Gaming Computer: i7 8700 RTX 2080 8GB 240GB SSD 16GB $1649, I9 9900K RTX 2080ti 11GB 240GB SSD 16GB $2999 @ eBay Techfast

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  • +24 votes

    What an awful case.

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      I was thinking the same thing!

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      .
      This is the trend now instead of glass on one side now it's Front, Top, Back as well with lots of RGB lights with a remote control

      Not hidden under the desk anymore these sit on top !!

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        Yes I've noticed the trend towards buying lights rather than compute power.

        Could it be that some trend followers are foolish?

    • +1 vote

      Ya.. I think I would have bought this if not for the case..I thought the case was just open for showcasing but looks like this is the actuall case.. n not sure of the mobo

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      not a gamer right?

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        GAMER

        Not my cup of tea looks wise, but if it's good on the thermals and practical to clean it's 2/3 of the way to greatness

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        I turn off all the lights I can when I'm playing a game. I find that when i'm playing, having a discotech just to the left of my field of vision is distracting.

  • +7 votes

    These are getting out of hand. I don't even need a new computer but i'm still struggling to resist.

  • +6 votes

    wtf is that case

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      I can't tell what is going on with it. Is it on an angle??? (I put cases under a desk so I don't really care but that's quite odd!)

  • +16 votes

    9900k and a b360 mobo? That's not ideal.

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      I thought this too. If you are spending the money for a 9900k and 2080TI you're gonna want a decent ASUS motherboard and reputable power supply.

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        Probably Gigabyte from what I've read (for the superior VRMs) but yes, B360 is an awful pairing. And the micro-atx version at that.

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        Why Asus? Many of their boards had bad reputations recently

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          No need to downvote, he's right. Their Z390 line is a letdown compared to previous gens from what I've read.

          • +2 votes

            @fLaMePrO: They had vrm/overclocking problems to my knowledge.

            This is from someone who's had plenty of ROG stuff. I steered away for internals this time.

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              @scuderiarmani: Mm, they've dropped the ball recently. Their vega cards were awful, 20 series lacked a few thermal pads I think (why they decided the few cents from thermal pads was worthwhile I don't understand) and their Mobos (at least AMD ones) were lacking in terms of VRM.

              Just stupid little cost cutting you'd expect from someone like gigabyte, not the bunch demanding such a premium.

    • +1 vote

      9900k and a b360 mobo? That's not ideal.

      There's a very small performance differences between this chipset and any other chipset that isn't overclocked, assuming the same pcie lane usage.

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        Having looked around, potentially a 9900k on a b360 is about the same performance as a 9600k on z390. VRM's overheat and your 9900k throttles at as little as 70c.

        If you're investing in a 9900k, you need to invest in the mobo as well. Or just split the difference and get a cheaper CPU/Mobo set up.

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    Is that an open Case?

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    What is the specs of the mobo of b360? Does it have m2 slots and how many ram slots does it have? Does anyone have any idea?

  • +9 votes

    I find this so annoying when 3k computers come with only 240gb storage. I know its not hard to upgrade, I would just expect when I spend 3k it should be ready out of the box

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    Dammit, I totally would've bought the i7 over the r5 I got two weeks ago. Oh well! I did pay about $200 less, which is nice.

    • +1 vote

      Ryzen might be better in the long run when you upgrade. Given you have a decent mobo, the new gen Ryzen chips will be compatible with the current Mobo but the new Gen Intel may not be.

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        Good point. I think I've not mentally moved on properly from ten years ago when amd were bad. Time to get with the times!

  • +1 vote

    I had been waiting for a techfast deal for a while but while the computer alliance sale was on I ended up buying everything for a 2080ti build for around 3100 with all parts.

    Full credit to techfast for offering such great prices systems.

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      what cpu did you run?

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      Same CPU as above?

      Better case, psu, ram and storage?

      I'm just interested in whether you were able to build a better system for an equal price after 20% off computer alliance.

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        I didn’t go with i9, i7-9900K, msi gaming trio x 2080 ti, rog strix mobo, EVGA 750w g2 PSU, Corsair dominator 16gb, kraken x62, Samsung 970 SSD 1tb, 2 tb HDD and a h700i case.

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          *9700k

          But yeah. Something like $300~ less I think ($500 compared to $800?)

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          Mate that's a beast of a machine. I built from CA about 8 months ago, 8700k, 1080ti, 16gb 3200 ram, 500gb Samsung 970 m2, hxi 750w platinum psu, air cube case, noctua d15 cooler. Came in around 2400. I don't regret it, but I have a boner for your setup.

          Well done to both CA and techfast, catering for people who do and don't want to self build at what seems like razor thin margins.

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            @ozbjunkie: Thanks dude. I haven’t built a PC in 10 years and thought why not go all out, got a decent bonus from work to spend on it.

            Your set up still pretty great by today’s standards, mine will just be slightly better haha.

            Yeah I was kinda shocked at how much it all costs, obviously you look at prebuilts from scorptec, mwave etc and to get a 2080ti system your looking at 4K plus.

            Now just gotta wait till tomorrow for it all to arrive and will be built for the weekend.

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              @kylej126: 3 grand well spent I reckon.

              Everyone deserves a favourite toy.

              And also up, computing as a hobby is pretty cheap worked out on a hourly basis (compared to mountain bikes, travel, Skiing, etc).

              Enjoy the monster rig!

          • +1 vote

            @ozbjunkie: Yeah, CA are absolute saviours for DIY builders in Aus. Techfast are awesome for those just looking for a pre-built system.

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    Operating System: Not Included; see PC Upgrades section below

    Primary Drive: 240GB Solid State Drive

    Storage: Not Included; see PC Upgrades section below

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      Ubuntu + Lutris is pretty good, or so I've heard. I can't get Lutris to work though. :(

      On my Ubuntu machine, all native Linux games work fine. But only a handful of my Steam Windows games work.

    • +2 votes

      Comes with unactivated windows 10 I think. Cheap keys on ebay for something like $10.

      Storage description should be updated, I think every PC from them comes with some basic level of storage.

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    Would be good if they specifically say which GPUs they will be using. The top end 2080 ti is $800 more expensive than the bottom end one. Given the price tag it is most likely the cheapest possible one.

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      I think I remember them saying they were using the Galax GPU

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        Well, they claim the following in the listing: "Galax, Biostar, ASUS, MSI, Colorful - all used as often as each other"

        But you can get $1700 MSI 2080 ti, at the same time you can get a $2500 MSI 2080 ti with more CUDA cores and a higher clock rate.

        Personally not familiar with the Galax range and cannot comment on that.

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          It'd likely be the budget lines of each. Just assume it'll be the "worst" (they're all effectively the same if you aren't going for super high overclocks, just thermal differences) and if it's better you'll be pleasantly surprised.

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          More CUDA cores? No. Factory OC'd maybe, but those numbers are meaningless with GPU Boost, just get the coolest/quietest card you can afford and that will give you the best performance.

          • -1 vote

            @conza: I guess my use case is different to most others as I will be using the card for machine learning and AI, so the more CUDA cores that the higher end models offer makes a ton of difference. As far as I can tell GPU Boost is just dynamic clocking on demand, which is a pretty straightforward task to automate if you're already touching code anyway.

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              @sep1: There is no difference in CUDA cores amongst the RTX 2080 TI models, regardless of the price. They all have 4352 CUDA cores regardless. The RTX Titan has more CUDA cores but is over double the price. You're mistaken.

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      It'll definitely be from the cheaper ones, no ROG strix's/lightning cards for this price :P

      Probably the MSI ventus, gigabyte (whatever their model is) or something from Galax/Zotac/Inno3d (but I'm not sure on the last 3).

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    That. Case.

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      It's a tad tacky, but if I'm right with there being no tempered glass at the front it probably performs pretty great thermally without modifications.

  • +1 vote

    Purchased one of the cheaper systems from these guys before. The case was very cheap and tacky. They didn't wire up the RGB strip. Had to choose whether to wire this or the reset button as they shared the same cable. The Biostar RX580 was unusually slow - more than 1000 points slower in 3DMark than a reputable Gigabyte or Asus. I'd only purchase this if you're pretty cluey about PCs and can do it up yourself.

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      They didn't wire up the RGB strip. Had to choose whether to wire this or the reset button

      Reset button?

      The Biostar RX580 was unusually slow - more than 1000 points slower in 3DMark than a reputable Gigabyte or Asus

      What about benchmarks outside of 3dmark? What clocks is it running at?

      Maybe check with CPU-Z to find out if it matches up with the general 580 specs. If not contact their support (don't think Luke's back yet).

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        Normally in cases with an RGB strip there are three separate buttons - power, reset and RGB customisation. The cheap case techfast used only had two buttons. So the front panel reset connector could either be used for RGB customisation or reset. Both functions cannot be available simultaneously. Either way my reset connector wire was left disconnected so neither function was enabled.

        I've already resold the PC so can't test with CPU-Z etc

        I suppose a bonus is that techfast had deleted the 3dmark folder with activation key but forgot to empty the recycling bin. It was easy enough to access their 3dmark activation key by restoring the file from the recycling bin.

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      There is no reset button. That button is there so you can cycle the RGB's

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    What is it? A Gaming Point-of-sale?

  • +2 votes

    B360 + 9900k is like putting e10 in a Ferrari

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      I'd definitely go for the 9700k. Still a bit high for that type of board, but it'll be the most optimal choice for most looking at this tier.

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      and presumably a shitty 750 watt allied psu, so you need to spend more to upgrade to a good brand. shocking case. who thought it was a good idea to pair a 'k' processor with a board that doesnt allow you to overclock

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    Awfully tempted with the i7 system, but it needs a more demure case and 16gb ram. I'd like a deal with the screen and keyboard too.

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    So is this any good or not? I thought it does come with 16gb RAM. Is it ok to pair the B360 with the i7?

  • +3 votes

    Used pcpartpicker for the system similar to the 9900K cost around $3090 with better components overall (or at least you know what it is), it is even cheaper when the 2080ti is on sale, sub $3000 is totally possible. The i7 system is OK but the i9 is a meh. With a proper motherboard, that 9900K can boost up to 4.4 or 4.7GHz all core, power consumpition are around 190 or 230W respectively, but with this unknown motherboard, I'm not sure it can hold up with intel spec before throttling.

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    OKAY THIS is so tempting. I said this last time but I'm about to buy it but do I need to change anything?

    The case whats the point of the fans if it has that big space on the bottom?

    also do I need to change PSU, motherboard and other things like the other builds?

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    Do not buy the 9900k machine, you'll need to do a motherboard swap to get the best out of the 9900k, a B360 board can't overclock, no details given on the 2080ti, so it'll be the cheapest, hottest version, pumping heat into the case for the 5 120mm mystery fans to deal with.

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    I saw CA was part of click frenzy, might be some bargains to be had

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    Every time there is a TechFast deal, I have to keep repeating to myself "wait for the Ryzen 3000 series, wait for the Ryzen 3000 series…"

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    I finally bought the the 8700 build.. was wondering if the 3200mhz 16 GB from the Amazon deal works in the mobo.. and I would really want to change the case

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      Nope, unless you upgrade to z370 motherboard, B360 can only run at 2666 MHz maximum.

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        Damn it.. I think I will try to sell the ram or just return in to amazon.. I'll have to upgrade the mobo later in the future.

  • -1 vote

    The seller doesn't have good feedback, just like the case :)

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    Got a techfast from the last deal, stoked with it so far!

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