The Good Guys will have same promotion like Harvey Norman
So we now have more locations to buy on 1 Jan 2018.
Update: Price would be $78 for 2, confirmed by supermanUK.
2x Google Home Mini for The Price of 1 - $78 @ The Good Guys
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And just $70.30 at Officeworks with their pricebeat guarantee (if they too don’t drop prices tomorrow).
Best price now. Yes.
Best price ever? Unlikely.Haha true
Is that 2 for $74 (Harvey Norman) or 2 for $54 ($54\One piece is advertised on GGuys and I doubt this will be the case)?
Below only valid if its 2 for $54:
I bought this one not long ago from eBay Good Guys promo for $43.20, this deal: https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/350160
Good guys price match guarantee?Link states "As Advertised price ends 31 December 2017"with the $54 price, so I'm guessing they'll put the price up before offering 2 for 1.
Yupp, think so to, an attempt to match Harvey Norman 2 for $74 deal.
Waiting for a comment from Headphonejack!
Good things come to those who wait :)
you joke, but I saw a thread on reddit a while back where someone modded the mini to add a 3.5mm out so you could use it to drive external speakers instead of the in built one…
Just use a Chromecast Audio.
but no inbuilt Assistant then
@bchliu:
You keep the Google Home but also get a Chromecast /Chromecast Audio and either tell the Google Home to play music to the Chromecast or set the Chromecast as default media output.
The Chromecast Audio is great, you can plug it into any old stereo which probably lacks HDMI but still sounds excellent and then you can tell your Google Home to play music to that stereo.
Should have waited for spam from cheapwun
Does Google just listen or does it store all information?
What is the privacy small print?You're a regular John Kimble, not a John Connor…
There's a dedicated local chip that listens for the activation keyword (Ok Google or Hey Google) - and then passes the request off to the Google Assistant services.
There's not a 24x7 live stream of your house going up to Google.
The recordings of those requests though, they are kept by Google on your 'My Activity' page (same as any other voice search you do from your phone) - and you can play them back on demand if you want.
Until we'll learn in a few years that the NSA was listening to all audio all along. Not so farfetched, knowing that they used smart TVs to spy on people.
Use Wireshark or some other network analysis tool to grab the traffic from the device. There's no constant traffic going on while it's 'sleeping' (i.e unactivted/not playing music/running announcements/etc).
Why do people think that is remotely possible at this stage? Can you imagine the amount of storage they would need? As well as network speed? And the number of people they would need to listen to them? Even if they have the option to listen in on you, unless you are on their watch list, they won’t have the resources to care about you.
Give it another 10+ years before worrying about this.
BC, the NSA isn't stupid enough to use every audio stream and every video stream in every smart TV in the world.
The smart TVs that were being used to spy on people were about targeting specific assets.
If you're the sort of person the NSA thinks they need to pay attention to, you can probably look out the window and notice the van that's been parked on the corner for the last 3 days as well..
@Scyl: think of this as, this gives them the required infrastructures to do so, more easily than before, at the cost of the user. They might not do it now, but they CAN do it in the future
Uh, Storage and (their) network speed is not an issue. Nor is "people to listen to it" - that's not what happens until you draw interest for some reason. Speech recognition is good enough now that you can parse all recorded audio for speech, and then scan the text for relevant keywords.
My point was that you can prove there is no 24x7 full time strwam by just looking at the network traffic.
Check to see if you have an ASIO file via the National Archives if you’re an old timer.
Just keep saying things like "brothers in Syria need our support" and "ISIS will succeed" and see if a strange van parks out the front in the next few days :)
Use Wireshark or some other network analysis tool to grab the traffic from the device.
Facts will only cause further conspiracy theories to be concocted.
If you’re really concerned about this, then you’ll be better off stop using your mobile phone, internet, ATM, and everything that leaves digital footprint.
@Zotech: NSA is too understaffed to listen and send a van to check on you. Who you will get is a van owned by ISIS to come and recruit you instead :p
Well, google like facebook and microsoft, use this info to build a profile for each individual. There aren't people listening, it's just programs and computers scanning for key words. This data has value. You all must see this with your internet browser, on a very basic level. I'm interested in mountain biking and photography, so i get ads targeted to me while I'm browsing. The bots have obviously lumped me into a demographic (age, sex, possibly single) so I used to get ads for dating sites etc.
"Australia has four key facilities that are part of the XKeyscore program, the NSA's controversial computer system that searches and analyses vast amounts of internet data." That was mostly known by 2013, but had been established for much longer; it's just been getting more powerful. I believe google is getting more pervasive. Just having access to your mobile phone, for the majority of people around me, they must have everything. Inside the house gives them access to the more mundane stuff i suppose; maybe patterns? Stuff that you think is insignificant.
Google scares me now. I know that if microsoft or facebook got the opportunity, they'd be right where google is now. The concept of google home, and that people have mostly bought it, is a huge business success that will pay dividends in profit and power for a long time. This is a real marketing coup; it's historical and will be a marker in history. Private enterprise is gaining huge power.
@xenoic: Mobile phone is easy enough; mod it. I use cyanogen mod,and have disabled the processes within each app related to ads or sending data out. It is time consuming, but once the phone is set up, I don't add and remove apps much.
Computer the same. There is usually a way around stuff. It's fairly easy to get rid of cortana from windows 10, for example. Facebook? My friends on facebook actually know me, so all my personal details are false - it's all misinformation:)
I don't get one ad on my phone. I haven't had a selling or marketing type call since I can't remember.
@Scyl:
They/ them. There’s plenty of different entities that store mass information. All traffic. Grab everything. So they have it when they need it. Or they then can query it.
You’re not on the NSA watch list. But suddenly you pop up. They query/ pull all your data they’ve uselessly kept for years.
It’s about having it there for when it’s useful.
Proactive not reactive. All for your “safety”@poohduck: If you're worried, you should watch The Circle with Emma Watson & Tom Hanks. This takes social media to the next level. Gives you something to think about where the future you could end up…….
@Scyl: are you referring to Google? I think running YouTube is enough evidence storage and network speeds are no issue
@Scyl: I think that's a little naive. I work for a call Centre company, and we do software that records and stores every single call that comes in. With hundreds of thousands of calls a day and a one month retention, it takes up a couple hundred gigs of disk space. The audio is automatically trascribed to text and key words are flagged out so that certain calls are highlighted for human attention, which a team of 4-5 quality controllers do full time. It takes only 2-3 engineers to setup and maintain a system like that, so if a government organization with hundreds of millions in funding wanted to spend the money I'm sure they could record everything they wanted to hear.
Legislation, transparency and civil service ineptitude are the only things that can protect our privacy at this stage. If you're relying on "lack of resources" in afraid the tech is already there.
@willhughes: would be very noticeable if it was uploading every word it heard. Apart from, "hey Google", and "ok Google", it would be trivial for GH to quite stealthily monitor for other key phrases. And of course target Sam Dastiari's GH.
@Phoebus:
Yes if it uploaded the audio, jast as useful though to upload the text. If it uploads the text the data usage would be minimal and searchable.@djprima: yea, it does make it easier, but the current Google home and what not will probability be replaced by then. So unless they store everything now, we are fine in the near future.
Unless I missed it, neither of the two programs said they store everything, they have the capability to store anything, but not everything yet.
@SmithInOz: correct me if I'm wrong but except for the activation phrases, "hey Google" and "ok Google", audio is interpreted (converted to text queries) on the Google servers, not in GH device.
That's how they make their money. Which is why they'll soon be giving these things away - just wait
You can delete everything via your home account. It’s not stored anywhere else
So you think…
Yep have a look. It’s just like messages on Facebook and email etc
If it's free… You're the product.
True, although in this case it isn't free, it's two for the price of one. Windows 10 though? God help us
That was true 10 years ago. Today if it's free your training their machine (AI/ML system).
goingDHfast: You're, not your! May be this Home Mini can correct your grammar :p
Maybe not May be
OzBargain is free!
I see that you have posted a total of 33 deals. Good worker.
33 epic deals!
They’re subsidising the side of the platform they need to grow. Us.
We don't need Google to grow us, we are already a community of obesity :p
Okay Google! Hey Google! Hey, Okay!
Goo goo!
I was surprised at the usefulness of the home mini. I have two set up that I use daily.
Google are smart trying to establish a foothold in the marketplace before it's competitors do.
I have the larger Google Home and still struggling to come up with anything that it's actually useful for.
What do you use it for?Ask it the weather
Ask it the time
Ask it the day of a date next week or viceversa
Set alarm when you put something in the oven
Set alarm in the morning to wake you up
Play Spotify music
Ask it about something that you want to know about when you are watching tv
Yeah but those you can do quickly by typing it in your lappy or mobile. I mean this thing is like a want kinda stuff. Don't get me wrong, i am digging the price, i like good bargains but questioning its usefulness.
@tempura: My 4 y.o. son uses it everyday to watch Spongebob on Stan. He justs says" Ok Google, play Spongebob" and Google Home turns on my Sony Android tv, loads Stan and starts playing Spongebob. He also turns on the Christmas Tree lights with his voice(Using a Wemo switch)
My wife is using it everyday for alarms when cooking etc
I use it to turn on an off the bedroom Yeelights and occasionally play my favorite music on youtube by saying "Ok Google, you know what to do"(you can configure your shortcuts in settings)@tempura: same can be said for all personal assistant, human or digital. So yea, it doesn’t do anything that you can’t already do yourself, but the point is, they are doing it instead of you, so yea pretty much a want kinda stuff. Still useful though.
@tempura: sorta agree. It’s more of a novelty than a necessity. I’d find it a chore to have to ask and listen to get my information rather than open up an app on my phone and get it that way. I guess it has uses like switching on electronics but for me still falls in the novelty category.
we use ours to open/shut garage door, turn air-con on/off, turn tv on/off and play music/videos.
In the morning as I walk downstairs I say "hey google play music" and the tv/amp/Spotify all turn on automatically. super easy. In the night when we go to bed I say "turn everything off" and it runs a IFTT applet.
Other things like timers/random questions. The broadcast feature is great to get a message to the wife on the other side of house.
I agree it's certainly not essential but it's nice.
Next on my list is controlling house lights but I need to research that a bit.
You're forgetting the key ozbargain capability
"Hey Google, what's 167 american dollars in australian dollars?"
Adding to that I use it to add items to my shopping list.
Before I bought it I had no idea what I'd use it for and had a similar mentality to you on it. Now that I have it I use it all the time.
It's significantly faster to say "hey google, play travellers on Netflix" than to get out your phone, open the app, cast to chromecast, find the show and press play. Or find the remote, open the Netflix app on the TV and select my profile and then find the show.
Similar for Ryan's toys on YouTube.
Can't find a remote? Say "hey google, turn on the TV", In bed reading a book, time to go to sleep.. Save getting back out of bed "hey google, turn off bedroom light". Hear a weird noise middle of the night? "hey google, turn on all lights". Don't have your phone and want to know the time? "hey google, what's the time".. Etc.
@Name: i agree, but not for all cases, for TV-based stuff definitely,but for home automation not really.
faster for me to hit the button i have for the xiaomi home automation to turn on my Yeelights, than to wait three or five seconds or even longer for the voice command to register thru Google assistant. but then if i have those hands ready to get dressed in the morning for work, would be faster to just say it thru google assistant while i get on with my day.
pros and cons, but until it's as fast as buttons / phone interactions for every task, bit iffy for me. i will probably buy two anyway, cos a bargain is a bargain right
@gavincato:
Have you researched the security bits on automating your garage door via Google Home? Sounds high risk to me.@gavincato:
Tried to send you a message about 'broadcast feature' but you "don't accept new conversations" :0Can you tell us a bit more about this, never heard of it !
Thanks.
@Buyer10987: When asked to broadcast it will send your message to every connected google speaker. Useful I suppose if you have a large house and want to send a message and don't want to wander the house looking for someone. I think they'll add the ability to target speakers by name soon.
Calendar, reminders, shopping list, receives, avant- souls vide Control, lights Control, alarms, traffic, weather, news, music, casting music/movies to tv etc, asking what a animal sounds like (kids love that part)
Why Op stated deal starts tomorrow 1 Jan but the link states ends 31 December (today)? So do I go GG today or tomorrow?
The $54 price ends today. The 2 for 1 deal starts tomorrow.
Ive got a couple of these and they're pretty cool. We use it all the time in the kitchen for music.
I'm a bit apprehensive to buy more though as i'm thinking of waiting for the Amazon Echo. It seems like it could be a better product for what i use it for.
You can use both one for casting and one for Sony Android tv Control etc
How can this turn off lights?
Ah :) thats too much.
Thanks for ur reply mate. Happy new year in advance
Happy new year to you too
Not necessarily! You can replace your normal bulbs with wifi ones like Yeelights ;)
Yeelight. Wifi and Yeelight app. Done
No wiring required as stated by tempura. Google home will easily control Philips Hue, LIFX, TP Link and Osram Lightify. Basically just install your globes and sync (some require hubs). You can also use smart switches for PowerPoints such asBelkin Wemo and TP Link.
So no wiring or tradies required!I stand corrected.
You don't need to wire your whole home.. Thats the old style or home automation. These days there's literally hundreds of Companies making plug and play devices to turn regular lights and switches into a smart connection using your home WiFi. It's really. Affordable and you can start with the always reliable Xiaomi products.
That's a great deal. I think this is the lowest price you will ever find the Google Home Mini. Thanks for the find