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Baccarat Sabre Knife Block 14 Piece $139.99 (was $499.99) (Free Shipping over $89) from House

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Constructed using high quality German stainless steel known for durability and strength
Blade runs the full length of the knife (fully forged tang), which offers stability and long lasting robustness
Weight of each knife has been calculated to ensure it is well balanced
Handle is triple riveted for comfort and control during use
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  • Oz8argain on 28/06/2018 - 15:35

    I have this brand and it's actually not bad!

    • Canberran on 28/06/2018 - 15:38
      +1

      "actually not bad" for an RRP $500 knife set doesn't sing confidence.

      • Oz8argain on 28/06/2018 - 15:45
        +1

        I don't have experience with other knives so I can't say much I guess, but it is definitly 10x better than the dull knifes it replaced.. and i cut myself a few times because it was so sharp

        • Daniel Plainview on 28/06/2018 - 16:05

          Meant in a nice way….but knives being dull is a user error, not any inditement on the knives quality. Also you may wish to check your cutting methodologu, I highly recommend the pinch grip and ensuring the non-cutting hand is always used finger tips down in a claw type position - as all things being equal a sharp knife is far less likely to inflict a cut through proper use than a dull one. :-)

        • Oz8argain on 29/06/2018 - 09:04

          @Nikko: thanks for the tip! parents been using them for years and when I started cooking I became careless since they were dull.

        • Daniel Plainview on 29/06/2018 - 09:13

          @Oz8argain: You'll probably need to do some major work on putting a new edge on them - a cheap dual sided stone like this will work well to do that:
          https://www.bunnings.com.au/trojan-25-x-50-x-200mm-steel-too…

          Then get a ceramic hone for maintaining.

          Being gentle is the key to good sharpening - as one bad stroke can undo a LOT of work.

          Yeah I know what you're saying - read up on cutting techniques as if done properly it's almost impossible to cut yourself.

      • freefall101 on 28/06/2018 - 22:48
        +1

        I've never bought a set of knives for less than 60% off (I think my current set was a $700 one for $129).

        It's like suitcases, if it's not at least 50% off don't bother.

  • brian77 on 28/06/2018 - 15:46

    I don’t have too much experience with knives, but am looking to invest in a good quality set. How do these compare with something like Global knives?

    • incipient on 28/06/2018 - 16:00
      +2

      Personally for me I'd take a set of 5 globals for the $250 or whatever it's going for now. Great design and quality steel.

      I don't like these as the handle is plastic bolted to the steel. The better ones are either integral, or in the case of the globals, the handle is metal.

      • Seedy seed on 28/06/2018 - 16:06

        Lol you obviously don't have large hands if you like global's. As for bolted on handles most German and customs have them unless it's a stick tang ECT.

        • incipient on 28/06/2018 - 16:39

          I do have larger than average, but I mostly grip the start of the blade so don't grip the handle like a clever grip.

          Some of the expensive German knives do use bolted handles, such as wusthof, but my experience with mid tier bolted ones is that they'll rust or fall apart a bit after 10 years or so. Metal handles and the single piece polymer handles are a lot longer lasting.

      • brian77 on 28/06/2018 - 17:18

        Thanks for the opinion. My parents have a set of global knives which I quite like but they are very expensive. Will be looking for some upcoming deals

        • Seedy seed on 28/06/2018 - 19:44

          Just get the global chef knife, cost you max $80 if you have a fast look.

          Within top 3 search result I found this:

          https://www.kitchenwarehouse.com.au/Global-Cooks-Knife-Sharp…

          No point having a knife you can't keep sharp as I said below. A cheap Victorinox paring knife for a fiver and any old bread knife till you find one you like, my preference at work is a Victorinox pastry knife. Great to use, mine has cut prob 30000 rolls 1000-2000 roasts deserts ECT and still going strong :)

        • Daniel Plainview on 29/06/2018 - 08:47

          Whilst I am not a big fan of Global knives, there's also these to consider: https://www.house.com.au/ProductDisplay.aspx?ProductSearch=b…

          Global look, different alloy to Globals but it's Jap steel and will be similar (which in simple terms means harder but more prone to chipping & spot rust than German, easier to sharpen).

          So 90% of the Global vibe - but much cheaper, package a few and throw that 25% code on and then get a magnetic wall rack.

    • garage sale on 28/06/2018 - 19:14
      +2

      there are 2 things to consider with knives …
      1- the alloy .. german stainless for knives is often x55, x50, or x45 ….which means .55% , .5%, and .45% carbon ….this will determine how hard the steel is when hardened.
      japanese knives have the poplar alloy as vg10 …used by global, shun and may others …..they often claim their own spin on it but most are vg10 based ….. allows it to be harder than the german steels so finer taper, sharper knife but more brittle and easier to chip.

      2- the design of the blade and the handle …does the handle feel good in hand, is the shape of the blade right for your style eg push to cut or pull to cut, etc. do you rock to cut things or push down ?

      they are all sharp out of the box ….get some stones and keep them sharp or send them out. … it’s expensive to replace knives if they go blunt, cheaper to sharpen.

      sharpening is the key and keeping sharp ….on you tube there are people that sharpen $10 knives to same level as $300 knives …difference is how long they keep an edge and even the $300 knives go blunt if not sharpened.

  • Zidago on 28/06/2018 - 15:50

    For $140, this set is actually worth that price.

    • garage sale on 28/06/2018 - 19:22

      we’ve got one of their $99 sets …german x45 steel , .45% carbon, so low in carbon compared to a single knife costing $250 ( a full set was $99) so it’s soft but it’s very easy to sharpen and doesn’t chip if abused …..
      global use a vg10 variant …very sim to shun steel. none of these companies smelt their own steel ….they all buy from smelters in sheets or rolls and make knives from the steel, then grind and sharpen.

      we own shun, global, triident and victorinox knives so are impartial .

  • Seedy seed on 28/06/2018 - 15:55

    For that sort of cash it isn't horrible if you want a set for on the bench, for the money though you could get a commercial style knife such as a Victorinox, a bread knife and 1-2 paring knives a mundial or equivalent steel and something like an accusharp and have a sharpening system as well. And as always a chainsaw file for sharpening the bread knife works for about $7.

  • Daniel Plainview on 28/06/2018 - 16:16
    +8

    I in no way meant to be a jerk but its curious to me that such a simple tool, thats relatively unchanged from it's forefathers from thousands of years ago is still so misunderstood by modern day consumers.

    I say this as a bit of a knife 'fanatic' but not a snobby one as I have ultra cheap Kiwi knives in my rotation as well.

    Best advise i could give is if you really care about getting the best from your knives - then focus less on what brand/quality of knife you buy and more on:
    * your sharpening/edge maintenance approach
    * treatment/storage of the knives
    * cutting techniques

    The number of times I've been to a person's home whose splurged on a new set of knives but they're cutting on a ceramic plate, using the wrong knife for the task, have no idea how to sharpen them, clean them in the dishwasher etc…..and then in a few years when the knives are 'blunt' etc they rinse and repeat.

    FWIW - and it's not exactly news but the RRP on these is a joke, I'd bet no-one in history has ever paid that. $140? Still vastly overpriced for what you're getting IMHO - Aldi had much nicer looking knives a few weeks back in 2 sets that used 'German' steel (which is actually generally a better choice for home users as it's softer & more forgiving of abuse than Jap alloys) for peanuts. Knife block sets are always poor value - only good if you 'must' have a nice neat set - otherwise buy best individual knives to suit your hand size, skills and food choices. But knowing how to sharpen well is king of this area by far.

    • incipient on 28/06/2018 - 16:44

      Have my vote!

      TLDR: treat knives properly - don't cut on hard surfaces like glass/ceramic, use wood or soft plastic. Don't put them in the dishwasher, and sharpen them properly!

      Cheaper knives treated well will always out perform expensive ones that are mistreated.

    • Seedy seed on 28/06/2018 - 19:45

      Best advice on here :)

  • Ryanek on 28/06/2018 - 16:21

    I just want to cut stuff, and put said cut stuff in ma tummy.

  • Hinee on 28/06/2018 - 16:22
    +3

    The RRP of House products are absolutely abhorrent

  • Olokun on 28/06/2018 - 16:50

    $139.99 (was $499.99)

    These are more like a $140 set of knives sometimes sold at $500 just to see if someone is stupid enough to buy them. (In reality sold at $500 so they can fake the savings amount)

    https://pricehipster.com/product/ec6_1rpdnACkMN9xp5jMZQ~rJt-…

  • muji on 28/06/2018 - 17:20
    +4

    Use code: FRIENDS25
    For another 25% off

    • Sir Flabo on 28/06/2018 - 19:12

      Can confirm this works!

  • Myright on 28/06/2018 - 19:10

    I'm not bragging but I picked these up 2 weeks back for $110 during one of the 20%off ebay sales

    They're pretty good… Not the best build quality and was never going to be worth$500 but for under 150 not too bad.

    Use FRIENDS25 for 25%off

  • avjaMASH on 29/06/2018 - 08:37

    Do your research on prices, $140 for these is not anything to phone home about. IF you miss out on this price, don't panic, a quick google search and you will find these are commonly sold for <$140, or <$99 without the steak knives…………….

  • Daniel Plainview on 29/06/2018 - 08:53

    Again FWIW Aldi dropped these just 2 days ago - so should be available instore. The handles looked very user friendly to me (which might sound naff BUT a crap handle that has nasty angles etc - as the Baccarrat knives look to have makes extended use unpleasant!) - these had the nice rounded Asian style micarta handles that you find on the Shun range.
    https://www.lasoo.com.au/offer/kitchen-knives-blocks-0/premi…

    Nice range of geometry on them - and what I mean by that is that the vege knives have a nice Asian style vege knife and the meat ones have a nice 'scimitar' design. The small cleaver looks more for slicing than legit bone chopping (which you need a much more robust one for) - also handy to have a proper boning knife included as the flexible blade makes boning out joints and filleting fish etc much easier than stiff chefs knife etc.

    $40 for the 2 sets. Very good buying IMHO.

    Get a ceramic hone (the Flaksa one from Ikea is excellent - the cheap textured metal 'steels' used in block sets tend to do more harm than good, butchers will use good quality steels to hone their blades between use - but these will generally be smooth & are used in a different way to a ceramic hone as they're not removing metal but just 'realigning' the blade tip which tends to fold over after use) - magnetic wall rack and you've change from $60-70.

  • follow on 22/07/2018 - 12:04

    111.99 at ebay with parka

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