Selling through PayPal

theknight27 on 19/11/2018 - 23:56
Last edited 22/11/2018 - 09:41

Someone is wanting to buy a phone off of me on Gumtree using PayPal. I'm concerned that they will claim that I haven't sent the phone and file a dispute. What protection do I have against a false dispute claim?

Is there a safer payment method for both involved? Here is the message they sent;
"Thanks for the reply, Actually i am buying it for my cousin as a surprise graduation gift and i will be responsible for the shipping charges via AUSPOST EMS to her address so that would not be a problem atall which means i will pay $50 AUD for the delivery charges. Let me know your final asking price of it and we can go from there and more importantly,I will like to pay you with paypal because its very easy, fast and secure to transfer money.. and if you don't have an account with PayPal you can easily set up an one by visiting www.paypal.com.au make any error on the Payment and to make everything okay with the both parties.

Best regards"

EDIT: Felt like it's a scam but hadn't used PayPal to sell so was unsure of how it can be abused. Thanks for the insight guys!

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  • whytd on 20/11/2018 - 00:09
    +12

    Sounds very scam like. Don’t do it.

  • CheapCoffee on 20/11/2018 - 00:10
    +5

    Use eBay with current no final fee promotion :) They can even use 5% off voucher if they want. https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/417260

    Don't fall for the scammers!… because what that person wrote definitely has my spidey senses tingling

  • [Deactivated] on 20/11/2018 - 00:13
    +8

    Gumtree = Cash + Pickup

  • trustnoone on 20/11/2018 - 00:29
    +6

    I smell a scam due to:

    paypal because its very easy, fast and secure to transfer money.. and if you don't have an account with PayPal you can easily set up an one by visiting www.paypal.com.au make any error on the Payment and to make everything okay with the both parties.

    and

    via AUSPOST EMS

    I wouldn't do it.

    • EightImmortals on 20/11/2018 - 09:35

      hehe, they lost me at " i am buying it for my cousin as a surprise graduation gift and i will be responsible for the shipping charges"

      Step right up!

  • Forfiet on 20/11/2018 - 00:32
    +4

    Love hows scammers literally sell you Paypal "paypal because its very easy, fast and secure to transfer money.. and if you don't have an account with PayPal you can easily set up an one by visiting www.paypal.com.au" would you say it like that if you wern't a scammer o working for Paypal??

  • follow on 20/11/2018 - 00:43
    +2

    Scam. They will attend send a fake PayPal confirmation of money sent to your email.
    They might even sprinkle in the old send you a bit extra, you send me back the extra.

  • holdenmg on 20/11/2018 - 01:15
    +1

    “Run, Forrest. Run!”

  • Tech5 on 20/11/2018 - 01:24
    +2

    Definitely scam lol. Have you heard of the other version of it? I am in the armed forces and and overseas so cannot meet you face to face. I would like to buy the car for and have it shipped to me. Do you take western union?

  • AdamFury on 20/11/2018 - 01:32
    +2

    Love the part at the end where he tells you how to sign up to PayPal. +1 for scam.

  • RandomBob84 on 20/11/2018 - 01:32

    If you actually wait for the money to ht your paypal i dont really see how they can scam you out of it. Although in saying that it doesnt sound right.
    If you go an read the paypal policy they dont actually protect purchases through gumtree though. So there is no recourse on their behalf.
    Hell you could even set up a new paypal account, get the money and not even send them anything and they can't do anything. Even if they open a case once it gets to human intervention from the paypal team they will close as they dont protect gumtree purchases.

    • Scab on 20/11/2018 - 06:50
      +4

      If you actually wait for the money to ht your paypal i dont really see how they can scam you out of it.

      Easy, stolen/unauthorised credit card funding PayPal.

      Then do chargeback and PayPal will take the money back from you.

      • D C on 20/11/2018 - 14:57

        Or simply a fake email 'confirming' the transfer. A PayPal noob probably wouldn't spot that.

        Oh OP; And for the 50th time, it's a scam.

  • HighAndDry on 20/11/2018 - 01:53
    +3

    Obvious scam is obvious.

    1. Shipping to an address that's not theirs? Check.

    2. Offering above your asking price (for postage)? Check.

    3. Wanting to pay via a method that allows easy refunds? Check.

    Safest is always cash on pick up.

  • GangGang on 20/11/2018 - 05:46

    Cash

  • alz on 20/11/2018 - 06:44

    Gumtree is only for pickup or if you want to buy via paypal for under $50

  • Scab on 20/11/2018 - 06:47

    will like to pay you with paypal because its very easy, fast and secure to transfer money.

    Guaranteed scam.

    That line is the scamer's favourite.

    Tel him bank transfer is fast, safe and secure.

  • SBOB on 20/11/2018 - 07:04

    100 percent agreement, 100 percent scam….

  • John Kimble on 20/11/2018 - 07:41

    make any error on the Payment and to make everything okay with the both parties.

    Best regards"
    Nigerian Prince

    Don't do it

    • Scab on 20/11/2018 - 08:31
      +2

      Pretty sure Nigerian princes only use Western Union.

      • John Kimble on 20/11/2018 - 08:45

        They don't buy phones off Gumtree either :p

  • altomic on 20/11/2018 - 08:17

    LOL

  • l005e on 20/11/2018 - 08:48

    Its a scam.

  • Randxyz123 on 20/11/2018 - 11:43

    Definitely a scam!

  • [Deactivated] on 20/11/2018 - 20:31

    I've done this plenty of times, I basically force them to send it as friends and family otherwise I wont send the item. A friends and family transfer cannot be claimed on paypal.

    HOWEVER I have heard the graduation gift scam before

  • Strahany on 21/11/2018 - 03:39

    As if it isn’t obvious enough, this is a complete scam. The buyer wouldn’t even need to file a chargeback since PayPal’s “Seller Protection” only covers you if you send the item, with tracking, to the address nominated on the buyer’s PayPal account. The scammer will ask you to send the item to a given address via a message. They’ll then file an “Item Not Received” case and, even if you have a tracking number, it’s irrelevant since it’s not to the correct address (the one on their PayPal account). Even if you give PayPal ‘proof’ in the form of screenshots of the message requesting you send it to the alternative address, they’ll point to their policy and say “tough luck” (likely because if they side in your favour, then the buyer would just file a chargeback and leave PayPal footing the bill).

    One of the older scams, so I’m surprised this is even in question, really.

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