New route from Qantas International, they have axed the SFO flight and will operate this. Not a A380 flight, 747 and its 3 weekly. This is a long bloody direct flight too, nearly 17hrs.
SYD-Dallas direct flight $998
MEL/BNE-Dallas $998
Connections available to most places.
Vancouver $1232
TRAVEL: 16th May-9th December 2011
Besides Debbie.
Do you have her number?
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great call
I can't upp this enough.
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Well its a better gateway to the east coast.
Might book in for Oct/Nov and go watch the Mavs/Cowboys.
Don't mess with Texas
thats the slogan for the anti-litter campaign, not at all what people who say it thinks it stands for…
17 hours is very long. What's the maximum direct flying time?
Dallas -> NY = $339 RT
SF -> NY = $ = $412 RT
Via [Kayak]
Using July 1-July 16 dates
Singapore Airlines has a Singapore - Newark flight that goes for 18 hours 50mins non-stop using an A340
This would make it the 3rd or 4th longest flight IIRC, also this is pretty far for a 747 (I assume that's what they're using since they're bascially re-routing the San Fran flights).
yeah this is the longest direct 747 flight when it starts.
Would have been even better it was A380. I am assuming that its going to be the first 787 route too.
Probably wouldn't be, considering the 787 only has seats for 200-300 people depending on which model you purchase. And the 787s Qantas/Jetstar have ordered should be used by Jetstar to open up "cheap" flights to Europe, unless plans have been changed.
According to wiki the 747-400ER (which I assume is the one QANTAS will be using considering they bought the only 6 ordered, also the 747-400 can't reach the 13900km required anyway) has a range of 7670 nmi or 14205lm.
Apparently the distance between Sydney and Dallas is 13900km. I know this range would already factor in extra fuel for an extra two hours of flight or something but this is cutting it close IMO and would make for a very interesting flight if they run into some bad weather, probably make it just on fumes or something.
If its close they would just reduce the cargo load to increase the range, not really a problem.
Fair enough. Considering it can fly London - Sydney direct on a delivery flight.
But then isn't cargo what makes the money on most of these flights? Or is passengers actually flying between Australia and the US that often?
great deal.
I'm annoyed I now have to travel with United on the SYD-SFO route (my most travelled route, which I do quite a few times a year). Qantas was great on this route, since I would often get a row of 3 seats completely to myself in economy due to most flights flying under capacity. :)
This is a good deal, though, and the change to Dallas makes sense.
well this is probably why the route was canned, getting 3 seats is good for the customer, but no so nice for the carrier.
Why would you go united ? V Australia would be much better, even having to go through LAX. United is the worst airline i've every flown on.
??? If you are going to SFO, why would you want to fly LAX then SFO? United may be outdated, but its still better than having to transfer to a domestic flight at LAX. Also United is part of Star Alliance, so the points, lounges etc as well. Way more useful than the Velocity points if you travel internationally.
Pity about the axed SFO flight - going thru LAX is the pits
It is, but I think United will still be operating a SYD-SFO service if you want to fly direct. :)
went through LAX a couple of times, and it ain't bad. On the other hand SFO is probably better. Anyways, now you have the choice of going through Dallas instead:)
DFW is a major hub for American Airlines. This will allow Qantas to market fares to a few places on the east coast etc.. with significantly less connections. Good for OneWorld point whores like me :)
They should make one direct to MIA (and buy some 777-200LRs or 345s). MIA is another big AA hub, and gateway to South America. I know this is fancy thinking, but it would be great to fly direct to MIA, and skip those antique 757s…….
77W's would do it, QF has well and truly missed the boat on them though.
whats so bad about lax? im going there for the first time next month and are now kinda skurred lol
its not as bad as people make out. Depends which terminal, airports over there are quite different to our small domestic ports.
The immigration line is probably one of the worst in the country but it is getting better. Flown through maybe 3 times in the past few years. In 04 or so, it took us 3 hours to get through customs and we missed our connecting flight. This was when they just implemented fingerprinting everyone who went through…except they forgot to do ours. Oops. They were understaffed and all of the international flights came in at the same time.
Last couple of times, it hasn't been too bad.
I usually fly United and the terminal is a bit run down or well not as nice as other airports.
My first trip there was in late 2003 and they'd just started the fingerprinting thing, but I got through in about 45 mins! Never had a problem during any visit, through LAX, was just there again, in August/Sept and zipped along. Will be interesting to experience Dallas and compare the two. Heading to NY in May and dreading the thought of possible Customs chaos:)
It's a bit different indeed… in my experience, just after you emerge from immigration with terminal jet lag and put your baggage back into the system, a person in a uniform helpfully directs you upstairs to your connecting domestic flight, then shakes you down for a donation to feed hungry homeless people. I gave in and donated, then found out a couple of days later that this is a classic scam.
The person soliciting donations was standing in the doorway to the airport, and so apparently not technically on airport property, and the uniform they were wearing was a calculated imitation of an airport worker uniform without any actual fraudulent badges. I have no idea whether the charity is legit, but the means of obtaining donations is totally dodgy.
The number one thing I needed to remember in order to get on in the USA was always to work out the business model of people I was dealing with (e.g. why they were helping me, what they wanted from me). I noticed quite quickly that this was how other people interacted with me. So, ask the helpful uniformed person soliciting donations in the doorway at LAX if they work for the airport… :-)
People love to share their airport/airline horror stories and extrapolate them into the general experience that all travellers face.
I was warned against flying in/out of Heathrow, yet when I flew to London in September 2009 it was one of the easiest airport experiences I've ever had. Short security and immigration queues, lots of good shops open to satisfy hunger between connecting flights. Overall almost as good as Changi Singapore.
Horses for courses - I hate Changi but have never had a problem at LAX :)
The texas chainsaw massacre
Anybody able to find any good prices YSSY-KDFW?
This is not really a 'deal' at all. One attempt and I randomly found a $835 Sydney to Las Vegas return ticket in March and what's even better I could gamble the other $163… Now if only I had some money..
…and a sandwich.
that $835 is one way! You cant get across the pacific anymore for under 1k, United is just on the fringe of a grand so this is quite a good deal.
really? with which airline? qantas?
I think this is a great deal if you're travelling during peak periods, i.e. uni/school holidays. During other times you can get a good deal with virgin/pacific blue for around $1k, but during July the cheapest I found was $2k this far out. There may be deals closer to the time.
Here's a report from an insider site….
QANTAS today made official the new QF7/QF8 Sydney - Dallas-Fort Worth service commencing on May 16th.
This will operate 4 x weekly departing Sydney on Monday, Wednesday, Friday, Saturday at 1325 arriving at Dallas-Fort Worth same day at 1350. This makes for a 16 hour 25 minute flight time.
Returns depart Dallas-Fort Worth at 2200 on Wednesday, Friday, Sunday and Monday arriving in Brisbane at 0500 two days later. This makes for a 16 hour 35 minute flight time. These flights then continue to Sydney after 90 minutes on the ground in Brisbane. The majority of traffic at both ends of the route is expected to be connecting traffic and so the Brisbane stop is not a problem since Brisbane offers connections to the majority of Australian destinations as Sydney does.
Flights will be operated by Boeing 747ER aircraft and sold as Business/Premium Economy/Economy. The usual First Class cabin will be designated as Business Class and for Chairman’s Lounge and Platinum Frequent Flyer members. The rear two rows of Business Class on the main deck will be sold as Premium Economy for Chairman’s Lounge and Platinum Frequent Flyers, along with rows 34 and 35 of the normal Premium Economy cabin. Normal Premium Economy rows 36-39 will be sold as Economy for Chairman’s Lounge and Platinum Frequent Flyers along with the normal Economy cabin. This gives a 66J/W26/215Y configuration.
QANTAS will receive a rebate on fees from Dallas-Fort Worth airport totally US$3.1 Million over the first two years of the service. This will more than cover all landing fees and airport charges for the period with the surplus to be used for marketing.
what site did you get that info from?
16 hours to LA, 17 hours to Dallas, who cares?! LOL!
I'm taking advantage and heading to the State Fair!:)
What the hell is wrong with Qantas engines? This is turning into a bad joke another 747 engine is down!!!
Aviation incidents are a daily event. Not quite as serious as a faulty turbine blade (supposedly the cause of this latest 747 incident), but these things do happen. The Australian media unfortunately only report faults that occur with Australian airlines. It has to be a literal hole in the fuselage or crash for any foreign airline to get a mention. Therefore the general public believes Qantas is a terrible airline on the verge of having a fatal crash while all others are fine. Throw in a little nationalism (only Australians are apparently fit to service aircraft) and the whole thing gets out of hand. I would happily fly Qantas any day.
Check out the Aviation Herald for a partial list of daily incidents. It may help you sleep better on your next flight… or not :-)
Qantas' fleet are starting to age, so these sort of aircraft issues are going to continue popping up.
The biggest mistake that many are aware of is that Geoff Dixon (who is quite hated by many), didn't order the 777s. The option was sitting there, rumour has it 20 77W's were lined up.
Its going to be at least 5 years before all the 747s, 734s and 767s are retired.
There's not much to do in Dallas…