus either an idiot for not knowing this or some sort of liar for saying they are gods.

          F: Mark 12. Now you tell me if I enslave my neighbor, then do I fit to be "Christian" ?

          99c: Mark 12 doesnt say that at all, your paraphrasing is saying something very different from the text. For starters the word Christian is never used by Jesus and doesnt appear in the gospels.

          F: All the commandments either suggest we do or dont to others, chiefly [neighbour] people.

          99c: Yes they do what is your point. THey also say its ok to have slaves, beat them and rape virgins …

          F: The second is this: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.

          99c: Jesus was quoting lev 19:18, i suggest you go read that chapter. A few lines later it takes about slavery. What you fail to appreciate is under moses law and other ancient cultures, not everyone was considered equal or human or a neighbour. A bit like the American Const, All men are created equal didnt apply to blacks, indians etc.

          The same is true of Moses law, Jesus here is quoting Moses law, which he knew included rape, violence, slavery and many other actions we wouldnt considering are examples of loving your neighbour.

          After all Lev 19:18 says love your neighbour and then very close by in the text it gives you details about slavery. Slavery isnt lvoe is it ? You dont understand what he said.

          F: All the commandments either suggest we do or dont to others, chiefly [neighbour] people. Why should I love my enemy one may asks. Because most likely our enemy is our neighbour.

          99: Equality is a part of love, and yet Jesus doesnt say gays or women or non jews are equal.

          So tell me where does Jesus ban slavery ? I will clue you he doesnt in fact he does the opposite he gives many parables about slavery and in the book oif Philemon… well ill let you read it, its only a page.

          If jesus is that grand, why would he fail to teach slavery is wrong… ?

          Why did Jesus co-author the laws of moses with all their evil and horrible practices ?

        • frewer on 23/11/2017 - 17:54

          @ninetyNineCents:
          Jeez cherry picking much ? Read (Matthew 15:1-20). Obviously, you knew what I meant or here from dictionary.com

          Christian
          noun
          7.
          a person who believes in Jesus Christ; adherent of Christianity.

          Jesus came not to abolished the Laws but to fulfilled it and elevates it to a higher level. ( I dont think you want to know detail just yet )

          We all made in image of God, hence we ought to treat/respect others with dignity, respectfulness and rights that have intrinsic values. There 2 commandments covers these and also cover all other commandments

          TLDR; I can see your issue that your opinion Jesus/God is an evil being. How's so ? Why Jesus is evil ?

          Why did Jesus co-author the laws of moses with all their evil and horrible practices ?

          Here is my attempt to answer it, if there is good and evil, then there must be a Laws giver whom is transcendent being. If your question is "Why are you so afraid of subjective moral reasoning?" then here is a better answer

        • ninetyNineCents on 23/11/2017 - 19:12

          @frewer:

          F: Jeez cherry picking much ?

          99: Sorry what exactly did i cherry pick ? Next quote my mistake.

          ~~
          F Read (Matthew 15:1-20).

          99: What point are y9ou trying to make exactly, there are many points in there..

          F: Obviously, you knew what I meant or here from dictionary.com

          Christian
          noun
          7.
          a person who believes in Jesus Christ; adherent of Christianity.

          99: Wrong the term is a much later invention, it would be an anachronism to use a term that didnt exist then and wasnt used, because all his followers including the apostles and jews were actually jews.

          In fact you can see this for yoruself by reading jesus own words in Mat 5.


          F: Jesus came not to abolished the Laws but to fulfilled it and elevates it to a higher level. ( I dont think you want to know detail just yet )

99: I hope you can prove that from the bible.

No where in the OT is there are any mention of the following .

- god having a son
- nazareth
- jesus
- his mother mary
- pontius pilate
- being born bethlehem
- dying on a cross
- having 12 apostles, mentioning any of their names
- garden of gethsemany

you get the point.

          F: TLDR; I can see your issue that your opinion Jesus/God is an evil being. How's so ? Why Jesus is evil ?

          99: Have you read the laws of moses ?


          F: Here is my attempt to answer it, if there is good and evil, then there must be a Laws giver whom is transcendent being

99c: Thats nonsense.

          F: . If your question is "Why are you so afraid of subjective moral reasoning?" then here(youtube.com) is a better answer

          99c: I never saiid anything remotely like that , dont invent words that i never said.

  • minijumbuk on 21/11/2017 - 17:59
    +18

    Hey lets start posting bargains for free fridge magnets from plumbers and electrician too. I dont see why not.

    • Cluster on 21/11/2017 - 18:04
      +20

      The business won't threaten you with eternal damnation if you refuse their services too.

    • Hunnypooh on 21/11/2017 - 18:10
      +4

      That’s actually a good idea if it is free.

      • taki on 21/11/2017 - 22:09

        Free is free, no matter how free it is?

        • Hunnypooh on 21/11/2017 - 23:12

          yeah take it or leave it, I left it.

    • incipient on 21/11/2017 - 18:43
      +1

      Haha links please? Actually threw out my ratty old ones and could use a few new ones.

    • belongsinforums on 21/11/2017 - 20:34

      ozbargain went through a phase of freebies last year. many of the sites asked for the deals to be pulled.

    • Juice08 on 21/11/2017 - 20:54

      What is RRP of said magnets? NOT a bargain!

  • Hoolio on 21/11/2017 - 18:09
    +10

    This is like getting junk mail for free…

    • Hunnypooh on 21/11/2017 - 18:10
      +2

      Better than paid junk mail surely

    • registradus on 21/11/2017 - 18:29
      +2

      agree

    • [Deactivated] on 21/11/2017 - 19:51
      +7

      This IS getting junk mail for free.

      Putting a price on something doesn't give it value.

      Removing the price from something doesn't make it free.

  • SimpleRoger on 21/11/2017 - 18:35
    +1

    I don't understand people, if you don't like it then don't click on it, be respectful jeez.

    • pennypincher98 on 21/11/2017 - 18:36
      +6

      Be respectful jeez.

      Oh the hypocrisy! Using Christ's name in vain..

    • bloobat on 21/11/2017 - 18:51
      +1

      Yeh it's actually ridiculous when you say 'be respectful'. Everyones entitled to their own opinion.

      Just look at blaire Cotterell, jailed and fined for being disrespectful againt Islam. While I don't agree with all of his views the fact he was taken to court for it is quite frankly ridiculous

    • [Deactivated] on 21/11/2017 - 19:53
      +1

      OzBargain requires users to comment to place a negative vote.

      OzBargain operates because users vote.

      • SimpleRoger on 21/11/2017 - 20:04

        The deal itself economically had nothing wrong with it. It was a freebie mate.

        • [Deactivated] on 21/11/2017 - 20:30
          +4

          Like this deal, herpes is also free.

          (Although some people pay for it)

  • FlatulentFrank on 21/11/2017 - 18:36
    +14

    I cannot believe how many triggered people have flocked to the comments.
    Imagine if it was the Quran? People would lose their minds!!!
    We live in Australia and have free choice, if you don't like something you can choose not to take part in it…. Simple
    Don't shit all over people's beliefs because you think differently. It makes you look like angry degenerates.

    • bloobat on 21/11/2017 - 18:55
      +6

      I mean there is this thing in life called proof. Something every religion is sorely lacking.

      • FlatulentFrank on 21/11/2017 - 19:03
        +2

        Case and point. We are not here to discuss the validity of religion my friend.

      • Eeples on 21/11/2017 - 19:05

        Proof denies faith…and without faith God is nothing.

        • [Deactivated] on 21/11/2017 - 19:38
          +1

          God is real.
          Real requires proof.
          Proof denies faith.
          God requires faith.
          God is real.

        • Hunnypooh on 21/11/2017 - 22:28

          and yet we all have faith in something at the very least such as ozbargains being a place of bargains. does that mean God is something?

        • ninetyNineCents on 22/11/2017 - 09:52

          @tshow:

          Which God ?

      • SimpleRoger on 21/11/2017 - 20:06
        -1

        You need to do some research on how slim the chances of the universe forming actually were.

        • [Deactivated] on 21/11/2017 - 20:11
          +6

          What are the chances that there is a God? It doesn't even merit a numerical value.

          What are the chances there is only one God? What are the chances he has chosen to reveal his existence to our species? What are the chances we are obedient to the right teachings?

          Whilst the origin of the universe is uncertain, and the probability our current best theory is inaccurate, it is still much better to pursue knowledge than to resign to the intellectual suicide that is religion.

        • Rayve on 21/11/2017 - 20:21
          +2

          Ah yes, the 'it's improbable' argument. That is literally the argument from incredulity married to the argument from ignorance - I don't understand how something happened and it seems really unlikely as well.

          I'd also like to know how you made an argument for the 'unlikeliness' of a universe having the characteristics of ours when we have a sample set of 1 and it does match ours. Statistically every universe we know of has the characteristics of ours. The rest of Christian (non) arguments about things like universal constants being unlikely are just rubbish - we simply have no other samples of universes so we do not even know if other values for such universal constants are even possible at all. In other words we might exist in the only possible universe.

          And don't get me started on the puddle's view of his hole universe and how it was made just for him.

        • ninetyNineCents on 22/11/2017 - 09:53

          You need to do some research on how slim the chances of the universe forming actually were.

          Maybe you should now tell us if God is so intelligent why did he make up such a horrible society and laws in Moses laws ?

          WHy didnt God share something really amazing like Slavery is evil, women and gays and everhone else is equal, kids shouldnt work they should goto school and learn…

        • [Deactivated] on 22/11/2017 - 12:38

          Anything that has factually happened had a 100% chance of it happening and just an incomplete understanding explaining doubt. If you toss a coin and get a head, it didn't have any chance of being a tail. It was a head and always will be. No scientific experiment can show it could have been a tail. If it is 28C today without rain, there was no chance of 24C and storms, just bad predictions based on incomplete information. Statistics relate to observations and predictions and in no way control the universe.

    • dufflover on 21/11/2017 - 19:01
      +8

      It's actually quite ironic seeing their supposed tolerance on display.
      The only thing more annoying than a Jehovah's witness or an Evangelical (of which most religious people are hardly that) are the ones who won't shut up about whinging about them!

      • belongsinforums on 21/11/2017 - 22:42
        +1

        How about the ones who believe that their beliefs in supernatural beings trump the marriage or beliefs of others? Or that those who don't believe in their fantasies should face death or rape for apostasy?

        • dufflover on 21/11/2017 - 22:56
          +1

          Where do you think we live? The Middle East?
          They can think whatever they want in a free country. Last time I checked no one has been executed or jailed for not believing in whichever faith.

          Like I said, a silent religious person that you prob wouldn't even know is religious is probably a far more friendly person day-to-day than someone who has an axe to grind like you seem to.

          As that saying goes; you know a vegan is a vegan cos they'll be to sure to let you know :P

        • belongsinforums on 21/11/2017 - 23:40

          @dufflover: how many examples do you need? Here's one https://www.google.com.au/amp/www.independent.co.uk/news/wor…

        • belongsinforums on 21/11/2017 - 23:46

          @dufflover: another recent high profile one. Yes, people get jailed for not believing in this crap: http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/world/jakarta-governor-…

        • belongsinforums on 21/11/2017 - 23:47

          @dufflover: incomparable. It's not at all illegal to be vegan. However, it's still illegal to blaspheme against Christianity in NSW

        • dufflover on 22/11/2017 - 07:50

          @tomkun01: you really do think this is OzGold Bullion on the Middle East.

        • belongsinforums on 22/11/2017 - 08:31

          @dufflover: Just retorting this "Last time I checked no one has been executed or jailed for not believing in whichever faith."

        • [Deactivated] on 22/11/2017 - 13:49

          @tomkun01:
          You said they are incomparable and then proceeded to comparatively list the difference.

        • belongsinforums on 22/11/2017 - 16:37

          @Frugal Rock: thanks

    • mit on 21/11/2017 - 20:21
      +5

      Unfortunately, it wouldn't be Australia if we didn't shit all over other people's beliefs. As a country, we're excessively entitled. We have tall poppy syndrome because nobody deserves better than us. People and companies who earn more should pay more taxes so it's more even. If you don't support gay marriage, you're immmediately a bigot - nope, you aren't allowed your own view with this one. We only see 1% of the world's refugees come to our shores, yet we spend millions trying to get rid of them because we don't want them taking our jobs and benefits. etc etc etc…

      We're already degenerates. The crap here only proves it. And yes, I came to see the crap.

      • FlatulentFrank on 21/11/2017 - 20:45
        +4

        @mit - thank you.

        Thank you sincerely for showing some sort of reason within the pure filth people write.

        Have you seen the 2005 film Idiocracy? We are closer to that than I'd like to admit.

        • DarkProject on 21/11/2017 - 21:48

          the whingers on here!

      • belongsinforums on 21/11/2017 - 22:42

        you're right. like JV says - screw the gays! vote no! if they don't like it, be straight like us NORMAL people.

      • ninetyNineCents on 22/11/2017 - 09:54

        If you don't support gay marriage, you're immmediately a bigot - nope, you aren't allowed your own view with this one

        You wouldnt say that if the religious people had their power back and started killing everyone who disagreed with then like in the bad old days.

        • mit on 24/11/2017 - 18:01

          Of course I wouldn't. I'm saying it now for the society of today. I'd say something else for the 'bad old days'.

          It's reactive views like this that hinder humanity. We're too busy getting revenge for the damage done in the past and use that as an excuse for our terrible behaviour in the present and future. In the case of the LGBT movement, shunning anybody who doesn't support their views is supposedly 'okay' because that's what they had to deal with in the past. Anybody can see it doesn't make you any better a movement/person for doing so. Before you think this is fine, be aware that this is the reason for most wars that still continue today.

        • ninetyNineCents on 24/11/2017 - 19:01

          @mit:

          It's reactive views like this that hinder humanity.

          Would you allow Adolf Hitler and the nazis to have the same freedom, that religions have today in Australia. Would you let the nazis run schools ?

          The problem is ytou dont understand that religion is just politics with claimed authority from god. Labour supporters believe in the Labor way, same goes for Liberals, the difference with religious people is they believe god wants it their way. There is no difference between Labor, Liberal and religions they are all political parties.

          All religions exist to take control of said country, its just a question of whether they have the numbers. YOu can be sure if australia had a majority of muslims there would be Shariah law and Australia would turn into the same shithole all the other islamic countries around the world are. The same is true of Australia, a lot of bad things happened when Christian morality and the church influenced Australia. The churches were very much part of the disgraceful actions against the a boriginal peoples. We only accepted the aboriginals as equals the more we in Australia thought for yourselves and forget tot he old traditions of religion.

          In the case of the LGBT movement, shunning anybody who doesn't support their views is supposedly 'okay' because that's what they had to deal with in the past.

          Some LGBT are like that, not all. Its not fair to label them in that way and give free run to the muslims. We all know there are far more fundamentalist muslinms out there, they are building their ghettos and its a disgrace that they are allowed to teath that evil system to any kids in public schools.

          Before you think this is fine, be aware that this is the reason for most wars that still continue today.

          I never said it was fine, i want everyone to have a fair go. I think you are misunderstanding that the part of the LBGT that you identified is just another political group that has found a start for their agenda. This sort of behaviour is not the LGBT way, there is no creed of gays that requires them to be or want that.

    • Iwantthatbargain on 21/11/2017 - 20:28

      True..that's the reason none of the previous Islamic posts had any negative votes ;)

    • [Deactivated] on 21/11/2017 - 20:44
      +3

      It seems that a sizeable number of users believe that this deal isn't valid.

      That belief seems to be proverbially defecated on.

    • [Deactivated] on 21/11/2017 - 20:52
      +1

      We live in Australia and have free choice

      We are online, discussing a sensitive topic. Everybody has free choice to positively vote this as a deal and negatively vote as bad deal or report it as spam and leave a comment as to why this is not a deal. I may be from anywhere of any religion. The only thing that matters are comments.

      Imagine if it was the Quran?

      Nobody here is defending Quran or Islam, it is hands down the leading ideology used in guerrilla warfare violence after American wholesale state-sanctioned violence. Christianity had a very long time to evolve, it went through the Renaissance and the Enlightenment period which many other cultures and religions did not.

      • Rayve on 22/11/2017 - 00:12
        +2

        Indeed and where Christianity is in it's more 'pure' state we still see mobs killing children because they are considered witches. All religions thrive on ignorance and many rely on fear as well. None can stand an open mind and genuine curiosity.

      • ninetyNineCents on 22/11/2017 - 09:56
        -1

        Nobody here is defending Quran or Islam, it is hands down the leading ideology used in guerrilla warfare violence after American wholesale state-sanctioned violence.

        Thats absolute bullshit. Islam has a real problem everywhere it is the majority and shaoes peoples lives.

        Iraq for example is a disaster because muslims attacked other muslims. THe west didnt force them to do this, they did it because well thats how its always been and religion is part of that mess.

        Christianity had a very long time to evolve, it went through the Renaissance and the Enlightenment period which many other cultures and religions did not.

        No Christniaty faded and lost its power, something that isnt true of Islam. THey were and are mosts when they have their power over everyone.

  • pennypincher98 on 21/11/2017 - 18:39
    +7

    No thanks, I get enough weird apocalyptic evangelical stuff at the train station but I am happy to pass it on if someone wants it!
    Seriously, while this is technically a deal you can just walk into your local church and get the same spiel.

    embracing the negs but hoping people aren't going to be so shallow and not just be Christmas and Easter Christians

    Also, just be aware:

    By claiming your free copies you agree to allow Bible Society Australia Group (including Koorong) to contact you.

    I don't know quite what that means, but even if everything else is fake they have your address.

  • eggboi on 21/11/2017 - 19:18
    +14

    Distributing fake news for free is not a deal.

    • Hunnypooh on 21/11/2017 - 19:31
      -1

      and how often do we get genuine news?

    • SimpleRoger on 21/11/2017 - 20:08
      -1

      How is the bible , fake news?

      • Rayve on 21/11/2017 - 20:23
        +12

        Myth pretending to be fact is the definition of fake news. Or do you believe every word of what is written in the Bible? Or do you think only the bits you like are true and the rest is 'allegory'?

        • Hunnypooh on 21/11/2017 - 22:33
          -1

          I think the stories in the bible are just like any other stories, it's open to interpretations and holds a certain degree of truth, but they may not have necessarily happened or state a fact.

        • belongsinforums on 21/11/2017 - 22:44
          +2

          @Hunnypooh: right. like the time anakin became darth vader. that part was true. but the part about him slaughtering those sand people? fake news.

        • Hunnypooh on 21/11/2017 - 22:55

          @tomkun01: how do you know that is true? yes it is in the movie and yes it was in the story. However I believe there is a truth in anakin being corrupted by the power of the dark side (don't we all?)

        • belongsinforums on 21/11/2017 - 23:36

          @Hunnypooh: i never said anything about a movie

        • Hunnypooh on 21/11/2017 - 23:37

          @tomkun01: well you didn't but I am mentioning the movie just because i read the book and watched the movie =D

        • belongsinforums on 21/11/2017 - 23:37

          @Hunnypooh: what movie?

        • Hunnypooh on 21/11/2017 - 23:38

          @tomkun01: The movie called "anakin became darth vader"

        • belongsinforums on 21/11/2017 - 23:45

          @Hunnypooh: that may or may not hold some truth to it

        • Hunnypooh on 21/11/2017 - 23:57

          @tomkun01: subjective truth for sure

      • ninetyNineCents on 22/11/2017 - 09:58
        +2

        SO Noahs ark really did happen ?

        I challenge you to collect 2 of ever insect in just your own town or city. That will take a lifetime, now scale the problem to the entire world, and well it would take millions of man years to just collect a pair of all insects.

        Its so obv ious Noahs ark didnt happen and i havent even started on all the other bullshit in the bible. Feel free to ask…for more examples.

  • superadmin on 21/11/2017 - 19:23
    +1

    No deal

  • orangeblossom on 21/11/2017 - 19:39
    +2

    Thanks OP for sharing a good deal! Ordered one for my family

  • superadmin on 21/11/2017 - 19:42
    -1

    Another "free" religious item. https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/343545

  • bargaino on 21/11/2017 - 19:55
    +2

    If you kiss Hank's Arse, he'll give you a million dollars. Now that's a bargain!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KBbwIzIpSLk

  • T Man on 21/11/2017 - 20:33
    +5

    Religions are a business, this is advertising material for their business.

    • Hunnypooh on 21/11/2017 - 22:34

      ain't everything a transaction these days?

      • T Man on 22/11/2017 - 20:41

        Does that make it OK?

        This isn't a deal, this is a site for deals. Not for free methods of advertising religions.

        • Hunnypooh on 22/11/2017 - 20:48

          did i say it's ok? well so long there are religious people, i am sure this it falls under a deal for them.

  • belongsinforums on 21/11/2017 - 20:38
    +4

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    • superadmin on 21/11/2017 - 20:51
      +1

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      • belongsinforums on 21/11/2017 - 22:45
        +2

        some religious nut negged you. fixed it for you

      • chatman on 22/11/2017 - 14:00

        No deal, can't use an audiobook for kindling!

  • AussieDolphin on 21/11/2017 - 20:55
    +6

    Some of the comments on here are terrible. Respect those that believe otherwise just rock on. It isn't that hard. Thanks OP for sharing.

    • belongsinforums on 21/11/2017 - 22:05
      +1

      I am offering a limited time deal of packs of free shredded paper. Give me a pos vote please? Otherwise you're just being terrible and disrespectful.

    • Rayve on 22/11/2017 - 00:23
      +6

      Myths posing as reality do not deserve respect. Do you respect the ideas of people in Japan who believe people came from pea-pods? Or that Prince Charles is a lizard alien? This idea of 'respecting' religious belief is a very recent phenomena that religions are using as a last ditch attempt to get people to stop questioning their craziness. There was no 'respect' for other religions from Catholics for example, quite the opposite - they were happy to label those of other or no belief to be amongst the worst evils imaginable and were happy to sanction their murder and oppression.

      This 'lovey dovey', hippy Jesus is a recent invention designed to make Christianity more palatable but it just another smokescreen to hide their primitive worldview behind. These ideas do not deserve respect. Well thought out, reasoned and evidence based ideas do. A fairytale is no more real no matter how many people believe it and they must be called out if we are to advance as a species beyond a primitive tribalism, dominated by shamans who invent boogymen in the dark and who create a culture around the suppression of actual truth.

      • Drifter on 22/11/2017 - 10:00
        +1

        Myths posing as reality do not deserve respect. Do you respect the ideas of people in Japan who believe people came from pea-pods? Or that Prince Charles is a lizard alien?

        The best one is Scientology. I have Christian friends who mock Scientology. These Christians hate it when I point out their double standards. It's absurd for a person who believes in fairytales to mock another person for believing in fairytales.

  • cantstanzya on 21/11/2017 - 21:12
    +1

    Can't help but feel if this book was about islam comments would be less critical.

    • Cluster on 21/11/2017 - 21:17
      +6

      I would wager they would be more critical.

      • belongsinforums on 21/11/2017 - 22:05

        With associated death threats of course

    • [Deactivated] on 21/11/2017 - 21:27
      +3

      Can't help by feel if this book was about Islam, there wouldn't be 100 upvotes on the deal. Works both ways.

  • imahippy on 21/11/2017 - 21:32
    +2

    Came here for the comments. Wasn’t disappointed

  • ninjataki on 21/11/2017 - 21:46
    +4

    lol so much hate and negs all because someone dared to post a freebie concerning the real meaning of Christmas. Can't we just keep it real and respect?

    • bargaino on 21/11/2017 - 22:06
      +7

      ninja, you are just inflaming matters further by saying "real meaning of Christmas", when you should know the event long predates the name change made by the Romans, and anyway means different things to different people. You have no special wisdom. Your truth is the next man's delusion.

      A religious Christmas freebie would be welcome, if not considered evangelical propaganda. Try dropping the word "true".
      Even Christians know there are two contradictory birth stories in the bible, and the other two gospels don't even consider Jesus' birth worth mentioning.

      • ninjataki on 21/11/2017 - 22:14
        -1

        http://www.patheos.com/blogs/formerlyfundie/oh-lighten-chris…

        Whatever your opinion on the 'true' relevant to whichever group and standpoint, it doesn't change the point in question being the unwarranted negs and hate crap.

        • Rayve on 22/11/2017 - 00:32
          +4

          So pathetic considering the true hatred that religions continue to inspire, the torture and killings done by the 'righteous' - yes including 'true' Christians, everyday in the name of their 'absolutely true and real' God.

          Words on a computer screen are so mild in comparison to the genuine harm that your belief supports and condones - it is like comparing a candle flame to a nuclear bomb.

          This strategy of false equivalency is yet another recent trick from the big bag of religious defenses.

          By being even a 'moderate' Christian you give sanction to the magical beliefs of others who carry out extreme acts of violence in the name of your 'saviour'. That you probably cannot see that is a testament to how effectively you have been indoctrinated into a magical and non-real viewpoint. Religion has warped your perception of reality and whilst you may not act 'evilly' you do empower others to do so.

      • ninjataki on 21/11/2017 - 22:24
        +1

        Apologetics is always worthwhile though the arguments can go on and on I've found, I do try to look at both sides in anycase. No disrespect meant to you Manic and we can always agree to disagree. Gotta sleep, was blessed with a new arrival in our family today and gotta sleep to get back to hospital early tomorrow. Peace.

        • bargaino on 22/11/2017 - 00:30

          Well congratulations!
          Get sleep while you can. You have to learn that now :)
          I wish you peace too , unlikely that may be for the next six months or so.

          I agree the negs are completely unwarranted, its a legit freebie, even if you must agree to be contacted by the Bible Society (hopefully not at your door at 7am Sunday!)
          but please do not interpret the impolite comments as "hate". I see no hate, but I do see anger.

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