Dishonest Tradies (Theives and Ripped off)?

16/12 There are a lot of people who are sceptical and don't believe me, that's ok. But there are a few here who think I'm trolling. I am not a troll and I've never trolled in my life. I would much rather read a book than troll or whatever you want to cal it. Also I'm not trying to scam RACV: I don't think anything of the items were covered by them. I do not make things up and lie to derive pleasure or gain attention (or anything else) from it. This is my limited experience with tradies and I posted it because I wanted to know if anyone else has had bad experiences with tradies (it was a suprise to me that a fair few have and have shared their stories below which I sppreciate). Obviously I'm not saying ALL tradies are bad, only the ones I've interacted with and has unfortunately left a bad taste in my mouth regarding tradies.

The idea that I need to even add this to an already long post is a bit ridiculous.


UPDATE 2: Called the police and spoke to a woman. Gave her as much information as I could and she said she'd look into it. (Quick edit I amended the part where it said I was watching him like a hawk, I wasn't. That was an auto-correct issue on my phone. I only watch him for 2 minutes)

UPDATE: 15/12, 8.07 am. I called RACV and the police about 30 minutes ago.
RACV home assist requires recorded video surveillance. Honestly, the lady I spoke (RACV) to on the phone gave me the impression that even if you see them yourself stealing things from your house, they won't believe you. She really hammered home about having recorded video of the tradie stealing things. She wasn't sympathetic at all and obviously didnt believe me. Now I wonder how many people put there have had things stolen by tradies, especially ones from RACV home assist. Perfect excuse to steal: given permission to enter home, it's an emergency so the home owner (me) is panicky and worrying about there being more damage, they can eyeball everything and make mental notes. First opportunity they get when they're not being watch is to poke around and steal things.

I called the police, 7 rings, no one answered. Will call again now.

Original post below (very long post and a lot is me being infuriated and ranting)

Hoping this is the right section to post in. A plumber stole from me, what do i do besides contact the police?
Anyone have experience with dishonest Tradies? Or had items stolen from them? I have. I'm BEYOND annoyed and angry right now.

Long post but here are my experiences, both happened recently.
Stolen Christmas and birthday gifts: So I had I had an emergency yesterday and called RACV home assist for help. Cut to the chase, a plumber came and went to fix it (flooding and was just an entire mess). I had bought secret birthday gifts and Christmas presents (not bragging but need to outline how expensive everything was): iPhone x, $2500 custom built laptop, rare not available for purchase anymore collectibles. And some heirloom jewelry (great grandparents adding rings in a box). These were hidden away in a cupboard in the same room the leak/emergency was. Jewellery was special and I moved it with the other presents.

I wasn't watching the plumber like a hawk because I was cleaning up the water and damage as best as I could. He stole all those gifts when I wasn't looking (not in the same room). I didn't even notice. They were in a cupboard a few meters away from the emergency/problem area.

Ripped off: This was last week, I needed a sparky (half the house had to no power) asap. I was recommended one from somebody from church (total stranger).They would come and quote on the day, seemed like a good idea. Long story cut short because this is so ridiculous I couldn't make this up;

  • Late more than TWO HOURS. Two hours and 20 minutes late, didn't call to inform me. I couldn't contact him because I didn't have his number. He never apologized for being late. I had to cancel (and re-schedule) my apeciailist docotor's appointment which I made 12 months prior.
  • Here for <15 minutes.
  • Changed one light switch and one outlet. Wouldn't even give me a quote for another light, as in 'ehats the worst case scenario and most expensive I'd have to pay? Rough estimate'. Wouldn't answer.
  • Another red flag. Wouldn't give me a receipt. I had to wait til Sunday (church) to get a receipt from his employer(?)
  • Guess how much all that was; one light switch (one button) and a wall outlet for less than 15 minutes of work)? $465. Seriously. That's one whole week's worth of pay for me (hospitality)

Comments

  • +2 votes

    I was recommended one from somebody from church

    Report him to god the police.

    You'll still have a mobile number or other contact details right? Your mate at church probably knows him better too.

    iPhone will have an imei and laptop would have a serial number. Rare jewellery will probably have a unique look too so they should be identifiable if the police pay him a visit or search his house.

    But whether you can convince the police to search his house or not may be a little more difficult.

    • +1 vote

      To clarify these are two different trades. The guy who was recommended from church just (in my opinion) ripped me off big time. I will be calling the police, RAVC and I suppose crime stoppers (the police website mention Crime stoppers) first thing tomorrow. The receipts for the iPhone and laptop were with the items, so I don't have the IMEI or serial number :(

      I don't know what to do, I'm the only one who knew where they were stashed (I hid them there) and I know no one knew about them (no one went into the laundry except for me…and the plumber from the time I hid them). Lol I hope that God punishes him.

      • +8 votes

        Call the store where you bought the items and get them to send you a copy of the original invoice. They will have a copy of it, and a lot of places scan the IMEI numbers now because of people trying to scam warranty. It may not have the serial number, but at least you have proof for the coppers that you actually owned the items.

  • +14 votes

    First of all, when you have a tradie over, unless its a renovation and you have nothing to steal, never ever ever leave them unattended for even 1 second.

    Second, never allow a tradie to do work without a concrete quote for work required to be done, otherwise they can charge you whatever they want, and there is nothing you can do about it. The work the electrician did should of cost the call out fee, the cost of the switch and his time, usually they charge 1 hrs worth for part of an hour. So it should of cost about $120 to $150.

    I guess you learnt an expensive lesson. As for the theft you should report it to the police asap.

    • +1 vote

      I had that in my mind: don't leave him alone. But the place was flooding (fast) and water was going everywhere (trailing into ifferent rooms with wooden flooroards), so I was too bust panicky and trying to mop up water. But dumb me was like "surely he wouldn't steal anything? There's nothing thats visible to steal unless you actively open up the overhead cupboards 3 meters away where I hid the gifts. Nah should be fine". I left him alone for just over 5 minutes. I did heard him walk out the front door a couple of times (was in a different room). I actually didnt think he'd steal anything, I'm such an idiot.

      I've learnt two expensive lessons that's for sure. And I'm never going to ask for somebody to recommend me a trade at church again. Appreciate your helpful tips., especially regarding the electrician and quote. I don't have security cameras in my house but now I'm definitely contemplating having some installed.

      • +5 votes

        Why didn't you turn off the water mains?

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          I did. Unfortunately it was flooding a lot. (TMI?) I had just taken a shower and not dressed, so I had to get dressed quickly and run outside to turn it off. I'm glad I didn't listen to RACV home assist when I called them up to report the emergency because he told me to wait for the plumber to turn it off. The plumber didn't arrive for another 20-ish minutes. The whole house would've been flooded.

      • +3 votes

        So this guy had time to search around for hidden gifts, find them & hurry them outside into his vehicle multiple times given the amount of stuff stolen? All within 5 minutes?

        And as someone asks above, why wasn't the mains water turned off? If you call a plumber or insurer and tell them your house is flooding that is the first instructions they would give you. When the plumber arrived he'd likely check that first or immediately go and shut off the main as soon as he realised it was still going.

        This post really does sound like a troll. It has everything: tradie bashing, mentioning of religion (basically flame-war/trolling accelerant), theft of expensive/trendy gifts, indifferent insurer to your accusation & incompetent/indifferent cops.

        • +4 votes

          I'm not a troll. Why would I troll? I don't even know if I should respond to your comment..? But I will just this once.

          The bathroom is basically next to the front (<3 meters). I've clarified many times: I wasn't watching him, I was too busy mopping up the water. I just replied to a comment above yours regarding the water mains: I did turn them off but I wasn't dressed and water was literally gushing out everywhere. I only mentioned the church because that's where somebody recommended the tradie (electrician) and he quoted on the day and hugely ripped me off (someone here said it should've only been <$150). That's the only thing I mentioned about the church, please show me where I was trolling about religions and bashing tradies. I had a negative experience with two tradies, should I not be mad?

          I would suspect all the large corporations are indifferent to these types of things. I don't doubt there are some people out there who claim someone (anyone, really) stole something of theirs and made a false accusation. I don't know what more you want me to say about my phone call with the police? She asked some questions which I answered all truthfully and gave her my contact information.

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      So you just stay in the same room as them watching them hour after hour?

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        I didn't quite understand that either. But now I do, completely. It's better to be safe and vigilant than to have expensive stuff stolen when you're not looking. I mean tradies have the perfect excuse to go into your home and just eye everything that's valuable and worth stealing.

    • -4 votes

      You've got a cheap sparky if that's what they are charging you for callout+1 hour+ parts.
      FYI tradies hate it when you hover while they're working, imagine if your boss was looking over your shoulder the whole time.

      • +1 vote

        I'd never let a stranger in my house unsupervised. If tradies don't want the feeling of a boss hovering around, they should probably go an be their own boss.

  • +15 votes

    Never trust anyone from church!

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    I just noticed an autocorrect error. It says I was "watching the plumber like a hawk". I wasn't* watching him the entire time. Receipts were with everything. So annoyed I can't fall asleep now.

  • +1 vote

    If you purchased the items with a credit card or debit card , you might find you have complimentary credit card insurance.

    I have a debit mastercard and CBA offers 60 days on lost or stolen itmes purchased with it.

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      I don't suppose you know where on their website I can find more info regarding the do you? I'm also with CBA and I bought everything by card. I can't sleep right now so I may as well read up on it, anything would be appreciated.

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    https://www.google.com.au/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=http...

    Also. Why not go to the police now or first thing in the morning for advice too.

    In any case. Considering racv contacted the plumber i would also be telling them.. add in that you saw him in the cupboard but u ddnt think it was anything sinister.

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      Thanks for that, though I don't have a Platinum debit card so I'm not covered :(

      I've just called both RACV and th police: RACV home assist rep needed hard proof (understandable) as in recorded video on camera which I don't have. Also the lady i spoke to clearly didnt believe me at all. I know some people who report tradies (from RACV) stealing may be be dubious, but there's got to be a certain percentage that are true-they DID steal something, especially from those like me, whonare too trusting (alsoa naive) and don't watch the trade like a hawk.

      As for the police, I just called them and no one was there (7 rings). I'll need to call back later. I didn't go last night because I had to sleep (even though I couldn't sleep) because I've got work.now I sort of regret not going in the middle of the night.

  • +6 votes

    Tradies steal from each other on building sites so what hope has a home owner got.

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      Do they really do that? Steal from their friends/other tradies? I didn't know that, I've had very limited interactions with tradies. God I wished I knew about this. The entire time he was here I had a nagging gut feeling that I should watch him. And I ignored that feeling! Argh.

      You're right, if they're willing to steal from other tradies on building sites, we've all got no chance (unless you always watch them).

      • +1 vote

        Learn your lesson. Don’t leave valuables in a place where a stranger has access or nail down anything of value.

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    Yep, hear hear! A very expensive lesson learnt. I guess I should be less polite and a lot less trusting of tradies. It sucks, not only because of the money wasted and nothing can be done about it. But I don't have anymore money to buy any more gifts even just $20 gifts for people. So no Christmas and birthday gifts for anyone.

    • +5 votes

      What sort of person spends thousands upon thousands on presents when it leaves them with literally nothing?

      • -1 vote

        A naive and foolish one who is a little too trusting of others (i.e. me). I dont have literally othing, only a couple of hundred left, most of it goes into food and bills and other utilities. After paying for everything I dont have much money left over for anything, really. i scrimped and saved every cent i could to buy those gifts.

        And i'm sure there's one other person out there who hasn't constantly watched a tradie and have had things stolen from them too.

        • +14 votes

          It's not about naive or too trusting. You spent several thousand on presents while leaving just a few hundred for life, which I find very hard to believe. If it is true, your management of personal finance is disastrous and consider it a much more severe problem than a one-time loss to tradie stealing.

        • -1 vote

          I didn't leave a couple hundreds for life, that was what was left when I bought everything. Misinterpretation of what I said? I essentially bought the gifts all over three days online.

        • +6 votes

          @OzBoganYeah: So iphone X + that laptop are $4000 already, you said you make almost $500 a week. So….you spent 8 weeks wages to buy gifts?! Wow…..

  • +12 votes

    This has to be a troll.

    •  

      Why? I'm not a troll, I've never trolled in my life and I'm not going to start on this or any other website.

  • +3 votes

    I was expecting to see the tradies come on and defend themselves, but nothing!!??

  •  

    I really shouldn't make long posts when it's nearly midnight. I accidentally wrote one sentence that the electrician stole from me. It was the plumber who stole from me.

  • +2 votes

    If you have no proof then its game over. Look at it on the other hand, you wouldn't want to be an honest tradie accused of theft now would you?

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      I completely understand that. However I was the only one there that day and the other person was the plumber, no one else came to the house that day. I was the only person who knew about the gifts and I had pushed them right to the back and in the corner of a cupboard and covered them fully with my coat. I have tore the house down at least three times looking for them. I don't know. They couldn't have disappeared by themselves?

  • +4 votes

    100% got to watch out with tradies. Had a business I had minor involvement in, the day before grand opening the place got ransacked and targeted mainly the LCD screens ~$10K. The facility was locked with an alarmed, it would only make sense if a tradie tipped off some mates as they would know the ins and outs of the building.

    •  

      Damn, that's rough. Did the business managed to get the stolen screens back? Or compensated (insured)? Were the thieves ever caught? I agree it would make sense if they tipped off their mates.

      •  

        We were insured (fortunately) so we really didn't pursue the police to check if they ever found any leads.

    • +2 votes

      No chance of it being someone involved with the business? Everyone seems to be jumping on tradies here. I'm sure opportunistic crime doesn't only apply to trades. If more professionals came to your home or place of business I think we would see the same thing.
      I am a tradie and work for a reputable company. I wouldn't risk a long term well paying job for the chance to grab a few items in someones home.

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      I used to work with an assessor a few years ago, there was a crew in Melbourne that specifically targeted new businesses in the opening phases, things like security generally isn't fully dialed in yet, stock is complete with the latest goods and lots of them in prep for the grand opening, and in a lot of cases these new stores were opening up in new shopping strips with not a lot of stores in already and not much else around.

  • +2 votes

    Blame god, it's all part of his plan.

  •  

    My daughter does reno's, she's decided to do it on her own, all this blows my mind.An Electrian left his holesaw at her job, worth about 30 bucks,tried to ring him twice about it. Although she organise's other trades like Electricians,Plumbers etc for bigger jobs you just don't know what there capable of and i'm sure she thinks there as honest as her like I would being her father, I'll have to tell her about this.

    Goodluck with it all mate…

    I was raised up on religion, soon as I was old enough I converted to an atheist…

  • +5 votes

    I'm not convinced the tradie stole your stuff. What are the timelines? How long was it between you last seeing the presents and the tradie coming?

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      I last saw the presents the night before when I hid them there. So roughly 14-ish hours? I guess the tradie came about 16 hours (give or take) after I moved them there in the cupboard.

  •  

    Hi, what type of CBA card do you have, might have insurance on it and reclaim the costs of stolen goods

  • +10 votes

    Somehow, I find it a bit hard to believe.

    iPhone x, $2500 custom built laptop, rare not available for purchase anymore collectibles. And some heirloom jewelry (great grandparents adding rings in a box)

    And this stuff was in a cupboard in the same room. Even if you were gone momentarily, for the tradie to look into the cupboard. Collect these things and walk away unnoticed is pretty far fetched.

    •  

      It might seem farfetched but it certainly isn't impossible. I was in a different room and in the hallway which does not have a clear view to where he was. I know he walked out the front door a couple of times after installing the new tap/hose/I don't know what it is called, I heard he's footsteps, is a little suspect. You don't need to believe me, that's ok.

      The fact the people steal things in this day and age is ridiculous.

  •  

    You were watching the tradie "like a hawk"

    You had the following items stolen "while you weren't looking": "iPhone x, $2500 custom built laptop, rare not available for purchase anymore collectibles. And some heirloom jewelry (great grandparents adding rings in a box)."

    These aren't things you can shove down your pocket or the front of your pants.

    Your story isn't adding up.

    •  

      As I mentioned in a previous comment, that was an auto-correct error. I watched him for the first 2 minutes then I went to mop up water and clean the floor/throw out soaked rubbish. I made this topic when I was tired and annoyed (it was almost midnight). I'll amend it to say "wasn't".

  • -2 votes

    Cleaners didn't clean. I used an unprofessional set of professional cleaners for end of lease cleaning. They've left more marks than there originally were. Now the estate agent is asking to cleanup or they get the same done using their professionals. The cleaners gave me 3 days guarantee in written but not picking calls, texts or emails. I feel cheated and already tired to go to the house and clean all the mess myself as I dont want to spend again.

    Can someone advise what steps could I do to make sure the culprits feel the heat as well.

    Thanks all in advance.

  • +1 vote

    I had tradies come in to do some work in terms of converting a garage to a spare room and cased my whole house and once the job was done, we had them do some odd jobs around the house , some of which basically ended up showing them our laptops / jewellery cabinets etc. They came back a few days later and stole around 18k$ worth of items. Everyone from cops to insurance knows it was them as they had a lot of inside info which only those particular tradies knew.

    We were trying to help them out as they had come as refugees a few years ago and we were trying to drum up business for them….Thats how they repaid us.

    •  

      Whoa. That's crazy. So I'm assuming they were caught by police? At the very least you were insured and were compensated, yes? That really sucks, you try to be nice and help them out and they steal from you.

      •  

        Nah the cops said they wouldn’t be able to prove it but that they will keep track to see if they get reported again. Luckily we were insured. Although insurance doesn’t really cover much in the way of jewellery . It basically meant my wife lost all the sentimental jewellery I had ever bought for her.

        Oh well we made sure to tell everyone who we had initially referred these guys to. To not sure them. They would have got so much business out of us and our friends who also wanted to help them out but they got greedy. This is why even though I am a migrant I have a totally different outlook now on people who queue jump to come here . It may not apply to everyone but it does show that some of them do it because they want the easy way out and quickly instead of coming the appropriate method. These guys came via the boats and even told us as we were from the same country that they were told to come that way by their friends already here that it was the fastest way to come here

  • +4 votes

    Just because you didn't 'see' him take the goods, doesn't mean you can't be sure of the person who stole it.

    You sighted the items just before he arrived.
    After he left, you noticed the items were gone.
    No one else had access to the items.

    There's definitely the offence of Theft there, but a much more serious offence is Burglary.
    Burglary however, requires a "Trespass" and then the "Theft" itself.
    An argument that he's been given permission to enter so therefore isn't trespassing is weak, because that consent was given with conditions… that is to conduct repairs as a tradesperson. Not authority to the entire premises to do whatever he likes for as long as he likes.

    You need to go into your nearest Police Station and provide a Statement of Complaint in relation to a Theft/Burglary.
    You can identify a suspect, and even though you didn't see him do it there is no one else who had access to the items in the short time between when you last saw them and when you discovered them missing.

    Providing that statement (as opposed to a phone call that can easily be dismissed as too hard/too busy/couldn't be stuffed investigating), ensures you at least have a job created, and a job number (for insurance purposes). But with a good statement provided, its enough for cops to at least interview the guy, and potentially get a warrant to search his premises for the stolen items. SOONER THE BETTER! Also contact local pawn shops/cash converters to inform them of the stolen property possibility heading their way, and provide them with any police job numbers you get.

    That POS scum came into your house and stole from you, right under your nose.
    I'd hazard a guess he's already known to police, and if not… he should be.

    Take action, don't let this slide as a learning curve.

    •  

      Thank you for the detailed response, I appreciate it :)

      I'll definitely go to the police station if I don't get a follow up call. The cop I spoke to on the phone said she'd call me back (which may not happen as you've aptly described).

      •  

        Also check the policy wording of any home insurance. Some will cover for content theft only if you haven't given them permission to enter, and some will.

  •  

    Forgive me for asking, but did he not say goodbye to you before leaving? I can understand the iPhone and jewelry, but where did he hide the Laptop? Was he carrying a box/bag of tools big enough to contain a laptop?

    •  

      Yes he did say goodbye outside (I paid him cash and he need to give me change). He drove a van, so I'm assuming in the van.

      • +5 votes

        Did you notice him carrying a big bag, say big enough to hold a $2500 custom built laptop rare not available for purchase anymore, from your house to his van?

        It may have been labeled "LOOT"

        • -3 votes

          I said the collectables were rare and not available for purchase anymore not the laptop. Though I suppose you can't buy the laptop since it was custom built and you knew the specs.

  •  

    I've had more people rip me off at the point of sale in retail more than any tradesmen.
    But then Ive worked in trades and find it's more generational.
    Big crews with a lot of migrant workers will have young guys looking for any slight to give them an excuse.
    Look at the sides of the roads now if you want to understand the lack of respect for anything

    There's always those bad apples though , like the guy who steals everyone's old power leeds on site at the end of the day.
    You will notice when you go in his garage ,those two dozen , concrete encrusted leeds ,
    Beware mental issues!!

  • +13 votes

    So you spent 3x your weekly pay on a phone and also 5x weekly pay on a laptop.

    Thats the hardest part to digest in your story

    •  

      Can You Smell What The Rock is Cooking….!!!!

    •  

      I saved a bit each week and it all added up? People buy expensive items all the time that are beyond their means. I mean some people buy $80,000 cars or $1+ million dollars houses. Are you going to ask them how they could afford it? Of course a house is vital and you need a car to get to point A from point B. But you certainly don't need an $80,000 car.

      My husband works too and we have a joint account (I add a little bit in there whenever I can), however I used the money in my account to buy the gifts.

      • +1 vote

        But you certainly don't need an $80,000 car.

        The same can be said for $1500 iPhone x and a $2500 custom made laptop.

        We buy and use iPhone because we want, and not because we need.

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          I know and that was my point. Generally, it's always nice to want nice things but you shouldn't spend more than your means.

  • +1 vote

    Haven't read the post in depth or any comments. Just wanted today say that "tradies" taking deposits and disappearing are becoming more common.
    Depending on the type of trade and cost of work being done, they don't need the specific registrations and unless you have their home address and real name etc, you will most likely never see your money.

    1. Go with a reputable company
    2. Don't pay a deposit, not everyone asks
    3. Use a deposit holding company
  • +1 vote

    is this the aussie version of when the simpsons had their xmas presents stolen?

  • +1 vote

    That’s dog. How could anyone steal Christmas presents. So sad

  • +4 votes

    So it took you more than 8 weeks of pay to buy all this shit, and then you have to add living costs.

    How many weeks did it take you to save up this much?

    TROLOLOLOLOL

  • +3 votes

    what a load of shit why would a tradie give up a racv contract which makes him 5k+ a week for some little items this doesn't add up

    •  

      I don't know, why do people steal? Obviously it's a rhetorial question but also begs the question. If you read other comments in this topic, people have said some tradies steal from other tradies. And some people have had stuff stolen as ell.

  • +2 votes

    I’m a logical person and find it extremely difficult to believe how you can afford such expensive gifts on a $465 p/w income… more to the point if i’m making $465 p/w no one shoukd expect such expensive gifts from me either…

  • -1 vote

    Lay off you guys,
    'OzBogan Yeah' is obviously a beautiful , sensitive person who just signed up to Ozbargain and needs some love at Christmas.
    Obviously her estrogens levels are peaking when the mean old tradey did take all her stuffs.
    Merry X-MAS ' OzBogan Yeah ' hope you get it fixed but I doubt a plumber can help

  • +2 votes

    Your story will be a lot more believable if you get copies of the receipts from the stores and post pictures of them (minus any personal info) until then, it all seems at best like you are a bit loose with he truth.

  • +15 votes

    Mate, I’m truly sorry this has happened to you, but good lord: get your finances in order and your priorities straight!

    You said you work in hospitality making <$500 per week, but have the money to buy/gift: an iPhone X, a $2500 gaming laptop, and numerous jewellery. You seem like a really generous person… but please don’t live outside your means or it will ruin you!

    Christmas is about making other people happy, but if they are the type of people to NOT understand why you didn’t get them an iPhone X because money is tight, then I’d re-consider whether they are the type of person I’d want to get a gift for at all… let alone have them in my life. True family and friends understand that sort of thing.

    At under <$500 per week income… are you renting? If so, why are you paying for repairs and not your landlord? Are you sharing accomodation with anyone? If so, why are you the only one paying for the repairs?

    Do you have Home and Contents or Renters insurance? If so, you should be able to put in a claim for the stolen goods along with a Police report.

    Additionally, you said you cancelled a specialist appointment that you had been waiting over 12 months for… for a sparky? I can understand that you didn’t have power in half your house, but I’m pretty sure an appointment for your health that you have been waiting a year for is far more important than waiting for an electrician!

    • +5 votes

      According to another post of hers she has 3 month old twins.
      But buying $2500 phones for presents!!????

      •  

        My husband works and I have recently gone back to work (part-time for now). Grandparents are babysitting the babies.

    • +1 vote

      I get what you are saying. This year I decided to splurge a bit for the gifts, as usually I spend a lot less than what I spent this year. I re-scheduled the appointment and it's in early January. I have certainly learnt my lesson the hard way and will keep it in mind for the future.

  • +7 votes

    Maybe OP is trying to scam their insurance company by claiming they bought expensive stuff and had it stolen. And this thread was meant to help get the insurance company to believe them.

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