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Samsung 860 EVO 250GB 2.5" $99 C&C (Or +Delivery) @ PLE Computers

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Samsung 860 EVO 250GB 2.5" $99 C&C (Or +Delivery) @ PLE Computers
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Viper8 on 13/05/2018 - 18:01 ple.com.au (2359 clicks)
Last edited 13/05/2018 - 18:20 by 2 other users

PLE currently has the Samsung 860 EVO 250GB 2.5" SSD on promotion from $125 down to $99.
For reference MSY has this drive up for $114.
At the time of posting all of their stores have stock.
Promotional items are usually up for 1 week, though stock many run out.

For reference this drive is about 5% slower than the 850 EVO (though it still bests every other mainstream consumer SATA SSD I know of), however the warranty is improved (150TB endurance, up from 75TB with the 850 EVO).
http://ssd.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Samsung-860-Evo-250GB-v…
Comparison with the average of the 9 top-voted ~250GB SSD's.
http://ssd.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Samsung-860-Evo-250GB-v…

Improve your boot and load times by replacing your existing HDD.

Enjoy. :)

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  • Hornpub on 13/05/2018 - 18:13
    +3

    what a steal!

    • lostn on 14/05/2018 - 12:50

      You think so? I bought a 500GB from MSY ebay for $166 delivered using sitewide code.

      • barroda on 14/05/2018 - 20:30

        Which code?

        • lostn on 14/05/2018 - 23:20

          It was a targeted 20% off code (capped at $50 discount).

          Without the code it would be $203 + $5 shipping unless you use Pull5 or wait for a 10%.

  • cloudie9 on 13/05/2018 - 18:28
    +15

    $13 shipped. No deal for me. Guess its good deal for local pick up only.

    • Ostrk on 13/05/2018 - 19:44
      +12

      Maybe you should move to the best city in the country called Perth

      • cloudie9 on 13/05/2018 - 20:05

        Not much job for my field going on unfortunately otherwise I would.

        • Ostrk on 13/05/2018 - 23:31

          Most Aussies ignore it based on the stereotypes alone so I'm glad you would consider it an option.

        • Ostrk on 13/05/2018 - 21:46
          +3

          But in Melbourne African gangs will rob your expensive property and set it on fire.

        • justcallmeboss on 13/05/2018 - 22:54
          +14

          @fuzor:

          I'm proud of our expensiveness

          You have been banned from OzBargain.

        • Ostrk on 13/05/2018 - 23:27
          +1

          @fuzor: Taking too many left turns mate, should take a right every once in a while to balance things out.

        • fuzor on 13/05/2018 - 23:51
          -4

          @Basimx:

          Its fun eliciting a reaction once in a while. Cant leave every butthurt thing for JV to say. He'll get tired.

    • Lief on 13/05/2018 - 19:47

      It's still a decent deal considering the model, but yeah the shipping is too high

    • [Deactivated] on 13/05/2018 - 21:27

      Yep, bummer about the postage.

  • dts88 on 13/05/2018 - 18:32
    +2

    Any good deal for m.2

  • Alitoleah on 13/05/2018 - 19:54

    All Ssd start to reduce price now.

    • langthang on 14/05/2018 - 00:25
      +2

      Coz crypto mining is dead now.

      • AlexF on 14/05/2018 - 00:58
        +4

        How do SSD help with calculating hashes?

      • h4lcyon on 14/05/2018 - 10:48

        Please explain why mining is dead?

      • idonotknowwhy on 14/05/2018 - 11:25

        Coz crypto mining is dead now.

        LOL! My mining rigs all have Sempron processors and old WD Green drives which are on their last legs.

  • CVonC on 14/05/2018 - 02:01
    -6

    For reference this drive is about 5% slower than the 850 EVO

    So this drive is slower than itself?

    • beeepbooop on 14/05/2018 - 02:10
      +5

      this is an 860

      • CVonC on 14/05/2018 - 17:50

        Well there you go. Don't trust your tired self 😳

  • tomadeira on 14/05/2018 - 04:10
    +1

    guys - just hang in there - as i said before - there is currently an oversupply of ssd or specifically nand chips. e.g. budget SSDs used to cut costs with a DRAMLESS controller.

    someone posted a bargain on a silicon power SSD. Often associated with budget SSDs - the one listed actually came with a Phison controller that utilises DRAM. The cost of DRAM is highly correlated to NAND.

    call it a price correction, the other probable factor is that we will no longer see 2.5"SSD drives in less than 500gb, heck lets call it 1TB as a minimum.

    the reason behind this is that the form factor is a legacy from the rotating HDD and if you ever cracked open a 2.5 inch ssd to see how much space is used you'd know what i mean.

    what i'd wait for is a tasty 2tb in 2.5inch form factor to be offered either OEM or not at a price we can finally afford. (which would cost $3-4k as these were made for data centres i.e. higher endurance)) as the only limitation to the NGFF form factor currently is the ability to offer higher capacity drives within a 2250 fm2 stick

    • petry on 14/05/2018 - 04:39

      no-one takes any notice anymore…..

    • Crow25 on 14/05/2018 - 10:45

      Can you please provide further explanation?

      guys - just hang in there - as I said before - there is currently an oversupply of SSD or specifically NAND chips. e.g. budget SSDs used to cut costs with
      a DRAMLESS controller.

      Do you have any links to news articles that support that there is an oversupply of NAND chips?

      someone posted a bargain on a silicon power SSD. Often associated with budget SSDs - the one listed actually came with a Phison controller that utilises
      DRAM. The cost of DRAM is highly correlated to NAND.

      Are Dramless or budget SSDs just as good as non-budget varieties? Are they still worth buying? Trade-offs?

      the reason behind this is that the form factor is a legacy from the rotating HDD and if you ever cracked open a 2.5 inch ssd to see how much space is used
      you'd know what i mean

      What does the legacy physical size of the SSD have to do with the above comments? Are you saying that the enclosure for current 2.5inch SSD is wasting space, so they can fit more memory/capacity in there?

      what i'd wait for is a tasty 2tb in 2.5inch form factor to be offered either OEM or not at a price we can finally afford. (which would cost $3-4k as these
      were made for data centres i.e. higher endurance)) as the only limitation to the NGFF form factor currently is the ability to offer higher capacity drives
      within a 2250 fm2 stick

      Not sure I understand this? What price is OEM or a price we can afford? Then why would they cost $3-$4k or is this the price they are currently charging? What about those of us that are looking to buy 250gb, 500gb or at max 1tb models, do you suggest we wait still or grab one of these slightly cheaper SSD that are currently available?

      • tomadeira on 14/05/2018 - 22:07
        +2

        thanks for the wellformatted questions . but a 15 min google on those keywords would also provide you with the answers.

        following are my answers

        • news on these are hard to obtain but google it up - however action speaks loader than words and the number of deals posted on SSDs have spiked in recent months with each deal on the same model going lower and lower. This is no longer speculation.

        • yes - google how samsung micron and hynix was recently caught in price fixing on DRAM and if you spent a bit more time - look up a review on the WD Green SSD and observe the price diff between it and the blue.

        • yes, for SSD's to be adopted, backward compatibility is critical hence the form factor first started with the notebook size HDD form factor which is optimal. remember the days where SSD used to come with brackets that would allow you to fit the smaller drive in your PC?

        OEM are just generally where the bulk of the business of a large scale SSD manufacturer derives from. An example is the PM851 Samsung drive which is an OEM version of the retail 850 EVO. Obviously when you're talking about 2TB SSD - the costs are so high that a retail offering of a 2TB SSD drive have never been offerred until recently (notice the trend?) my point is a 2tb SSD would only be OEM as manufactured for server use which implies much better endurance rates and better materials such as MLC NAND instead of TLC with a slight performance hit. These industrial/enterprise grade drives have extremely high durability.

        here's something to read if you're keen…

        http://www.storagereview.com/storage_reference_guide

  • pinkybrain on 14/05/2018 - 08:13

    Why is the newer 860 slower than an older 850?

    • mrau on 14/05/2018 - 09:23

      Smart trade-off.

    • fuzor on 14/05/2018 - 10:12

      Endurance has been improved. You'll find they probably can't do much improvement on performance on the sata 3 interface. There probably won't be a evo870 until sata 4 or something comes out.

      Our even the 8 series abandoned completely for something only on pcie like the 9 series

      • pinkybrain on 14/05/2018 - 11:15

        even then with sata4, will it beat the m2 ssds?

        Maybe it is time to upgrade to a newer PC with with M2 slot

        • idonotknowwhy on 14/05/2018 - 11:32

          m2 nvme are annoying though as they take up PCI-E lanes.

        • pinkybrain on 14/05/2018 - 11:50

          @idonotknowwhy:

          So what does that mean in real life?
          Does it mean there won't enough lanes for 2 GPUs?

          If you only use one GPU, then why need to worry about this?

        • idonotknowwhy on 14/05/2018 - 11:57

          @pinkybrain: Well it doesn't mean too much irl. Depends on your motherboard, the # GPUs and the # SSDs you have.

          For me, my 1 GPU is now running at 8x instead of 16x. The performance hit is minimal though as far as "real life" is concerned.

          Then again, the performance difference between this SSD via SATA3 and a 960 pro nvme is also minimal for "real life" scenarios.

          Mostly academic.

        • pinkybrain on 14/05/2018 - 12:21

          @idonotknowwhy:

          I think it makes difference in real world, if you got 2 x m2 ssds and copy between the two drives.
          else it will bottleneck by the slower SATA 3 or hdd if you don't have 2 x m2 ssds.

          What about in terms of game loading times on the m2 vs sata 3 etc?

          So you got an 960 m2?
          How big and how much paid?

        • idonotknowwhy on 14/05/2018 - 14:40

          @pinkybrain: Yeah, makes a difference for me as I copy around 10+GB files a lot, But most people don't. Loading games, etc is the same.

          So you got an 960 m2?

          Yeah

          How big

          500GB

          how much paid?

          Can't remember, but I bought it from here with a 20% ebay code:
          https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/362080471429 so probably 20% off that price.

          Basically, I copied this guy: https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/338803#comment-5269366

        • lostn on 14/05/2018 - 23:29

          @pinkybrain:

          What about in terms of game loading times on the m2 vs sata 3 etc?

          I can comment on this.

          In the games I play—and I admit I don't play every game so I can't make a blanket statement for all games—there was no noticeable difference in load times between my 960 Pro 512GB and 850 EVO 500GB.

          In games where you must wait for every other player to load before the game can begin, you're going to be bottlenecked by other players.

          Even in single player games, I could not notice much of a difference if any. I regret not getting m.2 SATA with higher capacity instead. It benchmarks better than SATA but benchmarks don't represent real world use.

      • pinkybrain on 14/05/2018 - 11:51

        860 vs m2 970..
        will sata 4 beat m2 970 speed?

        http://ssd.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Samsung-860-Pro-256GB-v…

    • lostn on 14/05/2018 - 23:23

      The slight drop in speed is not perceptible in real world usage.

      I went from 850 EVO to 960 Pro which is 2GB/s. I don't notice any difference in performance. And that is a much bigger gap than going from 860 to 850.

      The 860 is plenty fast enough. It's better to have more longevity than a bit more speed you won't notice anyway.

      I would go even further. If you're tossing up between nvme SSD and SATA3 where the same money gets you more GB with SATA3, I'd go for more GB.

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