Seems like a pretty good deal for a flag ship. Cheapest price ever.
But still a crapton of money for a phone. Best camera on a phone yet. No google apps but workarounds. Enjoy the mud slinging.
Don't forget cashback and referrals. End up saving a lot more.
Referee gets $2 in coupons. Referrer gets 10% off (if referee spends over US$10)
Check the latest comment, doesn't work anymore
@Korban Dallas: Don't wanna spend over $1k for a phone and then having to fix it every few weeks or months
@ln28909: Fair enough. I honestly would miss chromecast and Google maps.
Don't like how they are locked and the price but appeals to some people.
@ln28909: Totally agree; honestly not worth the stress. I felt adventurous and bought a Xiaomi, and even though it was just $250 I'd never go there again.
It was just constant daily wrestling and stress with a buggy ROM for two years I'll never get back, and I learnt to just stick with Apple, Samsung, etc.
@clem: That's just unlucky I guess. Been using a Xiaomi mi max2 for 2 years now and it's perfect. 5200mah battery. Still get a solid 2 days of battery useage or 6 hrs streaming YouTube.
Google, chrome, Google play and authenticator is working fine. I'm just using stock rom with regular updates.
Hoping to use it for another two years.
@nobro25: Me, too! I love this phone. I paid a whopping $199 for it. It's plenty fast for what I do, large print when surfing (don't even need my glasses), days between recharges. Knock-on-wood, this little baby keeps going strong.
@Circly: Google maps still works though? Just go through a tough install process for a $500 discount on a similar hardware. I'd buy it
Thanks a lot for your link
How ironic, posting how to circumvent the GMS block on Youtube, who is apparently owned by Google, lol!
Sorry this does not seem to work any more.
I might be missing something, but if I can jam the Play Store on my BlackBerry Q20, surely you can on this too, no?
I know Google stopped being buddy buddy with them, but not much else, so I may be missing something, but surely a quick APK sideload of the store would solve most issues?
Edit: Beaten by literally 8 seconds.
I have owned a P40 Pro for about 1 month. In summary, it is awesome … so here is the summary ….
Notifications suck … even in the Huawei App Gallery. Surprising and disappointing. Most apps are configured to use Google Firebase Cloud Messaging hence why the notifications are broken. There is a simple install of microG (small & simple open source app) which fixes notification on most apps (but not all).
If you want to keep using all the Google suite apps, then you need to hack on Google Mobile Services. Some people are reporting success but others are not. It is not simple. Hence if you love Google, then do not buy. Save some time in your life and avoid.
If you want to de-google your life a bit, and then with the microG app for notifications, it is actually pretty a very cool phone.
I am very happy with the P40 Pro. I still use youtube with NewPipe, Amazon Music, Aurora App Store, Aptoide App Store, Skype, WhatsApp, Amazon Photos. All my other apps are working fine.
Can't wait to upgrade to the new Mate 40 (without google apps) when it is released in Sep/Oct 2020 :)
Why stop there, $150 would be better.
I thought I was cruel enough 😂
why pay $150, ask them to pay you $150 with the phone
Does this phone come with free spyware?
Yes for those suffering from persecution mania, like you.
No, much of the Google integration is removed.
Always wonder, do we have to say "Hey Xi" or "Hail Xi" to activate voice command on this phone !!?
Need to go into a concentration camp first!
@nadan: You're right; they don't. But Führer Xi Jinping does; China still runs the Masanjia concentration camp and the countless Xinjiang prisons for slave labour and organ harvesting.
@[Deactivated]: I was one of these angry youth at my 20's, been lived there for 20 years. Things are complicated. The status of Xinjiang Muslin in China society kinda like European immigration before CCP took actions in Xinjiang.
@[Deactivated]: That's a bit rich coming from a colony of convicts that destroyed this country's Indigenous people. Also, don't you believe that The US government or our government are tracking us as well? Whistleblowers like Snowden and others have exposed NSA and CIA exploiting mass population using mass surveillance. Remember Guantanamo Bay, Iraq's non-existent WMD, etc? Facebook-Cambridge Analytica data scandal? Cambridge Analytica (owned by the hedge fund billionaire Robert Mercer, and headed at the time by Trump’s key adviser Steve Bannon) worked with Donald Trump’s election team and the winning Brexit campaign harvested millions of Facebook profiles of US voters, in one of the tech giant’s biggest ever data breaches, and used them to build a powerful software program to predict and influence choices at the ballot box. The British also invaded India and America was stolen from the Native population (Tribes like Comanche, Navajo etc). They used slave labour from Africa and other countries.
@El Psy Kongroo: That's some nice whataboutism there.
You're lucky your comments aren't wiped out by the Great Aussie Firewall like in China.
@El Psy Kongroo: No, every person knows about the Wests' colonial past.
It's surprising that Chinese people don't know about China's (historical and current). Or if they know, they block it out or deny it.
invaded India
Yes, China, too, is guilty of this.
China is like a persistent mosquito: historically and currently. #teamJapan
Sigh… Too many things to list.
That's a bit rich coming from a colony of convicts
I didn't know that my part-Chinese heritage ancestors were convicts! Oh, the contrary… They're quite the colonialists!
Good quality IP theft costs money these days, it seems.
But $1600 for S20 ultra vs this? I'd rather $500 towards the new ps5
Unfortunately PS5 is rumoured to cost at least about AUD 900.
Seriously waiting for the P40 Pro+ with 10x optical zoom and other hybrid capabilities. Both phones have great stabilisation and google store isn't a problem for me.
I guess xiaomi is also coming with a 10X optical. That will also have play store and much cheaper.
Yes if going down this path, the P40 Pro+ is the phone to get.
I'm not ready to go GMS free yet but I do like the idea of not being addicted to GMS. Just not enough to do anything about it :)
Its not about addiction but convinience. There is no point in installing linux just becuase windows is convinient.
The one thing I couldn't leave GMS for is Google Pay. I use it for everything, COVID-19 only emphasised how valuable a tool it is. I know Huawei will have a HMS alternative at some point, Huawei Pay. If that comes and gains support I'll definitely consider it but I suspect Australia will be left out like always and it just won't be properly supported.
Maybe one day when I have Google Pay on my watch, but unsure if that still needs your phone to function? Probably.
@John Doh: I own the same phone. Love it, just a shame about what's happened. IMO they make the best phone out there if you like cameras.
@Click_It: The night time and zoom are very good. Its the day time photos, the faces look grainy as compared to samsung galaxy S8+ that my sister has. Compared on many shots, the s8+ wins in every damn shot by a HUGE margin. However this does not happen in bokeh. Damn Shame. Also it over exposes if the subject is in the sun. I feel sad i paid so much for this phone.
https://www.dxomark.com/huawei-p30-pro-camera-review/
Search for "unnatural face rendering"
This happens even in outdoors on most of the shots :(
@Click_It: I will give you another example: Comparision between samsung and p30 pro. Dont look at her face, but look at the bottles above her head. You find the bottles noisy? Well that kind of noise is applied on the face whenever i take photos of people.
https://cdn.dxomark.com/wp-content/uploads/medias/post-27399…
https://cdn.dxomark.com/wp-content/uploads/medias/post-27399…
Its not a faulty phone because the photos come out well in bokeh mode without any noise. Its just wrong processing.
Lol, or just buy one the Samsung S20s or Oppo Find X2 and get an Australian warranty and Google Services. As per usual, loads of people voting up Huawei phones but none buying them.
Any idea when bangood will stock Vivo X50 Pro+?
All deals posted for Huawei mobiles MUST clearly mention the fact that Google services do not included on Huawei mobiles. You can ofcourse sideload those, but I won't spend more than $1k on a phone and then go through pains every few weeks to install/update Google services. And ofcourse infringement of IPR too.
So google service is a MUST HAVE standard now?
YES.
@littlelooloo, read my comment above carefully. I didn’t say that Google Services is a MUST HAVE. I just said that deals MUST mention about absence of Google Services.
Like NFC and band 28
@Korban Dallas: 5G still is a 'nice to have feature' but B28, NFC and Google Services is a need for most of the users.
Back then: no
Now: yes.
On Android by now, Google Services not just limited to App Store and bunch of apps, it also provides Security patch (via Play Store), Notification Services and some certifications (SafetyNet, Widevine). A device without Google Play certified (like Huawei) generally suck in notifications (no Google notification services, apps need to keep in the background to receive notifications), couldn't use Google Pay (failed SafetyNet), bs Play Store clone, no in-app purchases, and couldn't even watch Netflix/D+/Prime Video in HD (Widewine L3).
So basically, if you live in China where Google ain't sh*t, then you are fine, if not, then is it really worth it?
Nothing against you OP. But the phone is still too pricey without Google services capabilities.
Also, very hard to resell in the future as well.
This site is filled with too many people who just don't want or like opposite opinion. They neg for even a reasonable argument. I agree phone is little overpriced compared to completion and limitations it has.
That's a valid point but if you can't point to someone selling cheaper I don't think it's a valid reason to neg.
Post a better price or change your negative vote.
The votes are for the deal not your personal opinion of the product.
No google services is a valid down vote for a phone over $1k.
I'm sorry. These are facts. Not much about personal opinion.
A good price is not only about the phone's spec but also the services it could provide.
Not to mention:
1. Install app without using Google play store would increase the risk of downloading viruses.
2. Perform a significant update for an app would require to install the apk again.
You need to tell us where you have seen a cheaper price.
Voting Guidelines;
Negative Vote
- The deal is not the cheapest available
- Issue with product
- Issue with retailer
Being the cheapest isn't the single criteria of a bargain.
Although I do like the idea of the P40 hardware, I wouldn't take a gamble at this price. There's just no chance I'd be spending in excess of 1k for a phone where on-going support (warranty) from both the manufacturer and retailer is in question.
@jwh: The product preforms as advertised without Google services. On what basis is the neg?
I don't think free PC games are good value, but I don't neg those ozbargains.
@matt-ozb: I'm not complaining about lack of Google services as I know it's not there. But it is a deal breaker for almost everyone, and you could argue it cripples the phone for most peoples everyday use as a smart phone.
I personally would not purchase this knowing there would be a hassle with support if something goes wrong. Go to their website, and click on contact us, then try and find a way to get phone support, messenger support, or live chat. It is not an option with after-sales support. You could argue email evidence is probably best if you need to dispute something, but Banggood is not somewhere I would feel confident to spend large amounts where there is limited after sales support and no statutory protections.
Agreed hard to sell. No idea what's going to happen to Huawei in the future unfortunately. 10x zoom looks intresti g though.
Tight FOV I hope can get those huge moon shots
Price is really good.
Yeah, I agree
It's a crippled device in Australia.
These posts really need to disappear
Amen, just a CCP crapware phone
100% Flykiwiguy. By buying Chinese telecommunications devices we're financially supporting a bully state whilst allowing them to spy on us. Plenty of CCP fanboys on ozbargain.
100% Leinster. By buying Chinese made devices we're financially supporting a bully state whilst funding their military budget. Plenty of CCP fanboys in Australia.
And 5G spreads COVID-19 right? Haha
Or simply put 'No Google Services' in the title or highlight in the description, but apparently no poster wants to.
Totally disagree with your comment,please check there are 128 upvotes for Huawei mate 20pro
P40 Pro got
97 up votes
0 down votes
… and a heap more expensive.
https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/531606
And
83 up
0 down
https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/534580
Go.figure.
This was before the whole world closed and we all turned into open racists. China included. Sad day when free trade that pushes society forward is stifled by fire of racism sparked so easily by an ember of hate.
Vote with your feet. I can't, don't have enough spare cash to go the anti-world path
Can't believe anyone would buy it.
Piece of junk without google Services
I can think of plenty of other better ways to waste 1k
Much better to buy Sammy S10/S20 instead of wasting 1k.
S10 is worse. S20 ultra is more expensive. Based on if savings are worth the hassle to install Google right? Don't people have a choice?
Some may find an hour is worth a few hundred dollars.
Will it worth it if you paid 1k for a device without proper notification (still workaround, but not all apps are working), lack of contactless payment service (unless you're with Commbank, which also offer their own Android contactless payment) and SD video streaming (certificate issues and can't be fixed). Plus, the bootloader is locked, no guarantee security updates and any workaround could be patched by Google some day. It's not just an hour eh.
Not all iOS apps work on Android either. I chose Android anyway.
Yes, if you want to use Google Pay, you have to use Google certified. Or just tap the card.
What's this about video streaming?
It's what it's worth to the customer at the time. Not all people who buy this would have "wasted" 1k. They get the facts and make their own judgements
@plague69: so if you paid 1k+ for a superb screen then only able watch SD streaming on it? aight your choice then.
not all iOS work on Android, sure, but this device running Android and still can't run Android apps properly (FYI, cab-hailing services that using Google Maps API won't work, and some banks have SafetyNet check so this phone can't run them). Currently, the workaround are not allowed multi Google accounts/GBusiness account and some exchange mail issues. tl;dr: this phone can't streaming in HD, can't run some bank apps, can't use business account, that's a lot of tradeoff hey. (ex-Mate 30 Pro user here, speak from real experience)
the point is, all those workaround could be fixed by Google (they did a few time, and even Huawei are trying to stop people from install GApps) so you could save a few bucks but then need to wait for any patches or exploits everytime they fix it, it is not really 'just an hour' like you said. You can argue that this is the best camera phone on the market, agreed, but saying that bypass Google is that easy peasy lol hell no.
@KanTakahashi: But ti has a 2,640 x 1,200 screen. What do you mean It can't stream?
I wouldn't count an hour as being easy. Never said it's easy. I did however said it would take about an hour.
Maybe this article will explain more than the back and forth. Then people can decide for themselves: https://ausdroid.net/2020/03/10/what-apps-will-your-huawei-p…
@plague69: Because without Google Widevine DRM certification (like this phone) Netflix, D+, Prime Video could only be able to stream maximum at 480p, no 4K or HDR or whatsoever no matter how great the screen is.
https://www.androidauthority.com/widevine-explained-821935/
Just curious, what’s stopping Google to publish their apps on Huawei’s App Store? Isn’t that problem solved?
Google isn't allowed to cooperate with huawei on USA orders.
It's up to the publishers and they won't since it's not going to be worth it for them until Huawei can prove itself. For Huawei to dominate apps, they first have to do it in China and they have not done that yet, so if ever possible, it won't be soon.
Huawei's new operating system structure is very interesting though, compared to Android and iOS. All mobile OS's will go down this path in the future
We need a neutral App Store, not the one which obviously controlled by US government.
Absolutely . Maybe a Chinese government run fork of android ?
Amazing price for the hardware. No gms is a shame.
Still no Google Play Services. I personally couldn't live with that when spending that much.
Good phone otherwise, but kills the experience and I would imagine resale value