Stick to The Left - vehicle travel.

nuno on 25/12/2018 - 08:14
Last edited 25/12/2018 - 10:32

Merry Christmas All,

if you're travelling by car this festive season and embarking on some long journeys on the Queens highways, please remember to stick to the left as soon as you've overtaken the vehicle in front.

Do not hog the right hand lane until your car which is travelling a mere 2km/h faster and takes 3-5 minutes to overtake. This creates an unsafe condition for yourself and the car next to you by removing buffers.

Speed up, create the safe buffer for a lead in and pull back into the LEFT lane. This should be done in a matter of seconds, not minutes.

Safe travels.

Travel

Comments

          • Zachary on 26/12/2018 - 17:35
            -2

            @pegaxs: What are you, a taxi driver too??

            • pegaxs on 26/12/2018 - 17:56
              +1

              @Zachary: Nah, for work I’m required to drive trucks. Sometimes for delivery. Sometimes for road testing after repairs. Either way, if I apply for a job in transport, one of the first things they will ask me to supply is a copy of my driving record. I know guys who have been knocked back for a job based on one ticket on their record.

      • magic8ballgag on 26/12/2018 - 08:26
        +7

        It appears that not only are you a pain on this website, but also in actual day-to-day life.

      • nith265 on 29/12/2018 - 13:33
        +2

        Speed doesn’t kill. It's pushy, entitled, road raging butt holes that do.

        lol 100% this.

        Sitting in the right lane for no reason is complete inconsideration of other road users but that’s not the scenario OP paints.

        If a car is overtaking and it takes them a bit longer to safely overtake and get back into the left lane then so be it.

        Nothing is more inconsiderate or dangerous than someone (OP..?) deciding the best course of action is to tailgate the car trying to overtake to make them speed up.

    • JungliChilli on 26/12/2018 - 13:34
      +1

      Yup that comment made by op is just ridiculous.. People can wait behind the overtaker for a few mins if they need to.

  • bobbified on 25/12/2018 - 08:36
    +20

    OP may not have used the best example, but all he/she is really saying is, be considerate of other drivers.

    That should happen all year round, not just during Christmas.

    • whooah1979 on 25/12/2018 - 08:44
      +1

      Christmas is about the only time this may apply. The average travel speed on Sydney roads from east to west or vice versa on business days is ~25km/h. Overtake someone and get stuck 20m to 50m up the road.

    • jjjaar on 25/12/2018 - 10:22
      +2

      Share the road! Be considerate of everyone else. Pedestrians crossing, cyclists using lanes of the side of the road, buses/trams where relevant. We all need to share the road safely.

      • Scrooge McDuck on 26/12/2018 - 13:12
        +3

        Driving home from Manly late last night, I stopped at every zebra crossing. All the pedestrians waved thank you to me like I was doing them a huge favour. Just following the road rules over here. Good feels!

        • jjjaar on 26/12/2018 - 15:44

          I see this all the time! I don’t wave when I’m driving and another driver gives me way at a roundabout, but for some reason pedestrians thank drivers for following the rules.

          It is nice when peds do it, you’re right.

          • Scrooge McDuck on 26/12/2018 - 16:33
            +2

            @jjjaar: Perhaps it stems from the power imbalance. One party could potentially squish the other. :[

            • cameldownunder on 27/12/2018 - 11:17
              +2

              @Scrooge McDuck: What about, when in slow traffic, on a one lane, let someone from the other direction get across the intersection, feels good too.

    • spackbace on 25/12/2018 - 20:22
      +8

      Unless the wheels/tyres are different from stock, no factory speedo will be set too low, if anything it's the opposite. I've seen brand new cars doing GPS speed 100/101kph, but speedo shows 110kph.

      And adaptive cruise is to prevent driver fatigue, as you can follow the car in front without issue and just let the adaptive cruise maintain a safe distance

  • altomic on 25/12/2018 - 09:00
    -7

    typical labor post.

    /s

  • Daniel Plainview on 25/12/2018 - 09:10
    +21

    Did a 5hr trip a day or so ago on the Pac Hway and seriously though it's so well known it just takes a few folks to cause MAJOR delays and very dangerous situations. e.g one driver decides the right hand lane is their own and stays in it doing marginally more than the left lane (as Pac Hway is dual lane for most of it.

    Saw very few people 'speeding' - worst drivers I saw tended to not stay left - use the right lane like it's their own personal 'VIP' lane, causes backup behind them, people get anxious, too close to each other at high speeds, lane merges back left far too close to other vehicles, late or no indication before doing so.

    Not keeping left if not overtaking is definitely a major issue on roads - particularly come this time of yr. Is just selfish and stupid, folks see it as no big deal but is likely to be a big contributor to accidents.

    • whooah1979 on 25/12/2018 - 11:37
      +4

      This is why the States must employ more HWP to catch motorist that occupy the right lanes while not overtaking, and those that are speeding to overtake. They could easily take in $1000s every hour driving up the Pacific Hwy and Hume Hwy.

    • based on 27/12/2018 - 08:54
      +2

      Those problems don't sound like they're caused by the car staying in the right lane but the cars behind them doing stupid things.

    • cameldownunder on 27/12/2018 - 11:21
      +1

      Worst driver I saw was the one who overtook on the left lane, then went into the middle lane, to overtake the car in the left lane, merge back in to the left, just to overtake the next car in the left lane, by going into the right lane again, then 200 m before the 3 lanes would merge in 2, he would go in the right lane speed ahead, and push in to the left which is now the right lane, and then pushing into the right lane …..

    • npnp on 28/12/2018 - 07:42
      +1

      Exactly this..

    • TheBird on 28/12/2018 - 23:48

      It also contributes to the ever increasing number of road rage incidents.

  • EightImmortals on 25/12/2018 - 09:47
    +5

    Speed does not kill.

    "This is an excel file that you can download to your computer that shows, from an international study, that speeding – defined as exceeding some arbitrary posted limit – is only a factor in 5% of crashes. Even then, it is only A factor, not THE factor. http://aussiespeedingfines.com/downloads/Crash_Statistics.xl…

    It is a great spiel for lining government coffers with more of your hard-earned. If you need to speed up to overtake safely then do so as driving safely is way more important than blindly obeying arbitrary and capricious 'speed limits'.

    Also, these guys have the right idea.

    http://www.aussiespeedingfines.com/pages/Vision-for-the-Futu…

    • whooah1979 on 25/12/2018 - 11:44
      -1

      Data shows that 40% of fatal collisions in the past 12 months involves speeding. Is the data wrong?

      https://roadsafety.transport.nsw.gov.au/downloads/dynamic/ns…

      • EightImmortals on 25/12/2018 - 12:07
        +3

        'Involves' speeding is not 'caused by speeding'. The claim is that 'every K over is a killer' and that is patently false. Of course if you bingle your car at 150kph because you are fatigued, playing with your phone or pissed then the results might be different than if you were doing 100kph but the speeding was not the causal factor. Also I couldn't see what that report defines as 'excessive speed'?

        • whooah1979 on 25/12/2018 - 12:11

          Section 3.2.1.

          • EightImmortals on 25/12/2018 - 12:22

            @whooah1979: Cheers but that doesn't tell me what they define as 'excessive speed' only the number of casualties were speed was a factor.

            • backpaqer on 26/12/2018 - 10:51
              +1

              @EightImmortals: The number of crashes where a house was involved! Sheesh if they'd just built them a bit further from the road!

              Speed doesn't kill… It's stopping really really fast that usually does it.

        • [Deactivated] on 25/12/2018 - 12:14
          +11

          It's all about mindset. The fact is, that for the driver, there is no difference between driving 150kmh or 100kmh, except that you get there 30% faster. It's just that Australian's have been indoctrinated with the notion that speed kills. It doesn't. Most of the rest of the world's freeways operate between 130kmh-160kmh, and most of those countries in the civilised world, have lower road tolls per capita than we do. This includes Germany, which has large sections of un restricted freeways and the UK, where speeding on freeways is barely enforced up to about 160kmh. Both these countries not only have road tolls about 30% lower than ours, but also have oppressive winters with fog, snow and ice, which statistically should increase the road toll, not lower it. If you took out icy conditions, and looked at the summer road tolls in Germany and the UK, I'm afraid that the Australian road toll, despite its draconian restrictions, would look terrible.

          • twinbag on 25/12/2018 - 17:17
            -2

            @[Deactivated]: The difference is probably to do with fatigue. Trips are longer in Australia than the UK and the roads are straight and boring.

            • [Deactivated] on 25/12/2018 - 17:40
              +1

              @twinbag: Indoctrination example 1, see above.

            • EightImmortals on 25/12/2018 - 18:28
              +1

              @twinbag: That's part of it but how much LESS boring would it be if you could travel those longer trips at 150Kph or more? I bet you'd be fully awake and alert then. Of course that doesn't explain why most speed traps are set up on perfectly safe roads in built up areas….. Was reading a report the other day that taxes from speed traps are netting the government around 3 million dollars a day. They aint gonna give up that kind of booty anytime soon so the lies will continue.

    • akashra on 27/12/2018 - 09:11
      +3

      "Speed does not kill". Ahh, the same kind of argument we hear over and over from people who just want to justify shitty behavior.

      In an impact at 78km/h, your chance of survival is 50%. It then reduced by 50% for every 6km/h after that. In an impact at 110km/h, your chance of survival is so close to zero that it may as well be zero.

      • EightImmortals on 27/12/2018 - 09:35
        +1

        So does speeding cause the impact or does something else? No one is saying that speed is not a factor (if you bothered to read the previous posts)only that speed is not the CAUSATIVE agent that government claims it is in order to justify it's 3 million dollar per day tax grab. Also, can you please post the source of your figures.

        Edit: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_traffic-r…

        Seems we have a higher mortality rate than Germany which has autobahns where you can travel pretty much as fast as you like. If mere speeding were the CAUSE as claimed then wouldn't their death rate be much higher than ours. And besides, I'm not trying to justify hoons driving 20kph or more over the limit, I am objecting to the taxing of people who are merely going a few K's over in a safe manner.

        • cameldownunder on 27/12/2018 - 11:25

          The braking length doe not increase linear with the speed. Also the energy that the driver and the car acquire is not linear to the speed. A car going at 100km/h does not have the double the energy of a car that goes 50 km/h.
          Imagine being hit by a pillow ( not much weight - little energy ) and then, with the same speed by a cricket bat. Which one hurts more?

          • EightImmortals on 27/12/2018 - 14:36

            @cameldownunder: Not sure what you are getting at but if you are saying that the faster a car is going then the greater the damage when an accident happens then yes, I think we've all figured that out already. Is that an argument to keep lowering speed limits? Not IMO, let's face it, we could save a LOT more lives if we lower the limit to 5kph but that would hardly be practical now would it? My only point is that speed is not the cause of the vast majority of accidents and that government uses it as a great excuse to raise revenue.

            • wirelesscord on 27/12/2018 - 16:51

              @EightImmortals: I dunno man, you literally said "Speed does not kill", and then state that a faster car will experience more damage in an accident, which seems like a halfhearted admittance to the increased chance of fatalities in speeding accidents.

              The excel is pretty interesting as well. Based on data from Great Britain, the data suggest that speeding was a factor for 5% of total accidents. However, if you look at fatal accidents (which would be in line in your statement), excessive speeding accounted for 12% of those accidents. Also going too fast for the conditions (which is arguably speeding) accounts for 12% of all accidents and 17% for fatal. So under a third of fatal accidents, speeding was a factor.

              Look, I'm not saying that speeding is evil and anyone who goes over 1km/h the limit should be jailed. But to fully dismiss the dangers of speeding is irresponsible.

            • spaceflight on 27/12/2018 - 22:11

              @EightImmortals:

              My only point is that speed is not the cause of the vast majority of accidents and that government uses it as a great excuse to raise revenue.

              That isn't your only point.

              Above you are saying that "Speed does not kill". It does kill.

              You are looking at 'cause of a crash' and using it as a basis as the outcome of a crash.
              Speed might not be the main cause of a crash but it does determine the outcome and the outcome is the faster you are going the more likey you are to die or be injured.

              • EightImmortals on 28/12/2018 - 08:29

                @spaceflight: Yes. As I have clarified that point several times now you are just being argumentative for the sake of it. As you seem to be agreeing with me that speed is merely a a factor and NOT THE CAUSE in the outcome of an accidents that is CAUSED BY SOMETHING ELSE I'm not sure why you are persisting?

                • spaceflight on 28/12/2018 - 09:16

                  @EightImmortals: Of course speed is a cause of accidents, you'd be stupid to say it wasn't.

                  Your own source that "speed doesnt kill" clearly shows that speed is a factor in a significant number of accidents.

                  You can try and argue all you want that speed is "not the cause" and accidents are "caused by something else" but speed is the leading behavioural factor in car related death, the major contributory factor to the severity of a crash and an aggravating factor in the severity of all crashes.

                  • EightImmortals on 28/12/2018 - 09:31

                    @spaceflight: So what is your point?

                    Should we keep dropping the speed limit until we get back to horse and cart? Because it seems like that is what you are arguing for. Or should we try something different other than merely raising taxes?

                    • spaceflight on 28/12/2018 - 15:18

                      @EightImmortals:

                      So what is your point?

                      That you're wrong when you say "Speed does not kill"

                      Or should we try something different other than merely raising taxes?

                      What's wrong with having something in place to deter people breaking the law and then also penalising them when the do break the law.

                      Should we also relax drink driving laws?
                      Since 1997 Victoria has fined more than 75,000 drivers for being over the limit.

                      Are they 75,000 people who have been unfairly taxed because other countries have a higher allowable alcohol limit while driving?

        • akashra on 28/12/2018 - 09:56

          So does speeding cause the impact or does something else?

          Both.

          At a higher speed you're going to be releasing a much higher amount of energy, but you also reduce the amount of time you have to react to a situation that would cause you to lose control in the first place. Cars are also less stable at higher speeds, so if for any reason you have to brake or swerve (never do this for an animal - you would only ever possibly do this in the case of, say, a truck or car crashing immediately in front of you) you are more likely to lose control and become involved in a secondary accident. Another example might be deteriorated condition of the road, or for whatever reason you drifting out of a lane off the road and catching the edge of the bitumin. At a higher speed you're going to need more road to recover, and the car will in all probability behave less predictably at a higher speed.

          And then you've got stopping distance. In addition to the distance you travel before you even notice let alone react to an issue, you have to decelerate from a higher speed. You know why they decreased the speed limit around schools etc to 40km/h? Because at 40, the stopping distance and time is virtually zero, compared to at 50 or 60, which it reaches over a second.

          The simple fact is, people like you are using semantics to claim that others are claiming speed is cause of accidents when noone is. It is, however, a variable well within your control, and a variable which if altered would have the highest probability of completely avoiding an accident having occurred to begin with. You just refuse to accept that, and try to build a straw man to divert attention from the problem.

          • EightImmortals on 28/12/2018 - 10:19

            @akashra: Sure, I agree completely. Now how does that justify the government fining people for going a mere 5-6kph over the speed limit?

            • rlay3 on 28/12/2018 - 14:05
              +1

              @EightImmortals: How much over would be justified then?

            • akashra on 30/12/2018 - 13:51

              @EightImmortals: It's a figure, and they've put an exact value on it - not a fuzzy "ehhh, somewhere around here, depending on how we feel today or your attitude when you talk to the cop, or whether the cop doesn't like <insert stereotype here>". Not only is it your responsibility to ensure you leave a margin for error, it sets an absolute figure that doesn't change day to day resulting in the expectation being to break the law, but you then getting fined occasionally when you do what everyone else is doing.

              People just get used to having a sook because they do the wrong thing and they know it. Why have a law if it's not going to be enforced?

              You see this all the time. People complaining about 5-6km/h figures. Okay, so make it 9. Might as well round up to 10. In which case why not make it 90 instead of 80. Oh, so now you want a margin for error in that? Okay, so let's just keep increasing limits forever then shall we?

              No. 3km/h is plenty of margin.

              • EightImmortals on 30/12/2018 - 15:49

                @akashra: Bloody statists.

                Speed limits DO get changed arbitrarily (always lowered from what I've seen) even when no changes to a particular road or rate of accidents. Going a few K's over the limit is not doing the 'wrong thing' unless you are one of those types who believes that every capricious scribble on a bit of paper from 'government' are like the commandments from God almighty who would never be wrong or act out of selfish motivations and who's commands are not to be questioned. People should be fined for causing accidents and/or driving dangerously IMO and not for harmlessly going a few K's over.

    • goingDHfast on 27/12/2018 - 14:48

      "It has been proven that the most dangerous thing you can do each day is hop in your car each day"

      Stopped reading there.

  • Donaldhump on 25/12/2018 - 10:10
    +11

    Australian drivers have no concept of this, it’s their god given right to cruise in the fast lane ten below the limit

    • nuno on 25/12/2018 - 10:31
      +3

      There's is no particular demographic of drivers that do this. We've all done it at one time or another but the repeat offenders have a hard time understanding the potential hazards they're creating.

      Also apparent is the ineptitude or lack of skill some drivers have that cannot merge back into the left lane without impinging on the vehicles space behind and theirs in front.

      If you cannot maintain your vehicles speed on or off cruise control - seriously consider some advance driving lessons.

      I feel for the truckies out there who witness this on a daily basis.

      Keep safe.

      • Donaldhump on 25/12/2018 - 12:16
        +6

        I drive in Texas a lot, and the uk. Trust me the level here is different.

        You will get flashed in the uk and and the states. Here people are oblivious and do t give a rats ass/want to beat the shit out if you

        I drive on cruise control and it is insane the amount of people who over take you then pull in front of you and five minutes later slow down so you have to overtake them , then 10 minutes later come caning it down the road again.

        Anyway it’s Xmas , have a nice day everyone

        • w3b3d1g1 on 27/12/2018 - 12:17

          Agree. If everyone assumed everyone was on cruise control there would be less argy bargy and more respectful drivers and a safer and calm trip.

        • SirFlibbled on 02/01/2019 - 15:46

          Yeah I had one guy on my recent road trip give me a bit of a giggle. Just sitting on 110 on cruise. Approached a car in front pretty quickly. Over took him. Then about 30 second later he gets in the right lane and tries to over take me doing about 110.1km (very very slowly overtaking me). After about 5 minutes, and a few cars behind him had gathered, she still hadn't reached level with my back door.

          Instead of just slowing down and just sitting behind me, he took off like lightening and over took me then slowed right down to about 100km. So I over took him again (the entire time I just just sitting on cruise). He then immediately overtakes me again but this time only to them exit the motorway at the next exit 1km up the road.

          The whole thing was just very confusing why he even bothered.

      • p1 ama on 25/12/2018 - 13:56
        +6

        There's is no particular demographic of drivers that do this. We've all done it at one time or another but the repeat offenders have a hard time understanding the potential hazards they're creating.

        No, it is worse in Australia, particularly when city folk travel in the country. I've lived in both and I'm comfortable driving in both, but some city dwellers who rarely venture outside suburban Melbourne or Sydney just don't know how to drive down smaller country roads at 100 - 110 km/h.

    • movieman on 27/12/2018 - 09:48
      +4

      Whilst driving in Japan, so noticed people pulling over, we would pass, and then they would continue driving.

      After it happened a few times, we realised that they were only pulling over (safely) so we could continue without being stuck behind.

      Such considerate drivers.

      • TheBird on 28/12/2018 - 23:59

        I'm frustrated by the number of people who don't know this is the law here.

  • [Deactivated] on 25/12/2018 - 10:21
    +1

    Of secondary importance are fatigue and alcohol.

    • pegaxs on 25/12/2018 - 17:40
      +4

      …and "get off that (fropanity) phone!!!"

  • Cheeper on 25/12/2018 - 10:37
    +9

    Get over as fast as you can becase that guy tailgating you is entitled to do 30k over… :-(
    Was traveling on a hwy north of sydney recently and all lanes were fairly full.. no chance of making incredible time to your destination at all.. but morons with amazing driving skills (not) were tailgating .. why???

    • [Deactivated] on 25/12/2018 - 12:15
      +11

      And when you pulled over into the correct lane, did they sit at your side, or disappear up the road?

    • Antikythera on 26/12/2018 - 20:42
      -2

      you'd spend much less time being annoyed by these terrible drivers if you weren't hogging the overtaking lane. imagine how stress free you could be if you just left your car at home all together.

      • GregRust on 26/12/2018 - 23:37
        +1

        Don't make excuses for people with poor time-management. There's no need or excuse to exceed the speed limit (unless a medical emergency).

    • w3b3d1g1 on 27/12/2018 - 12:21

      'fairly full' and '30kms over'….. hmmm and here you were sitting in the right lane, breaking the law, to get back at 'morons' with 'amazing driving skills (not)'? Pretty sure you need to reevaluate your actions.

  • loropy9 on 25/12/2018 - 11:48
    +5

    Do everyone a big favour and take your stress pill before you get out on the highway.

  • Corrugated Ironman on 25/12/2018 - 12:23
    +1

    People rely too much on their cruise control then “overtake” without accelerating. If you’re not turning cruise on and off multiple times in a long trip your not being a responsible driver.
    Just sit back a click or 2 off the pace and let the idiots stress each other out.
    Stay in the moment and be safe.

    • whooah1979 on 25/12/2018 - 12:40
      -2

      Cruise controls are inaccurate. If the desired speed is 100km/h to 103km/h then set the control to 103km/h to 106km/h.

      • spaceflight on 26/12/2018 - 12:25
        +2

        Cruise control is accurate and will maintain the same speed you set it to according to your speedo.

        Your speedo may show a faster speed than you are actually doing.

        The speedo must not indicate a speed less than the vehicle’s true speed or a speed greater than the vehicle’s true speed by an amount more than 10 percent plus 4 km/h.

        The speedo must always read 'safe', meaning the vehicle must not travel faster than the speed indicated by the speedo.

        • mafmouf on 26/12/2018 - 14:38

          Have you ever gone up or down a steep hill with cruise control? I am almost certain it will not maintain your speed at all times within 10% of your desired speed.

          • Austaurean on 26/12/2018 - 21:06

            @mafmouf: Exactly, and cruise control will also turn off where it loses too much speed,

            • aussieolfaction on 28/12/2018 - 19:34

              @Austaurean:

              Exactly, and cruise control will also turn off where it loses too much speed,

              Fro personal experience, this is dependent on the vehicle.

              The cruise control on Toyotas responds this way by turning itself off when it loses too much speed. But Nissans try to gain back the speed by opening the throttle as much as necessary until the set cruise speed has been attained.

          • spaceflight on 26/12/2018 - 21:44

            @mafmouf: It will react just like you need to do with your foot.
            Without cruise control you still will not maintain the exact desired speed in a hilly area.

            If you read your car's manual it will tell you you not to use cruise control in hilly areas.

            But my reply was not about hills. It was in response to cruise control not being accurate and needing to set it faster than you want to go. Neither of those are true.

          • gromit on 26/12/2018 - 21:49

            @mafmouf: Really depends on your car, my last 2 vehicles would not vary by more than a few k's with a steep hill, definitely would not drift as much as 10% ever. my current car maintains speed easily up hill but does vary upwards of 5 or 6 ks on steep declines. You guys seem to think all cruise controls and vehicles are equal and behave the same, they DON'T.

  • horice on 25/12/2018 - 21:04
    +16

    Why do people get so hung up on cars driving faster
    Just pull over to the left and let em go

    • R-Man on 27/12/2018 - 00:03
      +6

      Yep I agree. I know some egotistical flogs who think they're saving the world by blocking the right lane of anyone who wishes to go actual 100 instead of "speedometer 100".

  • StickMan on 26/12/2018 - 10:58
    +2

    I’m usually one of the fastest people on the road, but even I will pull off (single lanes here, folks…) if I see a truck behind me for a while.

    The real entitlement is people thinking they can do what they want, how they want, while just staring blankly ahead and thinking they are the safest drivers in the world.

    • 2ndeffort on 26/12/2018 - 15:54
      +2

      The real entitlement comes from people that think everyone else is wrong for not getting out of their way so that they are free to break the law.

      • Toons on 26/12/2018 - 16:14
        +7

        Implied, Most travel under due to the speedo regs. (discussed on many a forum and validated)

        Why do you care if they are speeding by your keen observation or actually doing the permitted speed.

        Your comments sadly are making you sound like the entitled one.

        It's a simple rule KEEP LEFT doesn't take much interpreting.

        Not to worry though there is this regime called police who manage things like this so others don't need to so the rest of us can have a Happy Holiday.

        I won't reply to whatever comes next however if you still feel like arguing the point look up the local regime and discuss with them if it makes you feel better

      • StickMan on 26/12/2018 - 16:44
        +4

        Actually, the real entitlement is:

        1. Thinking that because you feel you're doing 100kmph, that the other person must be speeding, and hence breaking the law.
        2. Thinking that you are the one true arbiter of law and justice, and (profanity) everyone else that tries to do differently.
        3. Thinking that there is zero possible reason for exceeding speed limit. Nah, cops, doctors, ambos, medical emergencies - nothing like that exists.
  • Toons on 26/12/2018 - 12:37
    +1

    I met the first person I know of actually charged with this a couple of weeks ago a cabbie, he spoke to his colleagues and it seems they are finally starting to clamp down on the rule, that or they were bored and they needed to write a ticket for something ANYTHING.

    The rule is there so I don't know why people get hung up about their right to be in any lane as long as hey are doing the limit.

    Yes your driving to conditions but by law is there so you can't argue,

  • Herbse on 26/12/2018 - 12:45
    +6

    Doesn't the road rules say that you have to stay in the left lane unless overtaking?

    If I'm in the right lane doing the speed limit, and someone's is coming up behind me faster. I hate to say it but I do "speed" up and get out of the way.
    I shouldn't and I'll get nabbed for it one day.

    At least I'm not the type to go 10km/hr under the limit in the right lane and refuse to change even if it's clear.

    The police need to fine people doing a dangerous speed under the limit. It's just as dangerous when this happens.
    If everyone is doing the same speed, there's no accidents.

    • bs0 on 26/12/2018 - 22:16
      +1

      Only when faster than 80km/h or when there's overtaking signage, as per road rules in NSW + VIC, not sure about others (I think)

    • TheBird on 29/12/2018 - 00:11

      In QLD it's 90km/h and over and you need to keep left unless overtaking.

      We also have 2 other laws which kind of cover this for all speed limits. Obstructing the flow of traffic and another which for the life of me, I cannot remember currently. Basically, they're non-speed specific rules which you may be required to pull into the left lane, or even off the road in the case of single lane roads if you're holding traffic up. I believe the fine is 3 units and 3 points.

      I'd imagine other states have similar.

  • Sammy2000 on 26/12/2018 - 12:50
    +3

    I have been noticing these entitled drivers sitting on 90-95km/hr on 100km/hr in the right hand lane are also the ones who cross multiple lanes to exit at the last second. Same as when they enter the motorway, cross multiple lanes to jump into the right. This ALWAYS causes congestion at exits and entrances to freeways. Some don't check blind spots either, had one almost hit me a few weeks ago.

      • StickMan on 26/12/2018 - 16:47
        +8

        Keeping right when not overtaking IS breaking the law.

      • Sammy2000 on 27/12/2018 - 04:18

        I should save the dash cam footage of the frustrated speedy drivers and near misses to and from work.
        Keep left unless overtaking is a road rule and considerate to all drivers. Perhaps it is the courtesy on the road missing which makes it seem they feel so entitled.
        (Did not neg you)

      • aussieolfaction on 28/12/2018 - 19:48

        Everyone else is wrong for sticking to the rules and

        You're doing the exact opposite of "sticking to the rules" by hogging the passing lane (one wonders why it's called the "passing lane").

      • rlay3 on 29/12/2018 - 13:27

        Disagree with you there because you should stick to the left if you're not overtaking. It's the rule, and to me it especially makes sense on the freeway.
        If someone is doing 120 then yes they're breaking the law but you are too by not keeping left.

  • polishka on 26/12/2018 - 12:54
    +1

    I felt like I was in Germany over the last few days using the far left lane as everyone was on the far right.

  • OzzyOzbourne on 26/12/2018 - 13:32
    +1

    Sticking to the left is seen as a sign of weakness, particular in Victoria. Best to block the right lanes, doing just under the speed limit, then speed up if anyone tries to overtake on the left….. Now that's what makes a real Aussie man/woman!

    • DiscoJango on 26/12/2018 - 15:27

      we are a proud people

    • Donaldhump on 30/12/2018 - 01:13

      gotta box the gronks in

  • me4president on 26/12/2018 - 13:35
    +4

    I will find you and overtake you slow people! Even on double demerits!

    • aussieolfaction on 28/12/2018 - 19:56

      I had to overtake a few of those entitled types driving their cars well below the posted speed limit (going slow has gotta be 'safe', right?) on a country road in VIC a few days ago.

      One of them was doing 85 on a 100 zone, and I happened to be right behind this slow car, and vehicles piled up behind me unsurprisingly. What took the cake was the car merrily chose the passing lane when one appeared, and I overtook him from the left, and saw about 4 or 5 other vehicles following me after seeing this halfwit move onto the passing lane, and each one of them passed this car before the double lanes ended.

      These people come onto the internet to boast about how safe they are on the roads, and how they keep well under the speed limits.

  • [Deactivated] on 26/12/2018 - 14:26

    Travelling 20% below the limit with both eyes (unless your eyes and brain can perform 2 separate views at the same time) and hands on smart phone… browsing ozbargain web… this kills faster and with much higher certainty of causing an accident…

    than travelling 20% above the limit with eyes looking ahead on the road….

    Stay safe and be considerate to other drivers :)

  • max900 on 26/12/2018 - 14:45
    +5

    I have seen 3 near misses overtaking on single lane freeway over Christmas because some inconsiderate drivers doing 20-30km/h below speed limit and accelerate when there is a chance for overtaking. Most people overtaking are not even speeding but had to do it to overtake.

    Please always slow down slightly to let people pass. Let the police do their job.

    • StickMan on 26/12/2018 - 16:50
      +1

      National hobby, I swear…

    • akashra on 28/12/2018 - 09:57

      It's highly unlikely they were doing 20-30km/h below the speed limit. People throw these kinds of figures around all the time with absolutely no concept whatsoever of speed. The typical overtake speed you see on freeways is 3-5km/h.

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