Dell 27 7790 All-in-One Touch 10th Gen i5-10210U 8GB RAM 256GB SSD 1TB HDD $1119.20 Delivered @ Dell eBay

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pw2002au on 28/10/2020 - 14:00 ebay.com.au (630 clicks)
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Another all in one that I am so tempted to buy (but wont!) so please snap it up before I change my mind ..

This one stands out due to the touch screen and 27" size (even though 1920x1080). For the price and those who love an all-in-one clean setup this represents great value.

Processor
10th Generation Intel® Core™ i5-10210U Processor (6MB Cache, up to 4.2 GHz)
Windows 10 Home 64bit English
8GB, 8Gx1, DDR4, 2666MHz
Intel® UHD Graphics 620 with shared graphics memory
256GB M.2 PCIe NVMe Solid State Drive (Boot) + 1TB 5400 rpm 2.5" SATA Hard Drive (Storage
802.11ac 1x1 WiFi and Bluetooth
27-inch FHD (1920 x 1080) Narrow Border Infinity Touch Display with Wide Viewing Angle
1Y In-Home Hardware Service

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  Dearest77 on 28/10/2020 - 14:29

  -1

  all in one means big and slow.

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    skjoshi on 28/10/2020 - 14:41

    actually too slow with i5 and only 8gb ram…..

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      Dearest77 on 28/10/2020 - 14:45

      it is not suitable for desktop cpu because of the poor heat dissipation.

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        Gorian4 on 29/10/2020 - 03:47

        Sorry come again?

        More space usually means it's easier to design something to dissipate heat

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    Gnostikos on 28/10/2020 - 15:12

    all in one means big and slow.

    All-in-One means vendor-locked config, laptop-grade components that are usually non-user repairable/customisable, overheating-prone and lower reliability over time compared to an equivalent tower desktop PC.

    But you get a touch screen, so… whoopee-do.

    I never understood the appeal of these things but they seem to win over Apple users/former Apple users, soccer mums, the elderly and tech-illiterates.

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      muddrex on 28/10/2020 - 15:50

      iMac is also an all-in-one. If I have the budget that would be my 1st choice home computer.

      For these cheaper all-in-ones, their appeal is that they pretty much only take up the same space as the monitor so it looks good in a living room or even a simply study. Not everyone likes to have a large tower and believe it or not, most typical users do not customize their PC after purchase. Most people just needs something that works for every day browsing, some light word processing, emails, occasional light gaming and also to stream video/movies.

      For computers, ideally i would say to have at least 3 years of warranty so that you wouldn't need to worry about fixing/repairing yourself.

      But then, I think the touch screen on an all-in-one isn't very practical. My mom had one but no one ever uses the touch screen, esp when the touch screen experience is significantly inferior to what you'll experience on a tablet such as iPad.

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        feral on 28/10/2020 - 18:36

        Agreed, nothing wrong with an AIO if it fits an appropriate use case. Something similar suits the needs of my wife's parents just fine in terms of minimalism, desk space, aesthetics etc.

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        Gnostikos on 28/10/2020 - 19:05

        If I have the budget (and lack of common sense) that would be my 1st choice home computer.

        FTFY

        A $2,000 dollar, 21.5" inch, current-gen iMac comes with an i3, 8GB of RAM, 256GB SSD and a terrible Radeon Pro 555X.

        Versus, even a run-of-the-mil OEM pre-built tower from Dell that costs $320 dollars less and has effectively quadruple the performance, with plenty of money left over for a much bigger monitor. You need to be spending a whopping $3,549 dollars before you're in the realm of an iMac that is almost on the same footing as a $1,679 dollar OEM PC.

        And that Dell isn't even some eyesore of a case draped in tacky gamer aesthetics either. It's 36cm high and weighs 6.3kg. Hardly a large, space-consuming behemoth.

        That's not even touching custom-built options. If you went for a mini-ITX build then you could end up with something that is just as unnoticeable as an AIO in terms of total footprint with probably double the performance for this price point.

        Anyone who's first option for any PC is a Mac, doesn't know what the hell they're talking about.

        Most people just needs something that works for every day browsing, some light word processing, emails, occasional light gaming and also to stream video/movies.

        Then there's no point in buying what is effectively a laptop that's been crammed into the housing of an oversized monitor.

        AIOs are notoriously hardware fault-prone and when something goes wrong, you're either beholden to the OEM to fix it for an exorbitant cost when it's out of warranty or you can toss it. With a regular PC you can easily replace a faulty part (either yourself or have some paid service tech do it) and get it up and running in no time.

        For computers, ideally i would say to have at least 3 years of warranty so that you wouldn't need to worry about fixing/repairing yourself.

        The Dell in that deal can be upgraded to have a 3-year in-home, NBD warranty and still cost less than an iMac.

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          muddrex on 28/10/2020 - 21:48

          +1

          @Gnostikos: I see that you focused a lot around the hardware. Other than the display, Apple products are never about hardware. e.g. iPhone never has the best spec yet that is the choice of phone for many people. When I'm looking at an iMac, I'm looking at something that is reliable and last many more years than most PCs.

          I have been using computers since the mid 90s and have been using a computer daily ever since then.

          I have owned many PCs before, I have owned Dell laptops before, my work machine is a PC (and I work in the software industry). However, if anyone asks me what I would use for my personal computer, I would choose Mac. If I need something portable, I'll go for the MacBook, other than that I'll use an iMac.

          Currently I have a MacBook pro from 2015 and it is just as responsive as the first day I owned it. It still starts faster than any PCs I have used, and guess what, I'm always running the latest MacOS. Any laptops or PC that I have owned in the past, I always ended up needing to reinstall Window from scratch after 3-5 years before it just got so much slower and at my age, spending time "improving" the computer performance isn't where I want to spend my time after work. Like most people, I just need something that works and hassle free, even if that means I need to pay a premium for it.

          You can continue to love your PCs and I respect your opinion, but over my 30 years of computer experience (in which 20+ was using a PC), a Mac would be my first and only choice if I'm going to buy a computer.

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      herpadurkastan on 28/10/2020 - 18:36

      Actually I think the appeal is overall desktop tidiness given the peripherals are bluetooth, so quite literally you only have one power cable running to the unit. Not everyone likes the "I live with mum still" desktop gaming tower setup for the ExTrA PEWPEW OVAkL0k PoWr 2 DfEET no0bz.

      Irrespective I've seen very few 27 AIO's around this price point that weren't just i3's or pentium golds. Pretty decent buy for every-day household.

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        Gnostikos on 28/10/2020 - 18:51

        Actually I think the appeal is overall desktop tidiness given the peripherals are bluetooth, so quite literally you only have one power cable running to the unit. Not everyone likes the "I live with mum still" desktop gaming tower setup for the ExTrA PEWPEW OVAkL0k PoWr 2 DfEET no0bz.

        You know they make towers that look normal too, right? You can get SFF PCs with double the performance of this in a footprint that's even smaller.
        You can get Bluetooth peripherals for them too.

        It's not just a binary choice between sensible, clean design and garish, dudebro g4m3r-themed nonsense.

        Pretty decent buy for every-day household.

        Yeah sure, as long as that household that doesn't do anything other than browsing the web and opening Word documents.

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          herpadurkastan on 28/10/2020 - 19:01

          -1

          @Gnostikos: And what reasonable percentage of households actually need to do more than that?

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            Gnostikos on 28/10/2020 - 19:15

            @herpadurkastan: I don't know if you're aware but there's been an event of international significance that's forced a huge percentage of people to work from home and will likely ensure that practice remains commonplace well into the future.

            Households now, more than ever, are doing much, much more computationally-demanding work from home and this feebly-specced AIO isn't cut out to stream a 4K video without stuttering, let alone handle some real multi-tasking. It'll be well out-of-date in 2 years and in need of replacement as you can't really upgrade AIOs.

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              herpadurkastan on 28/10/2020 - 19:33

              +1

              @Gnostikos: Oh my goodness, really? Is it a pandemic of ill-informed grandiose spastics who have no idea of consumer and business requirements? And everyone is just suddenly just requiring UHD-capable workstations? For what? Super high-def zoom meetings? Weird how identically-specced HP spectre has been more than sufficient in doing some "real multi-tasking".

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                Gnostikos on 28/10/2020 - 20:01

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                @herpadurkastan: Mate, if your standard response to someone challenging your fragile, cocksure assumptions is to get incredibly petulant and defensive, throw an infantile tantrum and resort to name-calling; do yourself a favour and delete your recent OzBargain account now.

                The i5-10210U in this AIO is a low-power, mobile CPU; it's severely throttled and running at well below 4.2Ghz on the core 90% of the time. This is not remotely equivalent to a desktop with a run-of-the-mil quad-core in it, which you seem to be mistaking this for. Desktop quad-cores from 3 generations ago blow this thing out of the water.

                I support hundreds of clients as an MSP. Even those organisations where users are engaged in predominantly office productivity use cases like law firms, hospital administration, education and government have well and truly moved on from the stock standard Intel Quad-Core/8GB RAM/256GB SSD sh*tboxes like this. Most of my users would balk at being given a PC with these specs in 2020.

                Trying to open a several-hundred-sheet Excel workbook with dozens of macros and formulas on something like this and it'd take you upwards of a couple of minutes to open, save and close it. Same goes for large-format PDFs in A3/A2/A1 with lots of layers, scrolling through them would be time-consuming enough. Photoshop, InDesign, Premiere Pro would run as slow as molasses on this. Accounting and payroll software would be struggling, never mind CAD, MATLAB and 3D Visualisation/Rendering.

                High school kids are doing graphics design and programming classes now that require firmly mid-range hardware to run on comfortably.
                Plenty of people besides IT workers and gamers are using their PCs for so much more than just streaming videos and browsing the web these days; PLEX/home media servers, home automation, remote working, remote learning, teleconferencing, personal cloud, CCTV, etc.

                Buying effectively an entry-level laptop for $1,119 dollars just for the dubious benefit of a "cleaner look" is not a value proposition nor one borne of much common sense.

                You just have no idea what you're talking about and fail to see beyond your narrow-minded bubble.

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                  dclee12 on 28/10/2020 - 20:54

                  +3

                  @Gnostikos: You sound like you’d be fun at parties, good for you. 👍

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                  muddrex on 28/10/2020 - 22:00

                  +2

                  @Gnostikos: "Trying to open a several-hundred-sheet Excel workbook with dozens of macros and formulas on something like this and it'd take you upwards of a couple of minutes to open, save and close it. Same goes for large-format PDFs in A3/A2/A1 with lots of layers, scrolling through them would be time-consuming enough. Photoshop, InDesign, Premiere Pro would run as slow as molasses on this. Accounting and payroll software would be struggling, never mind CAD, MATLAB and 3D Visualisation/Rendering."

                  I don't think anyone looking at this AIO is expecting to do any of the above…

                  As a home PC doing typical web browsing, video conference/call, email, word processing, stream movies etc, this is definitely sufficient and is definitely cosmetically better than having a mini tower and extra cables. No one is saying that you can't get better hardware with a typical PC at a lower cost, but not everyone wants that extra power.

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      magic8ballgag on 29/10/2020 - 10:26

      You're coming off a bit strong mate, perhaps you should go for a walk and enjoy some sunshine?

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    magic8ballgag on 28/10/2020 - 17:29

    What makes it big? It's significantly smaller than a traditional desktop computer.

    Also, the specified components says that it's speed would be decent, so not sure what you're on about.

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      Gorian4 on 29/10/2020 - 03:49

      It's performance would make alot of laptops laugh, there have been heaps of laptop deals that were cheaper and came with better performing CPU's

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        magic8ballgag on 29/10/2020 - 09:32

        Right, but you're comparing apples with oranges, as laptops aren't available with 27" touch-screens.

        It's not all about compute power, and this setup isn't 'slow' just because it's outranked by other machines.