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WD 8TB Elements Desktop Hard Drive $231.93 + Delivery (Free with Prime) @ Amazon US via AU

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Just bought 2 of these for my NAS. Of course, the action of me buying them means Murphy lowered the price $55 each. These are great drives, not SMR so great for NAS and shucking. I bought 4, 2 for me and 2 for my brother and after shucking, all had WD80EMAZ drives inside. Delivery to metro Melbourne from States was about 10 days.

If shucking, remember to do a full test BEFORE you shuck, just in case you need to send them back.

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  • TightTerry on 09/06/2020 - 08:29

    i swear these were $215 the other day?

    The price of the 12 TB's are still well priced at around $350 currently if you want to bump up the size, similar price per TB

    • Skramit on 09/06/2020 - 08:31
      +4

      Pre-covid they were frequently around $190-200 on sale.

      But if one needs 8TB now for urgent linux iso's….. this is a decent but not amazing price.

      • TightTerry on 09/06/2020 - 08:35
        +1

        Wouldnt say frequent but there were a couple of great prices around the $200 mark, think i got one for $201 around Jan this year.

        • Skramit on 09/06/2020 - 08:41

          I might be thinking of the Seagate ones….I did manage to snare a Seagate 8TB for $134 in a price error :P

          I'm sure the seagate ones were on sale often enough around $195ish. Perhaps WD's were more $200.

        • WesthamAreMassive on 09/06/2020 - 10:22

          Monday, 3 February 2020 $201.13

      • jaymzrsa on 09/06/2020 - 08:36

        Don't think I ever saw them that low, but BF had some good deals and pre-covid like Skamit suggested things were definitely cheaper.

  • Skramit on 09/06/2020 - 08:30
    +4

    If shucking, remember to do a full test BEFORE you shuck.

    Pffff wuss…. I prefer to live dangerously!! Shuck first then test!!! I'm a bit rebellious by nature.

    • jaymzrsa on 09/06/2020 - 08:32

      Doesn't seem to bad anymore but there was a time when buying drives from NewEgg or Amazon that people would buy, shuck, put their drives back into the enclosure and RMA them. I was terrified so did the pretest. Normally I am a shocker, just read too many stories.

      • TightTerry on 09/06/2020 - 09:13

        Just to clarify, why were they RMA’ing? Was there an issue or they just wanted to return them? Or something more shifty

        • jaymzrsa on 09/06/2020 - 09:20

          Get a free drive. Order a drive, do the old switcharoo, RMA and refund. Free upgrade, was happening a lot with the Nvidia 1080's too. Buy a brand new 1080 GTX, put your old card back in the box and RMA. Amazon has a stupidly lax return process. I've been refunded on the first postal scan, they didn't even wait to receive the item back before the money was returned. I could have posted an empty box and just said "must have been lost in transit". It's great customer service but very easy to exploit.

          • TightTerry on 09/06/2020 - 09:27
            +1

            @jaymzrsa: Ahh yes I see, was looking at a Reddit post the other day of someone in the states ordering a 10TB WD from somewhere like Best Buy, opening it up to shuck and finding at old 120gb drive in there :S shifty scam that one.

          • Pittyh on 09/06/2020 - 09:44
            +6

            @jaymzrsa: Well that's just theft, and there should be repercussions. :(

          • boretentsu on 09/06/2020 - 09:46

            @jaymzrsa: Niiice

          • TightTerry on 09/06/2020 - 12:50

            @jaymzrsa: Lol not sure why he is receiving downvotes - he was on the wrong end of one and is simply stating what people have done in the past.

            • jaymzrsa on 09/06/2020 - 13:16

              @TightTerry: Tough crowd… I think people may think I'm advocating it, or by saying it, it will give others ideas :-(

      • pinkybrain on 09/06/2020 - 10:26

        what software do you use to test it before shucking?

        • Bob81 on 09/06/2020 - 12:12

          CrystalDisk or pretty much any program that will read S.M.A.R.T attributes from a hard-disk drive.

          • pinkybrain on 09/06/2020 - 18:53

            @Bob81: so just look at smart values

            not need to do a short or long test?

    • TightTerry on 09/06/2020 - 08:34

      Agreed! Shuck and in the event of a disaster - panic-ally re-wrap!

      • Skramit on 09/06/2020 - 08:39
        +1

        Sticky tape and superglue can mend anything. ;)

  • Catcher on 09/06/2020 - 08:39
    +1

    Anyone know the difference between Elements and My book? 10tb is $286.32 for My book. Are the drives inside the same?

    https://www.amazon.com.au/gp/product/B07CMH78R5/

    • congo on 09/06/2020 - 08:44

      Are the WD My Book 10TB shuckable?

    • dthawks01 on 09/06/2020 - 09:50

      I'm also curious about this

    • Satirical on 09/06/2020 - 11:18

      Extra year of warranty with the MyBook. Same set of non-SMR drives.

    • sephiris on 09/06/2020 - 14:07

      Oh neat they had a decent price drop overnight according to 3camel. Thanks for pointing this out!

  • kaal on 09/06/2020 - 08:42

    These were $223 yesterday. Didn’t bite as I wanted a bigger drive.

    • jaymzrsa on 09/06/2020 - 09:14

      Saw that but was already in bed so posted this AM. Think it is probably FX

  • toxicity11 on 09/06/2020 - 08:52

    Pretty tempting as my NAS only has 4TB free so the disks are filling and slowing.

    But as for the test before you shuck - can't agree more, I've had to RMA one (it was super simple and quick so phew)

    I also keep the casing in tact & all parts/box so it can be sent back should the drive ever fail during warranty

  • Bloodwah on 09/06/2020 - 08:55
    +3

    One thing to be wary of is that amazon are just slapping a shipping label on the retail box and shipping them so they arrived beat to all hell.

    • TightTerry on 09/06/2020 - 09:15

      Yep, I got some free leaves and dirt stuck on mine as it was delivered on a rainy day. Pretty exciting to wonder if they were from Melbourne, Sydney or even the states!

    • BargainKen on 09/06/2020 - 09:45

      I ordered 2 drives from them at separate times, 1 came looking like it'd been in a warzone, the other looked relatively untouched.

    • Pittyh on 09/06/2020 - 09:46
      +1

      Really? every box i've had from amazon has been in a box, that's pretty dodgy.

    • johnnytran on 09/06/2020 - 11:17

      I look forward to receiving mine from the other deal! What do people use to test their drives? I have hard disk sentinel which i don't really use, can that run the correct tests?

  • duk242 on 09/06/2020 - 09:45
    +1

    I bought 5 of these a month or so ago to shuck for my NAS.
    They're really good. They run fast, not super quiet but close enough.

    Shucking is super easy, check youtube for a guide. I used 4 guitar picks to hold the tabs open, then the case literally just slides off.

    The ones I bought were from the US, so they came with US power adapters, so you'll need to use an adapter to make the plug fit for when you do your pre-shuck test (the PSU is 110-240v so that part is okay!)

  • y on 09/06/2020 - 09:45

    Is it not possible to buy 10/12/14 TB drives suitable for NAS use at the same or lower price bare without a USB enclosure?

    I need to replace 5x 1.5TB drives in my NAS server and it just seems wasteful and stupid to buy 5x USB enclosures and have to shuck them

    • jaymzrsa on 09/06/2020 - 09:48
      +8

      As stupid as it seems, it is usually cheaper to buy good NAS drives in an enclosure for cheaper than buying the actual non-white-labeled internal drive. Yes, it makes no sense but that is why shucking is a thing.

      • TightTerry on 09/06/2020 - 12:52

        Never understood this either. Makes no sense and ive never heard from anyone that is able to explain why it is cheaper.

        • thatguyfromthatplace on 09/06/2020 - 14:21

          The theory is that these drives are enterprise grade ones that didn't quite make the cut, so instead of junking them they just disable a platter here or a read head there and ship them as white label drives. The other reason is that the warranty is not as long, so there's less potential future cost for the company to hedge against.

  • mostlygordon on 09/06/2020 - 10:08

    Damn, it will only let me buy 3. Thanks, Op…

  • BryceW on 09/06/2020 - 10:59
    +2

    Thank you for your sacrifice of purchasing so the price would drop OP.

  • boretentsu on 09/06/2020 - 11:28
    +1

    I've been watching this closely post covid around March. Just be aware the price has been sliding down slowly from $250.

    https://au.camelcamelcamel.com/product/B07D5V2ZXD?context=se…

  • mostlygordon on 09/06/2020 - 11:31

    Just did a bit of reading and not all NAS units supply 3.3V. Looks like I don't need the tape trick in my ReadyNAS. Worth checking before you tape or glue:) What software is recommended for testing these before shucking?

  • B3 on 09/06/2020 - 11:39

    Aussie dollar is surging over 70c at the moment so waiting a day or two should save a few dollars in principle.

    • mostlygordon on 09/06/2020 - 11:43

      Hopefully wait a day or two lets me buy another;-) I need four… Bear in mind you can cancel if they haven't shipped and reorder. I saved a few bucks on a WD SN750 this way a while back. True OzBargainer!

  • monchee on 09/06/2020 - 12:48

    Do people buy two at a time? I'm looking to build a NAS not urgent. But want to.

    Can't I just start with one then build from there? Probably an UnRaid build.

    • jaymzrsa on 09/06/2020 - 13:23
      +1

      From what I have heard, with this model you will get a possibility of 2 different drives (3 if you manage to actually get the original Red drives). By getting 2 at the same time, you will have a better shot of getting 2 of the same model as presumably, they will have come out of the same factory. If you are going to UnRaid, from my pretty limited knowledge of it, it will make little difference.

    • Radiskull on 10/06/2020 - 12:12
      +1

      Let us know when you decide on some drives. I'm also looking to build..

  • leetguy101 on 09/06/2020 - 13:23

    What tests do you need to run to make sure it works in your NAS?

    • TightTerry on 09/06/2020 - 14:02

      Plug it in and see if it works?

      I think people are referring to testing the device before shucking in a NAS to ensure the the disc doesn’t have any bad sectors or damage etc that way it can be sent back and you haven’t damaged your warranty.

      NAS is a broad term so the best test for your NAS before you buy it is to google/research the drive you are buying and the NAS you have and see if its compatible and will work well.

    • toxicity11 on 09/06/2020 - 15:28

      I will always crystaldisk info, WD Tools full scan the drive before shucking.

      As for knowing if it's compatible with your NAS is broad. Typically it's best to use all of the same drives, or at least the same RPM and cache size. Once you start mixing and matching brands, firmwares etc it can be a "bit" dicey

      • bargaingod123 on 09/06/2020 - 17:07

        I believe using the same drives bought together is actually not a good idea that it increases the possibility more than one drive fails at the same time.

        • TightTerry on 10/06/2020 - 18:46

          Buying the same drives is recommended for consistency. However you are right that you should try and avoid buying all your drives at once or from the same retailer if you can. The theory being that there is a high chance that these drives have all been manufactured in the same batch. If you were to receive a dodgy batch then there is a risk all the drives could die at a similar time and you wont have any redundancy.

  • BigLeviathan on 17/06/2020 - 09:29

    For NAS, wouldn't it better of getting the official NAS drive, such as Seagate IronWolf 8TB NAS Internal Hard Drive HDD?

    Yes, it would cost you more but it comes with a 3 years warranty, in case it failed?

    ** price ex prime subscription and yes this is a rough calculation and someone might complain about this :)

    • jaymzrsa on 17/06/2020 - 11:30

      It's a risk vs reward question. The WD Red 8Tb is a perfect drive for a NAS as it isn't SMR so you will get good performance out of it. It is also significantly 30% cheaper per drive and if you are using it for a NAS, the assumption here is that you are working with some form of redundancy (most likely RAID). Having RAID will significantly reduce the risk of data loss if a drive does fail. From my experience, drives will fail fast or carry on chugging away. In the 10+ years of having a NAS, I've luckily not had a single drive fail on me. So in my opinion, the 12-month warranty is probably OK. If they drive fails, hopefully it fails fast and dies in that first year. Otherwise, by that time, hopefully, the drives continue to fall in price and you can scoop up a new one for a lot less. So I think your statement is correct. Yes, it is better to get an Ironwolf and if they were priced identically I know I would pick those, but when you factor in that you are buying multiple drives that 30% extra hurts a lot more and won't necessarily negate failure but you've got 3 years knowing you won't have to outlay more cash for replacements.

      • BigLeviathan on 17/06/2020 - 13:52

        Wow I must have been unlucky here, been using NAS for the past 3-4 years (RAID-1), need to send WD Red 8TB for warranty claim twice (soon to be the third time - waiting on the WD Disk check result now).

        One thing I did not consider when I made the above calculation is the postage to RMA the drive to Asia, which is around $40-$50 mark from Melbourne (including insurance)…I think it might eventually better off getting the WD elements one now…unless Amazon Australia can provide reply postpaid for RMA?

        • jaymzrsa on 17/06/2020 - 14:29

          So with the Amazon USA stuff bought through Amazon AU, I believe the RMA is handled through AU and they will provide you with a prepaid label. You don't pay a cent.

          • BigLeviathan on 17/06/2020 - 17:01

            @jaymzrsa: What happen if you need to rma item and you are no longer a prime member? Would they still provide the prepaid mail?

      • garetz on 24/06/2020 - 03:39

        Actually, the cheaper a drive is the more you can buy, negating the need for warranty, as you will have readily available replacements. Warranty becomes a moot point.

        If you are saving 30%, for ever 3 drives you can get 1 free, if you have 1 in 4 failures over the life of the drives, then it pays for itself. Obviously making sure you backup all your valuable data.

        • mostlygordon on 24/06/2020 - 23:52

          Have been looking for a cheap 24TB backup plan;-)

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