Three-Layer FDA Listed Face Mask (200 Pack) $191 Delivered from Nonda

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For existing nonda accounts only.

200 FDA listed face mask for us$70.
Dhl shipping is about us$40

Total cost for 200 masks is about AUD $191. Face mask is a valuable commodity these days with hand soap and toilet paper. Shipping sorts of making the deal less attractive but it is still competitive in the market. And the good will from the business should be appreciated.

ZERO-MARGIN Face Masks against COVID-19
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In light of the COVID-19 pandemic, face masks became an essential but expensive commodity.

So, nonda acted immediately to make our community members safer. Our actions are:

On behalf of nonda users, we will purchase face masks directly from FDA registered manufacturers in China. The purchase cost now is ~$0.35/piece. (The same mask sells at $1.99/piece at Fry's).
We've negotiated a special 76% discount from DHL for nonda users.

These are how nonda wants to help our community to fight COVID-19.

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Comments

  • +4 votes

    Sold out, and is on pre-order.

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      Hi, this is Sarah from nonda. Sorry we did not expect that popularity before, so we decide to switch to a Pre-order mode. But pre-ordering did not affect anything here and you can still get masks soon. Hope that helps

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    roughly a dollar per mask, it is not too bad

  • +8 votes

    Melissa from Channel 7 said only people who wear masks are sick - https://youtu.be/-mjIaxUoP5w?t=84

    Stupid news7 they spread inaccurate information.

    • +17 votes

      I have seen so many pull the mask down to talk to each other. Masks can’t protect stupid

    • +1 vote

      They'll suffer, we'll see

    • +3 votes

      It's because no masks are available for sale.

    • +5 votes

      Melissa from Channel 7

      Who?

    • +3 votes

      Surgical masks are to stop you touching your face and stopping you pass on to other people if you're sick. It's only effective if everyone is wearing it.

      Look around you in Sydney, still large number of people outdoor not wearing masks.

      • +5 votes

        That's because it wasn't suggested/encouraged by the government. Just compare the case counts for countries where masks are worn and those aren't and it is obvious whether it helps the spread or not.

    • +5 votes

      " If you are well, you do not need to wear a surgical mask as there is little evidence supporting the widespread use of surgical masks in healthy people to prevent transmission in public."

      https://www.health.gov.au/sites/default/files/documents/2020...

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        Japan, China, Hong Kong and most asia all wear masks.. why is it so different there?

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          Placebo? Honestly, I'm not sure. I haven't found a single health authority that suggests wearing a surgical mask makes a healthy person (in public) any safer from contracting the virus.

          World Health Organisation: https://www.who.int/emergencies/diseases/novel-coronavirus-2...

          • +1 vote

            @kpm: I would also suggest looking at actual stats to compare cities/countries where wearing mask is encouraged and practiced vs those aren't.

            • +3 votes

              @muddrex: But that's a huge case of correlation not implying causation. There's countless factors influencing the transmission rate.

              If there's serious evidence to suggest that masks are the reason for lower transmission rates in these other countries, I'm very interested in reading it though.

              • +4 votes

                @kpm: I agree that correlation doesn't necessarily mean causation, but it also doesn't mean it is not. i only means it hasn't been properly tested to be definitive. but at the same time not everything can be lab tested, e.g. I don't think you can put a carrier into a group of people wearing masks and another group not wearing masks and compare the results directly with no other variables.

                Personally, I wouldn't put my faith in WHO, given the advises they have been giving and countries following them aren't doing better than those who chose to not follow them (Taiwan, who's not even in WHO, is by far doing much better than ANY other countries in the world, and Hong Kong, whose people decided to NOT follow the government's advise of NOT wearing mask during the early stage of the outbreak, is now doing a lot better than Australia despite the close proximity

                Also, wearing a surgical mask never gives anyone 100% protection. Just like washing your hands aren't giving you 100% protection as well. It has to be combined with other means in order to reduce your chance of being infected. So, I always repeat to everyone, wearing a mask does NOT give you guarantee that you'll not be infected. But does it mean it doesn't do ANYTHING in helping you protect yourself, I have to disagree. Even if I can reduce my chance of infection by 50% by shielding against droplets, that is a lot.

                Furthermore, as coronavirus is asymptomatic, it means you could be infected and be infectious without knowing it. In this case, wearing a face mask protects OTHERS by preventing you from spreading it.

                • +1 vote

                  @muddrex: Having all other risk factors constant, it is only logical that wearing mask will reduce risk versus not wearing one. So why does government and WHO do not recommend people who are well to wear mask? Another logical reason - there isn't sufficient masks for everyone and during this time, it is utmost importance that there is sufficient mask for healthcare workers and frontline workers.

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                    @F1ngolf: I agree that we don't have sufficient masks for everyone, but then the message should be how we can get more masks produced to better meet the demand and help control the spread, NOT saying that it doesn't work and so you shouldn't be wearing one even if you have one.

                    If you look at HK and Taiwan, both didn't have sufficient masks supply initially. But instead of discouraging people from wearing masks, they find ways to source more masks (including businesses converting their factory line to produce masks).

                    If the problem is insufficient masks, then solving it is to produce more mask, not advise against using it.

          • +1 vote

            @kpm: Well if it was the case then why do they get health care workers to wear them? If it makes no difference for a healthy person, then it should be fine for them not to wear it.

            If it protects health care workers then they must be "special" compared to the rest of the population because according to WHO and all the health experts they say there is no difference if you wear one or not. I guess even non-animate objects like face masks discriminate by who they protect and who they do nothing for.

        • +1 vote

          The best example is in Taiwan and Hong Kong. They wear a mask especially when we have to contact the public, and now Taiwan got maybe the lowest cases globally.
          The government really should not tell people the mask is for the people who feel sick only because it may have no symptom in the first few days.

      • +2 votes

        how do you know youre well?

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          That is true. Early stage of infection has no symptoms and this stage is the critical because the person who infected doesn't know he/she is infected and will act like normal person and spread more and more. That is why the mask is essential. some countries banned ppl without mask on public transports.

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        The problem is a person could be infected without any sign and symptoms like normal person for 2-3 wks time. The infected person can spread the virus in 2-3 weeks. How many people will get infected in 2-3weeks?
        I recommend people to buy the mask from pharmacy because there are so many fake or anti-dusk masks for sales.

    • +3 votes

      just assume you are contagious and asymptomatic, everyone should be wearing masks but it's not feasible given supply needed for healthcare.

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        I would ssay that everyone should simply "assume" they are asymptomatic and therefore:
        1) stay home and not go out unless necessary
        2) if you do need to go out for necessities, wear a mask
        3) personal hygiene is always important

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      I agree , it’s funny that teh Asian countries wear the most masks yet the numbers are increasing a lot in western countries

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        Need to compare apples to apples. e.g. take the ratio of people being infected then compare it between the different countries.
        Our rate of infection is the same as italy (60mil) right now when you use that type of comparison even though Australia (24mil) has alot less people.

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      Media guys look dumb these days. Specially channel 9 Today special guys. David and the lady next to him was exposed virus from Tom hanks and they just did self isolation until the test result came out and they just back to normal when the test is negative. But there is no corona test kit 100% accuracy and even the test kit is 99.9% accurate, ppl who tested must do 14 days self isolation. And Au gov might have imported test kits from China and the kits from China is really not good as its accuracy is very poor.

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    Is the three layers in the actual fabric or is it based on the layers when it is not even on the face. It looks like a single layer to me. Back in August, I bought a few hundred face masks at daiso in Singapore. They were 20-30 per pack. They look superior to these.

  • +2 votes

    Don't waste your money buying masks, it's already over supplied in China (for the ones know how to read Chinese, have a look at Taobao). This will eventually push down price to offload stock.

    You can see the price on ebay already dropped and have heaps of stock 50pc for $35 - $50 AUD with ebay plus.

    • +3 votes

      I can assure you that $35 for 50pc have no certification at all. The certified masks cost around that price to ship to Austrlia at bulk at this price hence there is no way to sell at $35 with the shipping cost in Australia not alone try to make some profit.

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        I'm sure a lot of masks on eBay are no good, but I also think prices will drop and that will be the time to get proper masks.

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          Yeah, I just started a form thinking if I should start a group buy deal or something. I know someone who just got her mask factory certified but not sure if this will be too complicated or illegal to do.

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      Most of the mask in China now is with terrible quality due to the unusual requirement.

  • -1 vote

    Even cheaper at Ali express .. 5-7 usd for 50

  • +7 votes

    The best way to protect yourself is not to go out, follow by if you HAVE to go out, then wear a mask ! The Channel 7 reporter was wrong by saying only the sick wear masks, tell her to go and ask anyone in HK or in Taiwan why they wear them whenever they are out ! THAT IS TO PROTECT FROM THE POSSIBLE VIRUS DROPLETS IN THE AIR !!
    I don't wear mask purely because I couldn't get any from the numerous pharmacies I asked in Brisbane. Was told so many times there will be more in the afternoon / morning, only to return and be told " oh they are sold as soon as they arrived in the shop" !
    I want our government to source more masks for the population going forward to fight this pandemic. Wearing masks and washing hands frequently is the best you can do to protect yourself. Ask the people who suffered in the SARS epidemic, they are more educated and prepared to fight this virus than majority of our population here !

    • +4 votes

      True. The mask is not only protecting yourself but also protecting others. Really can't understand what's wrong with wearing a mask.

    • +4 votes

      Everyone should assume they are contagious and asymptomatic, everyone should be wearing masks but it's not feasible given supply needed for healthcare.

  • +2 votes

    These masks are not much better then something you can make at home.

    This basically means if you are actually exposed to Corona air or cough/sneeze, you will get it.

    You need an N95 mask.

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      Surgical masks are no good! Definitely need a N95 mask.

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        I would prefer a N95, but at a cost of at 15 bucks at least per mask and just say 1 day of use (already beyond the recommaned duation). I would proudly say we should keep the N95 for the front line medical staff. ×_₩

  • +2 votes

    Surgical masks mostly protect everyone else but the wearer. If they are legit they will be BFE 99%. Tested at 3.0 micron size
    They can however stop liquid spalsh so offers some but limited protection.

    N95/P2 protect the wearer ina disposable or re usable mask. PFE (not BFE) 95% efficiency. Tested to .3 micron size (Far superior to a surgical mask with BFE 99%)

    P100/P3 protect the wearer in a re susable mask. Is 99.95% efficiency tested to .3 micron size (superior to N95/P2)

    Note some P3 like the Sundstrom SR510 filter uses a mechanical paper which is superior to electrostatic filters (most of them on the market like 3M etc)
    The Sundstrom is 99.997% efficient tested to .3 micron and at 250 lpm (not 85 or 90lpm). The best available by a long shot.

    I know what I would choose to wear if wanting protection from viruses and bacteria inhalation……Might look like overkill wearing a resuable face mask with a cartridge filter but having as close to 100% efficiency of the filter and a properly fitting face piece is the key.

    Saying all the above, most studies have shown that hand hygiene is the most important thing. Wash hands often with soap and water and when out and about use hand sanitiser with proper alcohol content or use disinfectant like Trigene etc.

    Edit - add that social distancing stopping others breathing/coughing/sneezing on you (plus touching) is also very important.

    • +2 votes

      I took a full face Sundstrom home from work the other day. I'm gonna look like a (profanity) weirdo but I'm gonna be the weirdo without a virus.

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        yep. i wear a 3m 6800 full face mask with 6038 filters… sometimes i feel like i should just go to the hospital, and ask if i can help out in some way. because im WAY more protected than any doctor in there…

        • +1 vote

          Yeah full face is probably overkill but at least you won't be touching your eyes.
          The 6038 filter from 3M is probably the only half decent filter from that company as it is mechanical paper. Still not very high surface area when compared to the Sundstrom and no pre-filter which means they won't last nowhere near as long as Sundstrom. I like the way 3M say 'nuisance odour' protection against organics. Blatant marketing BS "Nuisance Levels are those levels below the Workplace Exposure Standard (WES)" so if you want protection from such then get a real organic vapour filter at least class 1 (1000ppm tested).

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      Why are people in the community using N95 masks? There is no evidence of aerosol spread in the community. Aerosol spread is only an issue during aerosol generating procedures such as intubation and bronchoscopy.
      Surgical masks provide droplet protection if you are within 1.5m of an infective person. WHO does not recommend healthy people in the community wear masks, of any type. Just practice social distancing, hand hygiene, etc.

      PLEASE, do not deplete stock levels of N95 gear, the healthcare workers who are intubating people need this much more than you.
      Also, you don't need surgical masks but those aren't as short as N95.
      You do not want a situation where you or someone you care about is sick but can't be properly cared for due to scarcity of PPE.

  • +11 votes

    steps on soapbox This is blatant price gouging. Just because everyone else may be engaging in the same practice does not make this a bargain. It is merely making an outrageous profit off the back of public fear. Buy your masks that become infective after 5 minutes of wear, but don’t encourage & misinform the ozbargain community to support this BS. Sorry if I offended anyone, but that is my opinion. I thought the moderators were banning this kind of profiteering…

    • +2 votes

      ^ what he says

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      I don't think they are making outrageous profit. Each unit sells at 35c which is about the price in China. DHL express cost about a third of the total cost but you cannot count that into profit.

    • -3 votes

      You do know that our entire society is built off profiteering?
      Banks do it every day…
      Vets do it every day..
      Private Doctors do it every day…
      Medicine industry do it every day…

      There isn't many industries / companies which aren't profiteering.

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        There is a really big difference between profit, and profiteering.

        noun:
        a person who seeks or exacts exorbitant profits, especially through the sale of scarce or rationed goods.

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          Actually its a fine line between profit and profiteering. Not all profiteering is illegal, banks do it all the time.

          Pharmaceutical companies does it all the time by charging exorbitant prices for critical medicine. Hence why we have the PBS scheme so instead of pharma companies profiteering off Australian citizens, they profiteer off the Australian government.

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    I'm waiting to see when this will get a mention (if ever) by a politician.

    Contributing factor in the shortage of masks and hand sanitizer:

    Chinese company shipped out millions of Australia’s masks, hand sanitiser, glove supplies

    … just saying, I mean this country doesn't do anything when powdered milk gets bought up and shipped out or even when our food production companies get bought out by overseas companies.

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    Please don't buy. The hospitals need them more than us.

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      Why do they need it though? when the WHO says they do not help healthy people.

      Making the assumption that if you are unhealthy then you shouldn't be treating patients, therefore it would mean that all the hospital staff should be healthy.

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        If you present to a hospital or doctor surgery with symptons they will mask you to protect those around you. This approach helps to prevent the spread of the virus. Once masked, if a patient coughsthe mask will catch any expelled particles that may be carrying the virus which helps to prevent the spread. It also provides a block for people touching mouth/nose which are also potential ways for it to spread. You will find helat care workser will wear N95 masks, these are the onec that look like a duck bill or similar, these provide even better filtering to stop them inhaling the finest of particles. Not enought of them to go around so they are used sparingly, I have heard of cases of them being reused as they are in short supply.

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    A lot of talk on mask but nothing on gloves. Highly recommended when out and touching stuff. I heard in China they did a study that a hotbed for spread of virus was petrol Bowser handles.

    • +1 vote

      Don't forget (everyone else seems to have) the walk button at traffic lights and the supermarket touch screens at self serve checkouts. I've never seen anyone wipe down (sanitize) the check out screens esp. considering everyone touches the same place on the screens.

      • +1 vote

        For traffic lights, use your knee/hip/elbow (depending on how tall you are) to push the button.

        There are a couple more precautions you can take:

        • at work, use your elbow to activate light switches

        • perhaps carry a ruler to push lift buttons?

        • if you can, try not to touch door handles with your hands. If it's unavoidable, e.g. door opens towards you like in many toilets, go prepared with a tissue and discard immediately after use.

        • when using communal toilets (at work, shopping centres etc), use only disposable paper towel to dry your hands. Try not to touch the bin when you dispose of the paper towel, or if the bin can't easily be operated that way, take the paper towel outside and find another bin. Remember not to touch the door handle with bare skin when exiting the toilet!

        • supermarket touch screens usually work just as well, when you take a thin plastic bag from the fruit and vege section, and put it over your hand. You can try this on your phone or tablet. Wasteful, but worth it if you're at-risk. Or you could take a touch-screen stylus if you have one, and disinfect after use.

        • hand rails on stairs - avoid touching, if you can, but keep your hand over the rail so you can grab it if you need it. If you need to use the handrail, perhaps carry dish-washing gloves?

        Unfortunately, unless places have hospital-style taps that can be operated with your elbows, there's no easy way to wash your hands without touching the taps again to turn them off.

  • +2 votes

    It's a completely different culture that causes asian countries to wear masks en masse.

    Co-workers used to wear masks even if all that they felt was a little sniffle in the morning, they're wearing them to be considerate to others, not for any other strange reason westerners seem to think they wear them for.

  • -1 vote

    Blatant price gouging due to coronavirus situation.

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    You can get Aussie stock and free delivery from https://thebazzar.com.au/ site. Little expensive though.

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    No bargain here I you can get 50 delivered from ebay with free delivery for $37. Should be marked as spam.

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      Same quality? This is from FDA listed factory. I could be wrong but we need to compare apple to apple. I've seen cheaper ones but quality was very bad.

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