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Might be a good deal for a 2060 Super card. Unsure about how it stacks up against AMD
MSI Nvidia RTX 2060 SUPER VENTUS OC $635.20 + Delivery @ Futu Online eBay
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Yeah AMD is good for gaming at this point.
The only justification for nvidia currently is RTX, which personally I'm not a fan of at this performance point (really need 2070S/2080 tier for good 1080p60fps) and ML, which most people just won't do.
Cooling CAN be an issue if you're packing in a small case.
Some people will talk about driver support etc. I haven't experienced this gen so can't comment.
I also take freesync over gsync due to cost.
The latest RTXes support FreeSync now so it's not that bad.
RTX, DLSS and even GSync are going the way of PhysX and 3dNow. Unless you have a 2080ti and want to play at 1080/60 with it enabled on a handful of games. It's a massive performance hit on a 2080s/2070s/2060s.Who wants to spend $600+ on a card to play at 720p with RTX enabled to have effects you won't really notice in an FPS.5700XT is a better buy at a similar price point, considering it's close to 2070s.Since Nvidia now supports Freesync is there a point to the GSync price premium.
Yeah really loving AMd
Assuming, of course, you aren't fine with the reference card.
Because tmk the reference has dipped below 600 with these deals.
Might be? It's either a deal or it isn't.
Yea, yea, nah on the 2060 super.
I think the 5700XTs are widely considered a much better buy at a similar price.
Just waiting for AIB boards' prices to come down first, now only MSI Evoke 5700 XT is reasonably priced, but I wouldn't touch it with a 10 foot pole due to the thermal pad issue
it all depends what you're in for, xt5700 run hotter, chewing more power. As far as I'm concerned, electronics and heat don't match, the cooler something runs, the better. Not convinced with AMD's graphics card being a better buy. The only thing AMD's got running for, its cheaper, a sacrifice in quality. However, the MSI Ventus accourding to reviews, runs hot with loud fan's. Hence the price, I guess. I wouldn't even touch it with 20 foot pole
Have you even looked at the reviews. In an Anadtech review the 5700xt blower version only consumes 26w more than a 2060 super. The 2070 super consumes 26w more than a 5700xt blower version. 26w is inconsequential.Do you even have proof of the failure rate of the 5700xt to say that they lack quality because they are cheaper.
@shellshocked: I have no idea where you get your power consumption from, but
XT 5700 https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/amd-radeon-rx_5700-rx_5…
2070 Super https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/nvidia-geforce-rtx-2060…
and this is 7nm vs 12nm….kinda speaks for itself…
@xcornx: Just go to their Anandtech 5700 review. Tom's Hardware lost their reputation after their "Just buy it" article.
https://www.anandtech.com/show/14618/the-amd-radeon-rx-5700-…
5700 XT 2070 Superhttps://www.pcmag.com/compare/369808/amd-radeon-rx-5700-xt-v… 225w 215w
https://graphicscardhub.com/rtx-2070-super-vs-rx-5700xt-vs-r… 225w 215w
https://www.digitaltrends.com/computing/amd-radeon-rx-5700-x… 225w 215w
https://www.game-debate.com/news/27373/amd-navi-rx-5700-xt-v…
225w 215wthat's just what I found tying in xt 5700 vs 2070 super power consumption, 2 min research. there's is probably 100s more. And then there is the noise, the temperature difference and as mentioned, 7nm vs 12nm (which in my eyes is the biggest joke on AMD site, they had to feed more power to compete with the 12nm cards). I leave you fanboys here, buy whatever your heart desires. by the way, I own a 2080 super and couldn't be happier.
The partner cards all run cool - some exception being the gddr6 on MSIs much and evoke cards thanks to shoddy thermal pd application.
The reference is a blower, anything north of the 1660 is just to much for a blower to be able to cool reasonably compared to dual/tri fan cards. That said, undervolting the cards appears to - as with the past 7 gens of AMD reference cards - work wonders with cooling. Worth a shot considering how cheap they are.
The gigabyte model runs around this I think, and there's a single store selling the pulse at exactly what it should be after the 20 percent off.
Still a decent bit over reference seeing as they drop crazily cheap with these deals, but in the range of reason.
My eyes popped wide open at this price thinking it was a 2070 S. Then I realized the 6. T_T
I think I'll be going for the 5700 XT next week.
https://www.gpucheck.com/gpu-benchmark-graphics-card-compari…
A quick and dirty list of gpus, ranked by performance.
I have this card (got it for $595 on eBay) and I don't find it at all loud and that's in an NZXT H210 case.
5700XT AIB boards are around $700 (Best I could find was $685) so not sure why people are comparing it to the 2060 Super which I got for around $100 less.
Have had my MSI 2060 Super Ventus OC for a week now, very very impressed with this card. The Ventus is very quiet at idle and even when under moderate load (despite not having a 0rpm 'Twin Frozr' fan), that I can now hear other noises I hadn't noticed before lol.
Needless to say it's been a BIG step up from my 970, so much so I wasn't going to overclock. But hey, that lasted a whole day before I decided to give it a go lol!
Anyways, I used Afterburner's OC Scanner to look after the Core clock, and then manually adjusted the Memory clock to a safe level. Core clock was bumped to +210Mhz by the OC scanner. Memory was bumped manually to +1000MHZ.
One thing I've noticed is at 100% fan speeds, this card can get quite loud – but I've only ever seen it at 100% when I have forced it manually. It certainly is louder at full throttle than my old MSI GTX 970 Gaming 4G, but not drastically so.
When overclocked, playing Control with settings bumped up sees temps rise to 75-77C after 20 mins or so and stabalise. I notice the clock shuffles up and down slightly, but it does not seem to affect FPS (GPU Boost 4.0?). I should point out that this card is installed in a m-ATX case and I'm in NQLD – so load temps would be lower in a cooler climate with a larger case.
Here's my Time Spy result with my i7 4790:
https://www.3dmark.com/spy/8541218
Certainly no CPU bottle necking going on at all which is good. My result is equal top position for this card (single GPU), regardless of CPU. :)
It doesn't really. You can pick up a 5700XT for similar money which gives performance of another tier.
It's a hard place for nVidia, being between the 5700 and 5700XT.