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Yapapi on 25/05/2019 - 09:35 adanifacts.com.au (12249 clicks)
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      • Wilder94 on 26/05/2019 - 17:56

        3 years ago lol

        • RecklessMonkeys on 26/05/2019 - 19:34
          -1

          should I lol at what you say because you're older than 3 (presumably)

      • [Deactivated] on 26/05/2019 - 18:02
        +1

        So if Australia became a zero emissions nation, what effect would that have on the total global emissions?
        Like would it affect the global impact at all?
        My problem is that until China/Russia/USA and 3rd world industrial nations do something, our efforts are literally pointless. Or 99.9995% pointless in helping climate change?

        • RecklessMonkeys on 26/05/2019 - 20:01

          There are a stack of countries who emit less nominal CO2 than us. If we do nothing, they could rightly ask 'why should we do anything?'. The sum of all these smaller emitters starts to add up to a significant amount.
          The other aspect is that we export CO2 via our coal exports. It isn't consumed here, but it does originate here. It doesn't count towards our emissions, but we still provided it. Hence the argument to leave it in the ground.

    • knackers on 26/05/2019 - 18:01
      +6

      Your numbers are off. Australia, with 0.3% of the world's population, produces 1.3% of the world's greenhouse gases. And why is Adani important? opening up the Galilee basin will unleash cheap dirty coal onto the developing world(China, India). If all of the Galilee Basin coal was burned, an estimated 705 million tonnes of CO2 would be released each year.

      • [Deactivated] on 26/05/2019 - 18:03

        Thankyou for the numbers. Can I ask where you got those numbers so I can look for myself?

        • knackers on 26/05/2019 - 18:07
          +1

          PM sent

    • GunnerMcDagget on 26/05/2019 - 22:09
      +2

      It's a complex and difficult issue. As a whole, Australia only contributes 1.3% of the CO2. But we produced more CO2 per person than any other major emitter (including USA, India and China)

      The other thing to take into account is that our coal is exported to some of those major polluter countries. But they're going to use it regardless of where it comes from. But if we don't provide it then it forces them to focus on greener technologies. But much of our coal exports are used to build wind farms. But coal accounts for 51% of our exports and without it our economy would collapse…

      It's a complex issue. Problem is that people work on the extremes. The logical position is that we need some coal mining, but people lean toward extreme amounts of coal mining or no coal mining altogether.

  • lainey13 on 26/05/2019 - 18:34
    +3

    I really need to get to the Great Barrier Reef before Queensland destroys all their natural beauty…

    • jv on 26/05/2019 - 19:58

      Is there coal in the Great Barrier Reef?

  • smileyface on 26/05/2019 - 19:19
    +1

    “Adani’s Carmichael Mine is 350Ks from the Great Barrier Reef”

    Where do you think the coal GOES? Google “Qld Coal Port” FFS!

    • jv on 26/05/2019 - 19:59
      +1

      Where do you think the coal GOES?

      you saying it goes into the reef?

      • JediJan on 27/05/2019 - 22:48
        +2

        One assumes someone who has not seen Abbots Point let alone the fleet of ships waiting to be filled. So we wait until the inevitable happens then? Don't worry then; most all the dugongs are dead by now anyway.

        • jv on 27/05/2019 - 22:53

          So we wait until the inevitable happens then?

          Like when a dam from a hydro system fails ???

          • JediJan on 27/05/2019 - 23:05
            +2

            @jv: Or a tanker spills oil on the Great Barrier Reef.

            Murphy's Law.

            • jv on 27/05/2019 - 23:10

              @JediJan:

              Murphy's Law.

              lol…

              • JediJan on 27/05/2019 - 23:30
                +2

                @jv: They all pass the reef. Increasing the odds of it happening doesn't help. More likely a case of when not if.

                • jv on 28/05/2019 - 00:24

                  @JediJan:

                  Increasing the odds of it happening doesn't help.

                  There are also things they can do to decrease the odds…

                • jv on 28/05/2019 - 00:26
                  +1

                  @JediJan:

                  More likely a case of when not if.

                  Proof ?

                  or just making stuff up ?

                  • JediJan on 28/05/2019 - 01:09
                    +2

                    @jv: Attended a meeting approx 30 years ago at which the risks to the reef were discussed (this was only one of them). No, I did not retain the minutes! It is not an unknown concern anyway; nothing to make up here. Increasing the traffic cannot possibly reduce the risks. Perhaps it is useful are bringing this to the fore; perhaps there are some that have not considered this.

                    Some multi-national companies operate on the thinking that benefits outweigh the risks. We don't need an Exxon Valdez situation on our reef. The only real way to decrease the odds is to reduce the traffic.

                    • jv on 28/05/2019 - 01:56

                      @JediJan:

                      Increasing the traffic cannot possibly reduce the risks

                      Maybe ready up on risk management and learn how you can actually also reduce risks…

                    • jv on 28/05/2019 - 02:03

                      @JediJan:

                      We don't need an Exxon Valdez situation on our reef.

                      Neither do the Adani… That wouldn't be good for business. It's in their own interest to mitigate risks so it never happens.

                      • JediJan on 28/05/2019 - 16:34
                        +2

                        @jv: Nice to know you trust Adani to be concerned about risk mitigation. The banks and the Indians don't trust Adani for many reasons.

  • paulinspace on 26/05/2019 - 20:57

    Who would be stupid enough to walk around in this t-shirt. Bit like wearing an i hate blacks or i hate gays t-shirt. Just asking for trouble.

    so knock yourselves out snatching them up.

    i might order some for cleaning rags. waste someones money!

    • GunnerMcDagget on 26/05/2019 - 22:01
      +2

      That's the flaw here. The understanding of the process.

      As the post below says. Polticially it has become a left wing/right wing issue. Either you support coal or you believe in climate change.

      The facts are a lot more complex than that. Man made climate change is a real thing. Combating it is more difficult. Denying it causes problems is the wrong thing to do morally, but closing all mines also causes problems because it takes a lot of coal to build renewables.

      So a mine isn't automatically bad but it's not automatically good. If the coal is used to build an array of solar panels and wind mills then the coal mine would actually be good.

      That said, Adani is a mix of corruption and problems. But I still up vote this deal 'cause free shirts for the homeless is a good thing. Just ask them to wear them inside out.

      • scupper on 27/05/2019 - 13:00
        +3

        Giving them to the poor is like supporting slave labour. They might be thankful that they have something, no matter how unequal the trade is. You would be making them advertisers for Adani, or you may be influencing them (or the people who see them) to be pro-Adani eventually, it is advertising after all.

        If you support the poor, support them properly, not by throwing them what is essentially garbage.

  • menocheapsk8 on 26/05/2019 - 21:43
    +4

    It's disappointing that an important issue like climate change has become tied up in the bs of our two party political system. People who argue against climate change seem to oppose it purely because they think this is some stupid right vs left battle of wills. Showing someone the facts just makes them dig in and argue louder. It's disappointing.

    The only reason thermal coal is still cost effective is because the negative externalities (emissions) of burning the coal aren't accounted for. It's like if we allowed nuclear power plants to dump spent fuel without storing/reprocessing, or businesses to discharge polluted waste water into rivers without extensive treatment.

    Just because you can't see it (or don't understand it), doesn't mean it doesn't exist. The science exists whether you believe in it or not. Ignoring the objective science of anthropogenic global warming and the acidification of oceans through elevated CO2 levels is not a solution, it's like treating a cancer by saying you don't believe in it.

    I don't think stopping this mine will do much to reduce global emissions by a significant amount, but it's a start. There are still many engineering challenges to overcome to remove other major sources of greenhouse gas emissions (coking coal, transportation fuels, agricultural emissions). We need to reduce our emissions, the longer we take the harder it will be.

    • dec1an on 27/05/2019 - 17:31

      Well said

  • jjayoen on 27/05/2019 - 01:51
    +2

    Free* T-shirt - worst trade off ever
    *everything bad with this project

  • Porco Rosso on 27/05/2019 - 08:23
    +3

    No deal! They are trying to spread propaganda by giving out free t-shirts. The truth is everything about Adani is bad for Australia and for a matter of fact their own country India too.

    • Danstar on 28/05/2019 - 13:37

      Say that to the miners

  • loginid on 27/05/2019 - 11:03
    +2

    I see no bargain here..

  • utopia on 27/05/2019 - 13:47
    +5

    1 Tshirt, probably effectively paid for from a govt handout. Keeping Australian old tech jobs with no future.
    What a waste of opportunity, so much wind and sun, Australia could easily be a world leader in future tech, and keep the population relevant. But no, pander to the coal belt ….and wonder why in 5 years time when the world have moved on we have gaping scars , compromised water , decimated tourism and non relevant work force. Clearly it's a good deal

  • AssociatedAllyF123 @ adanifacts.com.au on 27/05/2019 - 13:53
    -1

    Hi Yapapi! The deal has now expired. Would you mind updating your post please?

    • JDogman on 27/05/2019 - 15:08
      +1

      Still available on the website mate.

      Seeing as you're associated, maybe you should edit the website to say you've run out or remove how to claim the deal…

    • Yapapi on 28/05/2019 - 10:03
      -1

      Just wanted to say thanks. Huge fan, looking forward to wearing my #StartAdani t-shirt with pride.

      • brendanm on 30/05/2019 - 13:24

        I have a feeling you will be abused in the street.

        • bxpressiv on 30/05/2019 - 14:22
          +3

          'I respect everyones views………..that align with mine.'

          • brendanm on 30/05/2019 - 18:27

            @bxpressiv: I didn't say I'd be abusing anyone, and I wouldn't, but I'm sure some people feel pretty strongly about it.

        • Yapapi on 31/05/2019 - 12:12

          Doesn't bother me. Nice to be clear about who the tolerant ones are in this debate.

    • blighst on 29/05/2019 - 17:39

      Haven't heard back from you guys, does that mean I won't be getting a pack?

  • Geekomatic on 27/05/2019 - 14:03
    +2

    Eventually, YES, we will run out of the horrible (convenient) fossil-fuels. The issue with maintaining them is that it's at the direct expense of R&D of renewables. In three or more decades, solar panels haven't changed (much)> why is that, do you imagine? Every other piece of "tech" is smaller, cheaper, and more efficient….except most renewable energy. In those same, three decades, we haven't created any way to store that energy??? C'mon, people!

    When we had a windfall of LPG, this is what happened: https://www.smh.com.au/opinion/how-australia-blew-its-future…

    IF Adani or anyone comes in to continue the pillaging, AU will NOT be the "winner"— unless a barren landscape, NO water, and a filthy/dead reef is what you mean by "winning"?

    https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2019/may/23/cfmeu-wa…

    Adani ALSO plans to steal over 12 BILLION litres of water from AU! PS: NO there will not be "jobs", unless you're a programmer. All of the old-school mining jobs will be automated—- from INDIA.

    But sure, let's point outside of AU and pretend we're not culpable nor on the same planet….good grief.

  • inamberclad on 27/05/2019 - 15:36
    +2

    day 3 - there's enough energy going on in this thread to power SA…!

  • artfin on 27/05/2019 - 15:57
    +1

    This post is sad.

  • Yapapi on 28/05/2019 - 09:32
    -1

    Wow, we OzBargained Adani

  • Danstar on 28/05/2019 - 13:36
    +2

    Maybe we should ban volcanoes from erupting too

  • rifter on 29/05/2019 - 08:52

    And ban cows from breathing.

    • Danstar on 29/05/2019 - 09:59

      From pooping you mean

      • jv on 29/05/2019 - 12:56
        -2

        No, they use up precious oxygen. We must protect our oxygen.

  • askme69 on 03/06/2019 - 21:35
    +2

    The figures don't add up: https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2019-05-23/the-ma…

    Poor QLDers if it doesn't go ahead and they voted the LIBS in.

  • crazyboy on 07/06/2019 - 13:02

    Got my T shirt and one sticker today. I think I ordered XS or S but they gave me M, which is pretty big.

  • Yapapi on 12/06/2019 - 10:53

    So excited, got mine today. Quality shirt. Thanks Adani.

  • ozozoioi on 13/06/2019 - 14:15

    Queensland government gives final approval for Adani mine plans

    enjoy tshirts

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