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Gerintech Double Powerpoint with 2 USB Ports $12.99 (Was $19.99) + Delivery ($0 with Prime/ $39 Spend) @ Amazon AU

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SAA Certified︱*Certified Number: SAA-190519-EA. Compliance Standards: AS/NZS 3112:2017, AS/NZS 3100:2017 Inc A1, AS/NZS 60950.1:2015.
2 USB Ports︱* Charge your mobile devices without bulky power adaptors. These ports are covered to prevent dust accumulation.
Double Powerpoint︱*This Australian switched dual 3 pin Socket has individual On/Off switches to turn off devices when not in use. It provides a nominal voltage of 250 volts at a maximum of 10 amps.
USB Applications︱*USB socket is suitable for charging most IOS, Android, Windows Phone or tablets.
Product Size︱*118mm(W)72mm(H)35mm(D). Mounting Centre : 84mm.

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  • Thanks, been wanting to grab one for a while

  • +3 votes

    The USB sockets are always on though right? Even if nothing is plugged in?

  • Do these do fast charging?

    • 2.1A is pretty fast

      • Not in 2020. 2.1A is basically the minimum for modern phones

        Fast regular USB is 2.4A and most phones and chargers now support charging with QC3.0 or USB-PD

      • To me 2.1A per port charging is acceptable, like someone said more of a convenience than the new fast charging.

        But 2.1A total for the two ports i think is not acceptable.

      • I could probably live with 2.1A per port but 2.1A total for both port is a deal breaker for me

  • Easy to install without electrician?

    • +4 votes

      As it says in the image. Please get a licensed electrician to install this.

    • Yes

    • +10 votes

      Yes, but not legal.

      • Legal for 99% of people, including NZ, which uses this socket type.

        But why do we care about that? You might as well say it is illegal to operate the switch on the Sabbath. Same practical significance.

        OK, I guess i tend to agree with "if you have to ask, don't do it" advice.

        • Until you have a house fire and the investigator find the remains of it in the ash. (Yes, they can do this.) Questions start to get asked and if you can't answer them satisfactorily, and can't provide evidence the socket was installed correctly by a licenced electrician, then your insurance company won't cover it. Plus, you can also be up for prosecution for doing unauthorised work. Can you afford to risk that? This scenario also doesn't take into consideration to danger to you and your family - can you afford to risk THAT?

          • @Chazzozz: What makes changing a socket more dangerous in Australia than in New Zealand?

          • @Chazzozz: Except this work is done every day by home owners in North America and this doomsday scenario doesn’t happen.

            Check the statistics on home electric shock and electrocution.

            If Australia treated mechanical work the same as electrical, it would be illegal to change your tyres or install brake pads. You’d be prosecuted for owning car jacks or a ladder.

          • @Chazzozz: I am wondering about "cant provide evidence the socket was installed correctly by a licensed electrician, then your insurance company won't cover it", do we need to keep the Certificate?

            We purchased an established house 15 years ago and I cant remember we have this kind of docs.
            What would happen if THAT risk happened?
            How to prove to our insurance company?

            • @eegos: Generally, if you buy a pre-existing house then you should have received documents to the effect that everything was built/installed/modified according to code, so that should suffice for anything that was done before you bought it. Essentially, the onus will then fall on whomever you paid to do the building inspection on your behalf as they look for this kind of thing. Anything you get done yourself should also have certification, or at least an invoice or statement of work from the tradesperson, and you will need to hang onto that for your own records or to pass on to the next owner.

              BTW, I am not a professional electrician or a lawyer, so if you have genuine concerns then I'd advise speaking to one of them.

            • @eegos:

              do we need to keep the Certificate?

              Yeah it's right there in my burn… oh wait.

          • @Chazzozz: See further down where ashpete02 gives professional advice about it. My comment was more to get people to think before they try undertaking this kind of work. Yes, the chance of electrocution and fire these days is probably low, but if you do it you need to understand the risks. You can get away with it 100 times in a row, but it only takes that one time for it to go very wrong.

            [Edit: note to self…don't reply to own comments or that breaks threading.]

          • @Chazzozz:

            can't provide evidence the socket was installed correctly by a licenced electrician

            I can't remember the plumber that unclogged my toilet last week, let alone the electrician that installed a socket last year. As if people keep evidence of every tradesperson that's ever visited their house.

            As for your house burning down, it's just as likely the socket could be faulty, than just faulty installation. It would be difficult to pinpoint that issue. Do you think an electrician's liability insurer is just going to cough up money in this scenario? Hell no.

            I'm not suggesting that people start installing their own sockets, since it's illegal to do so, just calling you out for your non-sense post.

            • @salmon123: All I can say is I've seen this happen, more than once. It's not a matter of public record so I can't point you to examples, thus you can treat my comment as just a bunch of hot air if you wish.

              • @Chazzozz:

                All I can say is I've seen this happen, more than once

                Yes - I believe you, people's houses burn down all the time, due to faulty wiring (bad DIY jobs, too old, poorly installed by a professional).

                Being asked to provide evidence that a socket was installed by an electrician is non-sense. I'm sure the DIY installers confessed long before any evidence was requested.

                It's not a matter of public record so I can't point you to examples

                How is it not a matter of public record, if someone's house burnt down and the fire brigade/police/ambulance were called?

                As for criminal charges over negligent DIY electrical work, I just don't see anything on a google search, leading me to conclude that no one has been made an example of yet.

                • @salmon123:

                  Being asked to provide evidence that a socket was installed by an electrician is non-sense.

                  No, it's not. If an investigator finds evidence of non-compliance they can, and will, ask questions. I have assisted with such investigations and I'm simply amazed at what they can find it the rubble. It's really quite a fascinating process. And, yes, a lot of people will readily confirm when shown the evidence, but if an investigator is unsure of your replies they can, and will, ask for more information. If you can verify it you're in the clear, but insurance companies will pounce upon any tiny shred of evidence to prove they don't need to cover something. It's always good to keep in mind that insurance companies don't make money by paying claims, so if they can wiggle out of it - they will.

                  How is it not a matter of public record

                  Oh, sure, the incidents I've been involved in are likely recorded somewhere, but what goes on between insurance companies and individuals is not public. As for criminal negligence, I'm also not aware of any but that's not what my point was - my point was to illustrate that if you do this on a large scale (e.g. replace all the powerpoints in your home or business yourself) then regulatory authorities would take a very dim view of this, and may potentially take action. As I said elsewhere, I'm not a lawyer so if this is a genuine concern you need to consult one.

              • @Chazzozz: Can you explain, how an home inspector at purchase would know a powerpoint from the previous owner was installed by a qualified electrician?

                They dont remove every powerpoint and check the wiring. Even then if it was installed correctly there isnt a fingerprinting system linked to qualified electricians to check who put the wires into the back of the powerpoint. And were they still qualified when the did the install.

                It could be even the apprentice, who the electrician rechecked, or not.

                While not advocating self install, you are just making some of this up and that's just fear mongering.

                • @RockyRaccoon: No, I'm not making it up and, no, I'm not trying to fear-monger. Let me just put it this way:

                  If you want to do electrical work yourself that's your choice. Just look at the risks and weigh up if you're comfortable taking them and accepting any consequences. If you aren't, seek help from a professional.

                  I'm not trying to scare anyone, I'm just trying to arm people with knowledge so they can make their own judgement call.

                  Oh, as for building inspectors - when you buy a house and a building inspector is engaged it's their signature that goes on the form to say it's all in good order. You'll need to ask one them what they do and how far they go.

                  • @Chazzozz: The usual Building & Pest inspection is pretty useless TBH and only really uncovers the most basic of basic issues. You basically sign any liability away from the inspector… and fair enough too! A full inspection taking on full liability would basically require the entire house be disassembled and rebuilt let alone costing many thousands. I think the last time we had a quote for a full, detailed building inspection on a property we weren't sure about it was several thousand dollars but they still made sure they weren't liable for quite a lot… plus it was time based anyway so only covered you for a year or two.

                    Interestingly we didn't include a building & pest inspection in our last property purchase. Firstly due to the above and secondly we quickly learnt it wasn't the 'done thing' in the area we were buying as it was (& always will be) a sellers market so the seller simply picks & chooses the path of least resistence. Totally our risk… but that's OK :)

                  • @Chazzozz: Your statement said

                    Generally, if you buy a pre-existing house then you should have received documents to the effect that everything was built/installed/modified according to code

                    (My emphasis on the everything)

                    Most purchase building inspections (apart from new builds which is a different certification), dont cover anything concealed within the walls such as insulation, plumbing and electric wiring.

                    Unless of course it has some external indicator, like dampness.

                    Again as I stated, if you want the kind of certication that you are discussing here, it would require the seller to have certifications to prove and existing work was also done to code BY a person certified.

                    So your response to eegos is simply misleading, as its a certificate that doesnt exist or one that no one buying an existing house is required to get.

                    Again, not saying they should use this to justify doing their own work, but dont say something thats not applicable

                  • @Chazzozz: I have been through 5 house purchases every one had a building inspection, none of them included details on electrical work. They tended to look at the structure. i am sure if there was exposed wiring that looked dangerous they would mention it though, however typically being builders they themselves would not be qualified to pull power points from the wall to validate. Also their small print pretty much protects them from any defects found that they did not report on. Not suggesting people should install power points themselves just pointing out that if the previous owner did and your house burns down there is no way the building inspector will pay anything.

                    • @tomfool: Okay, point taken. I can't go back and edit that comment any more so hopefully most folks reading this thread will have the stamina to read all the way down.

                  • @Chazzozz:

                    insurance companies don't make money by paying claims, so if they can wiggle out of it

                    As I said above, they can try to wiggle out of legit claim, even when you've done nothing wrong too … so that's a topic for another thread.

                    I'm not trying to fear-monger … I'm not trying to scare anyone

                    I think you were with your non-sense and now you're backpedaling.

                    • @salmon123: Sorry? I don't understand the personal attack here. I've agreed with the point regarding building inspectors because other people gave a compelling argument backed up with what I saw as a factual description. That's not 'backpedaling'.

                      I'm not trying to scare anyone away from the deal in the OP, I'm just trying to provide a public service to people contemplating undertaking electrical work on their own. There are risks involved - ensure you know what those are and make an informed decision as to whether it's safe to proceed.

            • @salmon123: The issue is not the common sense of the problem at hand, the issue is the lack of common sense of insurance companies

              • @JamesLucas:

                the issue is the lack of coming sense of insurance companies

                That's a separate topic for another time. Even if you did everything by the book, an insurance company can still deny your claim or drag it out for years, with no apparent reason.

                • @salmon123: Just an fyi for y'all. On most electrical devices there is a date of manufacture imprinted (usually on the plastic on most modern day).

                  Thats where they get ya, since the manufacture date devices would be different from the build date devices.

                  Also statute of limitations (15 years) should be the safe point for most unsure/no electrician installs that are not part of initial construction(but I aint a lawyer so consult a professional).

    • The hardest part I find about installing things like this is having enough space behind the wall or getting scews to line up.

    • Yes but my understanding is that should any issue occur in your house and the insurance for whatever reason ask to see receipts for the new looking sockets then you may have issues.
      In NZ like for like replacement is allowed but not in OZ.

      • It would be interesting to compare home fires in NZ vs in Australia. Then we should breakdown home fires due to negligent electrical work. Then we can see whether there is a real risk vs the Electricians guild making sure only they can install any wires anywhere to keep it expensive and 'exclusive'.

        If you have any engineering friends, I am pretty sure they can certify your work if you want to swap a socket out. Check though because otherwise you will be burnt to the cinders.

  • Still $19.99??

  • How easy is it to install something like this?

  • What the point in these build in USB ports where it not fast charge and the USB is always on which wasted Constance power?

    • +6 votes

      Some one set us up the bomb.

    • Many people (myself included) don't care about fast charge too much.
      You also realise that it will only draw the power if a USB device is plugged in, right? Depending on how it's set up, there's likely a small constant load, but that's likely insignificant.

      • +7 votes

        Many people (myself included) don't care about fast charge too much.

        The charger I use for my overnight phone charging isn't fast-charge as there is no point since I'm not waiting for it to recharge.

        Fast-charging all the time may reduce the lifespan of the battery too.

        • Exactly what I'm gonna use it for: overnight phone charge, and also use it in the bathroom for charging usb-powered devices, such as the Foreo

        • Fast-charging all the time may reduce the lifespan of the battery too.

          That's why your phone will charge the first 50% (varies on device) really fast and then after that it begins to slow down, they design them with this in mind.

          • +2 votes

            @Agret:

            That's why your phone will charge the first 50% (varies on device) really fast and then after that it begins to slow down, they design them with this in mind.

            That is actually just how litihium ion batteries work. The first part of the charging cycle (even for slow charging) is a constant current charge where the cell is able to accept a large amount of charge. Once the voltage hits 4.2V the charger must switch to constant voltage mode to give a saturation charge. Fast chargers can supply more current in the first phase which will let it reach e.g. 50% more quickly, but would result in a slower saturation charge.

            The concern is that since the charging circuit and the cell itself isn't 100% efficient, the more power you put in, the more waste heat will be generated. Heat degrades cells which could shorten the lifespan of the battery. It may not be by much so I don't mind using it, but the degradation might still be happening.

    • Amazing to plug your phone into the wall to charge overnight without a dumb (and ugly) wall charger taking up a space.

      Don't need fast charge to charge overnight.

      Lots of people's phones don't even have fast charge.

  • Cheap vs the Bunnings ones at $40 but Amazon reviews say mounting screws are thicker. When you get your electrician (cough cough) to install it, just keep the screws from the one you are taking out. Sounds like it will make the job a lot easier and quicker.

    Also 2.1A total for both ports…but hey, i dont think people use these for fast charge, more convenience.