Bought the chicken style at woolies a couple times and really enjoyed it. Just add water, mix and cook,
From their website:
Buy Meaty Mix in bulk at heavily discounted prices with free shipping Australia wide. Lockdown sale ends soon, so get to it!
Each packet of Meaty Mix weighs in at 130g, and allows you to make up to 900g of your own plant-based meat when you add your own fillings.
Personally don't think they're as good, but obvs way cheaper than Beyond
Also agree Beyond is a superior product but at $12 for two burger patties it works out to be around $50/kg. I also like that I can keep this stuff in the pantry instead of freezer.
LOLOLOL!!! 😂😂😂
Ok.
The R-rated jokes just tell themselves ;)
How about we don’t troll on their related posts in the same way we don’t want them to come into our meat related posts and tell us to be vegan. How are we different to that behaviour?
For starters it was just a silly joke. And to be fair you always see Vegans protesting on certain deals. Who cares really? It’s not a big deal. Let everyone have their say, it won’t kill you.
Let everyone have their say, it won’t kill you.
The consumption of nonvegan food requires the literal killing of over 60 billion warm blooded and over a trillion aquatic animals every year.
@afoveht: And monocropping involves the killing of vast numbers of animals, insects, etc., but that's OK, apparently, because they don't have big soulful eyes, and it's WAY easier to ignore. Eating things involves killing things, but eating grains and so on involves killing VASTLY more numbers, they're just much smaller and thus easier to pretend away.
@mickeyjuiceman: More crops worldwide are fed to livestock than humans. So there's that.
Most agriculturists are nonvegan. How do expect them to care for collateral kills or seek better solutions when they don't even care about intentional kills? The problem is nonveganism, not cropping.
From your comment below:
So you think what I'm saying is because I'm against veganism? No…
Apparently you're full of it.
@mickeyjuiceman: No. Google "percentage of crops used to feed livestock" and read various sources to inform yourself.
@mickeyjuiceman: Experience with dairy and beef farming in various places around Australia. Feedlot and non-feedlot. Grain finished and not.
95-100% of the feed is grown specifically for the cattle (with no other benefit), or grown wild where the cattle are run, or bought as cattle feed. Very little "waste" is fed to livestock. Sure, the crops aren't high quality human food crops, but the land could often be used for higher quality crops.
I'm sure some very small percentage of livestock farming relies on waste products for feed, but it just isn't possible or cost effective for the vast majority.
@afoveht: Yep and it still won’t kill YOU. Way to try and stretch a point there. This is the kind of rhetoric that makes people dislike vegans. I could have mentioned monopoly and you would talk about animals dying. Vegans aren’t so innocent either you know. Apart from the amount of insects obliterated. Go look at how something like vegan butter is made, the irony is hilarious.
This is the kind of rhetoric that makes people dislike vegans.
No. Google "dislike vegans" and read various sources to inform yourself why nonvegans generally dislike vegans.
Pertinent snippets from this article (4th in my own google search)
Prejudice against vegans is real and strong. The prejudice that meat-eaters feel toward vegans is at least as negative as that expressed toward immigrants and is even more negative than racism expressed toward Black people (MacInnis & Hodson, 2017).
Prejudice toward vegans is more severe than prejudice against vegetarians, with vegan men being the most despised (MacInnis & Hodson, 2017). Such findings highlight the importance of deviance and group norm violation in predicting prejudice toward outgroups.
Meat-eaters are particularly negative toward vegans who avoid eating meat for reasons of animal welfare, compared to those who do so for health or environmental reasons (MacInnis & Hodson, 2017). This suggests that anti-veg*n prejudices are motivated and defensive as opposed to simply being a matter of disliking someone from another group (or someone who makes different diet choices than oneself). That is, the reasons WHY someone doesn’t eat meat is an important factor in determining the degree of bias expressed against them.
Meat-eaters (MacInnis & Hodson, 2017) and those on the political right (Dhont & Hodson, 2014; Dhont et al., 2016; MacInnis & Hodson, 2017) feel that vegns are a threat to society and culture. In this way, vegns are targeted not for doing something, but rather for refusing to do something (eat meat).
People who are threatened by veg*ns come to feel, over time, that food animals and wild animals are less deserving of moral concern and protection (Leite et al., 2019).
No. Google "dislike vegans" and read various sources to inform yourself why nonvegans generally dislike vegans.
Translation: here are some handpicked sentences from just a single report that agrees with me, therefore you are entirely wrong.
Intellectually dishonest along with use of the appeal to authority fallacy.
@mickeyjuiceman: Authority?
Umm, Google it yourself. Find anyone that has any substantive reason different to those I quoted. You know, apart from Pete Evans.
@afoveht: Wow! You see yourself as more of a victim that somebody who face extreme prejudice, hate and racism. Comments like yours are exactly why people HATE Vegans. You’re in that special group of hardcore Vegans like that Joey Carbstrong. People don’t feel threatened by Vegans, there is nothing threatening about them. You have no respect or care for anyone’s opinions or way of life, it’s either your way or nothing. You are intolerable and insufferable. I rarely say I would hate anyone, but hardcore Vegans I definitely cannot stand.
@[Deactivated]: So triggered.
There are hundreds of millions of people, religious zealots, who say you deserve to go to hell, yet you probably have more scorn for someone who thinks animals shouldn't be senselessly killed. Telling.
@afoveht: Yeah sure buddy, I’m triggered. You imply I dislike a person because they believe animals shouldn’t be killed. When did I say that? You won’t find where I said that, because I didn’t. You certainly show the correct attitude of a hardcore Vegan, though. Always twisting words and coming back to the age old classic ‘you hate me because I love animals’. No, I dislike you because you are whiny, manipulative, ignorant, self centred a**holes who have no respect for others unless they share you’re narrow minded view of the world. Stop wasting my time.
@[Deactivated]: You've seen Joey Carbstrong stuff and still not even open to the topic of ethics and animal rights? How is it to be that ignorant and live with that? Scared to face yourself?
@nagev5: Easy, Joey is just a rude (profanity) most of the time. How is it, to be that triggered, you would reply to an old comment to get your outrage points up for the day? Fascinating!
@[Deactivated]: I was looking for vegan deals and noticed this ridiculous thread. I've got extra time with this iso happening
Reviews are 50/50, but at $40 for 10 packs I'm willing to try and encourage food companies to produce more tasty meat free alternatives
If anyone wants to try one pack, not 10, just noticed they are on special for $4 a pack at Woolworths this week. (if yours stocks it.)
https://www.woolworths.com.au/shop/productdetails/63695/unre…
So works out to be $5/kg of vegan 'meat' after adding water to make 130g = 900g (x 5 packets).
nope, it allows you to make up to 900g of your own plant-based meat when you add your own fillings.
Out of curiosity, what would it taste like if you add real meat?
It says just add water.
This is what I don't understand. It initially looked okay value but then looking at it, it doesn't add up.
The product is 130g and calls for you to add 1 cup of water which is 250g. So that's 380g. Where is the extra 520g coming from?
On the boxes it says:
Minimum is 380g (130g pack + 250ml water) which makes a basic lean mince type product. Plus you can add any or all of the following to change the texture, taste, quantity, etc. I think they recommend working from the top down.
60g for extra flavour (herbs, spices & up to 60ml water).
150g for bulk (up to 150g vegetables)
110g for extra protein (50g protein powder & 60ml water)
up to 200ml oil to change texture to a more fatty/oily meat.
So you could end up with 900g of spiced, extra vege, extra protein, fattier meat product (like you might use in a burger or rissole).
At first I also thought this was misleading, however now that I've used a couple of boxes it is helpful to know how exactly you can alter the recipe. For instance if you buy real meat, or a Beyond Burger or similar, there is some fat content to make it meaty. With these boxes you can add anywhere from zero to 200ml oil to vary that fat content based on the texture, taste etc. you want.
For reference in the past I have tried using protein powder + oil, veges, spices to make meat replacements, and most of the time it has turned out rubbish. First time with a box of this and I was surprised at how good it tasted.
My understanding is that the extra 520g comes from your own ingredients like mushroom, carrots, etc.
Yeah - that's some shitty advertising.
Works out to be ~$10.50/kg for lean mince type meat, or as little as $6.50/kg if you make the bulked up version (depending on the cost of veges, oil & protein powder you use). I made a batch with all the additions and enjoyed it. Normally I'd buy the Fry's/Quorn type meat replacements for about $10/kg when they are on special, so it worked out well.
With other recipes where I use mince or make burgers (using meat mince) I might add breadcrumbs or similar and sometimes egg as a binder - I was thinking you could probably add 100-200g of breadcrumbs and an egg to push this further if you were making burgers or rissoles or something like that. At that point the "meatiness" of your base becomes less and less relevant.
Is this meaty mixes made from soy and lentils?
What makes you believe it's "ultra-processed rubbish"?
What do you think ground up rice, soy and potato starch is supposed to look like???
@Raynes: They are processed food. Potato starch is a highly processed food I reckon.
If you want to learn what is ultra-processed food, here it is. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6389637/#sup1
These (ultra-processed food) are industrial formulations typically with 5 or more and usually many ingredients. Such ingredients often include those also used in processed foods, such as sugar, oils, fats, salt, antioxidants, stabilizers, and preservatives. Ingredients only found in ultra-processed products include substances not commonly used in culinary preparations, and additives whose purpose is to imitate sensory qualities of group 1 foods (e.g. meat) or of culinary preparations of these foods, or to disguise undesirable sensory qualities of the final product.
You didn't seem so concerned when posting your deals on KFC or Skittles; you suddenly health conscious?
@Rybo5000: Good point. I have always been health conscious, but love eating unhealthy foods despite knowing how bad they are. I'm not saying don't eat this, but simply stating that this is really a highly processed stuff.
I don't get why people get mad and neg me for saying, this is highly processed food, because it is. If not then it's understandable.
@MagicMushroom: Vegans tend to be very sensitive - not saying that in a condescending way, it’s the nature of their beliefs so naturally they will take things like this to heart. I say let everyone have their view. As long as you’re not directly insulting or abusing someone, no big deal.
@MagicMushroom: I said why do you believe it's ultra processed rubbish - a BIG difference to the claim you decided to address instead.
Aside from the fact I couldn't care less what Michael J Gibney deems to be ultra-processed, there is nothing inherently wrong with processing food.
@callum9999: Actually, there's quite a lot of research out there that shows the more processing a "food" gets, the worse it is for you.
I said why do you believe it's ultra processed rubbish
As provided earlier, https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6389637/#sup1
there is nothing inherently wrong with processing food
Wow that's an unbelievable statement to make.
@MagicMushroom: I can see why it's unbelievable to you, but it's very basic common sense.
Cutting up an apple is processing it. Does that make it less healthy? OBVIOUSLY not. It very clearly depends on what the processing actually is - so I'll repeat the question. What makes you think this is ultra-processed rubbish?
Protein [Soy, Rice], Fibre [Bamboo, Methylcellulose], Potato Starch, Natural Yeast Extract, Natural Vegan Chicken Flavour, Maltodextrin, Salt
Sounds fine to me??
And who gives a toss if it is highly processed. The manufacturers aren't saying it's anything it's not, and you can't help people who don't want to understand that vegan means vegan, not something completely unrelated they might imagine it to mean.
And who gives a toss if it is vegan or not? This comment thread was purely talking about ultra-processed food being ultra-processed food until you added the vegan bit. Understanding of what is vegan is completely unrelated to ultra-processed food being ultra-processed food.
And who gives a toss if it is vegan or not?
The manufacturers, who openly declare they're vegan, describe their products as vegan, and don't make any health claims whatsoever.
Why don't you comment on deals for mars bars or dominos pizza or the thousand other nonvegan food deals if you're so concerned about highly processed foods?
@afoveht: So you think what I'm saying is because I'm against veganism? No I'm simply saying that this is highly processed food for these who don't believe this is highly processed.
Why don't you comment on deals for mars bars or dominos pizza or the thousand other nonvegan food deals if you're so concerned about highly processed foods?
I do. I have commented at times when I saw misinformation related to food. You can go through my comments if you don't believe me. Obviously, this was the first time I had to defend something being highly processed food because that's usually easy to figure out.
I have commented at times when I saw misinformation related to food
Where is there such misinformation here? No mention was made of the food's health in the post, nor is there any mention of health on the manufacturer's site - it was fully your (and others') misunderstanding of what vegan means. Vegan means vegan, not what you might think it means. Veganism is not at all about health or food "processedness."
@afoveht: mickeyjuiceman: "Perfect for when you need a meal of ultra-processed rubbish."
Raynes: "Protein [Soy, Rice], Fibre [Bamboo]… Sounds fine to me??"
You: "And who gives a toss if it is highly processed."
My point: no it's not fine and I care. This is indeed an ultra-processed food.
@callum9999: Because people are trying to deny this is a process food when it indeed is. I'm simply supporting what mickeyjuiceman said. Do I really need to spoon feed you with explanation to correct something as simple as 1+1=2 not 3?
@Adamantine: Sure, I didn't say to eat this or not but okay. Have you understood that this thing is processed and won't say it isn't?
@MagicMushroom: Who is denying it?
You seem to be confused because you're unable to grasp that the word "process" encapsulates a VAST range of actions - some of which are healthy, some of which are neutral and some of which are unhealthy - instead just blindly believing any form of processing MUST be bad and flat-out refusing to give any reasoning.
These were endcapped in the clearance section at woolies booragoon. Possibly they sell well at more alternative shops. I considered buying one to try but what's the point? If its rubbish I won't eat it and will have wasted other ingredients. If I like it, it won't be available going forward. At least they maje it obvious that it's not real meat and the fact that it doesn't require refrigeration is a definite plus.
Any products that taste similar to these you could compare to? I do enjoy the vegan "meats", but just want a benchmark because some are better than others.
And also do you know what the shelf(pantry) life is for these?
edit: answered one of my questions myself - Use only what you need, and store the rest for up to 12 months.
The same company have a ready made ‘chick n’ range (patties, schnitzels, sliders) in the chilled foods section at Woolworths. It’s similar to those if you’ve tried them. I like the mixes as you can incorporate your own seasoning and grated veg into them.
Cool, will give them a go! Thanks!
Thanks OP! Got the 5 x beef and 5 x chicken. Easy to use website, very happy.
I can’t seem to get pass the PayPal screen on my phone.
Worked for me.
Safari on my iPhone didn’t work. Tried chrome and it worked. Cheers.
i dont get buying these overpriced smashed grain products, when you can just buy grains or beans and easily cook them yourself. add a little chilli powder and voila
Make it look like a meat product, put "meat" in the title, and sell it for multiple-times its original worth. Marketing genius.
I don’t get why you’d want to think you’re eating meat when you don’t agree with eating animals.
100G TVP magically = 1kg 'meat'
its beyond genius
For me personally I did not stop eating animals because I didn't enjoy the taste. I chose to stop consuming animals on an ethical basis. I occasionally eat a plant based meat alternative as family traditions center on food and the alternatives allow me to still enjoy familiar dishes and comfort foods.
ive tasted these 'plant-based meats'. they taste nothing like meat and everything like crushed beans. nothing wrong with crushed beans, but it's so easy to open a can of kidney beans and fry it with a little bit of oil and some soy sauce. yummo
I don't mean to be rude, but that can't be true? It's blindingly obvious why, and if you can't figure it out then I'm a little bit worried for you…
Still hard to follow recopies and get the correct ingredients
Same reason why people use pancake mix
When it's really one egg one cup of flour and one cup of milk
i suppose. the cost difference on these 'meats' are astronomical though. pancake mix is $1 and the bottle doubles as a shaker
Thanks OP, will give it a go - really like Beyond but these are way cheaper.
TVP makes me fart so much. Any alternatives?
Those of you thinking of getting them (Meaty Mix), check the nutritional info; they're drowning in salt! Probably the reason they're being flogged for 1/2 price. The company seems to have addressed it in their new range but they don't appear to be available on their online store.
Never had these. How do they compare to Beyond Meat?