Patriot Viper 4 Blackout 2x8GB 3200CL16 DDR4 Memory $99 Delivered @ Gadget Lifestyle via Amazon AU

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Seller is "Gadget Lifestyle AU" but it is fulfilled by Amazon so returns and delivery should be very easy. According to this review the images of the DRAM chips show "DTDR" marked on them which means it's Hynix DJR. From a bit of googling it seems to be similar to Hynix CJR but scales further with voltage making it probably the best IC you can buy short of Rev.E and B-die. I can't guarantee it will be DJR, but it's still a good price for 3200CL16 memory.

Also Viper Steel for $99 too if that's your thing.

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  dv1den on 08/08/2020 - 15:12

  +1

  Should probably add 16GB (2x8GB) to the title.

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    Void on 08/08/2020 - 15:14

    +1

    16GB, 2 spaces and 2 brackets makes the title too long for my liking lol. I put 2x8GB.

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  vikavish on 08/08/2020 - 16:01

  -1

  The 4000mhz in this range is bdie btw

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    Kelvin on 08/08/2020 - 16:11

    +1

    Risky.. originally the 4000mhz chips was 19-19-19-39
    https://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/patriot_viper_steel_40…

    the lot advertised are now 19-21-21-41 .. meaning the ICs might have changed..

    If they are proper old school B-dies.. there are well priced..

    buts there's reasonable chance they are the poor hynix cousins instead.

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      vikavish on 08/08/2020 - 16:49

      Dont fret, they are indeed b die.

      https://imgur.com/4Rz5Vcl

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        Kelvin on 08/08/2020 - 18:08

        Prepared to be burned if you buy these..

        the Thaiphoon screen shot above is of the older batch with 19-19-19-39 timings..

        the current Patriot Viper 4000 are now 19-21-21-41.. so very unlikely to be the original series of Samsung B-die
        given especially manufacturing of them was continued a year or so ago..

        https://www.techpowerup.com/255165/samsung-kills-production-…

        Memory makers often changes ICs according to what is cheaper / available at the time..

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          vikavish on 08/08/2020 - 19:03

          +1

          @Kelvin: Look at the date, I took the screenshot today. What are you on about

          Bought the 4000mhz kit 2 weeks ago from same listing that reported the 19-21-21 timings.

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            Kelvin on 08/08/2020 - 20:45

            @vikavish: Well you definitely got an older 19-19-19-39 batch..

            not the current 19-21-21-41 ..

            No guarantees for the next buyer though..

            I recently bought 4 sets of "identfical" Dominator Plats 3466MHz from Amazon Au..

            I received three "samsung b die" and one "Micron Set

            There is never any guarantees

            Here are the current Patriot line up..
            https://viper.patriotmemory.com/products/viper-4-blackout-dd…

            note the omission of the 4133 and 4400 speeds now..

            Here is the Specs of the current 4000 MHz sticks..
            https://viper.patriotmemory.com/products/viper-4-blackout-dd…

            I think you got really lucky, and got an old set… the question is how many old sets in this vendor inventory and is it just pot luck or all they all b-dies

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              vikavish on 08/08/2020 - 21:01

              +1

              @Kelvin: The kits you bought are not exclusive b die.

              https://www.hardwareluxx.de/community/threads/die-ultimative…

              Whereas the 4000mhz patriot kits are reportedly exclusive b-die.

              Looking online, seems like even from the beginning, they've been reported as 19-21-21 only to show as 19-19-19 (https://www.reddit.com/r/overclocking/comments/e9mpwr/patrio…).

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                Kelvin on 09/08/2020 - 00:13

                @vikavish: Did you get the Viper Steel Series or the Viper Blackout

                the Viper Steel Series is 19-19-19-39..
                https://assets.website-files.com/5cdb2ee0b102f96c3906500f/5d…

                the Viper 4 -Blackout is 19-21-21-41
                https://assets.website-files.com/5cdb2ee0b102f96c3906500f/5d…

                Most of the reviews are for the Viper Steel Series..

                But if they are all Samsung b-die.. then they are a good buy..

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                  vikavish on 09/08/2020 - 12:27

                  @Kelvin: I got the blackout, which shows the 19-19-19 timings in thaiphoon burner.

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  PowerPC on 08/08/2020 - 16:21

  I'm a PC builder and have purchased these in bulk in the past, I found them to be very frustrating due to Bsod and other incompatibilities issues.

  I've got a small pile of these sitting in my room that I have to return, I think around 1/5th of these gave me issues.

  I'd spend a little more and avoid the potential headache.

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    Void on 08/08/2020 - 16:22

    What CPU?

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      PowerPC on 08/08/2020 - 16:23

      Ryzen 1600af, 2600, 3300x and maybe one or 2 more… can't exactly remember from the top of my head.

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        Void on 08/08/2020 - 16:24

        3300X should have no issues, the Zen+ CPUs possibly.

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          PowerPC on 08/08/2020 - 16:25

          @Void: Most likely you won't have issues (even on 2000 series), but for someone like my self who builds a lot of PC's it gets frustrating after a while.

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            Void on 08/08/2020 - 16:28

            @PowerPC: I'd be very surprised if you got so many duds. It seems RAM is the most high risk component, so it's possible.

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              PowerPC on 08/08/2020 - 17:35

              @Void: As Yuri mentioned below it may have something with the SpecTek A-die they use…

              I have had conversations with the previous distributor of patriot ram and they gave up on them due to the number of returns coming back.

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    MuddyClear on 08/08/2020 - 16:55

    I assume it works better on intel systems

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  Yuri Lowell on 08/08/2020 - 16:40

  I have these (bought earlier in the year). They've been rock solid at XMP settings on my 3600. Thaiphoon reports they are SpecTek A-die. I'm not an expert and I couldn't find much information about them except that SpecTek is lower binned Micron. Maybe Thaiphoon is wrong but they seem to be really cheap. I guess okay if you don't plan to overclock outside advertised settings.

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    Void on 08/08/2020 - 17:31

    Same model?

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      Yuri Lowell on 08/08/2020 - 17:46

      Yup, even bought from the same seller, although it was back in Jan/Feb. This is my Thaiphoon report: https://imgur.com/a/10umFjk

      I tried overclocking them with the Ryzen DRAM calculator but had to reset CMOS every time and didn't bother after. Haven't had issues with XMP though and they were pretty cheap so can't complain too much.

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        Void on 08/08/2020 - 17:49

        +1

        Have you tried DJR timings? If it works then it may just be incorrect SPD, quite common.