Baby Formula to China

2 tins per customer clearly not working, my Coles has empty shelves and I see at least one article a week at a different place where they record people shameless Chinese buying baby formula in bulk. I'm bloody sick of it and I don't even have kids.

Is there anything we can do to stop it? Name and shame?

Comments

    • +2
      1. Order your formula online from Coles/Woolworths site so you never have to worry about stock

      2. If you don't want to order online just organise with your local chemist to order it and keep on hold out the back for you on a recurring basis.

    • gees, what do you think a baby can feed on if the mums milk dries up?

      • Food. Like our ancestors for countless generations before us.

    • Start pumping tshow… From around 1-2mths old baby You will need 1L per day, every day for at least 9 months. Good luck with that.

      • +1

        I wonder how babies grew up before formula.

        • Why don't you tell us then, considering you're such an expert? Or are you happy with incredulously asking questions?

          • @WinstonWithAY: The proof is in the pudding isn't it? People still exist. People didn't have formula. This isn't controversial.

            Then there are people who claim babies cannot survive without formula. This is controversial.

            So the experts who are redefining human necessity should be the ones "telling us".

            • @[Deactivated]: I wonder how babies grew up without vaccines
              I wonder how babies grew up without antibiotics

              • @WinstonWithAY: Completely different things.

                Vaccines work because a critical mass get vaccinated and it stops the start of an epidemic and slows spread of disease. The effectiveness of a vaccine is a negatively exponential to the rate of vaccinations.

                Also, there are no substitutes for vaccinations nor are vaccinations and substitute for something else.

                Milk powder where used serves only the person it is fed to. Also, milk powder is a substitute for mother's milk.

                Antibiotics also are not a substitute for something else for are there substitutes for antibiotics.

                Again, milk powder…

    • "Keep a generation gap. Try wearing a cap."

      Thanks to The Specials.

  • Both A2, and Chemist Warehouse export directly to China for willing buyers, hence why there is next to no sales history for that seller. It's easier buying it elsewhere, direct, without the huge premiums.

  • Be nice OP to show the bigger boys techniques than some turkey who sold 1 tin on Ebay . You know why lol :)

  • I really don't know how big this problem is but if it is then sell it behind the counter same way cigarettes are sold that way the cashier can try and identify if anyone is stashing tins in the car and going back in for two more.
    .is it inconvenient yes but people can't be trusted

    • behind the counter same way cigarettes are sold

      That would be impractical for the shops to retrofit this system, since these tins are larger than cigarettes and would cost a lot of unnecessary costs and efforts to implement for little gain. It might save face/ create good PR, but that’s not how business works.

  • Here's what the action looks like in Dandenong
    https://www.reddit.com/r/melbourne/comments/aafapp/dandenong…

    • Why is the pallet left in the aisle with stretch film on the floor? That's a trip hazard and a personal injury claim(s) waiting to happen.

      • They literally do this because if staff were to unbox it and put it on the shelf they would be mobbed.

      • I read it was placed there the night before for the morning staff to fill the shelves with.

  • If it's so important why not just offer a higher price than what the Chinese are paying for it? I guess eating out every other day, a new SUV, new TV are more important.

    • The Chinese are already paying a high price for it, at the moment there seem to be a shortage of supply hence price went up.

  • +3

    Name and shame, OP? You. You are ashamed of the colour of your skin. You fear prejudice and being mistaken to have the same morals. You're just paranoid. There's nothing to be worried about.

  • +10

    Such a media beat up, really.

    My local Woolworths - both in heavily chinese populated areas - Haymarket and Central Park, never had an issue with stock. In fact, everytime I went to there - I always took a selfie in front of the supply so I could let everyone on my Facebook know supply is good, nothing to panic about - unlike what right wing leaning media will tell you.

    My other supermarket, Coles at Broadway, again had no issue with supply.

    Now, any suggestion to "restrict" sale of baby formula is silly.

    Behind the counter? I bet shops aren't willing to do that.

    Get a prescription? 1. Anyone can get a prescription including foreigners 2. Are you willing to increase taxes because Medicare now has many thousand parents bulk billing each month just to get prescription?

    Show ID. To prove that your an Aussie? Wow, so if my relatives from the NZ/USA/UK/etc wanted baby formula, they would get knocked back?

    Now, the truth is, and it hurts:-

    Supermarkets love selling baby formula, stock comes in, stock goes out = profit. Though it doesn't go that fast out at my local stores I have mentioned above because they always have stock.

    The manufacturer loves it, again more sales, more production = more profit

    • Have you ever looked specifcally for A2? I haven't had kids, nor do I know anything about raising them but I think you will find the shelves are always cleared of specific brands. If you go at specific times you will even see a line forming and people looping self serve until the pallet is gone.

      I can only assume A2 is most trusted overseas and I don't know or understand why Aussie families need a2 specifically here when we don't live in a country where people happily make counterfeit goods that could kill you.

  • Australian Government needs to step in and make it illegal to send this product overseas. If the baby formula companies want to do business with the Chinese then fine, but they can go through the proper channels and export it.

    My idea would be to setup a system where each parent of a child is issued with an ID card by BDM. These cards could either integrate into the retailer's POS systems, acting as an approval required to be scanned when you scan baby formula, or simply required to be produced to the checkout staff member before you are able to pay for baby formula. This would then stop anyone without an official government issued ID for their child from buying baby formula.

    • That way parents who breastfeed their kids can sell their baby formula licence for exorbitant prices

    • +1

      My idea would be to setup a system where each parent of a child is issued with an ID card by BDM.

      This sound like an idea straight from the PRC government's playbook.
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Resident_Identity_Card
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hukou_system

    • Everyone should be issued with an ID Card, this should be linked to your BMI/Weight/Health Issues so you cannot buy fast food or alcohol.

      Oh wait…

    • right, so your relatives who visit Australia on holidays from the USA/UK/NZ/anywhere else in the world is not allowed to buy baby formula ha ha ha ha good one

  • +9

    Thats how you get to 300k annual income. duh !

  • Funny.

    They only go after two to three particular brands and formulae

    These special brands must give children superhuman powers or something?

    1.3 billion Captain China Ironmen for world domination!

    I welcome our new super overlords…. All hail the A2 masters!

  • +1

    If the baby can only stomach certain brands, surely you can still get specialist formula via prescription from behind the counter at the chemist? I know there was a bit of racketeering going on many years ago when mothers with health care cards could get 6 small tins (such a Neocate) from the chemist for under $5 (yes $5 for 6 tins). These tins were worth at least $20 each. So these people were getting scripts from the doctors and then selling the tins and making a huge profit. Never heard of anyone complaining then…but perhaps because it was all locals who were doing it.

    I always see all the brands in the area I'm in. Parents just have to keep an eye on stock and buy via online from stores too. No different than all of us constantly keeping an eye for bargains on ozbargain.

    We will soon become China 2.0 here with how everyone wants everything regulated. Sometimes I feel there's even a socialist mentality starting here, just that those particular locals don't realise it when they are demanding for various things.

    • +4

      how everyone wants everything regulated.

      The problem is, everyone wants things regulated, not for the good of the greater population or anything, but for their own selfish needs.

  • +5

    I bought 3 packs of gummy bears today. Will i get named and shamed?

    Love how OP singles out the Chinese. Like Chinese people always by stuff in bulk and therefore should be punished. But other races are so nice they don't right? F off.

  • +11

    I find it hilarious that people kicking up a fuss, if you need it so bad, wake up early and get in line, or order it online? DERP.

    People asking for regulation is just hilarious, asking for government intervention on MILK POWDER? LOL..

    Imagine knowing there's a short supply of something and not forward planning and stock piling it every week.

    Mind Boggling..

    • +1

      Exactly!!

  • +2

    I thought karicare and s26 are in the baby powder business for decades which means they have more r&d and experience than brands like a2.

    A2 doesn't even have specialty formula for problematic babies.

    Chinese who fall into A2 marketing is just as dis-informed as local who think there is a national milk powder shortage.

    Babies grew up fine before there were a2. There is no shortage of other brands.

    • +6

      Chinese people are easily swayed by marketing and superstition. The A2 milk only contains the magical A2 protein, just like how eating Tiger penis will make you virile and a sexual animal.

      • -1

        Hahaha, I can just imagine the easily swayed Chinese guy who's munching on a tiger penis like it's tobacco whilst reading this and spitting it out in disgust.

      • So are the morons swayed by paleo gurus like Pete Evans and looking into the sun. Stupidity has no bounds

        https://www.bodyandsoul.com.au/health/pete-evans-recommends-…

  • I think it could be a simple solution by just providing ID for automatic reservation of 1 or 2 each week (identify per address) Pay online and pick up tobacco counter with ID only.

    No shelf display no problems :)

    It's not a big issue.

    • +2

      Who pays for it and administers the scheme?

      • +2

        Taxpayers of course.

  • +2

    If anything, you're lucky baby formula manufacturers are not increasing their prices.

    They ought to since demand outstrips supply, which is what normally raises prices.

  • +7

    Nothing new here., please move along.

    Chinese people behaving badly/or against the accepted norm even after living in a western society after many years is not new.

    One only has to go online & view the issues that Chinese tourists pose where ever they go.

    Having travelled extensively overseas for decades I have even taken to choose airlines & hotels irrespective of cost so that I am less likely to be affected by Chinese tourists.
    Just so that I may expect a quieter & more enjoyable experience.

    Chinese people do not queue for anything…first in best dressed & all that, and that includes not respecting purchase limits at shops.

    • Higher income allows people to travel more. You should expect to meat more middle class SEA on your future journeys.

      • +1

        expect to meat more middle class SEA

        I'd like to meat some of the middle class females! ;)

    • 100% agree.

  • +8

    Interesting to see the number of negative votes against my factually honest comments.

    Seems some people are prepared to accept poor behaviour/not abiding by rules but not if its called out.

    • …votes against my factually honest comments.

      I haven't negged your comment, but I wouldn't say it's factually correct. Honest, in your opinion, but definitely not factual.

      Im not saying that their behavior is acceptable, but i think you'll find that one of the reasons their behavior gets called out often is due to the extremely large numbers of them traveling around the world at any given time. A lot of them have probably never been outside their homeland previously and know no better.

    • +1

      Negative gearing is probably collective bad for housing affordability in Australia, yet it is legal and people take full advantage (abuse) it. No difference.

      Nothing wrong with the baby formula hoarding itself, but the sheer volume of it and impact it has on supply for rest of the market.

      Easiest way to solve the problem? Make more milk powder, lobby the government to use the FTA to de-regulate barriers to export. etc. etc.

    • -1

      Probably negged by Chinese people no doubt.

  • +1

    Simplest solution would be for the manufacturers to have some kind of bulk order service that would allow these daigou shoppers to bypass regular supermarkets. They could then buy in bulk and leave normal stores to do their normal business. Win-win.

  • +2

    I like it when you see them buying up placebo "vitamins" in chemist warehouse.
    They're bring money into the country, and the only losers paying to secrete for expensive piss overseas.

  • +12

    I have a son,9 months old who is on formula. Did some homework and it turns out the brand doesn't particularly matter because companies are held to high standards for this product.

    My son likes both S26 and mamia (aldi). I don't have to compete with the hoards of people exporting because I'm buying reliable brands that aren't shipping overseas.

    Anyone who thinks anything here is immoral or illegal, is misunderstanding the situation and/or doesn't have a child on formula.
    I don't blame the Chinese for demanding Australian formula given the history, and those buying from supermarkets are just filling that demand.

    Preempting the allergy point - For any child with specific allergies, other brands offer products to meet these requirements.

    How about we get to real news.

  • +1

    If ya can’t beat ‘em, join ‘em.

  • +10

    I feel sorry for chinese parents trying to buy formula for THEIR children these days. The looks they must get..

    Also, isn't the shortage problem because the formula companies are redirecting their stock to China to maximise profits during the current boom?
    So basically the exact same thing these "personal shoppers" are doing, but on a bigger scale?

    Yet here people are directing their anger at the minorities as usual

  • Think about the insane wealth it's bringing in to Australia
    If anything it's the fault of the manufacturer's inability to meet the demand.

  • +1

    Watch this documentary on the contaminated food problem in China. There's a part there where they ultrasound a kids kidneys due to the contaminated milk powder. Makes you see it in a whole new light
    https://www.aljazeera.com/programmes/101east/2014/08/food-th…

    • It's unfortunate but honestly I can't say I sympathise. This sort of corporate behaviour is IMOH all linked to their culture of circumventing rules to make quick bucks, which is why I can't stand this ridiculous behaviour of bulk buying baby formula for money.

  • +2

    Not sure why they bother with the 2-tin limit charade. Seems rather pointless.

  • +6

    There are so many fake Aussie products in local Chinese markets. There is no trust exist. If I live in China, I will be spending a premium price foe my kids. I am sharing my own personal experience:
    1. Local market place advertised all Aptamil products have two different tastes. You can't choose which taste to get. In reality, some of the local Chinese merchants sell fake and genuine products together.
    2. Local recycler offer very high price for the empty tins.
    3. Not all families are rich. Normal families earns about $2k-3k per month. They are happy to pay for premium price for genuine Australian formula.

  • I remember having to run out at night, exhausted, to buy bellamys because my son would get sick on other brands.

    The stress of being tired, wife having trouble and being stressed at not being able to breastfeed among other things and seeing these soulless a holes working the system and emptying shelves.

    Just once I would've loved to release my rage and stomp a hole I to one of them. Alas, I had a newborn and couldn't afford the gaol time.

    • -1

      Why didn't you run out in the morning? Surely you can also release your rage by running a bit faster, that'll calm you down a bit.

      • -1

        Why? Because I had been up all night with a newborn and had to work in the morning.

        What makes you think it would have been there in the morning? Do inconsiderate pricks work during certain hours?

        You must think parents go through this for fun.

        You obviously don't have kids.

        • No I don't have kids, but I wouldn't want to release my rage punching other people because of this.

          You obviously do not make a good parent as you need anger management.

          • -2

            @FOX: "No I don't have kids" - this is where you lost all credibility.

            Without kids, you can't comment.

            You don't know how it feels but feel free to tell us all your invaluable, baseless opinion.

            I obviously wouldn't ever resort to violence… Actually, I didn't, did I?

            Ever just vented?

  • +7

    lmao if we knew people in China to do it every ozbargainer would be buying baby formula

  • +2

    I prefer breast milk personally.

  • +2

    Disregarding the fact that it's milk powder, its no different to OzB'ers opening 10 accounts to reap Ebay accounts.
    Deep inside people are just mad they can't make the money Daigous are making >:D

  • +2

    Its very easy.
    Limit 2 cans per day per person
    - not 2 cans per transaction
    Have someone enforce the limit
    Take a scan of photo ID if need be

    Such a simple measure to fix the problem
    Coles and Woolies are too stupid to actually fix the problem

    Don't blame the free market working properly - supply and demand dictates prices
    It's the idiotic execs in Coles and Woolies who screw us over on a daily basis and screw our farmers over with their $1 milk

    • +2

      Why do you need to fix the free market?
      Stop contradicting yourself.

    • +3

      Limit 2 cans per day per person
      - not 2 cans per transaction

      Easy to circumvent - get the whole family to buy two each, popping in at different times. Then, rinse and repeat at different stores.

      Have someone enforce the limit

      They do, but that's not their primary job. Their primary job is to serve customers. Also, see above.

      Take a scan of photo ID if need be

      Hahahahahaha

      Such a simple measure to fix the problem
      Coles and Woolies are too stupid to actually fix the problem

      They do enforce these rules. It's just very easy to circumvent and enforcing bigger measures would cost too much time and effort to gain very little.

  • I gotta say, this is awesome Popcorn Entertainment.

    Now, did I just run out of my supply?…

  • Unfortunately, CW and Woolies are all selling baby formula in China. Has anyone noticed that?
    A2, Aptamil and Karicare have been sold from Woolies and CW to China for a couple of years.
    https://detail.tmall.hk/hk/item.htm?spm=a220m.1000858.100072…

    • What's unfortunate?

  • +5

    Can nobody see that ebay listing is for 6 TINS!!!

    The profit is minimal (woolworhs sell for $23 each so 6 tins equate to $138).

    They selling for $160 making a profit of $22 which considering the time/effort/petrol they spend (not forgetting the dirty looks they get), is it really worth it? it does not sound like they will be millionaires easily.

    if they spend 1 hour buying the 6 tins (driving/parking/checkout) and another 1 hour to ship the item (packing/printing address labels/taking to post office) then thats less than minimum wage.

    I do not support them but do not misread the listing

  • The outraged people are ridiculous hypocrites which would do the same if they knew of a similar opportunity that they can take advantage of, or alternatively lazy or stupid if they knew and didn't take advantage of it.

    My baby is almost three and we went through this during the peak, in one night I went to every pharmacy from Bankstown Hospital, Condell Park, Bass Hill, Georges Hall etc, 9 different places to find a single tin of Aptamil.

    Was it annoying? Yes
    Was it frustrating? Yes
    Was what they were doing illegal? No
    Was what they were doing wrong? No

    Now to the supermarkets, they can stop the practice of multiple purchases quite easy by way of several proven methods.
    I'll list the best two methods

    • Limit purchase to a single tin per 2 days* (Enforcable sale with a registered rewards card only, no rewards card, no sale, Register checks for purchase in the last 48 hour period) - a person may have Multiple Rewards cards but if they are linked to the same account it refuses the sale. Also remove any rewards point, contributions to offers (eg. spend $60 get 2000 points) from the tins just like cigarettes etc. with Multiple purchasing must require the return of an empty tin of the same brand of baby formula (1 empty for 1 full)

    • Increase Pricing of the formula to remove the incentive to Daigou, with possible cash back scheme on return of an empty can. So Aptamil which is $18 - $25 in most places becomes $30 - $37 with a $10 refund on return of a can to the supermarket.

    • Initial Newborn Formula will be made available with for 'free' if the customer agrees to have info added or sign up to rewards with the hospital birth certificate, with the unique number placed in the system to prevent rorting. Or use a prescription system from the hospital where by first tin can be purchased at the pharmacy.

  • -3

    As a Chinese, I previously thought that Australian has higher moral ground and are usually well educated and decent people.
    They won't take advantage of something like buying bulks of baby milk from supermarket.
    Very soon my such belief vanished when I saw this:
    https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/428324
    https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/414796
    It seems lots of people abuse the new customer offer by repeatedly creating new account using new email address.
    Obviously this is wrong and everyone knows about it but I see no shame from no one.
    The funny thing is, even a Chinese(at least me) won't do that.

    Speaking back to the baby formula. Do you know one of the root cause of baby formula shortage here in Australia is because:
    The milk formula companies can gain more money by selling milk powder to other countries, like China, normally with a much higher price.
    That is what they are doing. They don't put local customers first. Instead, they put oversea market first because that is the future for their growth.
    And the large exporting is one reason there is not enough milk in Australia.
    Believe it or not, the milk company are very happy to see Chinese buying their stuff as the Chinese buyers contribute a great deal of their profit and are driving their stock price high.
    When the baby formula producers are happy with the Chinese buyers, and when the Chinese buyers are happy with the products, it is a honeymoon. So what is your position to blame?

    It might hurt your feeling but the truth is:
    The Australian milk formula producers are not established to feed your baby. They don't care about if or not you are a mother and you have babies to feed. They only care about their revenue.
    Wake up you are living in a capitalism country.

    • +3

      @_@ first i didnt -ve you.

      The Australians that you are referring to are likely your comrades or ex country men. Your first and 2nd sentence might get you into big boo boo.

      Other than that…I was at Eastwood parked my old Toyota next to a large infinity Suv.

      The owner and the mum just parked their car and his mum open the door straight to my door car hitting it so hard.

      Funny thing she came down and the first thing she checked on her car door instead of apologising to me. I wasnt mad as it was my old crappy car but the fact she walk away like nothing had happened.

      I am sure I would be barked at if it was the other way even with an apology.

      Its obvious there is a distinct cultural/ethical/behavioral issue that needs to be adapt or adopt when you are living in another country
      Other than that its got nothing to do with Australian for the export side its capitalism.

      "I see no shame from no one." Lol you are a milk powder seller.

      • -2

        "Lol you are a milk powder seller." —— I am not.
        Being a Chinese does not categorize me. I am who I am, a individual person regardless of nationalities.
        I met both bad and good people in China(some of them are with bad manner, but they are really good people.) and in other countries.

        A human is a murder. You could say:
        Wow,look that, a male is a murder.
        A father is a murder.
        A doctor is a murder.
        An Australian is a murder.
        An master-degree holder is a murder.
        All above statements are true, that person is a male, a father, a doctor, an Australian and a master-degree holder. But it is wrong to category and label the murder like that.

        In the same way, the person who offended you was just a person, don't treat him as whole Chinese. That will be too narrow minded.

        • Nah wasn't offended but just think there is something wrong/missing with their thinking process

          How about this…..

          China and Taiwan are different countries. Shouldnt be as one but as separate countries and consider both to be chinese descendants countries.

          Whats your perception on this?
          My best question to a mainland chinese.

          Lol its saying Sri Lankan and Indians are indians descendants but got corrected many times.

    • +1

      Sadly I can't reply with the first words that come to mind. However there is a great chance you're just trolling.

      The two examples Vs baby formula don't relate in the way you think it does in your mind.
      Having spent far too much of my earlier life in retail the shonkiest people I've come across are Chinese, including the ones I work with, they come up with ways to rort the system in ways much greater than anyone I've met. They also then seem proud of what they've come up with.
      One example is one guy (Chinese) who would create email after email account when food delivery services were giving away $10-20 sign up bonuses, he ate for free for quite a while and was ever so proud of himself.

      Take for example the PBS situation where someone goes to the Dr (who is a friend or family relative), gets a stack of Rx's for things they don't need but have high value and are subsidised via the PBS, they take the max allowed (per Rx filled) with them back to China and sell them for huge profit over the $6.40 paid for here while tax payers foot the bill. Return and then do it again.
      Do you think the Diagou are honest and are paying tax on what they are making in paypal and other accounts? Nope. More dishonesty. Like a plague.

      And you'd think that yes an Australian or New Zealand company that started in its local market was established to feed Aussie or Kiwi babies, otherwise why would they be selling locally at all? Yes they are about making a profit but they were doing it with local people, because that was the priority.

      Sadly the rate at which land and companies who are part of the food supply chain are more and more frequently being sold to the Chinese (plague) isn't slowing, this will be our undoing in the future which won't be stopped for fear of being labeled racist now.
      Take for example VDM Company who was sold to China, this is not in the best interests of this country and its people, there have been many others fall to this situation, all potentially taking food away from local mouths.
      Do you think that if there are shortages in the future a company owned by the Chinese are going to want to help local people in the country they bought the production center from? Nope, Chinese do not do any form of charity for anyone, especially anyone that is not one of their own.
      Australia (actually the world) should not become China's food bowl.

      I'd like to see all Baby formula bound for China (or most of Asia, India etc) seized at Aust Post (and other out bound freight companies) and then returned to the supplier for inspection for tampering before being re-supplied to local Aussie shops.
      Do this enough and you would find they'd give up when the people who have paid the Daigou come asking for their money back.

      • Daigou you saw in supermarket is just a fraction of the whole oversea baby formula selling. They are just small players who pathetically need to go to supermarket to carry all the baby formula and earn their living.

        All the big players they directly get supply from the baby formula company or from the supermarket and then sell to China. They don't need to physically go to supermarket and buy from there.
        This plus the baby Formula directly exported to China by baby Formula companies contributes the majority part of the baby formula shortage.

        If the baby formula companies abandon oversea markets and stop selling formula to the Chinese distributers (located in Australia), then you won't have any shortage at all. Will they do that? No they won't. Why? because business is business.

        "And you'd think that yes an Australian or New Zealand company that started in its local market was established to feed Aussie or Kiwi babies, otherwise why would they be selling locally at all? Yes they are about making a profit but they were doing it with local people, because that was the priority"
        You seriously believe that? Ask them if they are willing to cut half of their revenue and stock price in order to meet local people's need first.
        The market here in Australia is 25 million people and the market in China is 1.4 billion people.
        They are still selling the products in Australia because they need to maintain their brand and Aussie milk is their selling point at overseas.
        You know what is the Aptamil level 4 formula price in China? It is 69 Australian dollar sold from Official Aptamil Chinese website.

        Don't get me wrong, I totally empathise the situation. In the past (even nowadays) when Chinese was poor, the companies in China they sell the best quality products to foreigners with priority. Why? because they can make more money by selling those products to foreigners instead of meeting local people's need first. So it became funny many Chinese go to Japan and other countries to buy high quality products. Those products are made in China but are not supplied in China.

        So, you can add your personal emotions to Baby Formula and I understand you. But to those Baby Formula companies, business is just business.
        They also sell Baby Formulas in Australia and they kept silent because they don't want someone to throw bricks on their windows while they are making big money. Now their strategy is working, they are winning all the money and Chinese Daigou is taking all the blame.

    • If there's soooooo much going to China from these big companies, why do daigous make so much money?

      • why do daigous make so much money?

        How much may one make on reselling this item? WaterMark's post seems to suggest that it may be below the Australian minimum wage ($18.93).
        https://www.ozbargain.com.au/comment/6790803/redir

        https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-06-01/australian-minimum-wa…

      • You can easily find articles online:
        https://www.fool.com.au/2017/08/09/should-you-invest-in-thes…

        The strong selling of their products in China can double or triple their stock price in just one month thanks to the strong demand of their products in China and the increase of their sell there. If you look at a length of 5 or 10 years since their product started to be known and wanted in China, you can see an astonishing trend of matching up with their stock price. Their share worth ten times more compare with 7 years ago.

        The market in Australia has always been stable, then what contributes the most to their stock price? Oversea market.
        If you are the stakeholder and company owner, please tell me how you are going to do the business?

        Sad truths:
        1. the baby formula companies are not there to feed Aussie baby, they chase profit for their stakeholders.
        2. In the past Aussie could easily get great baby formula with low price does not mean they just deserve it. It was simply because the baby formula companies could only sell baby formula in this limited market. Unfortunately now they find a bigger market, Chinese market is 50 times bigger than Australia, so the game has changed.

        Also, you can easily find the baby formulas companies' official Chinese website and they are selling their products there. Make your complaint to them and ask them stop selling their products directly in China and supply Australia market first. I will be very happy if this happens because I live here in Australia and one day I will have babies here so I also want to easily find affordable baby formula.

        daigous is only the the tip of the iceberg, however they are not the real problem. News reported them impressed you, but most(98%) of the Daigous, they are not wealthy, and wealthy Chinese won't do such things.

  • +2

    Hmmm this debate tells us
    1) Something needs to be done for these poor frustrated parents with baby dependant specific formulas.
    2) The generalizing of all chinese are rude like saying all indians are smelly or all caucasian are fat or from convicts descendants unfortunately.
    3) The migrated* or at mainland chinese needs to change their image/mentality.
    That might be another 100 years when the baby boomers and gen xyz passes away leaving the new chinese gen.
    4) Breast is best….yes but if you are a parent needing formula so its obvious the breast method is out.
    5) Not all mums have breast like Dolly Parton. Breast comes in different sizes and shape ( not that I am a breast expert lol) But I believe women breast especially asian women are normally flatter but I strongly believe its also the food and size of the women. This slim fit age will change the shape of most womens body.
    6) Hatred will not provide a solution but it surely creates more hate.
    7) Words with no action…will equates more words.
    8) The breastmen has suddenly appeared in the forum.
    9) Its f%@kin New Years Eve!

    Cheer up everyone! 2019 will be the best year of Ozbargain and may our pockets never gets empty.

    HAPPY NEW YEAR 2019 everybody!.

    Thank you ozbargain for this wonderful site.

    • Sorry asian womens, I meant smaller….not flatter.

      "Small and humble" like shakiras

      Hope my wife doesnt read this. Lol

    • +1

      10 . As long as the law book doesn't say you can't do X, then you can do it. Free market. For example, you can be on a 6 figure salary and legally have free food from the salvos. Willing giver, willing taker. Nothing illegal.

      • So you're saying no matter what it is, as long as it's legal, you'd support whoever is doing it no matter what everyone else thinks?

        • +1

          If you check my other comments and your previous comments, you'd see that I've been supporting and up voting your comments. My comment above is just sarcasm…

          • @Ughhh: Oh, I'm sorry :(

        • This debate also tells us they only writing as form of media influence, jealousy and hidden racial reasons since most you dont even have babies. Anything money related = why not me
          The worse ones are recording, cause of how righteous they feel by doing so. Its their way invoking hatred via media

    • +1

      Happy New Year to you and all real OZBargainers too. Not to the socket Puppeteers and Trolls.

    • 2 ..

      Not because I am Indian, but I think body odour was the first thing I noticed when I moved to Aus … the second day after my arrival in oz, I went to CBA to signup for a bank account and there was a rep by the name Young (Korean) , couldnt stand in front of him, probably didnt brush his teeth.. this was in stocklands Merrylands … everytime I get in to a lift I cant bear the smell , maybe because of people not washing themselves and using toilet paper.. cant think of any smell worse than that

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