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Xiaomi Pocophone F1 $499 (64GB), $549 (128GB) + Delivery (Free Shipping with Shipster) @ Kogan

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Cheapest base price ($499 for the 64g) and first I've seen of the 128g ($549) on offer. However postage may put this over the other prices we've seen. 1-2 wks shipping from warehouse

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  • +1

    IIRC Shipster should make shipping free? Correct me if I'm wrong.

    • Yes if you have it. Should I put it in the title? (first post… Sorry)

  • They will be having the armoured edition in stock soon at the same price

    • Armoured edition? Is that just like a colour change or will we see functional differences?

  • +2

    Have seen this as cheap as $461
    there are plenty of the 128GB around at that price as cheap as $520
    https://www.eglobalcentralau.com/xiaomi-pocophone-f1-6gb-64g…

  • Waiting for armored edition.

    • What are the difference between this and the armored edition?

      • +1

        Based on quick research the armored edition has a custom kevlar backing with a carbon fibre look to it unlike the base version which is just a plastic casing.

  • +16

    No NFC or Band 28…no way.

    • +1

      This ^^^^^

      Such a shame because the reviews are pretty good

      • +7

        No NFC killed it for me.

    • This should be made mandatory fields for any phone deal post.
      Admins?

      Save us the time/worry to go to find the specs of the phone. Here is a design suggestion.

    • Also it lacks some DRM certificates which means if you watch netflix or any other video streaming service using Widevine L3 DRM, you can't watch videos in HD. I heard for netflix its limited to 540p on the pocophone. Apparently it can't be added with a software update too.

  • +4

    Whitt will be the downside of no Band 28. Currently on lebara.

    • +7

      None if you're on Lebara (vodafone), since Vodafone network doesn't use band28.

    • +1

      Thanks for reply. Don't know why have I been begged for not being tech savvy and asking a curious question.

      • +3

        Probably by the Grammer police because of your attention to the spellings.

    • If you are on Telstra or Optus in Canberra with no band 28 your 4g will barely work.

      • This is not true at all have a look at the Optus tab here there are a multitude of 4g/lte bands this device supports band 28 is mainly for rural areas and was used to broadcast tv over large distances hence the low frequency.

  • How is the quality of xiaomi products? Are they a cheap copy? Thx

    • +5

      Not a cheap copy. Big Chinese brand with an expanding market place but no Australian official seller/bricks and mortar presence. Consequently the phones aren't modified for the Oz market and therefore lack features we're used to/need.

      • Yup. I found them better quality then the Huawei. Which is the 2nd largest mobile corp.

        • +1

          I find it hard to believe you would say something like that…

          Especially since there are ads baked into the rom, but up to you to compare Oranges to Apples.

          Xiaomi makes a lot of money on the services it provides, including ad revenue. It basically makes no money on the hardware, or at least they want to give the illusion that it is so. (If you look at the parts and labour, well, they are definitely making money on the hardware side)

          I sure hope you have used proper firmware you trust on that device. Albeit, if you use a third party one, do you trust it?

          The only thing I can say is Huawei doesn't bake ads into their roms. The only unusual thing I noticed was that they had a third party developer called Martin or something that was doing their weather app. That app has a lot of downvotes. I ended up throwing my Huawei phone in the bin because of this reason.

        • +8

          @VPNWasteOfCash:
          The xiaomi's I've used never had ads. I duno where you bought yours from but mine was fantastic.

        • +1

          @Jonski: The newer ROMs throw ads at you in their Security app and their file manager app. Can't turn them off. Not a deal breaker for me, but it would be nice if there weren't any.

        • @flaminglemon: aww dam never knew that. Out of curiosity where did u buy from

        • @flaminglemon:

          Just so you know, you can remove those ads. You can also delete most of the bloat, except for the security app.

        • @Wonderfool:

          Oh really?

          I recently installed blokada, and was surprised how many services from xiaomi miui rom would connect and be blocked

        • @Jonski: eglobal. I flashed the official ROM as soon as I got it. And when MIUI 9 was released, I flashed it again. Didn't need to. I just like knowing I had a fresh install.

        • +1

          @Polde:

          Yeah, it's miui biggest flaw. Lucky for us enthusiasts, xiaomi gave us quite some leeway. It's a shame we can't remove the security app, cause that's the dodgiest one of them all.

    • +1

      https://youtu.be/HGJ6-PXHmpk

      GSM arena review is extremely positive. This phone isn’t that much of a compromise over phones that cost 50% more. In fact it outperformed phones like the oneplus 6 in things like battery life.

    • +3

      my redmi 4x is really good and it cost $150, have had it since release and it's still going strong, best $150 i've ever spent tbh.

      • Same here - but the lack of storage is driving me to an upgrade.

        • what do you store on your phone? even with my 64gb sd card i still have over 40gb left combined with the internal 16gb, 1000s of songs/photos/messages, few movies.

        • @HKS: Nah, no issues with SD Card storage, it's the internal storage that gives me headaches.

          I get constant "running out of space" notifications and have to fire up DiskUsage to see where it's gone, then delete cache or uninstall apps, or whatever.

          As an example, I just ran DiskUsage over the internal storage and I have 365 MB free. 😶

        • @kale chips suck: you can redirect all that stuff to a SD card.

        • @HKS: Via MIUI? I've looked and couldn't see how to move apps to SD. Some apps data, yes - I'll check YT later tonight.

          Cheers for letting me know.

  • +5

    No Netflix HD

    • Apparently you can hardly notice that Hd on a phone, even then i rather watch netflix on a OLED Tv for contrast

      • +1

        Why compromise though? Besides, there is a massive amount of people that watch on their phones on the go or when interstate travelling.

        • +8

          Yeah why compromise by watching Netflix on a phone?

          You would probably be better watching at a lower resolution anyhow. Lower data usage, and if you’re on the go you might have streaming issues streaming higher resolution. If you are on Optus for free streaming they force a lower resolution too.

        • +2

          @Ronnnie: You could be at uni, school, work or any other place with wifi. You could download netflix shows to watch offline while catching public transport. Netflix wothout drm plays at 540p and it looks absolutely terrible.

        • +2

          @Ronnnie:
          Not with a 100GB data plan

        • +2

          @2expensive:

          I think absolutely terrible is an exaggeration. I've personally always lowered resolution to conserve data because the difference in quality is negligible on a small screen.

          Unbox therapy did a video about this actually. https://youtu.be/jAPa9Hftvtc

        • @Ronnnie: Just watched the video. It's really an unfair comparison, close up with little movement. Try actually watching a wide angle shot with action where the lower bitrate makes it a mess or something animated with jagged edges.

        • Already compromising by looking at cheap phones…why compromise right?

    • +1

      do you really watch netflix on your phone? if i have access to a tv i take a chromecast with me and plug it into the back of the tv, also you wont notice SD quality on a 6" display.

  • +2

    What's with all these b grade phones being pumped out faster than Steven Segal films?

    • +16

      Geezus you're old…

      • +3

        Who is Steven seagull?

    • +1

      Is the grade of the phone is based on its price, hardware or company?

      This phone is using Snapdragon 845, but selling at B grade price. It is sad that it is classified as B grade phone.

      • Snapdragon 845 is one thing that is most certainly worth considering, but not the only thing.

  • +1

    Yeah yeah these phones are cool but when are them 49/month pixel 2 plans coming out

    • Yeah, I'd recommend Pixel over this any day. Especially since that extra few hundred dollars can mean a more trusted device.

      No need to worry about the bootloader being unlocked by the seller and so on. It might not even be the real rom since it is an unlocked bootloader.

      If you do any kind of banking or online purchase, make sure you trust the phone and that it has all the features you need without resorting to third party tools to do something that wouldn't otherwise be required on phones you would source otherwise.

      If these devices were coming out of Singapore, Hong Kong or Taiwan; I wouldn't mind, but most are coming out of China and not the official phone we would expect from the Xiaomi factory. In which case you would probably want to pick one up whilst on a holiday instead of relying on a reseller to ship you what could be a chinese version of the phone.

      There is also the other option of paying an extra 10% and getting someone to source it from non-mainland china location and bringing it via airport and paying customs. (Do not buy from a reseller that doesn't state whether it is actually a phone produced for the China market or not)

      • +7

        Trusting google is also kinda the same thing lets be honest ;)

        • I mean… It probably isnt as bad as buying from a Chinese company from China with it's very lax privacy laws compared to USA. Gotta buy a phone from someone. Now someone with a raspberry pi and parts from an old radio can prove me wrong.

        • @RI4V4N: yeah China has atrocious privacy laws but it's not like the US (or Australia as we are also part of five eyes) has good privacy laws… Check out what they're trying to legislat always having backdoors in anything encrypted.

        • +1

          @RI4V4N: The amount of tracking and data retention that Google has is above all other companies. If you like being tracked, then def go with Google.

        • @1Cawk: yep. Still better than China though. Even with that.

      • Not sure I trust Google with all my data.

  • Is this the global version of the phone or not?

    You can no longer put the global rom on the chinese version of the phone anymore. It won't allow you to lock the bootloader which means you can't do many things without doing some voodoo on your phone. If you are happy to do tap your Credit Card details onto your phone whilst using Magisk, up to you, but most of us won't touch that because it isn't exactly developed by a reputable person. The motives are unclear and no payment is being received. You can figure out the rest.

    A lot of people have been complaining about their phone basically being a brick because they cannot use it access many safetynet restricted features.

    A lot of resellers have also been dodging the bullet by selling the chinese version of the phone and the buyers have no recourse as the phone is as described. e.g. Global rom albeit it with an unlocked bootloader.

    • Will a global version of this phone even be released? I thought the whole premise of the Pcophone was to penetrate the indian market for them to get a solid foothold on it since indian consumers don't dish out big money for smartphones

  • +1

    I know I'm being nitpicky, but without OLED, you can't hide that notch when the screen is on. The backlight still gives it away.

    Still, good specs for the price.

  • How's the warranty experience with Kogan? My father in-law needs a new phone but I was going to go bricks and mortar for warranty reasons. This is tempting though..

    • Nice and easy. Freepost both ways to Australian address. Did it 3 times with LG G4 and all done well.
      Still recommend a locally targeted phone for father in law types as something "that just works". Nokia, Huawei, Motorola etc

      • buying phones for other people bricks and mortar is the way to go …..otherwise when something goes wrong you will need to chase down the issues and supplier.

  • +3

    Will the 256gb/8gb armored black be available on kogan anytime soon.

  • Do GST included in the prices when buying from Kogan/DS online?

  • +2

    Unlocked – compatible with all Australian networks

    Is that even legal to say when it hasn't got B28?

    • Do you even know what B28 is?

      • Nah I just decided to comment about the lack of band 28 without knowing what it is lol

        Sarcasm aside:
        Telstra:
        63% have B28
        53% have B3
        12% have B7

        (Note Telstra doesn't have 4G on a lot of sites - B28 is actually available on around 90% of locations that support 4G, though only 63% of locations overall)

        Optus:
        84% have B28
        64% have B3
        43% have B40
        43% have B7

        Vodafone doesn't use B28.

        Best case you'll have 4G still but at reduced speeds… Worst case no 4G at all - only 3G.

  • is this a worthwhile upgrade over a galaxy note 4? Am considering this or an one plus 6t

    • Those note 4s were good. Ive just given my old one to mum and she loves it. Have you looked at the nokia 7 plus?

      • Yea, I did. Didn't like it..

        • The oneplus looks like the better phone, in terms of specks, but price is high. The problem with both phones is no local stock. That said, according to what I've read here, kogan are OK with warranties… Better than o/s companies. And if you could deal with a 500 phone that is very new, it might be a preferable option.

        • @TheRealCher: Specks of what?

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