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I'm ok with this.
Are you ok with free range eggs labelled as such, but we don't what happens behind closed doors since there's no Australian standard.
Caged eggs are not a ‘deal’. Caged hens are the very worst side of consumerism, Ozbargain is supposed to be the very best. Innappropritate ‘bargain’.
Ok, now show your opinions on EVERYTHING ELSE THATS CONSUMERIST, CAPITALIST, AND SUPER CHEAP FOR MASS CONSUMPTION, EDIBLE OR OTHERWISE.
We will be here. Waiting.
I actually studied economics and a master in environmental policy precisely because I grew up tired of the way previous generations have been raping land sea and air.
I now work as an energy markets consultant helping some of Australia’s largest energy consumers switch their electricity contracts to low emissions alternatives (long-term renewable contracts) while also saving them money.
I also very rarely eat red meat, I use ‘shop ethical’ to guide my supermarket purchase decisions, I try always to buy fresh food rather than packaged. I NEVER purchase products with palm oil due to deforestation for plantations, I try to generally have a small footprint and buy most things secondhand when I can, or resell things rather than purchasing new. Almost everything in my apartment other than my clothes, toothbrush, toaster and pots and pans is secondhand.
I also live in the city so I don’t rely on private transport, taking the bus or train to work everyday.
So yeah, I guess I try a bit harder than most people.
I actually studied economics and a master in environmental policy
Uh-huh.
Innappropritate
Sure.
@HighAndDry: I can remember plenty of professors at uni who had absolutely terrible writing/spelling on the fly…. You think just because you get a degree or a masters or a phd that it instantly fixes how you write and spell shit?
(profanity), by the end of my degree I swear my typing got worse. Lately I miss entire god damn words from sentences as I'm typing them, and its so annoying
What a hyperbole. I would say the worst side of consumerism is borderline slavery, and in some cases actual slavery, to produce our consumer goods. And a lot of the time the ones to lose out are kids. Kids in sweat shops making shoes or textiles. Kids in rubbish and recycle heaps searching through and burning waste. Kids harvesting the cocoa beans for hours straight just for our chocolate. Now THAT'S the worst side of consumerism IMO
Why do ppl feel the need 2 complain here, in this deal?
Do all you 'Anti Cage Egg' ppl voice your opinions to the Government or corporate supermarket chains??
Didn't think so…
Has anyone here been to a chicken farm where they produced caged eggs? I did and the images are burnt into my brain to this day. Dirty, dying, matted chickens with almost no room to move. Horrible stuff. Just buy free range, what the hell is wrong with people?
Have you been to a meatworks? Seen how sausages are made? Absolutely any farm for mass consumption?
Have you been to China or India or other places where the labour is so dirt cheap, that every major manufacturer makes something there?
Do you partake in typical modern society? You have phones, TV, appliances?
Even with all that, in modern society battery chicken farming stands out as an outlier in how incredibly unnatural and cruel it is. There is really nothing else done to such a scale that directly compares with current battery chicken production.
It is one of the weirdest practises that is still practises on an industrial scale.
Also on a side note, labour isn't actually that cheap in China these days. Most the real sweat shops have left China and instead are in different SE Asian countries.
Have you been to a free range farm? I hate to break it to you, but they aren't happy chooks on rolling green hills as the packaging implies. Outdoor runs are just as dirty (assuming they're used at all), indoor nesting areas just as crowded, and get used to collecting cannibalised bird carcasses every morning.
If you don't like caged eggs good for you, but don't impose your views on others. I don't shame you for eating fast food or buying sweatshop factory clothes, get off your high horse.
Have you ever seen what happens in a battery farm? The idea that you think treating animals better is an ideal from a "high horse" is pretty funny considering you refuse to even consider the point from your own high horse.
Congratulations.
Any people so against cage - feel free to cite one reference from government or affiliated body, showing what qualifies for ‘free range’.
So many of you complaining, not one source.
Guess what - if you can’t find a source, it means it doesn’t exist. If it doesn’t exist, the label ‘free range’ is entirely worthless.
Ok, so the only bit that has tangible rules is: “were subject to a stocking density of 10 000 hens or less per hectare”
Is that a lot? Not a lot? It’s too late at night for me to do the math and work it out.
Also apparently they have to show this on the carton. I haven’t seen anyone do this…MAYBE one?
Is that a lot? Not a lot? It’s too late at night for me to do the math and work it out.
1 hen per square metre.
Recommended standard suggested by the CSIRO is 1500 per hectare.
Also apparently they have to show this on the carton. I haven’t seen anyone do this…MAYBE one?
Not sure, the eggs I buy are local and about 75 hens per hectare. Sunny Queen has 1500 per hectare on the box. I'm sure it'll be there if you look, bit it'll be as small as legally possible if the density is 10,000 per hectare.
If you scroll to the bottom of that ACCC page you'll see a list of companies that have been fined for misleading claims about free range, so the standards certainly hold up in a court room.
Some things may look cheap or well priced at face value, but it doesn't make them a bargain overall.
Examples:
A fridge that costs $300 with a 1 star energy rating vs a fridge with a 5 star energy rating at $350.Caged eggs.
A product with replaceable/upgradable parts vs one without.
Cheap generic products that break very quickly vs something that lasts a lot longer but costs a little more. There's environmental and overall costs to consider.
Apples & Oranges…
I am a sucker for bargains but I'm prepared to pay a little more for free range.
lets make this the most upvoted deal of 2019 yay!
hay guis am i doing teh troll thing goodly or wat?
Caged eggs don’t belong in 2019. How have they not yet been banned? We’re not allowed to drink a beer down at the beach but shoving 20 chickens inside a 1x1m cage for the duration of their lives is A-OK in Australia..
How is religion still allowed in 2019?
caused a lot more suffering, grief and death than any eggs or chickens
How did Australia allow halal killing to replace far more humane methods of killing livestock in every major abbatoir?
Fact check: Halal slaughter in Australia is ostensibly the same as regular humane slaughter in that animals are stunned before having their throats cut.
The difference is that Halal slaughter employs a reversible stun method (electric shock) whereas regular slaughter involves an irreversible stun (captive bolt or similar). The reason for this is that Halal slaughter demands that the animal not be harmed prior to slaughter.
Some abbatoirs have exemptions where stunning is not required but these are in the minority (2017 estimate was 8 abbatoirs Australia-wide according to the RSPCA).
From your linked article:
Although reversible stunning is far better from an animal welfare perspective than no stunning at all, irreversible stunning is more effective in inducing unconsciousness than reversible stunning and is therefore the preferred method.
So if irreversable stunning is better for animal welfare, why are we using the halal methods of no stunning (at least 8 abbatoirs) and reversible for the rest??
Why aren't the people getting so eggcited about caged eggs also complaining about this halal slaughter every time a meat bargain is posted?
Also it amazes me that in Australia in 2019, we are following a killing ritual promoted by a Middle-Eastern self-proclaimed warlord prophet who took multiple child brides (the youngest Aisha was 6 years old and he was 49) and demands the killing of everyone who does not follow his will.
@aussietivoman: You're aware, of course, that the killing blow in Halal slaughter is performed in basically the same manner as how we've been killing animals in Australia since forever?
In predominately Muslim countries it's performed without any stunning, so that's a concession that Muslims in Australia have made so that they adhere to the laws of the country while keeping the actual slaughtering blow the same and acceptable to their religious requirements.
I haven't read much of the Quran, but I'm pretty sure that Mohammed didn't mention anything about stunning animals with electric shocks prior to killing them. Given that, you can rest easy knowing that we aren't following his rituals.
So if irreversable stunning is better for animal welfare, why are we using the halal methods of no stunning (at least 8 abbatoirs) and reversible for the rest??
If you read the whole article, it's because states provide exemptions (which are opposed by the RSPCA). Still far away from your original assertion that Halal slaughter happens in every major abbatoir in Australia.
@Pantagonist: Mohammed didn't mention electric shocks, but it is Halal, meaning its in accordance with his wishes.
These changes were made in abbatoirs some time ago, to appease the local vocal minority of Islamic worshippers and also to meet export market requirements.
The pre-Halal methodology WAS NOT THE SAME.
Of course the Halal methodology must be reviewed (at a cost) and endorsed (at a cost) every year. Also Islamic slaughterers are preferred so non-Islamic slaughterers are an endangered species.
Where that Halal money goes has been the subject of a lot of investigation. There is no doubt some ends up funding Islamic terrorism.
@aussietivoman: Electric stunning isn't accepted in all Islamic countries as it's not widely accepted as adhering to the correct slaughter process.
Do you have any stats for the breakdown between abbatoirs in Australia that use electric stuns versus other methods? I can't find anything from an impartial source.
Do you have the same issue with Kosher products? No stunning whatsoever is acceptable for those.
As for Halal funding terrorism, there was a parliamentary enquiry back in 2015 that wasn't able to find any credible links to suggest that happens. Happy to read any conclusive evidence that you have to the contrary.
@Pantagonist: They held a parliamentary inquiry into the conduct of the Commonwealth Bank before the Royal Commission.
The inquiry found CBA had nothing to answer for.
Shows the value of parliamentary inquiries.
ASIO will not comment either way.
https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/blogs/piers-akerman/why-ha…
One of the largest certifiers, the Halal Certification Authority, sends large sums to the global Islamic charity Human Appeal International, which was listed by the CIA as a conduit for terrorist funds 19 years ago and was banned in Israel seven years ago for channelling funds to the terrorist organisation Hamas. HAI also sponsored two visits to Australia by a violent Islamist named Tareq Al-Suwaidan, who was banned from the US and Belgium for his vicious anti-Semitism.
was banned in Israel seven years ago for channelling funds to the terrorist organisation Hamas.
Apology issued and damages paid by The Jewish Chronicle following allegations made in 2012.
I'm well aware that these organisations aren't perfect, but tying them directly to terrorism is a bit of a stretch.
@Pantagonist: Nomad do you read the stuff you link to?
Halal slaughter under the Australian definition includes no stun slaughter (8 abbatoirs per your article) and reversible stun slaughter (everywhere else in Australia now).
The RSPCA article says that irreversable stunning is better for animal welfare, yet we dont use irreversable stunning for cattle in any major abbatoirs now thanks to Islamisation.
So all the lamb and beef we eat is Halal certified. It may not say it on the plastic wrap, but it is….
Hard to believe we are returning to the Dark Ages….
reversible stun slaughter (everywhere else in Australia now).
Where does it say that?
Within seconds of entering this box, an operator stuns the animal. With sheep or pigs, this may be an electrical stun. With cattle, this may be a captive bolt. Both devices are aimed at the brain. Pigs may also be stunned using carbon dioxide. This stunning process ensures the animal is unconscious and insensible to pain before being bled out.
and
For poultry, including chickens, ducks, turkeys and geese, they usually arrive the night before slaughter and are stunned using a water bath with an electric current.
To me it seems that abbatoirs are using a variety of methods and choose the ones that work well for them rather than trying to adhere to religious standards.
With Halal you're also supposed to have a dude there to shout something related to God before the animal gets knocked off. Can't see too many abbatoirs having one of those on the books if they're not also sticking a Halal certification on the product.
@Pantagonist: Last time I checked pork was off the menu for those that follow Islam (at least officially). So is alcohol too.
So we shouldnt be looking at halal certification of pork products anytime soon
Bear in mind the Lindt Cafe attack in Sydney was motivated by the fact Lindt refuses to pay the Halal tax.
Last time I checked pork was off the menu for those that follow Islam (at least officially).
Exactly, but we still stun pigs with electricity in some cases. What's with that, eh?
Bear in mind the Lindt Cafe attack in Sydney was motivated by the fact Lindt refuses to pay the Halal tax.
Searched "Man Haron Monis Halal". Found an article with some dude from Britain First in the UK making that claim without any further proof.
A large amount of seemingly unfounded social media speculation has suggested that the Lindt Chocolate Café in Sydney was targeted because the Swiss company is not Halal-certified.
If we're into conspiracy theory territory now, I'm out.
@Pantagonist: To sell meat into Islamic markets (the middle east, Indonesia, Malaysia, etc) you must have Halal certification.
All of the meat you buy in the supermarket is Halal certified as a result. All the abbatoirs that have anything to do with export meat (which means every single major one in Australia) must be halal certified. Therefore they use halal methods of no stun or reversible stun.
I am anti all religions.
Just amazing and scary though that Islam has imposed religious rituals on the slaughter of all the meat we eat in Australia. We pay fees for that privelege and Muslim men get jobs in the abbatoirs over non-Muslims as a result.
The other religions have a lot to answer for as well, but aside from Kosher, at least they dont force us to have blessed food and pay a religious tax for the privilege….
I suggest you do some research into what a dimmi is.
Basically all non-Muslim Australians who eat meat in Australia are dimmis….
Just amazing and scary though that Islam has imposed religious rituals on the slaughter of all the meat we eat in Australia.
It's not happening, as I've demonstrated.
If you can come up with evidence to the contrary in response to the articles I've linked to, great, I'm happy read them.
I tend not to shift my views after hearing anecdotes based on a sample size of 1.
@Pantagonist: You have demonstrated that 8 abbatoirs use non-stun methods.
You have also demonstrated that to gain Halal certification you must not use irreversible stun.
Both of these are clear in the RSPCA article you linked to.
I am telling you, and Barnaby Joyce would confirm it, that ALL major abbatoirs in Australia are Halal certified because the Islamic demand is too great - we are talking billions of dollars of Australian meat every year.
So if they are Halal certified, they can't be using irreversible stun.
Which means we are inflicting unnecessary cruelty on the animals we slaughter here, plus paying a religious tax to do so.
I suggest you do some research into what a dimmi is. Basically all non-Muslim Australians who eat meat in Australia are dimmis….
The only dimmis I know are dim sims. Unless you're talking about dhimmis, which doesn't apply to anyone in Australia if the first line of the Wikipedia article is to be believed.
A dhimmī is a historical term referring to non-Muslims living in an Islamic state with legal protection.
Last reply from me.
I am telling you, and Barnaby Joyce would confirm it, that ALL major abbatoirs in Australia are Halal certified because the Islamic demand is too great
Barnaby Joyce hasn't said it, and it's the type of thing I can imagine him getting excited about.
So now we're up to your opinion plus you verballing a politician.
I think you need to go to bed.
@Pantagonist: You are the one living in the ACT.
Anyway enjoy the Halal tax and remember you paid it the next time we have a terrorist attack….
@aussietivoman: What does me living in the ACT have to do with anything?
"Halal tax" claims already dealt with in a previous news.com.au article I posted.
It's no more of a tax than any other non-government certification stamp that appears on our food. Think Heart Foundation tick, Certified Organic etc. etc. I despise Curtis Stone but I still shop at Coles from time to time even though some of the money I pay goes towards paying him for advertising.
If your claims are correct about every major abbatoir in Australia slaughtering using Halal methods and those that aren't certified doing it in secret, you must be a vegetarian, right?
Anyway, not sure what any of this has to do with the price or origin of eggs. Do you buy free range or cage? Would assume the former seeing as animal welfare is high up on your list of priorities.
@Pantagonist: The whole point is these bleeding hearts don't want caged eggs. They whine and moan about it, and try to stop others enjoying them.
But are happy to eat cruelly killed beef and lamb in the name of Allah without complaint.
Some abbatoirs have exemptions where stunning is not required
So less halal because religion?
@HighAndDry: More halal and kosher, not less.
The exemption allows them to follow the inhumane ancient rituals of slitting throats of animals without any form of pre-slaughter stun applied.
You actually and unironically used [Current Year] hahaha.
come on really ? please don't kid yourself that buying caged eggs is all good. These animals are mutilated, live with broken bones, are so close together they cant turn around, they stand in their own manure and never see the light of day, ask yourself should anything live like this and try to enjoy eating a caged egg if you can do this then there is something wrong with you!
Eww
Member since 2013
Zero deals posted.
Eww indeed
Are you really judging someone on how many deals they have posted?
That's pretty sad mate.
A little hypocritical for you to judge in your comment.
Why are caged eggs less yellow than free range?
Also negging for unnecessary cruelty.
For anyone who are ok with caged eggs, presumably you know what these conditions are.
Put yourself in their position and see if you are good with it, realise how lucky you are as a human not chicken or any other caged animal for that matter,The very least you could do is make it better for them and its not hard to do, wouldn't you want this for yourself ?
Lets move on from this absurdity of caged eggs.
Hmmm yes, sorry but I think as with many subjects 'Ignorance is bliss' applies to this area - in that many folks actively avoid the truth behind caged eggs, so that they can feel a lil more easy about saving a few dollars when buying them. IMHO a lot of the 'anger' that comes from folks posting against these deals is that alas many people don't want the cutrain pulled back on them - despite knowing 'whats behind it'.
I've been on both sides of this argument thought-wise and once you really know chickens, what the cheap caged egg business really entails etc it's very clear cut (IMHO for any reasonable person) that at best it's a cruel and unempathetic practice ONLY done to get eggs as cheap as possible - all other elements are ignored. For such a small marginal saving I think thats something many would happily avoid supporting.
THAT SAID I do think many on the pro-animal side feel so passionately about the cause that they go over the top which ends up being counter productive on many folks - my mother is HORRENDOUSLY bad with this and it sh&ts me to tears.
IMHO provide the info - perhaps question why people feel the way they do i.e how much suffering in intelligent animals is viable to save you $x? A lot of folks will always have zero empathy towards this - it's best positive energy is spent on the larger undecided masses who can be swayed by intelligent, balanced discussion - not telling them they're bad people or using an overly aggressive approach.
All eggs are the product of death. Even free-range, soy-latte sipping, quinoa fed chickens. All male chicks are killed at birth because they don't suit our needs.
If you can stomach it there are videos on youtube of day-old chicks being fed into a blender. By buying eggs you are paying for this to happen
Come on. Is a chicken spending their life in a cage really worth the $2, and is it really worth promoting?
Admins, this really needs some clarification. Is this site "Ozbargain" or "Ethical Ozbargain".
Everyday there's a ton of deals on Ozbargain which could be disputed/negg'd over ethical or political reasons, but unless the items are prohibited (e.g. Ivory) then down-voting a bargain based on personal views due to some peoples current political views is ridiculous.
If people don't like Ebay or Caged Eggs then they show this by leaving feedback and not purchasing.
I am starting to think these kind of bargains are posted just to start this kind of arguments. It’s old news
Improving the conditions that farm animals live in is hardly political.
What, are you going to say that climate change is a political problem next?
People post deals to free audio lectures by people that think gay people should be killed on here. Is that fine with you too? Wanting farm animals to have a better life is hardly a negative thing. You say people can show that they disagree with it by leaving feedback - that's exactly what they are doing.
Your time could be spent improving society.. Instead you're having a whine that people aren't happy that chickens live an entire live in their own faeces and never see sunlight. Maybe time to think about your own priorities rather than save a few dollars on eggs eh?
Poor chickens. Anyone that actually buys caged eggs should just look up battery farming.
ALL chicken farmers do
Emma Hurst says practicing maceration in hatcheries means that there’s cruelty attached to every kind of egg you buy in the supermarket - even free range.
“[Consumers are] funding this whenever they buy eggs. This hatchery supplies battery, free range, organic, barn raised chickens. It’s something that’s inescapable no matter what label of egg you buy.”
and why would you need to be 100% vegan to value the lives of animals?