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Clearing out some Celeron NUC. Brand new product in box.
NOTE does NOT include:
DDR3L-1600 1.35v So-Dimm Ram
2.5" SATA HDD/SSD
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Price is $125, reduced if you use eBay Code PICK5
Intel NUC BOXNUC5CPYH Mini PC Barebone with Intel Celeron N3050 $118.75 (Free Postage) from IT Clearance Company (eBay)
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How about 4K? I have a 2nd gen NUC that is getting a bit unreliable, crashing/freezing, and want to make sure I can keep this one for another 5+ years. At present I can play 1080p to 2 users no dramas but when I try 4K it dies.
Also, what's happening with x265 and getting them supported by gfx cards so my CPU can take a break?
@cymon
"How about 4K? have a 2nd gen NUC that is getting a bit unreliable, crashing/freezing, and want to make sure I can keep this one for another 5+ years. At present I can play 1080p to 2 users no dramas but when I try 4K it dies.Also, what's happening with x265 and getting them supported by gfx cards so my CPU can take a break?"
Not really. This is a base level Intel NUC. It has integrated graphics and is more suited to an office environment, web surfing and email etc. Ideal for anyone not wanting anything too technical or intensive including gaming. This is a very small footprint pc that runs cools and quiet and can be mounted out of site using a VESA mount behind a TV or pc monitor (if it has provision for a VESA mounting plate). They consume little power, can be left on or power up and down reasonably quickly.
There are a combination of components required to get true 4K. I have a current top of the line Intel NUC7i7BNH with 32GB RAM and a couple of TBs in storage (for scratch space). It works well as a media server including 4K media, however is not cutting edge beyond that, i.e. no 4K HDR. I use mine for video and audio editing and will probably update to the next gen toward the end of this year. No matter when you buy these things, there will always be something better released as technology changes fast in this arena.
Over the next quarter Intel will be releasing more powerful NUC's with 8th Generation i7 CPUs that may or will possibly handle what you are looking for. Go to the Intel website and search for the "Intel ARK" software tool. There are editions for Windows PC, Apple iOS and Android (via links to respective apps stores). It runs a complete database which is update-able and will provide full specs of any Intel product including CPUs, NUCs etc. as they are released.
Nope wont handle 4k
Get an Android TV box if you want to playback 4K content. To do it on a computer is quite expensive as you need an 8th generation CPU for the native decoding otherwise it's very system intensive.
Video of mine playing back some 4K movies (Streamed from a Windows file share over gigabit LAN)
Because this box has native hardware decoding it plays back smoother than my PC and seeks faster too (My PC is a 6700K with a GTX 1080)
A couple of reviews of this NUC with OpeneELEC:
http://nucblog.net/2015/07/braswell-nuc-review-nuc5cpyh-htpc…
http://nucblog.net/2015/08/hevc-decoding-in-linux-for-braswe…Basically it looks like it can do 4K with h.264 and 1080p with h.265, but with 4k and h.265 some frame drops are observed.
These reviews were done in 2015 and the linux support for h.265 was brand new, perhaps the driver support has improved since then. On the other hand, if you want to keep it for five years, the newer generation is probably a better bet.
So will a raspberry pi 2, for half the price.
This machine supports 8gig of RAM.
Yeah, I was replying to the comment about flawless network streaming at 1080p. Which an rpi2 can do too.
@idonotknowwhy: No worries, I'd prefer a device that can do multiple tasks, including function as a general PC. I'm hoping one of those $100 Android TV boxes with 2-4GB of RAM can have their firmware flashed with, say, debian to enable web browsing and stuff while attached to a 40" TV.
You're not wrong but this can run quite a few tasks at the same time
Hi where can I find a cheap China box for 1/3 the price? Do you mind to send me the link?
https://forum.libreelec.tv/thread/9759-choosing-a-s905-s905x…
I would grab a 912 box as its the fastest, 905 boxes are very popular as they had kodi/LibreELEC support before 912.
For example https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/2018-2-8GB-Amlogic-S912-Octa-Cor…
lots of the china junk stores sell these boxes as well and often have deals going.
Hmm I thought U meant an Intel box.
Can't compare these boxes to Intel as not apple to Apple.@bestbarginever: They were talking about the functionality of streaming HD video over a network 'flawlessly'. A cheap Chinese box will do that just as well. Possibly better.
Yes, but I've had force close issues with a lot of those cheap android boxes. Unless you're willing to flash them with OpenELEC/LibreELEC I would stay clear of them
I have orange pi (cheap RPI analogue) for $15. It only needs 1gb SD card and is running Kodi 1080p movies from Synology without any issues at all.
Will probably struggle at 4k, but I don't need it.
A cheap China box will do flawless 4K HDR streaming over the network which this NUC cannot.
Video of mine playing back some 4K movies (Streamed from a Windows file share over gigabit LAN)
Because this box has native hardware decoding it plays back smoother than my PC and seeks faster too (My PC is a 6700K with a GTX 1080)
cheap china box wont take a 2.5" drive or plug in ram ….
Mine has 2 USB ports so you can connect 2x 2.5" drives to it. Not sure what you need the extra RAM for but mine has 3GB DDR4 which is great by Android standards. You can install Servers Ultimate to run an SMB server off it if you want to access the drives from your PC.
You wouldn't happen to know one of the better "cheap chinese" jobs for this? What's out there?
Why not get an Dell Optiplex 9010 which is only $13.30 more but you get some RAM, a HDD, Windows 10 and a half-capable CPU. As said above if you're using it for network, something like a Mi Box is a cheaper alternative.
Size matters.
Very few people would want something fat that takes up more space than it needs to, like how much space my ex used to take up.
Size matters.
That's why bigger is better ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
This Celeron NUC is super quiet too.
These Optiplex units are basically silent too, and will their performance will blow away a Celeron NUC. So much better value too.
Get a USFF model is you want something more compact. Not NUC size, but still very compact.
Bigger is better, like cobalt's ex?
@Mitch889: Interesting to hear that they are quiet. That's what was keeping me away, as I assumed they had noisy Dell fans in them.
I have had an Optiplex in my living room for years (previously a USFF 790, currently an SFF 9010 Core i5) and you can’t hear it.
These are machines that are deployed en masse across offices everywhere, they have to be quiet.
The optiplex is actually pretty small and doesn't take up much space at all.
I'm really liking mine at atm
It uses substantially more power too.
True, a waste of resources. Just like how everyone eventually realises my ex is also!
Your ex is an optipl-EX!
The same reason not everyone needs/wants to drive a medium/large vehicle.
I am pretty sure Dell Optoplex consumes more power than the NUC. You can just leave the NUC always ON. It consumes around 5-12W. And it is lot smaller than the Dell OP.
What's the power usage on an Optiplex? 60W?
Should be around 50-60W
@dealspider: My advice to anyone purchasing this would be to check your power bill before and after.
I have a NUC and saved about $5/month by retiring an old desktop PC - that said, desktop PCs use less power than 10 years ago.
I replaced my N2820 NUC with an OptiPlex 9010. The OptiPlex is almost as silent and I only had to add a Wireless AC adapter and a Bluetooth adapter to get everything I needed out of it. Plenty of USB ports and lots of CPU grunt. Using a Display Port to HDMI cable to my receiver and works flawlessly with audio. No sleep issues or anything and the width of the chassis perfectly occupies one of the slots in my entertainment cabinet. It actually looks better than the NUC did.
I have the i5-3570 and 8GB of RAM in my OptiPlex.
There's no doubt that the OptiPlex is a very capable, affordable machine, although it is nowhere near as efficient and is quadruple the size of a NUC.
heh, should I be sad that everyone is using their refurbished Optiplex as an secondary pc or media player while I'm using mine as my main PC? :'(
No just shows the versatility of it.
That's actually a pretty good deal. I might get this one instead. Thanks. It's barely going to be turned on unless I stream Steam games to it anyway, so having a processor that uses more power isn't a problem.
They're practically giving away those Steam Links. Takes up almost no space and work well.
Yeah. $40 at EB or something. I still need it to for things like browsing, downloading, etc.
@flaminglemon: Fair enough.
Best recent deal at EBGameswas $29 for the Steam Link including a $20 Steam credit!
I got one of these recently for $140 and think it is very good, should you require a full operating system.
In my case, it is a seed box, media server, network backup device and main storage for my photos (plus running the google photo uploader, of course).It can be upgraded to 8G Ram, and SSD. So can make it a beast.
Is it configurable like a NAS server?Not sure what you mean, but it can have multiple external disks attached and run any windows software, so I am going with 'yes'.
In regards to network backup and storage, how do you manage power loss? Is it connected to a UPS?
No UPS.
If there is a power loss during a disk write, then I risk file corruption.
It isn't my only back up.
Will it run win 10 pro easily?
With the right components, it will run any operating system easily.
Im jist planning on using win 10 pro and kodi. Any issues?
Are you using pro just to run it as an HTPC?
Just use libreelec. If you need to run other things use Xubuntu or Mint MATE.
With the right components, it will run any operating system easily.
Yeah? OS/2? Amiga OS? OpenVMS? Cray Operating System? IRIX? SunOS?
Um. No. Silly statement to make.
Um. No. Silly statement to make.
I obviously meant any modern consumer OS, but typical that you cherry-picked my comment again.
Would you like me to supply a list of modern consumer operating systems that this does not run on.
You mean modern MAINSTREAM PC operating system. Even then, MacOS won't officially run on this.
You mean modern MAINSTREAM PC operating system. Even then, MacOS won't officially run on this.
You and I both know what I meant, but yet here we are.
Do everyone a favour and don't bother commenting in the future.
Stop blaming others for the lack of your precision when stating your point. If you want to make a point, make that point clearly. Don't get aggressive with others for pointing out that what you said isn't correct, and don't assume that everyone is going to interpret things as you do. Take a bit of responsibility for what comes from your keyboard.
To a lot of people who don't know computers that well and don't work with them your statement was incredibly misleading. What you meant to say was this should run Windows 7, 8, 10, possibly other flavours of Windows and most newer flavours of Linux (and perhaps other Unix variants). You didn't mean MacOS. Note also that a lot of new computers won't run 7 or 8 anymore. You could argue those aren't modern I suppose but I wouldn't agree given Win 7 had the greater marketshare a couple of years ago.
…And now you're speaking on behalf of everyone…when were you elected? Or would you like to be our fearless dictator?
Do yourself a favour and don't waste your time telling me what I should do. I'd be more likely to follow the instructions I got from a magic 8 ball. I won't speak on behalf of everyone though.
I didn't realize OzBargain recruited someone to police the comments in every deal.
Do yourself a favour and don't waste your time telling me what I should do.
Someone needs to, I take it you're one of those people that has done their own thing their whole life and no one can tell them otherwise.
I wish your friends and family all the best, if they're still around.
Do you even understand the irony of someone complaining about "someone to police the comments in every deal" after telling that someone to "Do everyone a favour and don't bother commenting in the future."?
And then bringing my friends and family into it? Dude, get yourself some help.
Are you still going?
Stop trying to teach people lessons online and step outside for a change, it might do you some good.
It'll run the OS but anything more than basic tasks will stress it pretty quickly, these would be slower than those $300 white/red/blue Dell laptops that are always posted here.
My brother has tried to update his NUC and my parents NUC to Win10 twice and both times formatted back to Win7. Yes it looks nicer but there are always driver issues, especially with sound. E.g. Kodi, Spotify and Chrome all fighting over audio rights. Also HDMI issues but I suspect that is an AV receiver issue, however the issue goes away with Win7.
That is more an issue with the Windows upgrade process rather than the Intel NUC hardware itself. A clean install of Windows 10 would be preferable. I have witness too many of these Windows 7 to Windows 10 upgrades going south or being cluttered with issues.
Could be, I'm not sure what method he used.
I attempted to upgrade the Win8 install on the disk I salvaged from an old PC. It hung during install with no error message, as there was not enough disk space free. I think because there are so many updates to download as part of the process.
What a disgrace that MS can't check if there is enough disk available in 2018!
I found a support message recommending 30Gb free space, and it went fine after that.
It isn't a very high powered CPU, so it runs pretty slowly. I wouldn't use it for productivity tasks or a main machine.
But it is fine to use for a bit of web browsing or to run simple apps.Yes is the simple answer. Pair with an SSD and 4G RAM and they work fine for normal day/day or small office use. An SSD is the best thing you can do for any PC/laptop in my view.
I've installed heaps of these and faster NUCs into small Business and all have been totally reliable. Just pick the model depending upon use.
This being dual core would really suit media viewing or basic office/web tasks (not MYOB unless cloud based)
I have an I5 NUC with 16gb RAM, 256gb ssd and runs Win 10 Pro like butter :) I'm sure Celeron would do the same
Has anyone tried using one of these as a NAS/File/Media Server?
My plan is to get one of these (NUC) and couple it with an external USB HDD rack (something like this)
I use my NUC with a USB HDD and have no issues sharing it over the network or playing more that one video at a time (2nd gen NUC so only USB2 speeds). Just need to combat Windows file sharing settings which is the main reason people just get an actual NAS.
Shouldn't have any issues running FreeNAS and hanging an enclosure like that off it
I tried freeNAS sometimes back. It didn't really work for me for couple of reasons:
* It did not support NTFS (I already have disks full of data)
* It did not support Disk Pools (I don't want RAID but would like to make a drive pool)
* I did not like the ZFS which makes it so difficult to restore if something goes wrong.So I went back to trusty-old-annoying-windows. I used a third-party software called "DrivePool" by StableBit. It lets you add any number of disks (in different sizes) and create one (or many) pools. It also lets you do "folder duplication"
if you want small, get intel pc stick II (not ver.1)
if size doesn't matter then get dell optiplex
The PC sticks have limited memory, and low power (the ver 1 I had struggled with higher draw USB devices, maybe v2 is better) and few ports.
The Dell uses substantially more power, to the tune of more than $100 worth a year if in use all the time.For me, this device was the right trade off.
I am almost tempted by this. It has SPDIF out on the rear through the 3.5mm headphone jack which is really appealing to me.
I have three NUCs at home and none have a 3.5 MM jack at the back, and i haven't been able to confirm SPDIF out through the front 3.5 MM jack - can you show me where you found that this has a 3.5 MM jack that support digital audio? TIA!
EDIT - Found it;
https://www.intel.com.au/content/www/au/en/products/boards-k…
Audio (back channel + front channel) 7.1 digital (HDMI); L+R+mic (F); L+R+TOSLINK (R)what does that do ? connect to receiver ?
Allows you to send digital audio to a receiver not down the HDMI. Generally for older devices but still is very relevant.
Yes, for example i have Logitech Z5500 speaker set i would like to use
That is the one :)
The Dual Core Celery.. no thanks
Pair it with some RAMmus and you have yourself a tasty bargain. ;)
I've got one of these with LibreElec installed.
Small, quiet and powerful enough for any media I throw at it.
Perfect HTPC.
Yep, I've got an older generation one (DN2820) and have no issues with playback, the UI isn't as smooth as it could be but that's not a huge issue.
edit: googled LibreElec
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This thing with some ram and Kodi/Libreelec running off a USB will run 1080P content over the network flawlessly.
Saying that a cheap china box will do the "same" for 1/3 the price.