[Unobtainable Deal] Holden Final Run Out Sale: Trax ~$13,000, Equinox ~$20,000 + More

SupeNintendoChalmers on 19/02/2020 - 15:38
Last edited 10/03/2020 - 11:53 by 1 other user

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The Holden Trax city SUV is almost half price, with discounts ranging from $10,000 to $11,000, bringing this $23,990 model to the bargain price of about $13,000

The mid-size Holden Equinox is also a flat rate $10,750 off, or about a third off the price of the base model, bringing it from a bit over $30,000 drive-away to close to $20,000 drive-away.

The Holden Acadia seven-seat family SUV is between $11,500 and $17,000 off, between a quarter and one-third off the price of the car.

The cheapest discount is on the Holden Commodore – $7500 off – while the Astra hatch and sedan that were also discontinued last year have a flat rate of $8500 off to about $12,000 drive-away for the base models.

Additional Info (Thanks Techie4066):

Discounts on driveaway costs. All stock in remaining dealerships is expected to be depleted well before the end of 2020, with some dealers expecting to close by the end of financial year (June 30). Expected discounts from the start of March according to dealer bulletin (subject to change):

Holden Colorado (ute) - $13,000 to $17,500 off
Holden Trax (small SUV) - $10,000 to $11,000 off (down to ~$13,000 driveaway)
Holden Acadia (large seven seat SUV) - $11,500 to $17,00 off
Holden Commodore (liftback/tourer/sportwagon) - $7,500 off
Holden Astra (hatch/sedan) - $8,500 off (down to ~$12,000 base model driveaway)
Holden Equinox (medium SUV) - $10,750 off (down to ~$20,000 base model driveaway)

Opinions vary on these vehicles, but do jump on them if you have been in the market and are happy with what's available. Holden will provide servicing and spare parts for the next ten years (through a national aftersales network), ongoing call centre support, will issue recalls where necessary, and will honour existing warranties, guarantees and free scheduled servicing offers.

Mod: Article/bulletin lists the prices as drive away, but the pricing is not final and may be subject to change. As always, the deal may be removed (unobtainable) in the future, if it does not go ahead as (or close to) advertised/listed. Minor changes will be updated.

Mod: The deal become largely unobtainable. See comments. Moved to forums.

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    • syousef on 19/02/2020 - 16:14
      +18

      Basically you shed tears, and start looking for a new car.

    • Charity on 19/02/2020 - 17:09
      +2

      Just take it to the dealer that won't exist :D

    • ProlapsedHeinous on 19/02/2020 - 22:24
      +4

      Just call up their disconnected toll free number

  • blueyez on 19/02/2020 - 16:00
    +5

    Very tempting. I'm looking for a new car and was willing to spend up to $10k on something second hand.

    For a few thousand more brand new… is it a trap LOL

    • Nalar on 19/02/2020 - 16:04
      +1

      I'd like to know that too.

      Say I was going to buy a 2015 Mazda 3 sedan for around $15K

      Why not buy a brand new Trax for same price?

      • John Kimble on 19/02/2020 - 16:08
        +23

        Because a 2nd hand Mazda 3 is still better than a brand new a Holden Trax?

        • SupeNintendoChalmers on 19/02/2020 - 16:22
          +2

          a 2015 Mazda 3 is out of warranty though

          • brendanm on 19/02/2020 - 16:38
            +3

            @SupeNintendoChalmers: It's still better than a Trax. Hell, a 2005 Mazda 3 is better than a Trax.

            • Nalar on 19/02/2020 - 17:42

              @brendanm: What about the Astra hatch? also garbage?

              • brendanm on 19/02/2020 - 17:43

                @Nalar: No idea, I think I've seen one on the road ever. Never worked on one or driven one. I think for $12k or so, it's at least a German thing, not a horrible rebadged daewoo, so wouldn't be a terrible buy.

                • resisting the urge on 19/02/2020 - 18:03
                  +1

                  @brendanm: I've seen a few, the older ones were all Golf copies. The newer ones look like Golf copies too (but I haven't looked underneath their skins).

                  A German copy is better than an Asian one, but there is no limit to how screwed up GM has become in the last decade, so anyone wanting a hatch might want to check out what owners (and any repairers) of the new model are saying.

                  I drove the first Astra in Oz, a German 2 door manual SRi, for a week. It wasn't bad in comparison to a Golf GTi, but you wouldn't buy one over the VW. At a 30% discount to the GTi… you might be thinking hard.

                  Things stayed the same since then, market penetration failed as GM has enough trouble designing/producing a decent model let alone marketing it. They just don't know what people want in almost any market these days

                  At a 50% discount, "sunsetting" brand, limited support, a long but fast evaporating warranty… hmm

                  Which is made worse by the rumour that Chevrolet will exit the Au market also, given the word going around about RHD production stopping too.

                  • FBI on 21/02/2020 - 11:27

                    @resisting the urge: Would you buy an Astra or a Trax if this deal is true. A nephew working for a Holden franchise said this deal is not true. Many thx

                    • resisting the urge on 22/02/2020 - 18:11

                      @FBI: Oh I don't know. Astra looks fine to me, but I've not seen this new one so do your research. Would be the safest buy out of the entire line-up as they are popular in Europe. Whatever you do, don't touch an SUV that is designed to a market price, let alone one that at the premium end at a bargain price point. The third model Tiguan is the only possible option from an engineering perspective, but I'd rather be steering a Golf out of a collision, than a Tiguan, and if push comes to shove, survive a hairy collision too as they don't roll like things that sit >50mm higher with weird weight distribution.

                      Trax looks like it might do cartwheels if you ever have to brake hard downhill, roll sideways in big winds, and not survive a strong suburban speed swerve. Best advice is probably to give yourself a chance surviving common driving mistakes, and get something proven to be safe and reliable, not hopefully designed to meet a segment who just want something new.

    • Kontiki on 19/02/2020 - 16:14

      You basically have no resell value. So OK if you plan to drive it for the next decade or longer. If it's just a car for the next 5 years you are better off getting a reputable brand and sell it later on.

      • John Kimble on 19/02/2020 - 16:17
        +7

        But after 10 years you'll have to service it yourself with parts you've printed from your 3D printer. :p

        • Merlict on 19/02/2020 - 16:24
          +15

          You wouldn't download a car..

  • jmel on 19/02/2020 - 16:01
    -2

    how about recalls if it happens? no thanks

    • Techie4066 on 19/02/2020 - 16:02
      +2

      Read ^

      • bobvegas on 20/02/2020 - 10:48
        +1

        interesting

  • sltsta on 19/02/2020 - 16:03

    many ppl said "The remaining workers will stay on to service Holden's ongoing warranty commitments for at least 10 years…"
    I still don't believe. Where is the money come from to pay all those ppl salary for 10 years?

    • Merlict on 19/02/2020 - 16:06
      +6

      GM is spending over a billion dollars to wrap up Holden, so they pay.

      • syousef on 19/02/2020 - 16:16

        Sure there won't be any cuts there once the company is wound up. What's the government going to threaten them with if they don't honour that and shut early? You're not allowed to trade here anymore?

        • aragornelessar on 19/02/2020 - 16:34
          +3

          Exactly - and they won't care if the Holden brand stops selling.. because that's the whole point!

          • resisting the urge on 19/02/2020 - 18:14

            @aragornelessar: That billion is probably mostly debts they racked up whilst lobbying both parties for taxpayer funds, before grinding their gravy train into the ground.

            Anything else is just about selling the stock they already have, so they don't have to dump it into another RHD market along with all the other stock they're dumping to avoid going out backwards, which they surely/probably may once the dealers are running low on stock and the liquidated products are all returning for free servicing and warranty repairs

        • Smigit on 19/02/2020 - 18:46

          There is no guarantees. As soon as GM runs into financial issues or has a bad day in the stock market, and they were already bailed out this decade, cutting cost in markets they aren’t selling vehicles in will be right at the top of the list of things they do to be seen as saving operational costs.

    • Techie4066 on 19/02/2020 - 16:06
      +2

      GM. Pulling out of right hand drive markets (AU/NZ, Thailand, Japan) is costing them $1 billion US. Enforced by AU Consumer Law here of course. Not sure if servicing will occur at dealers or some aftersales network through established service centres or whatnot.

    • donga100 on 19/02/2020 - 16:06

      Government subsidies?

    • ash2000 on 19/02/2020 - 16:07
      +1

      Most of a dealerships revenue comes from spares and service.

      At ground level it will just be new cars sales staff that will go I initially.

    • Tuba on 19/02/2020 - 17:17
      -1

      All the good people will flee to new jobs. Early on it wont be bad, but the last 5 years (if they honour it) it may be a ghost town absent of talent, but plenty of mindless drones zombying around putting their greasy mits and spittle all over your car.

  • thriftysach on 19/02/2020 - 16:06

    Curious as to see how this affects the used car market for these vehicles.

    • Merlict on 19/02/2020 - 16:06
      +2

      Very badly, haha

  • funnysht on 19/02/2020 - 16:11
    -4

    I bet car dealers won't pass the savings .l

  • pennypincher98 on 19/02/2020 - 16:11

    This is gonna pan out interesting indeed.
    If society was smart, they wouldn't buy until it got reduced further because this is just recouping losses at this point.

    I wonder how low these will go to sell. Or if they'll manage to sell all stock at this price.

    • SupeNintendoChalmers on 19/02/2020 - 16:12

      I reckon they'll probably struggle selling manual Trax

      • No Penny Dropped on 19/02/2020 - 18:18

        Why? It looks like a suped up hatchback :D

        "The girly hatchbacks just got manly" or some crud.

    • funnysht on 19/02/2020 - 16:16
      +1

      wonder how it will reflect prices on carsales.com.au now …grabs popcorn.

  • j0hnd0e on 19/02/2020 - 16:12
    +2

    The real deal are used cars.

    • syousef on 19/02/2020 - 16:45
      -2

      Won't be a bargain if you have to import parts in a few years. There is a reason their resale value is going to be in the toilet.

      • abuch47 on 19/02/2020 - 17:01

        still much cheaper than new cars especially anything at higher entry prices

        • resisting the urge on 19/02/2020 - 18:17

          imported parts can be cheaper to buy than OE ones- esp. for consumers, many import already as local distrbutors/vendors charge like wounded bulls (or dying lions)

          • syousef on 19/02/2020 - 18:21

            @resisting the urge: Yeah sure if a small part breaks, Ebay is your friend. Have fun importing a major part.

            • resisting the urge on 19/02/2020 - 18:22

              @syousef: Part of why they are closing up possibly, lots of spare parts stuck on the shelves instead of making revenue (since they kept 2X-ing the pricing year on year)

    • Charity on 19/02/2020 - 17:12

      I think the owners of the used cars will be so bewildered they won't sell them, and if they do, they will use the Cash Converter's strategy and ask for a price that is more than a new one :D

      • syousef on 19/02/2020 - 19:27
        +1

        I can see the Carsales ads now: "Classic Holden! 'Straya! Football, meat pies, kangaroos & Holden cars! If you don't buy it for $$$$$ you're unAustralian!"

        • abuch47 on 20/02/2020 - 12:02

          be careful to correlate and pass judgement.

  • Joxer on 19/02/2020 - 16:14

    Have they got anything around the $80k mark?

    • funnysht on 19/02/2020 - 16:17
      +18

      yeah, you can buy one of each

    • MysticalWok on 19/02/2020 - 16:18
      +7

      Depends are you looking for an investment with a high yield?

  • Gmetal on 19/02/2020 - 16:17
    +6

    I've worked with the automotive part industry. Its not as simple as people are saying that "They have said they will have service staff up to 10 years so its fine". There is much more to it - car manufacturers are actually a network of suppliers etc that produce both for manufacture. If the suppliers stop producing the OEM parts or they become more scarce - it becomes more expensive to do certain types of out of warranty work for certain models.

    This means that the cars will depreciate more, and if you keep owning it, things will be more difficult. Your warranty may be honored for the next 4 years, but its not perfectly identical to as if GM was'nt getting out of the RHD market - so bear in mind when making a purchasing decision.

    Anyhow, my dream of owning a HSV one day when i have the space is getting so crushed :(

    • R3XNebular on 19/02/2020 - 16:22

      Agree and you can't vote with your money and threaten to never buy a Holden again…

    • netjock on 19/02/2020 - 16:24
      +3

      If you buy an Astra / Commodore it should be okay as they are rebadged Opel.

      If you buy one made in Thailand then might be bad luck.

      Discount is just a up front payment for the massive depreciation.

      • resisting the urge on 19/02/2020 - 18:20

        How do the turbos and plastic bits hold up?

        I'd hate to have to 3D print the cooling system components after 5 years- hopefully the Opel volume looks after supply later on, but the odd item may become impossible, esp as Opel was just offloaded too.

        • netjock on 19/02/2020 - 18:24
          +1

          Opel sold to PSA (Peugeot Citroen) and the volumes are a lot bigger. You could probably get the parts off Ebay in Europe. Probably better availability than Australian built Commodores.

          I bought a pair of wiper replacements in Europe for $5. Where they wanted $15 for one here.

          Weren't that many turbos on Australian built cars because the cars were just unreliable.

          • resisting the urge on 20/02/2020 - 11:43

            @netjock: No turbos on Oz cars only because the market here will not pay any premium for economy, and prefers capacity anyhow. Nothing wrong with Oz engines, excepting production, which never got the investment it needed to wow the world with local product.

            Turbos are a problem as they reduce longevity- are basically a wear item, which loads an engine with increased pressure and heat. The engine won't last as long, and its turbo will fail at some point before that, thus increasing speed to scrap.

            Vehicles now last longer, but if a critical part like the turbo fails half way through, most will be scrapped far more prematurely. Esp the V8s where the turbos are inside the 'v' making replacement so complex that a replacement engine may be prefferable, but at age totally uneconomic.

            • netjock on 20/02/2020 - 13:19
              -2

              @resisting the urge: cough

              1. No investment because it is crap. Why you chuck good money after bad? Why you chuck money at burning more fuel? Having more cyclinders or capacity doesn't make you any more of a man or woman.

              2. Okay. It just makes sense to normal people. Obviously if you are any good engineer then you would design it to last. Why do they have turbo diesels considering diesels have even higher compression than petrol engines. Your argument doesn't hold.

              3. So they make cars that last longer but not turbos. Okay mate. You are brilliant at reasoning. You the same bloke who put the turbo inside the "V" as some kind of a joke too?

              Did you make the short list at SpaceX?

              • resisting the urge on 20/02/2020 - 15:11

                @netjock: Who's a normal person? What is crap?

                Oz has always done pretty well designing and making stuff given the size of the market, and the local preference for large engines that can tow and lazily eat km is still biting them at the showroom. But that doesn't mean GM or Ford produced the best cars ever made here, but they did make some of their best models here. For anyone to run a plant here and make a few globally competitive models is a major feat. Both however deserve to fail as they only stay afloat because of extraordinary efforts made by their local R&D teams. And successive governments making charitable deals with Detroit to keep a manufacturing industry on life-support, since it contributes so little to their interests, unlike energy, real estate, retail and tourism. When Elon setup Tesla, he hired lots of Aussies as they had already developed and tested the foundations of the drivelines Tesla uses to this day. Their cars were blitzing fuel soaked drag strips, esp. in WA, and caused a huge sensation on YouTube for all to see back then. If GM or Ford management were worth anything, they'd have skunk-worked some electric drive-trains here before that, and be manufacturing big time in Asia by now, not trying to keep afloat by forcing ICE on their customers.

                Turbos impact the life expectancy of any engine and have longevity limits themselves, not sure why you might think diesel is any different. The early, low pressure diesels (not just low compression, but low pressure turbos) aren't always bad, but on HE diesels, everything is pushed closer to design limits. Not so much chamber pressures, it's more the induction, cooling and fuel systems. That's why it so hard to find one functional after 20 years, even though so many were produced.

                Diesel has other challenges. It produces pollutants as well as hits physical speed and power limits quicker. To turn fuel into motion efficiently requires electronic combustion control to sense and dynamically alter many things. Not having control over spark makes the engineering effort much more complex. As a result, modern high efficiency diesels are a repair nightmare once they age, or prematurely fail. Their popularity is probably more to do with a misconception that they are diesel is more reliable than petrol (not now) or that they are 'cleaner' or more frugal.

                Just designed obsolescence. Just like how some of the largest companies making them are wearing out

                • netjock on 20/02/2020 - 15:24
                  -2

                  @resisting the urge: Paragraph 1: even with subsidies and best efforts it is still unviable. Some Aussies were hired at Tesla, big deal. A lot of Aussies work in banking in New York and London. Look what happened… (GFC 2008/9) If you are so intelligent why aren't you running Ford or GM? Or you just another arm chair expert?

                  Paragraph 2-3: turbo diesels doing half a million kilometers to a million kilometers. We're just talking about the turbo not about pollutants. Don't bring other problems into this discussion.

                  • resisting the urge on 22/02/2020 - 18:26

                    @netjock: I like my armchair, you go trample everyone and try to get a shot running a corporation. Who knows, maybe you have some of the necessary skillz

                    Km is not the only thing, that's why warranties specify time limits. Plenty of vehicles with 500k around in better condition than others with 200k at the same age. Any well designed vehicle can do 1M km over a decade, if serviced well, and not thrashed. But expect it to be running after two or more decades, that's another thing entirely

                    • netjock on 23/02/2020 - 00:13

                      @resisting the urge: So we are no longer talking about unreliable turbos?

                      You have the typical Australian attitude. If Australia doesn't do it then everyone else is stupid regardless. Exactly the tall poppy syndrome that brings the country down.

                      • resisting the urge on 23/02/2020 - 10:04

                        @netjock: LOL. Just seen damage caused by design and application a few times :-)

                        Parochial attitudes are common in other countries too, but you read too much between my lines to cast any such aspersion. My beef is with our species' ability to reproduce poor design without the necessary innovation after so many decades, not who does it, or where.

                        You kept claiming that aus engines are crap. I said it's more complicated than that, and you start asking why I'm not working at SpaceX and talking about attitude. But clearly you don't know what Holden exported (engines as well as cars). It has never been just about making big 6s and low-tech V8s instead of small turbo cars.

                        Anyhow, the OP is about imported Holdens, not Oz ones. My comment was about their longevity, in comparison to other imported vehicles, e.g. the ones they compete with.

    • [Deactivated] on 19/02/2020 - 20:07

      Get a Stinger

  • Samsungnote10 on 19/02/2020 - 16:17

    so if they discount a new astra down to $12k for example in march
    does that mean you could pick up a demo astra at the dealer for say $10k?

    • SupeNintendoChalmers on 19/02/2020 - 16:21
      +4

      potentially. Astra is very underrated. Very economical and comfortable, has a turbo, but runs on 91RON

      • theg00s3 on 19/02/2020 - 17:02

        Is running on 91RON bad?

        • Charity on 19/02/2020 - 17:13
          +1

          not at all.

          • resisting the urge on 19/02/2020 - 18:25
            +1

            @Charity: 91's a boon; given how much of a premium the Gov lets them charge for premium these days

            • Charity on 19/02/2020 - 18:37

              @resisting the urge: exactly. I used to work for a BP refinery, the cost price difference was about 1.5%, a decade ago. I doubt that has changed much. Except at the bowser :)

              • Tuba on 19/02/2020 - 18:45

                @Charity: If they dumped 91 and made 95 the base std, it would cost the same as 91 to make now. But 98 retail would plummet.

      • theg00s3 on 19/02/2020 - 17:44

        the ~12,000 base model is for the 2019 model, right?

    • Merlict on 19/02/2020 - 16:22

      I'm sure demo prices will be slashed too, otherwise they're going to be stuck with some toxic stock.

      • Samsungnote10 on 19/02/2020 - 16:23

        that would be very tempting, for a run about

        well worth the risk

  • Mahogany Granger on 19/02/2020 - 16:19

    At least the execs will be looked after.

  • funnysht on 19/02/2020 - 16:19

    wonder how much a holden colarado pick up would be ..they're now $40k around.

    • SupeNintendoChalmers on 19/02/2020 - 16:20

      I would bet ~high $29K

    • Ugly on 19/02/2020 - 16:24

      It says in the post - "Holden Colorado (ute) - $13,000 to $17,500 off"

      • funnysht on 19/02/2020 - 16:25

        there are different type of utes, pickup, cab chassis etc

        • Ugly on 19/02/2020 - 16:30
          +2

          Hence the range of $13,000 to $17,500, which I'm guessing is dependant on model, features, etc

  • Maglia Nera on 19/02/2020 - 16:21
    +12

    This is all Amazon's fault 🙃

    • Merlict on 19/02/2020 - 16:22
      +13

      I blame Millennials!

      • mapax on 19/02/2020 - 16:39

        Considering how many of them have applied for jobs at my work and they don’t even have a car license you might not be wrong.

      • djkelly69 on 19/02/2020 - 16:40
        +2

        And the Greens!

        • 8anddrank on 19/02/2020 - 16:55
          +2

          I blame the Boomers for buying so many Toyotas!

          • Wardaddy on 21/02/2020 - 23:22

            @8anddrank: The Camry and Aurion had the most local Aussie content of any car.

        • Jack D Price on 19/02/2020 - 16:59
          +1

          Well, we can basically put it all down to Zali Steggel. Holden, Zika Virus, the tides, all of it. #ScomoLogic

    • CharityCase on 19/02/2020 - 16:52
      +1

      It's Harvey Jerry!

  • funnysht on 19/02/2020 - 16:23
    +1

    the warrantry issue would be the main thing…i had a holden astra, after few years everything breaks down. The sterring wheel, gear knob erodes away like it's just sand

    • resisting the urge on 19/02/2020 - 18:24

      Which one? They had a few Asian models, interior degradation is well known in the Daewoo family

  • RichardF89 on 19/02/2020 - 16:23

    how is Acadia compare with Kluger? Looks like Acadia doesn't have many discounts

    • SupeNintendoChalmers on 19/02/2020 - 16:25
      +1

      I would say the Acadia is slightly better than Kluger, but yes, go for the discount of the century on it

      • RichardF89 on 19/02/2020 - 16:35
        +1

        really? Acadia is slightly better than Kluger. the RRP is similar. I thought Toyota has better value than Hoden(Chevrolet）

        • SupeNintendoChalmers on 19/02/2020 - 16:54

          no, what I'm trying to say is if you can get an Acadia for $30K DA, you're doing well.

          If Holden were staying and we're in a strong position, I would almost certainly go for the Acadia, its a good thing.

          • SBOB on 19/02/2020 - 18:15

            @SupeNintendoChalmers: and if they we're leaving and not, would you still buy one ;)

            Tempting at 30k though

  • dreamscene on 19/02/2020 - 16:26
    +6

    Uber drivers will buy them all up.

    • SupeNintendoChalmers on 19/02/2020 - 16:27
      +6

      the new Brodens

    • funnysht on 19/02/2020 - 16:28
      +3

      good tax offset…

    • Hardlyworkin on 19/02/2020 - 17:20
      +2

      12k astra and rack up the KMs in the first couple of years when service should be ok. I feel like the math would work out if you run up the KMs in a shirt space of time without expectation of selling it for anything thereafter.

  • WingedNike on 19/02/2020 - 16:27
    +1

    Don't get sucked in by the dealer into buying a bunch of dodgy insurances that don't do anything:

    https://www.insurancebusinessmag.com/au/news/breaking-news/a…

    • SupeNintendoChalmers on 19/02/2020 - 16:28

      or the products doled out by (soon to be unemployed) Ming Mole

  • beanlanda on 19/02/2020 - 16:28
    +8

    I’m sorry Holden went bust but they did bring us the Camira so they kind of deserved it

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