Just noticed a clearance special on the 3.5" OCZ Vertex 2 120GB drives @ PC Case Gear.
Price certainly looks good, and the 3.5" form factor is handy for those that don't have the ability to easily mount a 2.5" in their case.
Next cheapest on staticice - $214.50
http://staticice.com.au/cgi-bin/search.cgi?q=vertex+2+120gb&…
I don't know whether this is an awesome deal or not, but $200 for a 120g ssd sounds pretty good. All the bad press around OCZ and the 25nm process seems way overblown.
it is way overblown, I own one of these and have purchased another 4 through work and they all are very fast.
Are the 3.5" models affected? I thought they were still using the older 34nm chips.
Yeh, I'm pretty sure only the 'E' series are affected, which this model apparently isn't.
Considering the model and size, it's quite possible this is older stock anyway, which is a bonus considering the reports of the 'new' stock.
Look like this model is affected. Check out the "Part Number" section, the finepint says: "* 120GB IDEMA capacity is 115GB".
So it should be marketed as 115GB version as suggested by Chris from Tom's Hardware site.
What's the read/write speed on this?
fast/fast, but not as fast as 34nm.
click on the link, it's on the front page.
The Corsair Force Series 3 have just come in stock and at an extra $69 for almost double the performance, its a bit of a no brainer. Alternatively the OCZ Agility 3's are only an extra $59
http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&c…
Good price, 3.5in kinda sucks though, wouldn't use a 120gb for my desktop.
And if you can't mount a 2.5in, grab some duct tape. :)
Agreed. I really don't know what they were thinking making 3.5" SSDs.
the 2.5 in ones come with a 3.5 in bracket, so the 3.5 in version is pointless…
not always, i had one that come without the bracket.
can't remember which one anymore.
I use 120GB for desktop.
Its not a storage drive anyway.
AFAIK a 480GB SSD is ~$1600 and its still not enough for storage anyway.
My main computer is running XP SP2 on it's original 2001 80GB Hard Drive (that was massive at the time LOL), and even 10 years later it's still is less than 1/2 full! Only apps on there, storage elsewhere except for standard Documents and Settings (desktop, email, etc).
So, for normal usage a small drive liek 120GB is all you'd need (and want, since SSD isn't really the type of place you'd store important stuff anyway)
Looking at this, its definitely the 25nm unless PCCD has really old stock. Ive been in search for the 24nm models however have not found any. Even tho it is alot slower in comparison to the old drives in benchmarks however in real life performance you won't see a big difference
performance wise, is it worth getting this or the crucial one?
Average HDD speeds are around 80-100MB/s.
This SSD is around the 200-250MB/s.
The Crucial deal one is 400-ishMB/s.
Realistically though, I'm not sure if you'd notice that much of a difference between them in real world situations… If you have the $$'s get the best.
if you want to compare, then look at the OCZ Vertex 3, compare apples to apples…
what's wrong with comparing SSD to SSD? :S
SSD to SSD?
comparing a second generation SSD to a third generation…
the current Vertex's are series 3… the one above you are using to compare is series 2…
like comparing IDE and SATA
Considering the original question asked….. Or is reading too much to ask?
Certainly can't compare to decide whether this is a bargain.
But definately worth comparing to decide if the vertex 3 is a better deal for you.
Real world differences are probably quite small, despite the numbers. But the vertex 3 isnt twice the price either.
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SSD failure rate is more than 5%. My experience is DO NOT keep any important data in a SSD.
Sandforce 1200 is way higher, 25%+. I was an owner and wise enough not to keep anything of value on mine.
The controller is a piece of crap (fast, but unreliable).
Read newegg.
they're still more reliable that HDD's…
Everyone has different experiences. I'm sure someone will come along and say they have 10 vertex 2's and no problems.
Me personally? Not since the 8-20gb quantum fireballs have I had a HDD die. I've owned maybe 30 hard drives over time. I have had ones that sounded like they had the click of death from the word go - I blame courier damage. The result is I always buy HDD's from a local store, never posted.
Everyone has different experiences.
it's not just about experiences, it is generally accepted in the industry that SSD's are more reliable than HDD's… sure there might be the odd problem or two now and then, but in general an SSD should and will outlast a HDD…
my retail friend told me 1 of 15 ssds will be return for the warranty. ocz and corsair have even higher rate.
my retail friend told me
wow, that's a definitive source…
my retail friend told me
wow, that's a definitive source…
I'd take anecdotal evidence, from a retailer over ".. generally accepted in the industry .. " any time.
It really isnt industry accepted.
The concept is based on nand life (the number of write cycles plus the spare area). But in reality it isnt the nand thats dying, its the controllers.
Intel SSDs are good. Allegedly Samsung's are alright now too. But averaged across the board, there is more trouble than with HDDs.
With regards to the above comment, ocz and corsair are pushing sandforce drives. Thats why.
Info from Nov-Dec 2010:
Intel Gen 2 ~2%
Marvell (C300) ~4%
Sandforce ~15% failure rates, higher with some brands
Indilinx Barefoot ~10-50% failure rates depending on the brand
Theres so much crap on the net you can fiddle with the numbers a fair bit. But not by enough to make sandforce or indilinx barefoot look any good. This data was from the storagereview forums, and is enough for a rough idea.
Both of my OCZs are Sandforce 2s and they aren't dead yet.
I must be pretty lucky.
My old G2 Intel SSD didn't die either.
i've had mine for a couple of months now and it's fine… it's the 2.5" though…
Before you buy, might want to read the article on OCZ's apparent switch to the 25nm process and how it affects drive performance and the usable amount of storage capacity on the drive:
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/ocz-vertex-2-25nm-ssd,28…