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OCZ Vertex Plus 60GB SSD $78 In Store Centre Com (Shipping Extra)

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OCZ Vertex Plus 60GB SSD $78 In Store Centre Com (Shipping Extra)
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kheob on 08/09/2011 - 14:27 centrecom.com.au (592 clicks)
Last edited 08/09/2011 - 15:10

Cheaper than the MSY one but I'm not sure if it is better or worse than it. Seems like an OK budget SSD:

http://www.anandtech.com/show/4020/ocz-vertex-plus-preview-i…

PCCG also have it for $79 but shipping is more dear (at least for Vic, not sure for other states).

http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&c…

I can't find a direct comparison with the Torqx 2 from MSY but here is an indirect comparison:

Looking at the PCMark Vantage scores:

http://www.anandtech.com/show/4020/ocz-vertex-plus-preview-i…
Vertex Plus is slightly worse than C300

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Patriot/Torqx_2_128_GB/8.…
Torqx 2 scores a lot lower than the C300

PCMark emulates real world tasks so it is probably the best test to look at in terms of actual performance.

UPDATE:
Looks like Centre Com took it off. You can still get it from PCCG but you need to reserve it online and then pick it up from their HQ. If a mod could change the URL then that would be great.

UPDATE:
Looks like it's back up.

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  • ericookie on 08/09/2011 - 14:29

    anyone have good deal on 1.8inch SSD? thanks in advance :)

  • skyva on 08/09/2011 - 14:30
    +1

    These are all very exciting and I will get one eventually, but the way prices are dropping I am going to wait a little longer. 60gb is still a squeeze for the OS disc.
    Might be good for those of us who are on the older sata systems and don't have 6gb/s connectors.

    • kheob on 08/09/2011 - 14:32
      +3

      Actually it's fine for the OS. Windows 7 is only about 20GB and 40GB is plenty for programs (excluding games).

      • jv on 08/09/2011 - 14:50

        yep i have a 60Gb and still have 20Gb free after installing everything i need…

      • cloud226 on 08/09/2011 - 15:24

        when you unzip a large file. e.g 20GB, doesnt it take another 20GB in the system drive? also with the virtual mem etc. I'm sure you have to keep quite some space in the system drive which 60GB not gonna be quite enough

        • ryang on 08/09/2011 - 15:32

          Yeah, it would… But when was the last time you unzipped a 20GB file?

          The best idea is to have an SSD as the primary OS drive, with a larger HDD for your 'static' files, eg. videos, images, music, etc.

        • m0tyrider on 08/09/2011 - 15:53

          Change your windows TEMP variable to another drive.

        • urandack on 08/09/2011 - 15:56

          When you update Windows service packs, you need to have a few gigabytes free space as well.

        • jv on 08/09/2011 - 15:57

          Change your windows TEMP variable to another drive.

          yep, i moved my entire USER folder to a HDD, so all the TEMP files go there…

        • jv on 08/09/2011 - 15:58

          When you update Windows service packs, you need to have a few gigabytes free space as well.

          they go into TEMP, not on the SSD

        • wisc on 08/09/2011 - 16:05

          some people say moving your temp is a good idea- some say its bad

          good because it means that heaps of writes and reads arent going on on your SSD increasing its life…
          bad because there is lots of small files that get hit heaps - having fast access to these files will speed your computer up as its constantly writting and reading.

        • ryang on 08/09/2011 - 16:43

          @wisc;

          bad because there is lots of small files that get hit heaps - having fast access to these files will speed your computer up as its constantly writting and reading.

          But they are temporary files, and as such should only be accessed for a brief period and then discarded. Most temp files are used for installation programs, which should only be needed to install the program. Or browser cache, which shouldn't notice a problem running from a reg HDD.

        • wisc on 08/09/2011 - 16:57

          have a look in your temp director, i can garantee you that there is more than just install files… windows uses the temp directories for heaps more than just installs & browser cache has its own directories.

        • ryang on 08/09/2011 - 17:00

          Yeh, sure. But the whole idea behind a temp folder is that anything that gets stored in there should not be relied upon.. Anything that Windows puts in there, or any other program, would only have been for temporary access - as the name implies.

          Delete that folder, and watch absolutely nothing break.

          Simple fact is, the files left in there will almost never be accessed again, so they are write-and-forget type files. Not something that an SSD in a users PC should be used for.

        • wisc on 08/09/2011 - 17:29

          I agree, with you in regards to the importance of these files, however, I disagree with the outcome of fast access to these files, windows is reading and writting these little files constantly… speeding up these reads speeds up the general speed of the PC as its reading/writting so constatly..

    • Navi on 08/09/2011 - 14:43

      You are correct. I wouldn't go below 150GB for primary - but that's just me.

      Kheob keep in mind you want free space after your installed your apps and for those that are going to install it as their only drive in a laptop will fill it quickly.

      This deal would work better if you intend to buy 2 an raid em.

      • kheob on 08/09/2011 - 14:46

        It really depends on people's needs I guess. To those who got the T420 from Centre Com a 60GB is fine because you can get an UltraBay from eBay for <$20 and pop in the old HDD in that.

        But I agree - 60GB probably isn't enough if it's going to be the only drive in your laptop.

      • wisc on 08/09/2011 - 14:54

        Raiding SSDs is a bad idea, you get a nice fast transfer rate but loose the trim command IE they wear out MUCH faster.
        also the idea of an SSD is latency, loading small OS files quickly, rather than large files.
        i've raided mine, but probably shouldnt have.

        • zzzzbest on 08/09/2011 - 18:41

          If you have an intel motherboard with a ich10r southbridge then trim is supported in raid

    • systmworks on 08/09/2011 - 14:52

      I am running 2 of these in RAID0…. totally flies… and all 120GB space usable (well, about 115).

      I just use it for OS and apps (not critical)… data is on mirrored disks.

      Just be sure to take a snapshot backup (Ghost etc) once a month or so - makes a nice quick restore in case of a problem instead of hours to reinstall.

  • Solar 123 on 08/09/2011 - 14:31

    the writing/reading speed is quite limited

    • kheob on 08/09/2011 - 14:33

      Yeah it's definitely not as good as the M4 I posted a while ago but it is considerably cheaper.

  • GaZZa_Da_G on 08/09/2011 - 14:46

    SOLD OUT !?

    • kheob on 08/09/2011 - 14:47

      Interesting. I guess it is sold out. I'll update it with the PCCG link.

      • GaZZa_Da_G on 08/09/2011 - 15:03
        +1

        Its coming up now :)

        • kheob on 08/09/2011 - 15:05

          Thanks for the update.

  • Chris McMahon on 08/09/2011 - 14:51
    -1

    Here's PCCaseGear's product page on the OCZ Vertex Plus, with more details.

    I think this would have to be the poorest preforming SSD on the market.

    You'd be much better off going for something like this for $109. 50,000 IOPS vs 2,500 IOPS.

    • jv on 08/09/2011 - 14:55

      i'd get a Vertex 3

    • kheob on 08/09/2011 - 14:58

      I posted this as a budget SSD. If you're going to pay $109 you may as well get an M4.

      • jv on 08/09/2011 - 15:15

        i wouldn't be getting a budget SSD… that's as bad as getting no-brand RAM…

        prefer to get the best deal on good brands/models…

        • kheob on 08/09/2011 - 15:22

          Being a budget product does not necessarily mean it is bad.

  • Diesmile on 08/09/2011 - 15:00

    i am not sure about this version, seems like those problematic 23nm version of vertex 2 models (consider the write speed etc), this is totally guess, but it certainly could be. (what else do they do with all the thousands returned 23nm models?)

    also i would be concerned about the 2500 iops, that's quite low for a modem day ssd.

    on a side note, my m4 from bhp is arriving in melb today, can't wait to get it on monday

    • kheob on 08/09/2011 - 15:01
      +1

      Mine did too. I think I should get it tomorrow as I live in Melbourne.

      • kheob on 08/09/2011 - 15:48

        Actually the UPS guy just came and delivered the package. Maybe you'll get yours tomorrow.

  • deeeno on 08/09/2011 - 15:01

    So with SSD everyone is saying to put the OS on there, but is there any benefit for games?

    If the games aren't on the SSD itself, due to space limitations, is there going to be any noticeable performance boost or am I just going to save 20 seconds each day on boot up of my comp?

    • kheob on 08/09/2011 - 15:02

      It will only have a noticeable performance increase in load times.

    • icywind on 08/09/2011 - 15:07
      +1

      There is very little to no difference on gaming performance even if you install it on SSD, that was the report I read last year unless anything has changed.

      • wisc on 08/09/2011 - 15:16
        +1

        i would have though it would make a difference to load times between levels etc.. not to actual game play… unless you dont have enough ram and your using the swap files…

        • deeeno on 08/09/2011 - 15:18
          +1

          Ok thanks guys, no hurry for the SSD then, I usually turn my comp on and then take a shower - voila instant loading times

      • jv on 08/09/2011 - 15:17

        There is very little to no difference on gaming performance even if you install it on SSD

        my pc now boots in 15 sec compared to close to 2 minutes before… shutdown only takes a few seconds too…

        apps load about 10 times faster…

        • kheob on 08/09/2011 - 15:22
          +1

          He said gaming.

        • jv on 08/09/2011 - 15:52
          +1

          He said gaming.

          don't gamers boot up their PC and load their games before playing?

      • kheob on 08/09/2011 - 16:00

        Touche.

    • Michalek on 08/09/2011 - 15:35

      The only difference you'll notice in gaming is loading levels and shit. Nothing during gameplay. Well, that's relative; if you're coming from a 40GB Western Digital HDD from 2003 then the SSD probably would make a difference during gameplay lol

      • hybir on 08/09/2011 - 15:49

        Exactly, but there are a few exceptions like the Bethesda games that stream most of their data during gameplay. Especially on modded installs, the SSD greatly helps with stuttering which normally plagues on-the-fly loading with a HDD.

        You can also place large game files on an SSD and create an NTFS junction point. Steam will see the junction point as though it is on the HDD, but have the load times of the SSD.

  • Centrecom on 08/09/2011 - 15:06
    +4

    Hey guys. I have received news that we will be receiving these SSD's either tomorrow or Monday. So we have turned the product back on. Here's a link below:

    http://www.centrecom.com.au/catalog/oczssd2-1vtxpl60g-vertex… - $78

    • kheob on 08/09/2011 - 15:08
      +2

      Nice. $1 cheaper :D.

  • mightyboy on 08/09/2011 - 15:26
    +1

    I bought an OCZ Vertex3 and I will never buy from OCZ again.

    It's great when it works, but it feezes my system almost everyday, and reboots it. When it comes back up, the computer no longer recognises the drive, and I have to power cycle the computer to get it to work again.

    This is a COMMON problem and there is lots of talk about it on their message boards. I don't know how they can justify contining to sell these products when they are so unreliable. They frequently release firmware updates, but that hasn't fixed the issue for everyone. I haven't tried it yet.

    It may not be a problem for the model available here, but it is for mine.

    Very sad, because my computer flies with Windows 7 installed on the SSD.

    • kheob on 08/09/2011 - 15:29
      +1

      I've read that there were problems with the SandForce SSDs but this isn't a SandForce.

    • Michalek on 08/09/2011 - 15:33
      +1

      I've got a 50GB Vertex 2 in my desktop, a 120GB Vertex 2 in my laptop, a 120GB Vertex 3 in another machine and we're running 6 Vertex 3 120GB's at work and haven't encountered any issues… Mind you I've had my 50GB Vertex 2 since June 2010.

      Just thought I'd mention that in case people get freaked out by your story :)

    • mightyboy on 08/09/2011 - 15:38

      Just to clarify my post above, I actually have an OCZ Solid3, not Vertex3.

      I don't mean to scare people off, but just give them fair warning. I won't buy OCZ again.

      Here's the forum:

      http://www.ocztechnologyforum.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?254…

    • cruise control on 08/09/2011 - 15:39

      Have you tried updating the SSD firmware? Some of the OCZ vertex models encounter blue screen of death. See if updating to the latest firmware helps fixing the BSOD issue.
      http://www.ocztechnology.com/ssd_tools/OCZ_Vertex_3,_Vertex_…

      +1 regarding OCZ vertex is Sandforce

  • nicky100 on 08/09/2011 - 15:35

    Max read 185MB/s
    Max write 90MB/s

    Guess a normal HDD can do similar or better than that? so what is the point to buy this?

    • Michalek on 08/09/2011 - 15:41

      Seek time is what you're after, not necessarily read/writes.

      Access/Seek time on an SSD may be .1 or .2ms, whereas an HDD may be up to ~50-60ms. Makes all the difference.

  • jv on 08/09/2011 - 15:59

    A HUGE benefit of SSD's is doing a virus scan, about 10 times faster from my experience….

  • [Deactivated] on 08/09/2011 - 17:06

    Perfect for a cheap scratch drive. If you have a spare SATA port on your desktop throw this in and assign it for your paging file and any temp folders (for Windows in general but especially for things like Photoshop).

  • Joey4 on 08/09/2011 - 17:46
    +1

    I can't wait to look back at all these comments in 10 years time and lol.

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