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[QLD] Akai Split System $250 @ Bunnings Warehouse (Smithfield Cairns)
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Its not made by Akai per se. The akai name is now farmed out to pretty much any china made crap Tv/Fridge/washing machine/AC etc and whoever owns the akai name now gets paid for it.
Soooo this is probably a crap AC made by some china brand who are ashamed to put their own brand name on it.
Considering that you need to pay $500 just for installation, i would rather buy a Fujitsu/Mitsubishi/Panasonic for $750 and then spend $500 for installation and i would likely get 10 years out of it rather than pay $250 +$500 for this crap and rinse and repeat in a couple of years when it dies.
you need to pay $500 just for installation
Meh.
https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/1-8CFM-1-Stage-Refrigerant-Vacuu…
Is it good?
I'say get a 2 stage and still need a gauge. First thing one needs to do on them pumps is to dispose the oil and fill with good fridgie oil.
And a crappy R410a has a blend of gases, a small leak means the useful leaves first turning your system into a dog.@conant:
No idea, just a random example.I would not count on these no-name aircons to come with clear instructions, but on the other hand its a suitable subject for your first install. Not much to lose :-)
You likely need other new tools too but pump is the main one.
Probably not a job for someone who has never flared a pipe before :)@payless69:
thanks.As good as diy is, most warranty claims require proof of qualified install with licence number.
@manic: buy them all and do your own apprenticeship. Get a rusty old ute and advertise as Mr Cash affordable AC supply and install.
@manic: Yep. Ticking this off my DIY achievements list in a couple of months. Bought everything required (2-Stage Vac Pump, Manifold Gauges, Torque Spanners, Pipe Flarer) which wasn't cheap however still approx. $150 less than paying for a 'pro' install. I have 3 or 4 (or maybe even more) to install moving forward so if/when I get the first installed then the others will be 100% free. If it all turns to crap and I fail miserably (unlikeky) then 'meh', not a deal-breaker so absolutely worth the risk IMO.
most warranty claims require proof of qualified install with licence number.
Not quite.
Warranty cards say this, but in reality people are more reasonable.
I claimed on a faulty gas cooktop, no problem.Of course you can't expect a warranty to cover a botched diy job.
An aircon is not as easy as a cooker, but a $250 one is a good place to start if you are confident with the tools and can follow instructions.
I'm sure there are some youtube videos as well :-)Hope so. I guess I've never tried to do it without a proper installer. But I've had to claim twice on two separate air conditioners (both Samsung, wouldn't recommend!) and both times said if I don't provide proof of installer they won't honour warranty. Needed to scan it in and attach it to the claim on the website.
@SteveAndBelle: get some compressor oil from a fridgie and before assembling the flare inspect with strong magnifiers then soak both ends with oil. first hand tigthen while moving pipes till you get that seat feel Tighten like a cylinder head, with skill and feel.
A claw foot adaptor may help connect with your automotive torque wrench. Run pump for 30 min. turn off 10 min and watch gague any doubt another 30 min then watch gauge after 30 min.
Most important is that moisture is your greatest enemy. If pipes were left uncapped needless to say sand, copper burrs etc. If any doubt keep the pump on. A dead pump is still cheaper than a stuffed sustem!@payless69: Yeah cheers Payless. I got some decent quality Compressor Oil for the Vacuum Pump as there was a real risk of it arriving dry but luckily it was filled perfectly so I've got plenty to play with :) Thanks for the extra tips. I have been researching this for a while now and have seen a few little tricks done by some. As I said though… if I royally screw it up then I'm not too fussed as I enjoy learning as I go so I'll just put it down to experience. No biggie. Thanks again!
It's air conditioning. Get something reputable or don't bother at all. Otherwise, it's a headache. Daikin, Fujitsu, Mitsubishi or Panasonic. Worth it.
Fujitsu used to be the king. We have a stone age model made in Japan with wired remote. Been pumped down twice and installed 3 times, still chunks on fine. Now seasoned fridgies tell me they are now a below average brand in reliabillity.
@payless69: There you go. I didn't know that. I've just had 3 new units installed in my investment properties and the air-con guy told me to go Daikin.
na, u only need to pay the $500 once.
the second time u could just do it urself, no more drilling/pipeline/wiring, u may need a new frame/bracket but its easy.In Germany they sell split system the user can install. They come with a very special gas connector that just pushes together.
Good price … found it on eBay for $400. No idea of the quality of it though … and then you'd have installation costs on top of that. Anyone know the average installation cost for a split system these days?
$400-$450 for this size.
roughly $500 + electrician if they need to run a dedicated power feed.
whats the cost of the dedicated power feed ? i thought the $500 is included…
You may get someone to include but depends who you go to probably $100-200, sorry don't have much to do with install side of air conditioning. Unfortunately at this time of year you probably aren't going to get many people doing cheap installs.
Electrician can quote as low as $450 but a proper refrigeration mechanic will be $550 to over $600
Different sizes for different applications…
so you are saying the kw rating on portable units are different to these units?
No I'm not saying portable kw ratings are different. I'm suggesting most people wouldn't want a 75inch television in their bedroom, same goes for air conditioners. Bigger isn't always better.
Also portables are less effective and noisy.
Portable units are much less efficient because the hot part is inside the room you're trying to cool, radiating heat.
On my old portable one the only hotness was going out an exhaust tube connected via adaptor to my bedroom window
Yes, but the bit that generates the heat that gets pumped out the tube out the window is still inside the machine.
Split aircon units need much less kw, I have 2.4w in a couple of rooms and if the rooms are smaller than 5x5m and not high ceilings it'll cool it icy cold for you (pending how bad your insulation is).
@Lionheart: it's not just the hot exhaust tube that cause inefficiency, the main thing is aerodynamic of the portable unit where it use room air for heat exchange and pump this hot air outside, doing so create vacuum inside the room as well so hot air outside will constantly be drawn inside the room. Proper split system separates the compressor completely, draw air from the room to the compressor, cool it and release back to the room so the cycle has no negative pressure difference (only slightly negative due to the air being cooled contract but not much)
Your hot compressor isn’t on the inside of your hot room in a split system :)
Thats simply wrong.
I have a 2.5kw Fujitsu and its quite powerful.
I wouldn't suggest it for multiple rooms, but then 7kw will waste an insane amount of electricity to achieve that so why bother…
We have one of these in one of the kids rooms.
It was there when we bought our house last year.
For a tiny room it does the job fine.
What I actually like about it is that the temp shows on the unit.
When cooling or heating it shows the temp you set it to but when on fan it shows the rooms temp.Fixed speed…next air conditioner I get will be an inverter model.
Fixed speed is either top speed loud or off. I've got one here…very annoying when trying to watch TV and having to keep changing the volume so the TV is audible.
Inverter models can be set to a very low setting to quietly keep the room cool and stay on for hours. They'll ramp up in speed and volume if the room is gaining more heat than the air conditioner is removing.
the price isnt right unless you r paying by cash.
its 250.01I see you've played knifey-spoony before
What's the cooling star rating? If 4 star or over you can claim the new $300 QLD government energy efficiency rebate.
Therefore this costs minus $50!
https://www.qld.gov.au/community/cost-of-living-support/abou…
As per the picture its 2.5 star rating.
The star rating is too low which is probably why it’s being run out
I wish they'd hurry up and open it. I'll be applying about 10 minutes after it does I suspect. And thousands of others too, probably.
Yea. I've got my split system installed and ready to claim
Open it?
Applications for the rebate are not yet open. Although purchases from 1st January are eligible
How much is the installation of these?
Sorry guys, just saw the first post…
good luck finding a fridgie who even installs such an inneficient product. Think it is also stone age r410a (now obsolete) If you hate noise get a Panasonic else a Kelvinator is a reliable OZ brand and you get latest technology. Never buy a reverse cycle unless you have very cold winters and use heating a lot!
Why do you think the fridgie cares?
$400 cash in hand with a bit for the FOB sparkie is a pretty good hourly rate.Also it's pretty hard to buy a split system that isn't reverse cycle…
exactly that is what fridgies do: Akai cash only, no warranty! You find the unit on gumtree later on.
Nowadays most good brands are sold cooling only in regions like Cairns
You think anyone cares what they install you if you pay them to do it?
R410a is still used in plenty of air conditioners.
Majority of air conditioners are reverse cycle because the price is neglible, all they do is remove the coil that energises the valve in a cooling only model.Perhaps in Melbourne reverse cycle is justified. Forget it in Cairns. This is corosion country. In theory just about anything can be turned into a refrigerant. Amonia was once popular, you would detect a leak quickly. Freon had its haydays and much of the commercial world is steering towards hydrocarbons. The corrupt Queensland government dictated that they would never allow butane fridges. Guess what? Most kitchen fridges run on butane now. Rednecks in the US make jokes about how they refilled their tractor A/C with propane are actually colder than the original r134a.
For that price I would actually buy one of these, but alas I have never seen a bunnings in WA that sell air cons.
The Armadale store sells air conditioners. I bought a 7kW split system MHI air conditioner off them a couple of years ago.
Ah yes, that one is quite large :)
I have a very similar one, may be the previous model. They only need a 10A socket and are fine for a small room. I was impressed as it was only the same price. Not sure if you can install
To install you need to be able to flare your copper pipes, connect them well and also evacuate the system (flaring kit, tubing kit, vacuum pump- all those will cost around $500) and if you use more than 8m of tubing you should add some R410A refrigerant, which is rather hard to get hold of if you are not a licensed installer- and requires a gauge set (and skill/care/experience). Without it, you may lose your gas and end up really in the poo (it is expensive)
The shorter the tubing the more efficient your install will be, but if very short (<3m) you should probably remove some refrigerant.
Not a bad thing as flaring takes care as does the evacuation and addition of gas (though many don't even when the pipes are 10m long) but you only decide on this once reading the installation manual for the particular system,
Does anyone know if this price is nationwide? Or has seen it at their local store for the same price?
specials can vary 70% between the 2 Cairns stores alone. Sorry this unit will not go onboart the jetstar 7kg included lugguage.
You're asking for trouble if you're installing one of this for yourself. For rental no problem I can see the appeal
nothing for an office only person needing safety training on a stapler. Here we talk about pressurised stuff that can give frostbyte and electricity that can fry you
I'd get one or two of these units at that price, but only as I'm a spark and install AC units all the time…
I believe this unit requires power feed to the indoor unit, not outdoor unit like most installs we do (also recently did a 7kw kelvinator that required power to the indoor unit). We got asked to install one of these units after running the power and pair coil thinking we'd be supplied a decent brand unit, ended up having to supply a decent brand unit as running a power feed to the indoor unit was gonna cause too much damage..
You might get someone to do a back to back install for 400ish for the whole lot but to run a new feed and do anything but a back to back, could be a full days work, sometimes mroe, I'd not even consider it for 600 + materials, maybe for a mate in the 400-500 mark plus materials, thats for 8 hours labor.
At that stage, the size of the unit doesn't really affect the cost of the install, 2.5mm2 cable will cover most units we're asked to install, only diff then is the pair coil size which isn't a major cost factor… pipes still need to be flared, isolator still needs to be installed, both units still need to be mounted/fixed and same testing procedure, same duct run etc…Anyone have any luck getting a price match at a store in a diff state? I'd like to get one in TAS if they're known to price match…?
Pretty sure its hit or miss with price matching bunnings to bunnings. Worst they can say is 'no'.
Can electricians legally install a/c's? I thought one had to be a refrigeration tradie, cause they're the only ones that can handle gas, no?
Answer from one of the 'managers' was No, won't price match any specials between any stores as completely store independent.
o Accidental Air Conditioner Compressor Explosion - it can happen but if you think risking your life for 500+ is worth it go ahead , then you've got the power side of things where things can go pear shaped if you dont know what your doing -
My hubby’s gone to our local Bunnings to see if they have any at this price. Does anyone know if they will price match
they never do this is to dump old stock to free up shelf space. Wesfarmers share price will nosedive by a formula of minus google??
Went to local Bunnings in Tasmania this morning, no luck. They had heaps in stock. Electrical department manager said it’s store specific and can’t be matched, generally due to them having only a few in stock, allowing them to be cleared at that price.
too many know it all's with VERY misleading advice on this, typical though.
ha ha it is cold were you came from, you got perhaps a dozen engineering degrees but can't make tea??
Just installed a Mitsubishi elec ducted unit myself in Nov. Had an electrician friend and ac relative sign it off. Also added the thermostat controller that Mitsubishi Australia hasn't even heard of I imported from America to connect an ecobee3. I've done much harder things than some basic wiring basic plumbing and ducting. Australia has honestly been dumbed down with regulation.
I don't have a degree I had my son at 21 so. Couldn't finish. I just turned 40. luckily I did well in real estate and I've just retired. Well semi I'll have to get a part time job sometime in the future I guess. A wall hung aircon honestly my mum could install one.
This must be a store specific deal because it's showing as $500 on the web site. And i have my store location set as the Rockhampton, QLD store https://www.bunnings.com.au/akai-9000btu-hr-fixed-speed-spli…
By the way i never even knew that Akai makes air conditioners.