Not really a deal as it is always going to be here but starting tomorrow Mcdonalds will have McVeggie Burgers, Deluxe Shakes and Frozen Coke NoSugar starting.
McVeggie burgers are not vegetarian/vegan, they contain egg and are cooked in the same vats as chicken!
To my knowledge, this is victoria only right now but could be other states soon but not sure
ah we're gonna get into the old Maccas vs HJ's debate, but in the plant realm
The Plant Realm
is that from HJs?
Yep. I’m just saying. If anyone wants a comparison. I’ve done it. And McD veggie patties wasn’t very nice at all. I struggled to down it
I havent tried the veggie burger yet, but, arent the rebel and a veggie burger 2 completely different things?
Yes they are. Rebel is beef-style and McVeggie is chicken-style.
Plus McDonald's and Hungry Jacks have their own style too.
is the rebel burger cooked on the same grill as the normal whoppers?
cos thats cheating…
You have to request a clean grill if you are adverse to that. Still not necessarily cheating for those who just don't want to kill cows for a burger I guess.
Isnt this yet to be launched?
Had the rebel whopper yesterday, pretty good. First impressions - the smokey meat flavour is obviously fake when you first start eating it, but by the time you're in the middle it's almost indistinguishable from a real whopper with all the other ingredients mixed in. I'd eat it again.
Frozen Coke No Sugar
Whoa game changer.
Yeah, thank god.
Never understood why frozen drinks are packed with sugar when they just taste like artificial syrup anyway.
My son has type 1 diabetes so is only allowed the sugar free drinks. the kids have a thing that goes in the freezer to make your own slushies at home. It works with all the sugary drinks but we have not been successful with Coke Zero nor Pepsi Max, so there is something about the sugar, or maybe the fake sugar is partly antifreeze!?
we have not been successful with Coke Zero nor Pepsi Max, so there is something about the sugar, or maybe the fake sugar is partly antifreeze!?
interesting… might be saying something about artificial sweeteners
@Andard: Both of those use sweetener 951, which is likely (studies are always going on….) The worst of them.
If you're looking to see if its the artifical sweetener, try LA Maxi Ice, it doesnt use 951, so if its that, you'll soon know.
Also look into the dietrite brand, they're not entirely sugar free but they're extremely low, and so many less chemicals (by percentage)
@MasterScythe: Did you neg me because you already tried this with your Son and it didn't freeze also? Please let me know.
The sugar is what makes slushies slushue
It's about time! Hopefully it tastes okay!
Absolutely, I think 7-11 dropped the ball on this one, they should have struck first with the no sugar slushies!
My local 7-11 in QLD has no sugar slurpees
Same here - although I think they have changed the wording to 'low-sugar'.
I imagine they've fiddled with the formula somewhat recently to add maybe a little sugar - perhaps because those things were potent laxatives. I can have as many of these new ones as I want, but I remember buying the largest size of their sugar free back when it first came out right before a long car trip… I had to stop at every toilet along the way…
@ngengerous: Yep, "less than 5%" is whats in their 'zilched' range.
Quite an improvement.
50g per liter, is a lot less than 50g per 600ml bottle.
@MasterScythe: Agreed - it's made me choose 7-11 instead of McD or HJ up until now, but if they can offer no sugar at McD I'll be swinging through the drive-thru there instead.
@ngengerous: I prefer the idea of a 'mix'.
Less sugar, and less artificial.
We know both are potentially bad in excess, so have 'less of both' is my thinking.
@MasterScythe: They changed from Zilched to Low Sugar. Is it the same? It tastes and feels very sugary.
Been waiting for that.
So what's the point in making it if it's not vegetarian that's your only market for these lol
Some people only care what they eat, using "the same grill" didnt kill an animal.
The egg industry is responsible for the slaughter of billions of chickens. These contain egg so your argument is invalid.
I prefer to eat vegetarian food, but still consume meat. Flexitarian if you will. I guess I'm in their target market, so shaibankek your argument is invalid. Also vegos eat eggs, vegans don't.
But really, this vegetarian on the same grill shit is a bizarre move.
@jesseboy89: How is my argument invalid? My response was to the guy who said "using the same grill" didnt kill an animal." There's egg in the patty which means animals were killed so having the idea that "cooking the patty on the same grill didn't kill anything" is pointless.
@shaibankek2: Cooking on the same grill doesn't kill an animal though.
And eggs don't kill an animal. But you should be asking if it's free range (like the current rspca campaign). Unless you think that egg = animal. Perhaps you think zygote = human and abortion is bad?
I'm trying to do the right thing and eat far less meat. Don't put me out for the slaughter with your shit.
@jesseboy89: You're missing the point. I'm not saying cooking on the same grill doesn't kill an animal. I'm saying it's pointless to have that ideology stuck in your head when it's in direct response towards a patty that has egg in. You're just being ignorant at best.
@shaibankek2: Eggs are vegetarian. Animals are not killed. The eggs are unfertilised. This is vegetarian.
It's just a wierd product because many vegetarians will not like the fact it's cooked on meat grills.
@jesseboy89: Male chicks are all slaughtered in the egg industry because they're unable to produce eggs. Additionally there's all the egg laying hens that are kept in confined spaces in disgusting conditions where they're susceptible to disease etc. Once they're at the point where they can't lay anymore they're unprofitable and are slaughtered. So don't you lecture me about how there's no death involved. You're just being ignorant.
@shaibankek2: Lol my mate buys these chickens from an egg farm 400 at a time then after a month roaming his property sells them to Chinese people at local market, pays $1-2 a bird and gets like 8-10 back
Animals are not killed.
Apart from chicken's flesh no other food item is responsible for more intentional warm blooded animal deaths per year than eggs.
Vegetarian food may or may not contain eggs. Vegetarian food that contains eggs doesn’t make it any less vegetarian.
I don't get why they'd bother making a veggie burger if it isn't going all-in on the vegan stuff.
Because PR
With this they only need to get some frozen veggie patties, whereas to make it vegan they need to get vegan condiments, vegan cheese, a vegan patty etc. Much easier and cheaper for them to just do the bare minimum to look like they are doing something.
Making a frozen veggie patty without egg really isn't difficult. If they had any brains whatsoever they'd at least offer a vegan patty that's cooked in the chip fryer like what Hungry Jacks offers.
They are selling vegetarian burgers and not vegan burgers. Foods that contain eggs may still be considered vegetarian food.
Lol
I wonder what is in the Deluxe Shake?
its hot fudge with shake and then flake garnish then whipped cream then more flake garnish
Any idea of how much it will be?
… about 20 billion calories
So basically Hungry Jack's deluxe shakes with less flavour options?
CAN YA ADD DINNERBOXES TO THE APP "TO SHARE" SECTION PLZ
OP is it for all states? veggie burger sounds good, couldn't give a rats if it's cooked in mcchicken oil
pretty sure that this is in some other states already but this is for Victoria
Put it in the title then.
Vegans are angry people.
McVeggie burgers are not vegetarian/vegan, they contain egg and are cooked in the same vats as chicken!
Point to highlight for all those happy vegans/vegetarians out there.
Eh who cares. It's not actually contributing to the harm of that chicken that was in that chicken burger. Same with cooking a burger on the same grill. Some people don't care if there's contamination.
Depends on the type of vegetarian whether to include eggs.
Usually thats vegan.
Taking unfertalised eggs out of my chickens nesting box (on a 6 acre property) so that foxes and snakes dont 'wander in', isn't very cruel.
Nothing against vegans and vegetarians, but when you can 100%confirm its cruelty free, i dont get it.
Quick preface: none of this is personal attack or my personal view on the matter.
It's generally the breeding process that would be considered not vegan in this situation. How many chickens were forced to create those chickens giving you the eggs? If you have rescued these chickens then you might just be fine in some vegans eyes. Then again you are keeping them as a pet…
@Holty07: I dont think building raised boxes to sleep in, and letting them free in the yard is really 'a pet', they can leave if they want.
Just so happens, chickens seem to stay where the food is.
they are still vegetarian, byproducts aren't considered meat
There are different types of vegetarians out there. Some don't eat it for religious reasons and for those even using the same grill makes it non-vegetarian.
i can't seem to find it on the internet anywhere for this release, any links to a page available?
its just been told to employees right now im pretty sure
oh i missed that sorry! That's good enough for me :)
Great. I'm now waiting for McTegridy Burger ACT stores only I guess.
Does HJ cook their vegan patties in the same grill as meat stuff?
yes i believe so
Only the rebel. Their regular are cooked in the non-meat ones.
The normal veggie pattie is cooked in the same deep fryer as chicken nuggets if nothing's changed since I worked there 18 years ago
@groook: According to hungry jacks statements they are cooked in a separate fryer.
Here's one: https://www.facebook.com/HungryJacks/posts/10157927055263378
As per OP, this is not a deal.
Am I missing something here? If this is RRP, it belongs in the forums.
Nope. Not missing anything. First four words are literally "not really a deal".
No deal. Promo for crappy fast food…
what is the price normally for this burger, how much bargain we are getting?
Usually costs $6.10 so about 100% of $0 bargain
No deal. Not a bargain. Usual price. Just advertising!
Veg: "Give us a veggie burger"
Fast food: McVeggie, Rebel Whopper
Veg: "I asked for a vegan patty"
Fast food: "It is"
Veg: "No I want a seperate grill"
Fast food: …
Veg: "actually make it a different store too"
Fast food: Introducing our first completely vegan mcdonalds
Veg: "but not in a food court, because I don't want to see other people eating meat"
Fast food: standalone store, are you happy now
Veg: "why isn't there any vegan options when I'm at the shops"
Yeah, I can see this going full circle.
There's egg in it so how exactly is this relevant at all?
I'm saying about how they keep trying to please their customers and each time they do something they expect more.
These vegetarian/vegan activists want them cooked on a separate grill. What they don't realise is how prohibitively expensive and inefficient that is. Even so, it's going to be just centimetres away from meat, and meat gives off an aroma while cooking. What's next?
Sealed cooking chambers.
@Slippery Fish: For meat and vegan patties, plus seperate preparation stations (which have to also be sealed) etc?
It is 100% vegetarian but not vegan as has egg in it. How it's cooked is irrelevant.
Also been available in SA since last year as we where the test state. It's in the elmaco range also.
OP states “Not really a deal” - so why is it here? Should be in the forums. Stop junking up our feed with this crap we have been seeing posted over the last couple of days!
Exactly. This is even worse than those stupid Pokémon items
McD's in Germany released a vegan burger last year. Perfect for travelling on the autobahn on Sundays when most supermarkets are closed.
https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/food-and-drink/mcdo…
Nice work mods so everyone can put up there normal all day menus?
So many dumb inconsistencies on the site !
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Curious how these deluxe shakes compare to Hungry Jacks.
If you want to be a vegetarian, eat vegetables instead of a burger.
my chicken, lamb, pork and beef are vegetarian. Stupid fish not so much. Oh well.
Vegetables taste better between two buns.
Not really a deal as it is always going to be here
I agree… This is normal price. There is NO saving.
Personally the rebel burger is way nicer