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  GoogleFroogle on 22/11/2018 - 20:14

  Thanks OP! I am looking at getting a Piosolver setup on my computer.

  I don't need great graphics and won't be gaming, but will ram in a decent CPU and 64GB of RAM for heavy mathematical calculations. PioSolver asks a lot of RAM and CPU.

  Is this a good setup with the integrated graphics, maybe a Ryzen 1700X, a CPU cooler and whatever other bargains/cheap SSD I can find???

  I've been a mac guy and haven't built a PC for about 10-15 years when i built many.

  Thanks in advance!

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    Julesxzzz on 22/11/2018 - 20:34

    Heh, why are you studying poker solutions now, given the gaming laws and the dying game? Ryzen 1700x show be more than fine. Ibhavent checked recently, but he should say on his website. I remember a few years ago waiting hours using custom software to solve turn and river solutions on an amd phenom lol. Didn't think I'd find someone on OzBargain treating poker so serious!

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      GoogleFroogle on 22/11/2018 - 20:40

      Hey Julesxzzz….I'm mostly a live player (not breaking laws or 'Stars user agreements) ;)

      I'm mostly just hoping I can throw together something compatible that will be reliable and perform some big trees.

      I guess I'll hit PCPartpicker, but figured if anyone had hands on experience with a build, that'd be awesome for someone that is completely out of touch with pc building.

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        Julesxzzz on 22/11/2018 - 23:00

        Live players looking at solvers! What is the world coming to!?

        I bought a 1700x last week and have been looking at MBs. Was thinking of getting something more futureproof, but for $59, I can get this and worry about the future in the future. This will run pio fine (keep in mind nothing will run pio fine if you have big, complicated trees with many bet sizes) in the majority of situations. I'd skip the extra 32GB of ram for now.

        As this is ozbargain. I'll give you my run down on solvers.
        It'll probably make you a worse live player, because pretty much all live players are terrible and big mistakes call for big exploits. Unless you somehow find yourself at the final table of the $1 mill drop 100bb's plus deep against a few germans, than you've probably wasted your time. Solvers help identify small edges mostly. Concentrating on these comes at the expense of missing big edges in non optimal players for most. They are also terrible for analysing one single hand, if you want to benefit from them the greatest, you need to find lessons that can be applied across similar situations.

        If you are still interested in solvers. I'd do so with the understanding that the players who get the most from them put in a lot of work to understand the solvers limitations & reverse engineer the reasons as to why they do something so that it can be replicated and extrapolated to other familiar scenarios. This requires a lot of experience with them and some very solid game theory understanding. It takes a unique person to have the drive, disciple, talent and creativity to do that themselves bashing away at piosolver or simplepostflop.

        Luckily, some guys have already done it for you. First, if you haven't already, check out Alex's blog at GTORB it's free and by far the best resource about poker and game theory available. Many free lessons to be learnt there.
        And then second, for 20 USD/month you can get access to his solved library to have a look at thousands of solutions. On top of that he has some videos you can buy that are very good, which I think are better value than using solvers solo.

        After looking at the flop library at GRORB for a month or so, I think the best way to approach is starting at the back.
        Analyze a tonne of rivers, then turns. Luckily now, you can get free river and turns with piosolver and the computing power of a phone. Then finally I'd grind through all Alex's strat packs and flops solutions until you are sick of the sight of them.

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          GoogleFroogle on 23/11/2018 - 03:33

          @Julesxzzz: Awesome, thanks for the feedback! I'll definitely take that on board. Anything that can streamline this process or give me some shortcuts will be great. I am actually probably going to start with GTO+ as a start and then take on PIO if it proves worthwhile.

          For the large part, there is probably not a great deal of players I would ever approach in a GTO fashion in Perth/Australia as a whole, but there is a few. It is more going to be as a theoretical basis for my adjustments and to just purely have me think about WHY those lines might be suggested rather than learning verbatim what a GTO response to a perfect/GTO player is.

          Most of my money is still made from ridiculous exploits ;) But probably my leaks are as ridiculously exploitable. :)

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  Cheap Charlie on 22/11/2018 - 20:14

  Dirt cheap Johnathan Wendel edition board

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    Merlict on 22/11/2018 - 20:31

    You'd think they'd move on from this dinosaur, slap some Twitch streamer or Fortnite player's face on the box instead.

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      scrimshaw on 22/11/2018 - 20:59

      ASROCK Z390 PewDiePie Extreme Edition?

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  Rod M on 22/11/2018 - 20:19

  I have recently built two systems with this board, R7 1700 and 200GE, both work well, and 1700 oc to 3700 on kit cooler (could go higher)

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  NeedWifeForVeryCheap on 22/11/2018 - 21:53

  Any more future proof MOBO's that'll go well with a Ryzen 1700x? Still noobish & learning MOBO specs.. not sure on which brands are best these days

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    lovely on 22/11/2018 - 22:44

    +1

    asrock and msi are leading the budget market (150-200$) on b450 and asus is killing it in the high end division ($300-500). honestly this will work fine for a 1700x, a lot of ppl have been using that config and they are happy with it and it has pretty good surface area so vrms should stay cool for the most part (assuming you have good airflow). i just wouldnt be looking at world record breaking overclocks using this board.

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      NeedWifeForVeryCheap on 22/11/2018 - 22:49

      +1

      Perfect answer, thank you! =)

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  Junglegreen on 22/11/2018 - 23:02

  Yeah sorry if I'm asking the same question here but I'm one of those that pulled the trigger on that Newegg 1700x deal. This board will be fine? Currently using Intel.

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  GabbaKing on 23/11/2018 - 22:22

  Thinking of pairing it up with Ryzen 3 2200g for a SFF NAS build. Opinions?

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  ash7503 on 24/11/2018 - 00:31

  Asrock AB350-GAMING-K4 Motherboard (AM4 Socket) @ UMART - price is now $89

  ASUS PRIME B350-PLUS AM4 ATX Motherboard $79
  https://www.mwave.com.au/product/asus-prime-b350plus-am4-atx…

  Hows the ASUS PRIME B350-PLUS compared to the Asrock?