Topping D10 Mini USB Desktop Hi-Fi Decoder $118 Delivered @ YiDuoHua Hifi via Amazon AU

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TOPPING D10 is a USB DAC with Line out, Optical and Coaxial output.
Use XMOS(XU208) + ES9018K2M + OPA2134 and customized Thesycon driver(Windows) to support maximum PCM384kHz/32bit and DSD256(Native).
D10 also provide OP socket to make DIYers more easily to change another OP to get different sound effect.
Display the format & sampling rate by indicator; Automatically turn on/off synchronize with the computer.
D10 is compatible with Android, Windows(7 or above), MAC.

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  RangaWal on 04/10/2018 - 18:23

  +1

  I guess if I have to ask I probably don't need to know, but what do these things do?

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    bogrolls on 04/10/2018 - 18:48

    +2

    I’ll probably get shouted down here but I’m going to say think of it like an external soundcard/chipset.

    You’d get this, then feed line out to an amp and then into headphones/speakers. Specific drivers may be required to allow your OS to use it effectively as outlined in the description.

    Cheers,
    Bogrolls.

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    unknown on 04/10/2018 - 18:55

    +4

    Digital-to-analog converter. Changes all the 1's and 0's of a digital audio signal into pretty analogue waveforms so sound can be heard from speakers or headphones. Just about everything you plug speakers/headphones into likely use one (unless the source is analogue, like tape or vinyl), but vary in quality and decoding capability.

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      RangaWal on 04/10/2018 - 19:16

      Ok. But why? Doesn't your line out/headphone from a PC do this?

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        Drpepper666 on 04/10/2018 - 19:33

        Yes but it's likely using the cheapest possible DAC you find in the great land of China

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        unknown on 04/10/2018 - 21:09

        +2

        Yep, but like I said, they vary in quality and capability. Dedicated DACs tend to have more accurate clocks in them to reduce jitter distortion (timing errors) and other things like non-linearity errors, resulting in a more faithful analogue output. Sound cards within your PC, whether dedicated or onboard, are also susceptible to noise and interference from other internal components. Units like this one will also be able to decode hi-res files such as DSD and PCM, although I don't really know why DSD is making a comeback, it's kind of a redundant format. That said, unless you own a decent pair of cans or speakers, you probably won't notice any difference anyway.

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        MetaphorOZB on 05/10/2018 - 09:14

        To put it simply, and what the other people who replied to you question didn't say, is that these are mostly for use with high-end headphones/speakers.

        If you have a pair of good headphones/speakers but are driving them from your PC, you aren't likely getting the sound quality your headphones/speakers are capable of.

        So unless you have a good pair of headphones/speakers, I wouldn't buy one of these.

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    JerryB on 04/10/2018 - 20:11

    +4

    Thanks for asking. I was also wondering. Thanks to those who answered.

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  bestbarginever on 04/10/2018 - 19:17

  how is this compared to : https://www.sxfi.com/tech/

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    superforever on 04/10/2018 - 20:25

    Not sure, D10 is mainly for music.

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  superforever on 04/10/2018 - 20:24

  +1

  I am using this from my HTPC foobar 2000 -> D10 RCA -> AV Receiver -> Infinity Speaker

  Mainly use it to play Hi-Res Music, if you have a very good headphone it will make a big difference compare directly from PC 3.5mm, too much noise directly from PC.

  You will need to use the special USB drivers and configure foobar to use it, so that PC can stream the audio to D10 to do the decoding and not decode by the PC.

  If you have a chance to try DSD256 music file you will feel the difference.

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  [Deactivated] on 04/10/2018 - 21:30

  YiDuoHua sounds like "one flower" in Mandarin which is so cute XD

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  clandestino on 05/10/2018 - 08:28

  -2

  Not cute enough to make me want to spend $109 on a completely unnecessary gadget.

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  Motozine on 05/10/2018 - 12:40

  I have not been happy with the quality of the unit and their PA3 Amp. Bought one from the previous deal https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/400278 and it started glitching after 2-3 weeks of use - output sound just stops and you need to reset it by unplugging/plugging again. I also had to return the Topping PA3 for similar reason as it completely died in a week.. I think they need to QA them properly.

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    superforever on 05/10/2018 - 18:52

    output sound just stops and you need to reset it by unplugging/plugging again.

    Are you sure the problem was not from your audio files? I saw similar problem with some of my DFF files. When I played the first track it detected as PCM and the next one detected as DSD and sound output will stop but foobar still playing, if I unplug/plug it the second track will detect as PCM again.

    No problem with SACD ISO from the same disc and others DFF files.

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      Motozine on 05/10/2018 - 20:44

      Thanks for the insight, but yes, I am sure - this was happening within the same track that had just a second ago been playing normally, and it was still showing as PCM signal - no changes here… Oh, dear.

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        superforever on 05/10/2018 - 21:11

        It may caused by the ripping process if you have ISO try it should be better.

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        superforever on 06/10/2018 - 00:08

        Also did you setup foobar exactly as in the menu and download the drivers?

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          Motozine on 08/10/2018 - 01:54

          @superforever: I've returned mine, so can't try anything else, sorry..
          But just to clarify:
          - I've had issues on flac files and just listening to youtube;
          - I've not installed additional drivers as both my mac and windows laptops worked out of the box, for some time;
          - I've been using VLC (mac), Safari, Firefox (win) (3 deices, the issue is not related to a specific computer);
          - Haven't tried ISO as I haven't got one, but it'd be silly to limit the use to specific formats - am I supposed to hassle with connecting somehow different if I'm listening not in PCM384kHz/32bit or DSD256?

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  atlas on 08/10/2018 - 23:25

  Bought on Friday and received today. After downloading the drivers all appears to be working well. Will test with some proper listening later.

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  superforever on 10/10/2018 - 13:54

  Now with 12.5% cashrewards

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