expired [NSW] AmEx - Tap On/Off with Your AmEx at Sydney Ferries/Light Rail, Get 50% Back, up to $10

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Save offer to your eligible Card and pay your fare by tapping your Card on Opal reader, when you travel on Sydney Ferries F1-F8 or Sydney Light Rail route L1, and get 50% credit, up to $10. Limited to the first 20,000 Cards to save. Exclusions apply.

More details on using your Amex to travel: https://www.americanexpress.com/au/content/credit-cards/mana...

Note: Your Card can only be used to pay for one fare per trip, and only Adult Opal single trip fares are eligible for payment using your Card. Any Opal benefits (such as travel caps or off-peak fares) are not applicable for payments made with your Card.

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Comments

  • +2 votes

    That's cool.

    • +5 votes

      Yeah, how to get people off cash and onto cards. Slowly step by step so they don't notice.

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        You say it like its a bad thing… cash assets are just a number in a bank account. Paper/metal money served its time for banks of the day that held actual cash on premisses

  • +4 votes

    If you're not sure which ferry stops are included as part of this deal, I found this Sydney Ferries Network map quite helpful.

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    When do the deals for AMEX cards usually roll around?

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    Is this not available in all cards? My esstenital doesn’t seem to be eligible..

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      Ignore that just need to follow the link 😊

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        Link in op only explains how amex works as an opal replacement.

        Won't give you the 50% discount unless you sign up/activate

        Need the ninja.

        Edit. Nevermind. Picture link does goes to the subscribe page

  • +1 vote

    You have to hand over your Credit card if transit officer check, in front of all other passengers? That doesn't sound safe at all !!

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      I have yet to see a transit officer on the ferries or light rails

    • +8 votes

      Light Rail AO (Authorised Officer) here, don't worry it's illegal for us to scan your credit card for information (we can scan Opal card because they are property of TfNSW - credit cards aren't), we can ask you to tap on/off at a pole as evidence of your initial payment though.

      Edit: misspelling

      • +1 vote

        Except when you tap on or off at a reader, it doesn't specify whether you had already done so.

        It just says 'Payment Card OK'.
        And if you tap off at the same reader within 15 minutes, it's reversed (though the display will still say 'Payment Card OK')

        • +1 vote

          Therein lies the problem. They may change the pole feedback in the future. At the moment they are prioritising convenience over compliance which I personally think is a good option. Public transport already runs at such a loss, might as well make it a decent public service for our taxes.

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        I thought there weren't any light rail officers since a few years ago? Or was that something else?

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          I was a conductor for 5 years before the Opal card was integrated and yeah there used to be a conductor on each train, now we just have a few roving AOs (ticketing enforcement) and a few roving customer service officers. I preferred the personal feel of a conductor on each tram helping the old ladies/tourists but you know the Opal card kind of made our ticket selling job redundant.

      • +3 votes

        Doesn't this open up a box of worms for fare evasion, people can say that they tapped on using their credit card on a train - is a transit officer really going to ask them to get off the train and tap off at a random station just to show that they've tapped on? Especially once credit cards become more popular in replacing opal cards.

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        Couldn't someone just run, or even walk away at that point?

    • +11 votes

      How is it any different to handing your card over to pay for something at a store or restaurant?

      I can't see how it is unsafe.

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    Wish they worked on Sydney buses.

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    nice one

  • +2 votes

    But then you cannot accrue or use opal travel reward…

  • +5 votes

    As much as I like the idea, I don't know if Opal card readers are reliable enough to deal with credit cards, let alone Opal cards.

    I get faulty machines and obscure errors all the time. For anxious, time-rich and cash poor people visiting train platforms in regional areas, they should have a few machines that ask "Are you sure you want to tap off/re-tap-on/whatever?", or give you time to read warnings, or maybe even tap-off only machines.

    • +3 votes

      If you think Opal is bad, come check out the atrocity that is Myki down in Vic…

      • +3 votes

        What's wrong with Myki? I was in Melb last year for a week or so and found it fine in regards to scan success rate.

        • +5 votes

          Complaining about myki is a sport in Vic. Only problem is that you can't buy a single ticket as a tourist or an occasional user

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          if you only used the VIX scan units (on the E class trams) then you might have been fine. but the older scan units at train stations and on old trams are terrible. they take ages to scan which can be a real hassle in morning/evening peaks.

          the signal is also very weak so they wont scan through wallets (never had this kind of problem with octopus, oyster or even humble adelaide metrocard).

        • +2 votes

          @gimme: And you have to pay for the card.

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      I had plenty of issues when it launched. But I’ve not had an issue in over a year now.

    • +2 votes

      The vast majority of the errors are benign. Many are double taps which happens when the card goes in and out of range within a short period. The system detects that and ignores the double tap. Sometimes it hasn't registered due to card or reader issues so just try again, or another reader. The readers on the wide channels are particularly slow and should be avoided.

      I see people rub the card around the reader. The motion is unnecessary, it's not like swiping cards, it's contactless. Others try to hold it at some exact distance above the surface. That sort of behaviour leads to double taps. Just slap the card on the surface and hold it there until it registers.

  • +3 votes

    Nice for occasional ferry and tram users where the opal reward doesn't matter.
    Personally, I wish that they'd find a way to tap on with Woolworths egift cards.

  • +3 votes

    NOTE This isnt for anyone who travels on a concession fare.

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    So we can finally use Apple Pay on Opal machine?

    • +1 vote

      YES, if they want to, it's no technical barrier. It could work on any NFC enable device ( actually not any of them).

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        it does work with nfc enabled devices, i've seen it used with apple pay virtual cards before as well as the bankwest halo

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          Thanks, I don't know there is a Contactless Payments Trial for opal until today. Didn't take train for a long time. I still hope they could allow me to load my opal card to mobile wallet in order to use opal card rewards.

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      Yes you can, if you have a linked Amex, Visa or Mastercard

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    Will they be doing Tap On/Tap off using NFC on the phone anytime soon?

    • +5 votes

      Technically possible but who knows when. I'd rather they fix up the train mess where a fatality on one line disrupts other lines for hours.

    • +1 vote

      This way you can use any contactless Card (be it Apple Pay, Samsung Pay, Google Pay, Citi Pay, a plastic card, etc) including your phone.

      • +3 votes

        Yeah I'd like to be able to, or perhaps an app that can simulate the opal card which can utilise the NFC portion of the phone. That way less likely to fumble and cause issues in peak periods getting in and out.

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    I assume this works for multiple transactions, capped once you spend $20?

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      No it doesnt

      The OP even covers this

      Any Opal benefits (such as travel caps or off-peak fares) are not applicable for payments made with your Card.

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        That’s not what I mean. I realise it doesn’t contribute to the weekly reward, but if I take 3 x $6 ferry trips using my Amex, will I only get 50% back on the first trip, or all three?

        • +1 vote

          Should be 50% back on all three; usually they state in one or more transactions. Isn't the most expensive ferry ride the one from Circular Quay to Manly which is $8.90?

        • +1 vote

          I think you would get $3 back on each of the first 3, then if you take fourth ride you would only get $1, as the total rebate is capped at $10.

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    can the officer scan your amex ? They do random check in light rail,

  • -1 vote

    This deal doesn't apply to Centurion cards because the Titanium messes with the antenna causing communication errors between the card and the reader.

    Counts me out, bummer.

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    "Sydney Light Rail route L1, "

    I'm ignorant so does this include the route from Central to star casino?

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    Also how does this compare with travelling on Sundays? There is stil a cap of $2.50 on Sundays?

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    Apple pay had launched the transport card (just like opal) in Beijing and Shanghai.
    Hope it will launch in Sydney too as there is no promotion to use credit/debit card.

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    From https://www.facebook.com/groups/466535556706915/permalink/21... (If you can see this on Facebook you will need to request access)

    Some Sydney Bus Routes will soon be opal card only ie you won't be able to purchase a ticket from the bus driver. Just like the current "Pre-Pay" program.

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