Moving to Eastern Europe - What Do I Need to Do?

[Deactivated] on 02/11/2018 - 13:17
Last edited 02/11/2018 - 14:53

I’m planning on moving to Eastern Europe (Romania) for a year or so and I’m not entirely sure what exactly I need to do.

I hold a current Eu passport and Speak the language.
I’m planning on renting there and possibly getting some casual work. I figured because I’ll be entering the country with my Romanian passport and I’ll be getting an identity card (They use this like we use our driving license) that should be fine, am I wrong?
I also might need a bank account that works over there and let’s you transfer funds from Aussie banks without huge fees or a percentage.

I feel like I’m assuming this will be easier then what it actually will be.

Any suggestions/info will be appreciated, what don’t I know or haven’t thought about?

EDT; I haven’t set a date yet, I’m in the planning stage.

Thank you.

Travel

Comments

  • 87percent on 02/11/2018 - 13:39
    +12

    Step 1 - buy ticket
    Step 2 - get on plane
    Step 3 - get off plane

    • HighAndDry on 02/11/2018 - 14:29

      Totally missed an opportunity to work "Step on plane, Step off plane" into that….

    • SydStrand on 02/11/2018 - 14:39
      +46

      Step 4 - buy an Adidas tracksuit

      • Caped Baldy on 02/11/2018 - 16:51
        +11

        Optional: Bring cousin to go bowling.

        • sauce2k6 on 02/11/2018 - 19:35
          +5

          hey its me, your cousin

      • [Deactivated] on 02/11/2018 - 17:28
        +3

        Step 6 - ask for money on GoFundMe

    • cameldownunder on 05/11/2018 - 10:02
      +1

      Step 4 - Don't look back, don't come back.
      P.S. That's not meant against you, but about your opportunity to leave this "Lucky" country ruled by puppets.

  • dane45 on 02/11/2018 - 14:13
    +2

    Can't say that I have much experience with Romania, but I would assume that setting up your bank account would be easier once you arrive there (although I recommend that you do your own research about opening an account)

    If you haven't already, look at TransferWise for moving your money overseas. Also check out Citibank Plus for being able to easily access your Australian money while you're overseas.

    Best of luck!!!

    • [Deactivated] on 02/11/2018 - 14:28

      I had a look at Citibank and it looked promising, I’ll check out transferwise. Thanks for the comment.

    • jasong on 03/11/2018 - 18:34
      +1

      TransferWise might not even be necessary. Citibank Plus accounts can transfer to overseas accounts fee free too.

      Edit: Hmm according to Citibank's website it's free to international Citibank accounts. Purely anecdotal, the transfers I've made to a non-citibank account based in France never resulted in fees. Unless the fees were incorporated in the exchange rate, in which case the fee was minor due to the conversion being close to the daily ex rate.

      An alternative is when you've got your local bank account setup, you could always withdraw money from the Citibank account and deposit it into your local account.

      • Kreacher on 11/11/2018 - 02:16

        I was reading this thinking, oh I've also done the same transfer. Then I saw the username. I thought the French bank would charge fees for accepting int. transfers but I'm glad it didn't!

    • ilikeradiohead on 04/11/2018 - 01:10

      Not sure about Romania but Transferwise is 0.45% + $1.50 from AUD to USD, I haven't seen anything cheaper yet. The tanking AUD doesn't is not helping though haha.

  • Randxyz123 on 02/11/2018 - 14:19
    +1

    Maybe research about health insurance ?

    Tax in Australia ? Maybe do your return for this year while you still live here so it’s done. If you have HECS, find out what you need to do you Can’t get out of it by living over there lol.

    Tax over there will require some googling.

    I’d be porting your mobile number to a long life and bring a spare phone so you can get bank codes if you have to. Sometimes putting a new sim in requires you to login on your banking apps again and verify it’s you.

    Transferwise for money and maybe a Citibank card.

    I’ll be getting an identity card (They use this like we use our driving license) that should be fine, am I wrong?

    No idea. If you require one as a dual national then it’s probably a good idea.

    Do you have any family or friendsover there who can help settle you, maybe co sign a lease since you’ll have no proof of income initially…

    Wait till you get there to sort out a bank account as you’ll need an address.

    • [Deactivated] on 02/11/2018 - 14:39

      Health insurance! That is definitely one that slipped my mind! Thank you. Would you suggest one from here or get one over there?

      I’ll set up a payment plan for my hecs so it still gets paid.

      Phone number will be put on one of those 365 day plan so no stress there. And I’ll get a local phone and number when I arrive.

      90% of my family live over there, I’ll be speaking to them when I settle on a date to go. I thought about having them co sign on a rental with me as it’ll make it easier but then I remembered how dodgy people are over there and I don’t think anyone would care as long as you pay them lol

      Thanks for the help

      • dane45 on 02/11/2018 - 14:56

        Health Insurance from Australia will only cover you while you're in Australia. Travel insurance will probably only cover you up to 90 days, if you're staying long-term you'll need to organise your insurance from a local provider over there.

        • [Deactivated] on 02/11/2018 - 15:08
          +1

          You would be able to get longer lasting “travel” insurance right? I honesty don’t know how great their local providers are

          • Presence on 02/11/2018 - 15:29

            @[Deactivated]: You definitely can. I used Allianz for 6 months of travel.

            • [Deactivated] on 02/11/2018 - 15:50

              @Presence: I’ll definitely look into this! Thanks

      • Randxyz123 on 02/11/2018 - 15:19

        Health insurance! That is definitely one that slipped my mind! Thank you. Would you suggest one from here or get one over there?

        Well since it isn’t a holiday you are living there, presumably local cover is best ?? I don’t know that travel insurance would cover you. Ask your family over there what they do.

        If not being to Australian standard is what you’re worried about maybe take out a 1 year policy but I’d say local is your best bet.

        • [Deactivated] on 02/11/2018 - 15:51

          Because their services are not usually reliable. And bribes are pretty common over there.

        • sghetti on 05/11/2018 - 15:12

          You'd want to go over every word in the T&C's of the travel insurance. I would be highly surprised if travel insurance covered you for extended stays that weren't for holiday or travel purposes. If you're residing their and working I would be surprised if this didn't void any claim. Don't assume you'll be fine, all of the horror stories of payouts not occurring are usually because of these sorts of oversights.

  • try2bhelpful on 02/11/2018 - 14:19

    http://canberra.mae.ro/en

    I would start here.

    • [Deactivated] on 02/11/2018 - 14:39

      I’ll check this out, thanks.

  • GG57 on 02/11/2018 - 14:21
    +1

    I have no knowledge of Romania, but consider the following:
    - you don't mention your living arrangements, but if renting you may need to satisfy an initial credit check; a local bank account and your identity card registration would help
    - to fund your new local bank account, a larger $ transfer would be better than multiple smaller $ transfers
    - is there a government health service; if so, you may need to register
    - is there national insurance/mandatory superannuation; again, you may need to register
    - drivers license?
    - you don't mention when you plan to move; arriving in the middle of winter would be a lot harder than arriving in other seasons

    Good luck regardless, enjoy the experience.

    • [Deactivated] on 02/11/2018 - 14:47
      +1

      I did mention living arrangements. I clearly said I am planning to rent.
      Haven’t given much thought in how I would transfer my fund and I guess that was another reason for this post. It’s a lot to think about. Why would a larger transfer be better? Is that to do with paying the fees once instead of multiple times?
      Super would be one I’d have to look into, their health system isn’t really anything to brag about. My family always says that if you want a doctor to see you and give you good treatment, you have to brib them.

      I don’t mention when because I haven’t settled on a date yet! Ideally summer/spring or even autumn. But I’ll see how things play out. At the moment I’m in the planning stage.

      That’s exactly what this is, a experience! I’ve never lived out side of Australia and I’m curious as to what it’s like.

      Thank you for your help!

  • HighAndDry on 02/11/2018 - 14:30
    -4

    Any suggestions/info will be appreciated, what don’t I know or haven’t thought about?

    If your post is exhaustive of what you have thought about, then a lot, because:

    I’m planning on renting there and possibly getting some casual work.

    How's the welfare system there, are you going to have savings, and do you have anything more concrete than "I'll get some casual work"?

    • [Deactivated] on 02/11/2018 - 14:50

      If I put down EVERYTHING I have thought about then I would still be typing this post. The aim is to see what is valid and what is not. I’m not here to waste people time with possible nonsense.

      I’m not going to another country to be on their “welfare” if I couldn’t afford this then I wouldn’t be going. The point of getting something casual/part time is to experience what it’s like to live and work over there.i do not have anything set in “concrete” I should of stated in the original post that I’m in the planning stages at them moment.

      Thanks for the help.

      • HighAndDry on 02/11/2018 - 15:03

        Hahah ok. Just checking.

        Honestly, cash money, accommodation, contacts on the ground. Those are the most important. Most other things you can 'wing' if you really really need to.

        • [Deactivated] on 02/11/2018 - 15:13
          +1

          I think having cash on me will make it all easier, renting with cash I can’t see anyone saying no.. accommodation isn’t a problem, I have family there but I’d rather have my own place. the reason for the bank account is so I don’t have to pull out to much in one go. Who knows what might happen.

          • codecaine on 04/11/2018 - 03:49

            @[Deactivated]: Bitcoin or something stable like USDC can be used for moving money around.

  • [Deactivated] on 02/11/2018 - 14:57
    +1

    Learn to dress really well. Your average Australian will look really badly dressed even in a county like Romania.

    • [Deactivated] on 02/11/2018 - 15:14

      Have you been to Romania?

    • Donaldhump on 02/11/2018 - 15:47
      +4

      i traveled through romania in bin tang singlets and vic bitter rugby short and thongs in my twenties, and had no shortage of stunners hitting me up.

      • [Deactivated] on 02/11/2018 - 15:52

        @unclesnake Lol lucky you.

  • peterpeterpumpkin on 02/11/2018 - 15:39

    You're smarter than me. I simply booked my flights and left without changing addresses etc.

    Check out https://smartraveller.gov.au/guide/all-travellers/Pages/livi… for ideas.

    • [Deactivated] on 02/11/2018 - 15:49

      Haha if I was going to leave right now then I would of probably done that as well.
      where do you go?
      How long did you go for? I wonder if I should book a one way flight or commit to A date to come back and buy a return flight too? How did you do it?

      • peterpeterpumpkin on 02/11/2018 - 16:34

        I did a working holiday in the UK for almost 2 years.

        I also didn't know if I'd go for 2 weeks or 2 years so I took a gamble and booked one way. It was a bit risky since I had very little in Australian savings upon arrival, I only worked casually during my time there and the pound kept dropping in value.

        If you can resist the temptation to travel all across Europe then Romania would be a very sustainable country to survive on very little (coming from a Sydney-sider's perspective). Personally, I would work as much as possible in any job in Australia before departure since every week you work here at minimum wage is more than a month's salary over there. Of course the challenge of making very little could add to the authenticity of the experience.

        • Randxyz123 on 02/11/2018 - 16:54

          If you can resist the temptation to travel all across Europe

          You’d have to though, surely. Work for a couple of months , then go travelling. Repeat.

          • peterpeterpumpkin on 02/11/2018 - 17:18

            @Randxyz123: Yeah. I think for working holiday makers that's the primary goal. Outside July-Sep it's like taking your Opal card out for Sunday funday.

          • [Deactivated] on 02/11/2018 - 17:31

            @Randxyz123: Depends on what type of job I can’t get. The thing is I’m not going to the capital, I’m going to a small city where my family lives. Most people there refuse to speak English and pretend they don’t even know it and my Romanian isn’t 100%. Ideally travelling would be great but even if it’s not the case, the experience of living in a completely different country would be good enough for me. And there is always the option of driving to neighboring countries.

            Sometimes what you want and what can actually happen are two different things lol

          • callum9999 on 03/11/2018 - 22:23

            @Randxyz123: If that's your primary goal, you shouldn't be living in Romania.

  • [Deactivated] on 02/11/2018 - 15:47
    +1

    I think they have a gymnastic entry test.

    • Ozpit on 03/11/2018 - 10:04
      +2

      If you can’t snatch and grab 250kg they put you on the next flight out.

      • [Deactivated] on 03/11/2018 - 10:21
        +1

        I was denied entry to Romania because I didn't stick the landing of a Yurchenko triple twisting salto and a sequin penalty deduction :(

  • altomic on 02/11/2018 - 16:14

    Ro-Mania

  • bargainhunter87 on 02/11/2018 - 16:20

    you need to get on a flight

  • Donaldhump on 02/11/2018 - 17:20

    get yourself here

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mamaia

  • Godric on 02/11/2018 - 18:41

    Bring me a Romanian on your way back

    • try2bhelpful on 02/11/2018 - 18:57

      You mean Dracula or Vlad the Impaler.

  • ozbargainer888 on 03/11/2018 - 09:45
    +1

    Came here just to say I’m Romanian too :)
    I’m pretty sure you only need your buletin to work and I’m sure it’d be easier to open a bank account while there. I remember seeing ING there so maybe look into transferring between Au and Ro accounts through them. ING also allows free international ATM withdrawals as long as you meet some requirements.
    What city are you planning to go to?

    • [Deactivated] on 04/11/2018 - 08:19

      I remember seeing ING there as well so I thought about that too but I figured that ING aus and ING ro are two separate banks right?

      I’ll be going to Lugoj. I’m not sure if I’ll call that a city though haha
      What part are you from?

      • ozbargainer888 on 04/11/2018 - 10:35

        Most of my family are from Brasov but I have some relatives in Arad. Last time I went was July 2017 and I noticed so many shops with hiring signs especially for English/French speakers but this was in centru in Brasov so quite touristy.
        I’m probably biased but I think Brasov and the general transilvania is the most beautiful and likely would be the best experience.

  • ShannonN on 03/11/2018 - 10:25
    -3

    So you are going to Romania for a year with no work lined up prior to leaving, going to rent but have no job or prospects initially? and only thinking of ever getting casual work to support yourself.

    Either you have a great deal of cash you are taking or the casual rate per hr over there is equal to 50 AUD ?

    Good luck

  • BertieBrown on 03/11/2018 - 10:59

    I think it’s really important to have some more concrete plans about how, what, where, and when.

    It’s great that you’re expanding your horizons and going abroad to experience another culture, however, I reckon if you don’t have more of a plan about where you will stay, where you will look for work, if there are job opportunities etc what skills are in need, it could be very stressful, and if you don’t have anybody in country to support you, it could be a bit dangerous, which would apply to anywhere, not just Romania.

    Based on your post I think you need to do some more research into your plan, making alternative arrangements, best/worse case scenarios plans and what to do in the event that you cannot accomplish what you set out to do.

  • Pantagonist on 03/11/2018 - 17:07

    Step 1: Watch Graduation (Bacalaureat).
    Step 2: Reconsider your need to travel.

    • [Deactivated] on 04/11/2018 - 08:32

      If you went by this sort of thing then no one would ever go anywhere. Remember the movie hostel? Or how about wolf creek?

      • Pantagonist on 07/11/2018 - 21:53

        I was mildly joking, but I think corruption in Romania is probably more of a problem for your average citizen there than elite businessmen paying to murder people in Slovakia or getting chased down by a psychopath in Australia.

        Obviously if you've been there before, have some family ties to the place and speak the language then you're not completely naive about the country, but I feel like walking into a labour hire firm and getting a casual job over there isn't going to be the easiest task? It's not exactly a secret that the place has struggled with institutional stability a bit since they took Ceaușescu out back and shot him.

        I hope it all works out well for you though. Australia's an OK place to be but if you're looking for a change then I feel that a lot of other countries in the world have lot to offer without someone having to sacrifice much if your needs are relatively simple (i.e. OK with just being able to find food and shelter).

  • Flanders on 03/11/2018 - 19:39
    +1

    Brush up on your eastern European cultural awareness, by watching everything by sacha baron cohen, especially Borat, and "The Dictator" ;)

    • [Deactivated] on 04/11/2018 - 08:23
      +1

      Hahaha

      • [Deactivated] on 05/11/2018 - 13:30
        +1

        no need to do all that, just read (and upvote) all my comments on the ozbargain!

  • DiscoJango on 03/11/2018 - 20:12
    +1

    kidney

    • [Deactivated] on 04/11/2018 - 08:24

      Romanians need livers not kidneys

  • belongsinforums on 03/11/2018 - 20:15

    Consider any skills you could pick up before leaving, e.g. Barista or bar work. Esl certification. You have family there so you're gold. Loved my time overseas. You'll have a ball!

    • [Deactivated] on 04/11/2018 - 08:25

      This is a good idea! Thanks for that advice, my idea was possibly delivering pizza so I could get to know the area a bit better and maybe meet some people too.

  • movieman on 03/11/2018 - 20:49

    Drum bun!

    Which part of Romania?

    • [Deactivated] on 04/11/2018 - 08:27

      Thanks:)
      Lugoj, it’s near Timisoara

      • movieman on 04/11/2018 - 08:30

        Awesome choice.

        I've got relos near Arad.

        I'd recommend visiting Lovrin baths (natural boiling hot water baths).

        Also, I believe that Citibank Plus would be the easiest way to access your Australian bank account, without any fees.

        Travel insurance in case you get sick, see if you can get at least 6 months on a credit card, then buy your own policy for the remaining 6 months.

        • [Deactivated] on 04/11/2018 - 08:40

          That sounds cool, I’ll add it to the list.

          I was looking at UBank and by my understanding of what I read it seems like you can transfer internationally without fees, can anyone confirm this?

          I’m sorry I don’t understand what you mean, credit cards give you travel insurance now?

        • barkingsparrow on 04/11/2018 - 11:41

          You need to be careful with all travel insurance (especially those included with credit cards) as they may not cover you if you are planning on staying in the destination for a longer or indefinite time.
          Be sure to read the PDS carefully.

  • DiscoJango on 03/11/2018 - 22:20

    and a multi pass

  • txb on 03/11/2018 - 22:31

    Isnt currencyfair better than transferwise?

    • [Deactivated] on 04/11/2018 - 08:41

      I’d assume people would suggest the one they think is better?

  • [Deactivated] on 04/11/2018 - 00:02

    Do the Romanian pickpocket gangs bother inside Romania?

    • [Deactivated] on 04/11/2018 - 08:30

      Most Romanians in general don’t have that much money. If the “pickpocket gangs” as you call them exist in Romania then they would be in the big cities like Bucharest (the capital).
      They’re probably gypsies you’re talking about anyway huh?

      • [Deactivated] on 04/11/2018 - 09:09

        You use quotes as though I'm making it up :).

        "A Romanian couple with seven children will go on trial in France tomorrow accused of running a gang of young pickpockets who netted €1 million from tourists at Disneyland Paris.

        Police say that the daily takings of one girl in the gang, whose members were aged 12 to 17, was between €500 and €800.

        Marian Tinca, 57, and Maria Iamandita, 51, from Craiova, are accused of operating a Fagin’s kitchen in which children were trained to steal wallets and phones."

        "HALF of all convicted pickpockets on the London Tube are Romanian (and officials say the figures are the tip of the iceberg) Of the 170 convictions between 2012 and 2013 52 per cent were Romanian"

        • [Deactivated] on 04/11/2018 - 09:26
          -1

          I used quotes because I was quoting what you said.

          The so called Romanians that commit those crimes are actually gypsies and while most gypsies are Romanian not all Romanians are gypsies.

          • [Deactivated] on 04/11/2018 - 09:31
            +1

            @[Deactivated]: That's a fun factoid not in any way negating what I said. Draw a Venn diagram.

        • ozbargainer888 on 04/11/2018 - 10:37
          +1

          Those are gypsies, not native Romanians.

          • [Deactivated] on 04/11/2018 - 11:23
            +1

            @ozbargainer888: From which country and speaking which language and repatriating crime money back to where? Romania, Romani and Romania? You should probably study the difference between nationality and ethnicity. The term used correctly was "Romanian pickpocket gangs". You are trying to use 'native' to sidestep an obvious fact. Romania has three times the next most foreign incarcerations in Britain for theft.

            • gyrex on 04/11/2018 - 17:22

              @[Deactivated]: You appear to be hell bent on associating Romanians with the Romani people. They may bear a similarity in their name but this is mere coincidence and there's no heredity between Romanians and Roma. In fact, Roma heredity originates from Northern India but now, Romani people/gypsies inhabit many parts of Europe, especially Eastern Europe and they're often vehemently hated (rightly so) by slavic/native Eastern Europeans. Actually, the largest concentration of gypsies I've seen on my travels of EE was in Bulgaria - they're everywhere there and one needs to be especially vigilant. Maybe you should spend less time besmirching the good people of Romania and appropriately apportion your ire at the correct people: the gypsies/Roma.

              • [Deactivated] on 04/11/2018 - 17:24

                @gyrex: No, I called pickpockets from Romania Romanian pickpockets. Stating facts is not ire. It's completeness. For example, three times as many Romanians are incarcerated for theft in British prisons as for the next most numerous foreign nationality, and yes, statistics are collected and stated by nationality.

                • gyrex on 04/11/2018 - 17:36

                  @[Deactivated]: Yeh, ok, stay willfully ignorant. The fact that nuance is wasted on you says a lot. Even the Roma don't consider themselves Romanian/Bulgarian/Czech/Polish/Slovakian etc and they're fighting for independence (whatever that means) but you're hell bent on ascribing these vile people as Romanian simply because they're squatting there and the EU (in their great wisdom) grant these scum special rights.

                  • [Deactivated] on 04/11/2018 - 17:41

                    @gyrex: Which passport do you believe they enter Britain under?

                    • gyrex on 04/11/2018 - 17:56

                      @[Deactivated]: I'm not disputing the fact that they're using Romanian passports. They're also using Bulgarian and Polish passports. You're failing to recognise and accept that these people are a completely different race/ethnicity (potentially nationality if the Roma achieve their desire of acquiring a state) and if the native slavic peoples of EE had their way, the Roma/gypsies wouldn't be living in their countries but unfortunately the EU grant these gypsies special rights which place a burden on the respective countries/societies and also tarnish their country's name. Simply calling these gypsy pickpockets as Romanians (whilst being technically correct because the Romanian government has been forced by the EU to give them passports), is also deliberately misleading and mischaracterising native Romanians.

                      Summary:

                      1. Whilst Roma and Romania share some similarity in name, this is merely coincidence and there is NO/ZERO/ZILCH heredity between native/Slavic Romanians and Roma.
                      2. Roma/gypsies/Romani people want their own state/nationality and generally don't identify as the country of their passport - they identify as Roma.
                      3. There is reciprocal hate between Roma and the native people of their adopted country (Polish/Bulgarian/Romanian etc)
                      4. Based on 1, 2 and 3, ascribing Roma as Romanians, whilst being technically correct simply because they hold a Romanian passport, is also intellectually dishonest by ignoring important nuance outline repeatedly above.
                      • [Deactivated] on 04/11/2018 - 18:17

                        @gyrex: OK, on the first credible google hit I got this, entitled "Growing crime wave as 50 Romanians arrested a day, figures reveal" Sunday Express UK

                        "Romanians convicted for crimes in England in recent months include Romelia Radu, 32, and Petre Niculescu, 39, who were each jailed for 14 years after they were convicted for trafficking a 14-year-old girl and eight other women into the UK before forcing them to work as prostitutes.

                        Bodybuilder George Albu, 33, was jailed for eight years after he killed 23-year-old gardener Chris Jones, by running him over in his £120,000 Bentley Continental, in Notting Hill, London. "

                        The names are distinctively Romanian. Are they changing their names to appear Romanian or what is your theory?

                        • gyrex on 04/11/2018 - 18:33

                          @[Deactivated]: Nice shifting of the goalposts there. Initially you were strangely focused on ascribing gypsy pickpocketing gangs as Romanians without exercising nuance to more correctly identify them as Roma/gypsies. I don't know if these people are gypsies or not, many gypsies change their name in order to avoid ire/discrimination from native Romanians but it's more likely that these may be Romanian mafia (who are mostly native Romanians). Many parts of EE still have a mafia problem which is a throw back to their USSR/communist occupation post WWII. Whilst the mafia make up a tiny percentage of the people, they're an enormous problem and I'd agree that these crimes appear to be committed by Romanian mafia (who are also despised and condemned by the average Romanian).

                          In any case, I've spent too much time on this back and forth. I think I've made my point in relation to the gypsy issue. Maybe you should travel to Romania - if you're young, I guarantee you'd have an awesome time - native Romanians are good people, intelligent, highly educated, multilingual etc; and if you're male, you'll enjoy the eye candy. Romanian women were some of the most attractive I've seen in the world, just behind Slovakians :)

                        • gyrex on 04/11/2018 - 18:56
                          -1

                          @[Deactivated]: Sorry, my last post. Based on your focus of Romanians, I'd assume you're probably a British migrant to Australia and whilst I appreciate your frustration with EE migration into the UK; the biggest issue facing the UK isn't EE migration, it's Islam. And for those politically correct nitwits who might be perusing these forums, I mean Islam, not necessarily muslims. Whilst there may be some residual crime from EE mafia operations, these will recede in time as the EE economies inevitably grow and become more prosperous. Islam as an ideology, on the other hand, is pure cancer. Whilst xianity is thankfully dying in western democracies, it's slowly being replaced by a political system and ideology which is even more immoral, evil and regressive. An ideology which was welcomed with open arms by the Merkel, the EU and idiotic, politically correct, regressive leftists in the UK. An ideology which runs contrary to modern western values and culture. This, unlike EE crime gangs, will no recede over time; quite the contrary, it will grow, fester and overwhelm the population given time and social welfare systems which reward low income families to have as many children as possible. This is the greatest threat to the UK, not EE.

                          The despicable hypocrisy is that these UK lefty nutjobs are now emigrating from the UK after they've seen the writing on the wall there. The problem is that these morons are migrating to Australia and spouting their idiotic, lefty, PC garbage here. We should summarily deport these nasty, idiotic British people back to the UK where their nonsense created the stinking cesspit they so quickly abandoned.

                          • try2bhelpful on 04/11/2018 - 19:01
                            -1

                            @gyrex: I presume you are being ironic here; because only Trump followers are that bat shit right wing crazy.

                            • gyrex on 04/11/2018 - 19:19
                              +1

                              @try2bhelpful: No, I'm being completely serious and because you lack any breadth of intellectual diversity beyond 'someone is critical of Islam, therefore he/she's a crazy Trump supporter and I won't engage them in discussion because I'm incapable of using any semblance of logic or rational thinking'. I'm an anti-theist and firmly believe all religions are evil, harmful, immoral and stifle progress. Whilst we can rejoice that xianity is dying, the proliferation of islam has to be of concern to those who value true liberalism, secular moral systems and western ideals which have been shaped over the past century in despite of regressive theocratic ideology.

  • gyrex on 04/11/2018 - 08:43
    +1

    I've travelled extensively throughout Eastern Europe, including Romania and I live half the year (oz winter/Polish summer) in Poland since my wife is Polish. Like most parts of EE, you will have a ball in Romania - tonnes of history, exceptionally hot women, great nightlife, fantastic travel opportunities, super friendly people, super cheap, great food, relaxed culture, great non-politically correct society where women are proud of being feminine and espouse old fashioned values, are highly educated and generally speak multiple languages. Just relax, take it in and enjoy the experience - don't stress too much, you'll find your feet.

    • [Deactivated] on 04/11/2018 - 09:31

      Thanks for that. I can’t agree with what you said more haha

      Some good advice/suggestions people have given/ made here though. I’m glad I made this post

      • gyrex on 04/11/2018 - 18:00

        When you get to Bucharest, hire a car and drive into the countryside - it's stunning and interesting. Romanian people still employ a lot of manual labour farming techniques and I saw horse/mule/donkey and carts being used in some areas which I thought was fascinating. Definitely try and get to Brasov and surrounding areas as well as the Black Sea.

        • [Deactivated] on 05/11/2018 - 13:35

          my wife is strong on plow.

  • This Guy on 04/11/2018 - 09:09

    Learn the line:

    "Hey cousin. Let's go bowling"

    • [Deactivated] on 04/11/2018 - 09:27

      This is the second time someone has said something about bowling? What the hell does this mean lol

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