Starting to Enjoy This Lock down, Should The Governments Make This Once a Year Kind of Thing? What Do You Think?

I know this situation is tough, anything that is unplanned gets many people in a shocking way. However, the government is at least trying to make this situation a bit less pain with all the stimulus. So instead of reading the doom and ever-growing virus number and all these hates and blames. I thought we start on a discussion of another kind.

Who else is enjoying this lockdown at the moment?

So far I have been cleaning the house, started a guitar lesson, spending far more time with family and kids. I also did a lot of gardening. I have been saving every penny so the money side is ok.

Also, the other good side is when the whole planet shuts down, animals and environments also benefiting as well greatly.

Wouldnt be a bad idea if the whole world shuts down 2 months out of 1 year from now.

This is what happened when the world locks down for 2 months:

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2020/mar/20/nature-i...
You now see fish back in Venice which many residents don't see their whole life

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2020/mar/23/coronavi...
Pollution is way down compared to before. Imagine if we can do this once a year with a lockdown of 2 month

https://www.kidsnews.com.au/animals/wild-animals-explore-qui...
Even animals are returning, sharing more % with mother earth

Earth is really starting to run out of major resources, with the 2-month mandatory lockdown, we are buying time for new technologies to be developed, hence possible the use of new or cleaner renewable energy
https://www.sciencealert.com/the-world-could-soon-run-out-of...

If you looking at the big picture, it really isn't a bad idea, isn't it?

Would you support the 2-month mandatory lockdown if you know the lockdown is coming with a period of 2 months? Or can even do it 1-month lockdown every 6 months, would you support it?

Edit:

As suggested by PopCounty, I have made a petition here, feel free to vote here:

http://chng.it/XXy7tt92

Poll Options

  • 455
    1: I think it's a great idea, 2 month shuts down, 9 month working, 1-month personal leave
  • 148
    2: No I will rather be working and chose my own time
  • 106
    3: The idea is great, but it won't work due to human greed

Comments

    • +1 vote

      At the moment I am not sure if I will get anything from the government, I am not qualified for the Jobkeeper.

      Will be applying for the Jobseeker when I went through about 200+ questions…….

  • +4 votes

    16 million people in the US have filed for unemployment in the last three weeks because of all the shutdowns. While it might be a nice idea to take some time away, people who work directly with people (like in a restaurant or bar) can't afford two months (or longer) without a paycheque.
    Personally, I am at graduate school in the US and am graduating in May, currently looking for work. While I am not having any financial problems because I had planned to be out of work until then, I am very stressed doing university work at home while also looking for work in a very uncertain environment.
    I also miss interacting with people who aren't in my immediate friend group. It's nice to talk to XXX every now and then when you bump into them, but opportunities like that are gone now.

    • +1 vote

      Sorry to hear, there will be always someone left out in any kind of mandates, everyone is different

  • +2 votes

    Yeah screw small business and retail!

    • -1 vote

      Buying online?

      • +1 vote

        Not every business has an online presence or even has a business model that readily transfers to online.

        The economy is literally tanking right now, what made you even begin to think this was a good idea?

        • +10 votes

          The economy is literally tanking right now, what made you even begin to think this was a good idea?

          Out of sight, out of mind.

          He doesn't care if millions are losing their jobs. He's enjoying his little holiday, emissions are down and he's had a guitar lesson - so it's all good. Doesn't matter about all the businesses that will have to shut down for good, and everyone that no longer has a job to go back to when things return to normal.

          It's not just non-essential workers losing their jobs temporarily. Businesses in almost every industry are slowing down, people are being laid off, reduced hours, reduced pay.

          We are going to lose so much progress. The stimulus package is great, but it doesn't magically undo all the damage - just spreads it around and postpones it. It's money that would have gone to schools, hospitals, roads, public transport and infrastructure - all gone.

          The voting options are bs too.

          3: The idea is great, but it won't work due to human greed

          How about "No, the idea isn't great and it won't work because the lock-down has decimated our economy. "

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            @Harold Halfprice: Yeah bang on, @Zaxxon said it perfectly in another post: A very naive and self indulgent fantasy.

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            @Harold Halfprice:

            How about "No, the idea isn't great and it won't work because the lock-down has decimated our economy. "

            Agreed. But at the same time, if we degrade the environment such that it can't produce the same level of resources for businesses to exploit/utilise for producing goods to sell, what then?

            At the very least, once this all boils over, I hope that it bears on everyone's minds (including businesses) that life and business can be conducted in a more sustainable way. Accelerated climate change is only going to amplify the infectiousness of diseases. If we continue having these sorts of outbreaks, it's going to do harm in the longer term.

            I definitely do NOT want this to be the new "normal".

            If we can't mitigate the effects of climate change, and climate change increases the likelihood of disease outbreaks, and disease outbreaks leads to economic decimation, then… ?

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              @concept: I don't disagree - I feel we definitely need to find a sustainable solution to our economy. And it's certainly going to take more than just electric cars and solar panels.

              But shutting down the economy is akin to jumping off a moving train.

    • +3 votes

      This is OzBargain, everything here is anti-small business. People would ignore the closing down of any small business to save a dollar.

  • +2 votes

    I love it, being at home is comfortable and my community is full of great people!

    I don't think a shutdown is the best solution personally because of the economic stunting, however keeping the boarders shut and stopping immigration is a top outcome from this which I wish would continue.

    • +1 vote

      Good to hear, but aren't you suppose to not interact with those great people in a lockdown situation?

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        No, you're supposed to stay indoors and socially distance, with the exception of mandatory outings, which is exactly what the great people im my community do.

  • +3 votes

    There isn't much changed for me work-wise because I still sit in front of the computer all day. The difference is I don't need to commute and I don't chat to all the random people in the office anymore. Weirdly though, I find I'm missing the daily commute a bit, at least I got to walk down the streets and breathe in some fresh air.

    Sometimes I wanna go out for a drive, but I can't.. then I go sit inside my car in the garage shifting gears and pretending I was on the road… oh well, whatever works for you I guess.

    • +6 votes

      Do you make Vroom Vroom sounds when your in the garage too?

    • +3 votes

      You may have saved yourself 10 hours on the road + petrol

  • +13 votes

    Personally I'm loving working from home and hope my employer will continue offering remote work after this is all done. I'm saving about 1.5 hours every day from not commuting, don't need to wear work clothes, can take a nap at lunch time, I'm also cooking everyday and eating much healthier.

    Instead of going to the pub or out shopping, I've started learning piano and a new language. I've actually gotten closer to my family because I now call them much more often than I usually would. My life feels less complicated and I find myself spending less energy worrying about unimportant things. I know this is not most people's situation, I'm just sharing my experience.

    • +1 vote

      You sound like you are enjoying more than me, I am enjoying this, however I dont get any payment my savings will be hit by around $20k in the 6 month lock down (if it goes that long)

      But thankfully I have some savings to lay back on when I worked. I didn't spend on anything that I don't need.

  • +1 vote

    you mean like the 'purge'?

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      I had to google that, will be watching it in the next few days

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    It's like going on a fast.
    We could make April Earth month - https://www.earthday.org/earth-day-2020/

    Although i imagine it's not great if you live alone.

  • +2 votes

    The Government will hate you. They need you to spend spend spend

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      Well, yes, you are right, more spending more taxes for them

      • +1 vote

        Yes and no. Not just about taxes. Taxes are a good thing. Spending drives growth and that’s all they care about. The care about driving economic growth based on spending. That’s the love affair with migration (I’m not against migration). If the had a higher birth rate they wouldn’t care about migration.

        They don’t give a hoot on how useless or irrelevant the spending is - our economy is based on ever growing spending.

  • +6 votes

    I am personally disliking this lockdown but will accept it for what it is and do what it takes to a point (don't get me wrong, everyone has a price, level of risk and level of reward - beieve it or not).

    Firstly we are social animals. Interaction is normal and where we are - it isn't normal. Not being able to see family as we see fit is also tough.

    Secondly, communicating via online/phone whilst it is do-able lacks the entire communication process we see through body language, touch, facial expression and so on.

    Thirdly, we go out alot prior to Covid19, we don't have children so we spend most of out time socialising and enjoying what is on offer - locally and abroad. Missing all the cafes, restaurants, bars, cocktail bars etc that we used to enjoy regularly.

    Fourthly, working from home sucks in my situation. Back to point 3, we love going out. But not being able to talk with colleagues and just interacting, miss going out for coffees, lunches, post work drinks etc. Yes we save travel time and money but this is negligible in my situation. We are close to the City where we work and socialise.

    There are more, but these are just some off the top of my head.

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      I think if this thing really happens, we may have just given ourselves enough time to discover new renewable energy for the planet. Basically with the 2 months yearly lockdown, we are giving ourselves an extra 20% time on the forefront.

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        Oh yeah, we could just use this as an opportunity to have a holiday while 120,000+ are confirmed dead and countless others are still dying.

        I'm sure that'll put a few more years on the clock for you and your plants.

        Maybe instead of guitar lessons, you could be working on something a bit more productive for the planet seeing as you are such a core believer in this mentality?

  • +8 votes

    It's pretty terrible for me. I can't exercise with my favourite activity, I can't see my friends and social engagement is massively down, and my home is becoming my workplace.

    I could see how it would be fun with family and having money such that work is not important, but for me living alone it's slowly killing me. If I had to do this every year I would absolutely dread it and would easily move countries or take other drastic measures to avoid it.

    • -2 votes

      Can you adopt a little in terms of exercising? Home training not possible?

  • +9 votes

    Why would you need the government to mandate it in a non emergency situation? You can organise it yourself if you enjoy it that much. Forced curfews as part of daily life sounds like a nightmare.

    • +1 vote

      Few will be taking this option unless the government mandates it. I for one would be busy asking for shifts rather than take a rest if its not forceable.

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    We are working more for less and there are way too many of us. Except the issue of making more babies in quarantine, taking more time off could be a good idea.

    •  

      Sounds like we need to push this a bit more into the politician's future plan…………..

  • +2 votes

    I'm guessing you're not at home with young kids?

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      I have PS kids. The first week is total nightmare, after making rules in the house. Its much better on the second week and even better this week.

  • +3 votes

    I’m not lucky enough to have the work from home option however lack of the insane traffic has been a big positive plus current petrol prices don’t hurt either.

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      Apply for the Jobseeker or JobKeeper?

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        I'm still working, just don't have the option to do it from home

  •  

    179 For
    74 Against
    41 is sort of in the neutral zone leaning towards the "For" camp

    Really good to see many people support this idea

    • +5 votes

      Perhaps do another poll in another 1-2months and see how everyone is feeling then.

    • +2 votes

      Should put an option for 0 months working, 12 months leave. Many will like that even more. lol

    • +3 votes

      How about putting in a proper against option?

      I didn't vote because none of those options I agree with.
      Your against options either suggest I'd rather take my own annual leave when I want, or that I like the idea but don't think it'll work due to human greed?

      Where's the option for it being a flat out terrible idea?

      I love the fact that you can find the positives in all of this, and there are some genuinely positive things regarding the environment - but the damage it has done to our economy alone is going to set us back years. Unemployment will be through the roof and kids are missing out on a proper education.

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      Funny how you've skewed the statistics to your liking lol - you're on a bargain forum which you've added 2 "for" options and 1 "neutral/against" option.

      And this is why the country is led by the government not by the public.
      Because people bludge off the payments they receive and this "forced lockdown" will just be used to extend the month they already get to the fact they're only now working 9 months of the year.

  •  

    Even though I am working from home, my work is busier as a result of this, so less free time. But my wife and I are both pretty anti social so actually liking not having to go to all the social things we normally have to or are expected to. Both very happy not to have the family Easter do today! And i am still able to go running which is what keeps me sane.

    Our kids are finding it harder, they do a lot of sport and really missing that, as well as the social aspects of seeing their friends, and the various sport teams they are in.

  • +7 votes

    Just because you like the lockdown, does not mean it’s relevant to all of us. Staying at home creates mental health issues and unable to go out socially isolates people.

    You should have been a frontline health care worker, then you will really appreciate this pandemic and human toll it’s doing.
    Take 2 months of your time off but don’t speak for all of us.

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      Yeah, I read much news around the world however this is not about now, this is about the future. Imagine a future with 2 month off but without the pandemic. If well planned it can be a good mental break for many, causes they know when it starts when it ends.

  • +2 votes

    Nagging wife. Complaining in-laws. Annoying kids. Nah.

  • +1 vote

    I hope people learn the value of especially their car insurance even prior to the pandemic the risk/reward was poor .
    Now most are really paying the price with these really companies cleaning up !

  • +9 votes

    After 15 years of being married and kids. This lock down is showing the cracks in our marriage.

    Being forced to spend time with her 24/7 has showed that we have nothing in common anymore, and realising I've lost my love for her and it feels like we're distant friends. I'm feeling more lonely than ever at the moment as I can't see my friends and work colleagues or do any of the normal outdoor activities I used to do.

    I'm waiting until this lock down is over to talk about getting a divorce.

    I think this lock down is probably the worst thing that has happened in my life and I'd hate to repeat it every year. Literally my definition of hell. Lost appetite, can't sleep, feeling sick all the time from being overwhelmed with emotions.

    • +2 votes

      F

    • +1 vote

      Can only imagine the very difficult situation you are going through but suspect you won't be the only one out there struggling through 24/7 with their partners.

      All the best.

    • +1 vote

      Very sorry @Name you are feeling like this. There are a lot of support services you can use even virtually. I'd just say or tennis you this isn't the norm, so maybe not make big decisions on a period that will end soon. I'm sure you've had a lot of great times in 15 years of marriage. Hopefully that doesn't come across as condescending.

    • +1 vote

      Covid saved you from another 10 years of loveless marriage.

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      Yes, its the worst of the worst when 2 people are going through this kind of stages as they have nowhere to hide or run. If both partners feel the same then it's a little more bearable I guess. But if another other partner still wants to try and one has already decided, then its like a prison sentence.

  • +7 votes

    No, I'm hating it. I'm old and I see this as valuable time out of my remaining years. I had so many plans for this year so I'm beyond frustrated. I'm just thankful that unless something catastrophic happens to me personally I should still be around when it's over. I think it's very humbling to see the efforts of health workers and other essential staff who are working so hard for our benefit at huge risk to themselves, and not enjoying the luxury of "lockdown". I would like to see those people rewarded with an extended paid holiday when this is over.

    • +1 vote

      Unfortunately, the government won't be putting them in the most rewarding bracket………

  • +4 votes

    This isn't anything like a lockdown, this is just a half baked pie.

    Lockdown in NZ is everything closed other than Pharmacies, doctors, Supermarkets, fuel stations. So No Bunnings, No takeaways, No Kmart, No Costco.

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      Surely costco could be open for groceries???

    • +3 votes

      Not even fush and chups?

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      Yeap! Many shops are still open, so not really a lock down, not here in Perth anyway

  • +1 vote

    Government should mandate a move to the four-day work week. There's your month off, and it doesn't require the country to stop moving.

    • +1 vote

      There's your month off, and it doesn't require the country to stop moving.

      Then you're not going to get any of the environmental benefits we are seeing. Having an extra day off wont make a difference.
      An extra day off is not the same as going into a lockdown and slowing, if not stopping, the economy.

      Fish aren't going to return to Venice because we've got an extra day off each week.

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      Pretty sure some EU country already doing this and people are much happier by the reports on the internet

  •  

    It's really down to individual circumstances. Personally I've enjoyed iso in general but I don't think it's the same for everyone.
    If we can move to becoming more culturally accepting (or even encouraging) towards taking longer breaks during the year, then those of us who can will take longer breaks. Those who don't want to won't have to.
    With regards to the environment, I agree with you in principle but there's so much we can do to lighten our impact to our environment that's not as restrictive to our lifestyle.

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      Yeap, some of the people I know are going nuts online writing in the public forum like this one…………..lol

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    I'm loving working from home. I'm loving free childcare even more. It's worth about $3.5k/month to me.

    • +1 vote

      You pay $42k/year for childcare?!!

      • +1 vote

        Sadly yes. It’s $140/day for my 21 month old and $130/day for my 3 year old. It was even more last year when my eldest who just started school in Jan was there too.

        CCS cap of $10k per child/year cuts me off from the subsidy around this time each year so free child care came at exactly the right time.

        I’m just thinking how rich I will be when my kids are all in school finally.

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      WOW! Just WOW!

  • +2 votes

    Before Covid I attended $15 underground local metalcore concerts every single weekend. There was always something to look forward to after a tough work week. That has been taken away.

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    Traffic on busy roads has never been better. A trip that normally takes 35 minutes on Mondays took only 20 minutes today. Parking is also great. One can park across driveways and on nature strips without fear of rangers issuing fines.

    • +1 vote

      Even better, now if you park across a driveway, I can freely damage your car and no one will do a thing to help you!

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        That is why we have dashcams.

  • -1 vote

    OP is suffering from "lock-down" disorder

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      Stockholm syndrome by Coronavirus? yeap you nailed it:)

  • +8 votes

    I hate how the world used to be, never had time to pursue hobbies or enjoy your house that you work like a dog for.

    Home felt like just a hotel. The congestion on the road, pollution and inflexibility of the workplace pushed me to feeling like a dog.

    The lockdown has forced us to innovate and create solutions. I feel abit more human these days.

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      enjoy the remaining of it to the full:)

  • +2 votes

    I'm with you in most respects. The extra time at home with family, no commute to work, clock off from my work laptop at 5pm (without the peak time cram) are fantastic. I don't really enjoy interacting with my work colleagues anyway so that is not an issue with me.

    Also managed to pick up some "cheap" shares on the ASX (TBD how good these trades turn out)

    What I do miss - freedom to exercise outside freely, dining out, visiting family outside of my immediate household.

    • +1 vote

      If adding all the dining out, it would not be a lockdown, would it?:)

  • +2 votes

    I'm starting to think this poster is the Magical man from Happy Land (Homer, s11). Sorry but I find this very naive and self indulgent fantasy. A working, functioning economy is the drive-chain of our existence! You can't just stop it and put it on hold until you finish learning bar chords on guitar. Look at the chaos unfolding around the world. You can't tell billions of people to chill for 2 months. Businesses and investment need stability to work otherwise they stutter and die. And which government in their right mind is going to promote this? What about the mental anguish a lot of lonely people are going through right now? Must be a nightmare for those trapped inside. I want a cleaner, more sustainable planet just as much as the next person but we'll only achieve this by working in ethical, environmentally friendly ways, not hibernating. If you swap the 2 months hiatus for ethical, stable, non corrupt governments that govern with the environment and future generations in mind you will get your utopia. (Now who's being naive… hah!).
    Hey can you repost in 4 wks and let us all know how the home schooling is going?

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      So far so good with the home school, we have worked out a schedule, morning, afternoon, free time, more like an un-official schedule. I guess it also depends on how the kids are, some kids just won't listen, others are bought up with reason and education, which sometimes can still be hard but it gets better than some.

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      You can and have to.
      Once in a lifetime until back to the "improvement" that was the previous version of society. Congestion, pollution, generally getting in each others Face. Humans adapt and the the key message is that flexibility with peoples lives is great for society. Those that innovate and value human resources and utilitize the market effectively will make the most money.

  •  

    From a software industry perspective, many of us work from home multiple days a week, so we are used to staying indoor for several days consecutively.
    For people like me who would like to avoid crowd, malls and such places are something that we hardly visit.

    If there is one thing that I really miss - its fishing. Even though fishing is allowed, my nearest fishing spots are too far to risk a fine driving to.

  • +2 votes

    Blue skies in India…it would be nice if everyone stopped blathering about climate change not being real and instead started figuring out how to make industry productive AND clean.

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      Good to hear, many cities are experiencing the same at the moment

  • +4 votes

    Let's please put this in perspective.
    There are some essential services- health and medical, law enforcement, transportation etc.
    They cannot be shutdown for two months.

    What about those people?
    I personally worked 10-11 hrs everyday INCLUDING weekends till last Wednesday, as we had a product release (related to COVID-19 response).

    So, not everyone thinks this is a holiday. These are exceptional circumstances, which is really hurting the economy, and will a huge debt on the future generations, and without Govt support will decimate the housing and small businesses retail sectors.

    So, when you talk about 2 months closure, please also think - what about the contractors and daily wage earners? What about small businesses? What about retail workers? Govt will not give free money, so people will struggle.

    There will be a lot of people out of job- without savings, and would really struggle, in more ways than one. Mental health issues, DV, petty fights might go up.
    Man is a social animal- two months of isolation would be hard.
    Expert for people who have a steady job.

    What you are suggesting may be good for the environment, but terrible for the economy.

    Unfortunately, COVID-19 pandemic hit us, and good thing is, the Govt is doing its best to help, and that is absolutely necessary and essential at a time like this.

    Please note that money does not simply appear from thin air ( although US had been printing a lot of money lately).

    As far as your personal preference is concerned, please feel free to enjoy life, there are jobs ( seasonal jobs) that you can get, and if you prefer cleaner atmosphere, moving to the outskirts of the countryside is an option.

    Please don't expect the Government to fund everyone if they just prefer not to work for two months.

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      Many really tricky decisions will have to be made with many areas of how this shut down works if in the next 200 years someone came up with the same idea but by then people on earth are more acceptable. The reason I say that by then Earth will be totally out of resources, human population would be either 5 times of now or 50% of now due to war, disease, etc……..

  • +3 votes

    I really wish OP puts a change.org petition about this. Since this brilliant yet debatable idea s/he originated.
    Lockdown is not going to happen however invite ideas there as comments. Why
    Not turn this as a movement. Let ppl understand all Paris talks are fine but it’s citizens’ voice demanding action.
    I am pretty sure all ppl have gained some insights by now. This lockdown would force you to plan ahead. Hard to justify why ppl wouldn’t be able to plan ahead for 2 months PLANNED lockdown. It’s like work for 10
    Months and relax for 2 months or just say one month. This itself should relax carbon footprint by at least appx. 5-7%. Assuming essential services are up. Not a great number nonetheless it’s huge leap compared to 0.

    To me, what a brilliant perspective you have really put OP. We just need to be mature in thoughts and plan ahead should this happen.

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      Give me a few days to do some research on how Change.org works, I don't think it will change anything fundamentally. However, it may change the way people think in the future in terms of work, play, environmental issues, the next stage for the human race etc……..

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        Exactly. That’s the point. We need to think hard. And as you have pointed with evidence, a lot of evidence on change.org would certainly be impactful. Eager to get the petition. Good luck OP.

        • +2 votes

          Petition made. It will be fantastic even if a little can be done to the environmental issues earth is will be facing for the future generation.

          http://chng.it/XXy7tt92

  • +9 votes

    You know you can just quit your job and sit at home for two months if that's what you want to do.

    No need to drag 25 million other people into your annual mandatory lock-down fantasy.

    I mean it's nice to know you having a great time enjoying yourself at home, but please spare a thought for those with their lives absolutely turned upside down by this.

    • +1 vote

      This is not about me trying to enjoy the 2 months off, I can enjoy it when I retire or have enough savings to do so.

      This is about the future of the human race and what we can do now to ensure we leave a legacy for future generations, by acting now.

      • +1 vote

        Humans could focus on the environment if everyone cared and if government greed did not drive everything

  • +3 votes

    I hate that both the wife and I have to apply for the dole for the first time ever. Two more drains on working taxpayers and the economy.

    That said OP's upsides did get me thinking. Here's my top 10 isolation perks:

    1. Other illnesses are decreasing. Who has a cold right now?
    2. Parents are spending quality time with their kids, and owning responsibility for their education
    3. Small businesses are being forced to pivot their model, trade online, and become an essential service.
    4. Government is getting sh!t done instead of indulging in endless debate
    5. Video calls are sometimes more valuable than IRL chats, as you are forced to look at people and listen closer without distractions
    6. Employers now trust working from home works. Tech is easier, and staff WFH habits are improving. No more expensive commutes
    7. Neighbours are now on first name basis, and helping each other with, shopping, tasks, tips, and swaps
    8. Couples are either getting on better (coronial baby boom inbound), or are being forced to fix relatiinship issues
    9. Old "when I get around to it" diy jobs are getting cleared. People are more "house proud"
    10. I'm watching cash and reigning in my OzB impulse-buy addiction

    What other upsides are people in noticing?

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      Don't feel bad about taking government funds. The government did this to you by not closing borders in time, so now you are being rightly compensated.