Daughter Doesn't Want to Return Her Mum`s Life Saving

Hello Guys

Thank you for your time
We wanted to get your thoughts and any guidance you guys can offer about a messy situation that my Best friend mother is in.
My Friends mother gave her 2nd daughter and her husband a substantial amount of money(150k) half her life saving for purchasing their first home last year for their deposit on the understanding that they will return the money back once they move into the new house, however after the settlement they completely stopped talking to the Mother , no communication and also does not allow her to see the grandkids :-(.
The 2 kids have grown up with their grandma by their side since birth and she has looked after then almost every day as the daughter would always say she is too tired to look after 2 kids (the daughter doesn’t work)

Since last year the mother has gone into severe depression as not being able to see the grand kids and being felt used and abused by her own daughter both emotionally and financially
Now 2 weeks ago my friend found out that the house that the 2nd daughter who purchased the house using her mother’s funds has the property for sale and which is currently under offer. When my friend told her mother about this, she then said she had given even more money to the second daughter and her husband prior to them purchasing the house for the husband to purchase a Food Truck (around 50k)
Her mother has been asking for them to return the money that she gave them since last year but they have blocked her # and do not even open the door when she goes to their house, once day she sat in her car in front of the house from 7 am to about 10 pm and both daughter and husband kept going in and out and ignored her calls to talk to them or let her see the grandkids

Now she wants her money back and doesn’t know what to do , they have seem a lawyer who has not been that great as when they spoke to him first he said he would send them a Letter of demand and give them 7 days to pay and if they don’t then put a caveat on the house and that he will get her money back but he also stopped responding to calls and did not do anything for the first 7 days and only after a week went my they were able to get in touch with another solicitor from the same firm who has just send out a Letter of demand 2 days ago giving them 7 days to pay but has said that she can’t put a caveat on the property as it’s not a caveatable interest which is not what the first lawyer from the same firm advised based on which she paid the lawyer fees.

We would appreciate if anyone could advice or help on what can my friends mother do to get her money back.

The daughter who took the money had also sent a handwritten card last year saying " Thanks mum for the money to purchase our house, we will return it once we move in "
The husband is a bad person, he first married to an Aussie to get a PR then divorced her and now this. When her mother asked him about his previous marriage he said in his religion he can marry 3-4 times its allowed

Please keep the comments clean as their family is going through a tough time.
Thank you all in advance

Edit 1 Since lot of people as asking

Examples of why Grandma believes the husband is not a nice person :

Being married before to get a PR and then divorced the girl once his PR was granted

Kept pressuring and pushing her daughter to come to grandma asking for money for the the food truck

Telling her daughter to strictly start following his religion if she wants to be with him

Forcing her to wear the traditional head attire in public , and the cruelest of all

Getting angry, abusive and blaming her daughter when they found out their second child is also a GIRL not a BOY. Left her pregnant daughter in the mall when she went and bought little baby girl clothes for child to come telling her that its her fault that she's giving birth to a girl not a boy .

The money for the house was given after the second child where the daughter would come to grandma and literally crying and begging for the money to help her family get a house of their own

Grandma was in touch with her daughter through all this via phone and catch ups without telling the husband. But after the settlement even this stopped and last phone call from her she said that She is changing her religion and Name doesn't want the grandma to have anything with her and she dare not let the kids go visit or see the grandma

Comments

      • +1

        Your screen name speaks volumes about you.

      • +2

        Can you show us where you said exactly that?

    • +2

      Grandma is saying that she believes that her husband is behindal, this and has brainwashed her daughter as her daughter after getting the house started wearing a hijab or that head scarf the girls wear and started going to mosque. Not against any religion just saying what grandma said to us.
      The daughter studied in a private catholic school and has never been like this

        • +19

          You can believe in your fairy tale without being triggered.

          (Also you didn't get squat from him/her. They are replying to someone else. Not sure which is sadder - that you have to steal credit or that you think there is credit to take.)

        • +31

          I feel like you know OP in real life. Are you the husband?

          • +13

            @TheBilly: Was going to say the same thing, this guy is too invested in this to get so angry over some random forum thread.

            • +3

              @onetwothreefour: i think the reason he got angry was because the OP was insinuating that the reason this all happened was because of the guys religion. Which is pretty ignorant on the OPs part.. which is enough to trigger an emotional response.

              • +2

                @striker5950: But if that guy was a decent human he should have been making efforts to return the money. But he is a corrupt person just like his defender "mrkorrupt".

                • @jfc50832: yes understood, but again this has nothing to do with his religion, this is his as a person

                  • -3

                    @striker5950: Why would you put in your two cents without knowing anything? Men from that religion are dominant. He had no issues in accepting the money and now he is stopping the grandma from seeing the grandkids.

                    • +3

                      @jfc50832: sounds like you are speaking for the husband as an official representative. why would i put in my two cents? lol you just did the same. I'm not putting in anything, I'm just working with what im given as far as info goes. and how the OP is pushing an agenda here

                      • -1

                        @striker5950: Yeah, you talk of the agenda of OP but conveniently ignore facts about the husband. So you are actually pushing your agenda. That guy is stopping his wife and kids from meeting their grandma but has no issues living on somebody else hard-earned money. And you pretend to be going with all info provided so far? Maybe you and MrKorrupt know each other

                        • +1

                          @jfc50832:

                          1. facts about the husband? what facts? the ones that OP shared? which are not many to begin with and any so called fact he shared is based on assumption to begin with..

                          2. you are basically taking nonsense as facts, which obviously serves your agenda which is bullshit, (the guy is stopping his wife and kids from meeting their grandma) how can he do that? if the girl loved and respected her mom, she would at least call her or answer her calls, this is Australia mate not some 3rd world country. if the girl was raised right she would know better. so yeh the only one pushing an agenda here is you. im just working with the info given so far but im sure there is more to the story.

                          3. who is mrkorrupt i missed that joke

                          • @striker5950: You are the one bull$hitting as you pretend to have limited info but still support a particular view. Culture and religion are given more importance to country norms do dont act all surprised. I am surprised that you even ask who MrKorrupt is. Didn't you see all his negative posts here?

              • @striker5950:

                i think the reason he got angry was because the OP was insinuating that the reason this all happened was because of the guys religion. Which is pretty ignorant on the OPs part.. which is enough to trigger an emotional response.

                No, when he first replied to OP OP had never mentioned what religion it was, only that religion was a factor. The only way he'd know what religion OP was talking about was if he's involved in the story, or if he made assumptions. I highly doubt he'd defend this religion if he didn't know which one it was.

                • @cheng2008: ok cheng you should be smarter than this going by the name here, the OP stated that she 'Started wearing hijab' now im no scientist. but i believe hijab is worn by Muslims? if i said damn that race that cannot drive and always gets into accidents, who am i taking about? (hint: you can be racist without saying the word asian)

                  • +1

                    @striker5950: That's the whole point, the OP did not make any mention of hijabs or anything that narrowed it down to one religion when mrkorrupt first started grilling him about religion and race. Hence the problems with making assumptions.

                    • @cheng2008: you clearly missed that part, go read again, he said quite "she started wearing hijab" in one of his replies lol

                      • @striker5950: I think we've found the issue, you weren't here when mrkorrupt first started grilling him about religion, way before anything about hijabs. It was deleted early on.

          • +5

            @TheBilly: mrkorrupt

            Location
            Bankstown, Sydney

            Checks out.

            Did something tick you off from the getgo because you knew/know now that it's may potentially have to do with religion? I'm pretty sure Grandma just wants her money back and see her grandkids, religion aside…

        • +6

          Now I'm really confused. How is not liking 'muzzies' racist?

          • @dmbminaret: Who else is staying sober to feed us slovenly white folks kebabs at 2am on a Sunday morning? Think people, think.

        • +9

          Even if you’re right and the grandmother doesn’t like the religion it doesn’t excuse not paying back the money. It also doesn’t excuse not communicating if/when the money will be returned. Particularly since the house is being sold, the daughter and son in law should have the means to repay the loan.

          This is elder abuse and family violence and unacceptable. I can’t think of any religion which would condone disrespecting elders and theft.

          If the daughter and son in law don’t want to continue the relationship the mother/grandmother due to conflict re the religion (or any other reason) they can return the money, or at very least communicate when they will. A disagreement over religion or lifestyle doesn’t justify not repaying the loan and not communicating re the loan. It also probably doesn’t justify cutting off the relationship with the grandchildren who will probably resent their parents into adulthood as a result.

          If you are the son in law (since you seem to be making terrible excuses for him), do the right thing and repay the money. If you can’t right away communicate as to when you will. Also consider putting your children’s mental wellbeing before your ego and let them see their grandmother. If ethical, compassionate behaviour isn’t a good enough reason for you, please consider the legal consequences to yourself and your wife including potential family violence, fraud or other charges.

          • +2

            @morse: I think the same as you. I wonder if we could approach it from FV and elder abuse point of view. If it is FV, then police and other agencies might be able to assist. Asking for loan and then refusing to return it is just another form of elder abuse. I also will not discount that the daughter might be a victim herself. Being under strong influence depriving contact with loved ones is one of the tell tale signs of FV.

            Regarding, not being able to prove the contract, I don't agree that nothing can be done. There is that Christmas card with a promise to return money, there would be flow of funds from the mother to the couple. If we first figure out if it is a DV situation and try and get the family some help, then the daughter might come up with the facts. Although, by that time it could be too late as the house might be sold, and there wouldn't be any monies left to be reclaimed.

            I also wonder depriving grand kids to meet their grandma, kids might need some help there too.

            Also, what happens to the family when the house is sold and there is no further monies left. Probably best to see the signs now and address the root cause, save the family. The man may not necessarily be a bad man or not, but needs to be investigated further. Like someone said, if there is gambling or some similar underlying reasons for his to loose money.

        • +2

          You sound like a butt hurt religious zealot looking at all your comments.

          Answer me this one thing - are you a devout religious person who gets offended over a change in the wind direction? It certainly sounds like it.

      • -1

        Look it might be hard for the grandmother to accept but they are all responsible in there own little way… The husband may be doing all this stuff… The daughter is letting all this stuff happen as well … The grandma was happy to splash 200k and everything was sweet, until she felt like she was being wronged and now the world is about to end and you are posting on OZ bargain… Its a big mess and there is nothing you can do about it unfortunately, because everyone involved has a little dirt on their hands and is responsible in their own little way.

      • +4

        mate people get scammed all the time, by people of all races, colours, religions, its easy to blame the guy and you are trying to relate his religion to the reason why this happened lol its kinda funny. you didn't say it but you kinda are saying at indirectly. blaming his religion is so small minded i cant even begin to talk about your train of thought, im not defending the guy as i don't know any of them and just a 3rd person looking at the story and trying to put it together. but the daughter is to blame for abandoning her mom, period, there is no brain washing here from what i read.. although it fits the plot and its the easy way out. fact is this happens to many people daily, borrowing money from family members and than not paying it back and ghosting them. it happened to a friend of mine with his childhood friend, he knew the guy for 15 year, took 20k from him as a loan than disappeared and stop answering calls. moral of the story, dont fookin lend money without a contract.

      • +5

        The daughter is an adult free to make her own choices. She made a conscious decision to marry the guy or follow his religion. To say she has been brainwashed just because she did something unexpected is unjustified. To lay the blame on the guy she is married to is unjustified. To say he is a bad man because he was married before and has a different religion is unjustified.
        If the daughter cared about her mother she wouldn't have let anyone influence her. Please don't try to find a scapegoat, the only one who is in the wrong is herself and anyone else is irrelevant. Please don't give this a racial twist because that only reflects badly on you. Get proper advice from a lawyer and persue this legally.

        • exactly!

        • Really there's 3 scenarios, daughter won't pay and husband won't pay is the only one that has this outcome. If either of them had a heart they'd have told the other one they need to pay it back, or plead poor and not barred the grandma from seeing them.

          Just as easily if the borrowers didn't want the baggage they shouldn't have borrowed in the first place

          • +2

            @Jackson: as a final thought I think they are both in agreement to avoid payment, all this other bullshit about the husband "brainwashing" this 'poor innocent girl' is fluff perpetrated by the OP by hinting at the guys religion to be the cause of the problem as a scapegoat, and some ozbargainers are taking the bait on both sides. his reasoning for the girl not initiating contact to her mother is that she was undoubtedly "brainwashed" by the husband who is a member of that religion that shall not be named cough cough. which sounds like a bunch of bullshit to me, im sure that girl has a brain and she can use that brain to:

            1. get out of the relationship if she was unhappy.
            2. initiate contact with mother to tell her she is being kept against her will.
            3. tell her mother that we are not paying you back and its awkward to keep in touch once we admit that we stole your money so no more contact with the kids. (or just use the excuse 'my husband forbids it')

            if story is as its been outlined here and no important info has been left out (by the grandma and the OP) its safe to say that the husband and the wife's hand are in the same pot and everything else is extra noise and people guessing and wondering, moral of the story, don't lend money that you are not willing to loose.

        • +2

          If the daughter cared about her mother she wouldn't have let anyone influence her

          This is like saying " If women didn't want to suffer domestic violence, they would just stand up for themselves".

          I think OP is trying to say that the husband is abusive and controlling, with one of the first things all abusers do is try to separate the victim from their family.

          I mean, we have no evidence of this, but it's also not an unreasonable assumption given the details we have.

          • @Charmoffensive: He is a user, used the first girl to get PR and used this girl and her family to get money.

        • While I agree that the general blame should be on the daughter because she is also making these decisions, he absolutely is a bad dude for getting married for a PR and then getting divorced. Even if it's just incidental timing of a marriage breakdown, that's still enough to be on a shitlist

  • Scratch my head !!!!!!!!!!

  • +3

    his religion he can marry 3-4 times it's allowed.!!!! Big LIAR.

    • +1

      So daughter is marriage number 2? He has 2 left haha

    • +9

      nearly Any religion allows multiple marriages. But Islam and maybe others allow a man to marry four women at the same time.

      mrkorrupt can tell more about the finer points of this/his religion.

      • One wife is already a hassle, how would 3 or 4 be a finer point? Sounds bloody horrible. Actually, maybe they could tell each other about their days and the crazy B at work, and give blokes their peace and quiet back.

        • +1

          thats why you should do what the italians do, get a wife and get a mistress, and a gf and ur set (if you can manage)

        • +2

          you're supposed to be able to support each wife though not the other way around, in some ways it can be a form of charity (widows ect)

  • +9

    Sounds like your friend is pretty much screwed, she has no recourse at all.

    Even the letter is useless, the daughter can just claim the money was a gift. There is no proof to the contrary.

    btw, as far as marriage and divorce goes, religion has nothing to do with it, its a contract that is recognised by the government.
    You can divorce and remarry as many times as you want.
    Unless you mean marry 3-4 people at the same time, which of course is polygamy and illegal here.

    I dont see how divorcing someone and remarrying someone else makes you a bad person, people do it all the time.

    • +4

      he married the girl for the PR, and divorced her once he got the PR.
      My friend was in the same uni

      • -7

        How do you know this?
        In Australia, about 50% of marriages end up in divorce.

        • +6

          Cause my friend was in the same uni as the other girl, they knew each other will and the husband was on student visa trying to stay here. Then one day we hear they got married and after sometime we hear that they got divorced and we didnt hear from the girl after that, she like disappeared. Then few years back my friend met her sister who told her this that the husband was abusing her and didnt want anything to do with her after getting the pr

          • +3

            @Jam92: Yet your friend let her own sister marry this POS….

            • @websterp: She tried her best to warn her again and again , but her sister was blind in love and wouldn't listen to her

              • +1

                @Jam92: i think if you are dumb enough to be tricked to marry someone so they can get PR (that easily) than you deserved being used, for the snowflakes yeh this sounds harsh but its the truth. has no one watched 90 days fiance here?

          • +2

            @Jam92: Jam92, tell us which country this husband is from, it's not easy to generalise a person from a 1.2b religion (however people think they can make them into one group which look & act the same).

            Sadly the husband seems to be the focus due to your comment about him being the bad man and his comment about marrying four women. In saying that, both the daughter and the husband seem to be bad people…. birds of a feather.They should both be blamed for their actions - the daughter especially as she should maintain contact with her mother. (How many son-in-laws really care about their mother-in-law in a broken relationship - regardless of religion).

            I wish the mother well but seems like the relationship is broken and unlikely to be fixed.

            It's a sad situation for both, but perhaps have the mother talk with the son-in-laws family to see if they can work through it together as a family. I really doubt that the family of the son-in-law even knows whats occurred. (Mind I can understand that his family is oversea's so will be doubly hard).

  • +4

    Wow the comments here - gets popcorn.

  • +9

    If the son in law really is a piece of shit, he will have complete control over his wife like an abuser.
    Best case scenario is once the house is sold he does a runner with all the cash.
    Otherwise the only way to fix it is to find a way for someone else to save the woman and let her see she’s being manipulated, isolated from her family and exploited by an abuser.
    This situation is not unique, guys who do stuff like this are highly functioning psychopaths, they pick their targets.

    • +3

      It takes two to tango the daughter is just as if not more so a piece of shit then the son in law

      • +4

        Apparently women can't do crappy things unless men make them. Who knew? Have an updoot.

        • +1

          Ozb is full of socialist idiots you get used to some of morons in this country over time

    • +5

      This comment is very underrated, abusers are able to coerce there victims very effectively. Daughter sounds like she’s in her own hell.

      • You marry and idiot so you ruin ur parents financial welbeing after all they tried to do what help you?

        we live in a nation full of idiots who have too much sympathy of shit people and not enough for the victims

    • +1

      Grandma just told us now, that one day she called her daughter after the house settled and her daughter said to her " I dont want you to come to my house , neither I want you to see the grandkids as my HUSBAND doesnt want you to, I`m now converting to a different religion and will have to do what my husband says" and hung up leaving grandma crying

      • +4

        I feel sorry for the grandmother.

        As a religious Muslim myself I can tell you that parents of your partner shouldn't be excluded or banned from being seen. I'm talking religiously… It's actually very much frowned on, even for those from another faith. We are meant to keep good relations with our families, even those out of the fold of Islam.

        Either the guy is unaware of his faith (likely) or using ignorance to mask his true intentions. Or it's likely the girl is also doing the same.

        Regardless, its a shame as this seems to be the excuse or assumption from either party.

        • As a religious Muslim can you weigh in on the teaching that roughly translates to "who is with us is with us, let who is with them be with them"? I've had a few chats with dudes doing Dawa and I still feel it's open to wildly differing interpretations.

          • +3

            @ozbjunkie: Unfortunately most things are very open to interpretation in most religions, mine not excepted. You've probably found that out already with the dawah groups. (But keep in mind Muslims are not one analogous group which all act and believe similarly.There's huge difference between them based on culture and country…. Think of it like asking a Kenyan Christian what should happen to gays and a kiwi Christian… I'm sure a very different answer).

            IE. What I believe and do, others would not agree with… Personally, I have Muslim and non Muslim family and friends and treat them the same and associate with them all (actually exclusively only have non Muslim friends).

            That quote your referring to I'm not familiar with but there are similarities with hadith where pretty much says you should stick with your own.

            There is no difference from Jewish scripture, in fact Jewish scripture is much harsher based on this requirement. But in regards to my religion, historical reasons being that early Muslims, like early Christians, were persecuted and excluded by the mainstream, and when with the other group made to either renounce their new religion or adapt/change it to fit in. Hence, stick together and form a common bond without being made to change yourself.

            My opinion only and hope that helps. :)

            • +1

              @khomeini: Very informative reply. Thanks for all that. It's a difficult thing when people try to understand each other through group affiliation and forget to consider the many ways that groups and individuals are different. Hopefully we can all navigate that challenge cooperatively.

  • +9

    The best evidence is maybe the card saying "thanks and we'll pay it back", but both sides will be dropping five figures in legal fees to get a ruling on that.

    The ungrateful daughter is (apparently) not an only child. The best course of action would be incur a legal fee to get a new will redrafted that excludes her to at least that extent of the money, if not everything ["In light of the loan that I provided you and your husband for a property and a new business venture.."], and get some decent non-Internet-forum wording on that that makes it basically unchallengeable. Nothing's unchallengeable, I know, but you should be able to get some ink on paper that clearly states she ain't getting [that amount]/anything, depending on how strongly you feel at the time.

    Then don't tell anyone about it. Don't use it as a cudgel to try to get her to pay back, don't use it as leverage, don't gloat. This isn't a soap opera. If you're mentally satisfied that the above is a restitution, tell her you'll never mention the amount again and just want to continue to form a life bond with her/your grand kids. If she's not open to that, then you know you've done all you can and there's nothing more.

    Oh, and don't loan her money again - even if it's via an actual loan agreement - manipulative Mom has Grandma's number now [Oh look kids, there's Grandma who wants to sue mom and take your spongebob snacks away].

    Also, unless you're actually suggesting the husband is an actual vampire who has his wife in his thrall to do his bidding, I don't fully follow why the husband being a divorcee and the rest has a lot to do with this. If there's some angle about him not being the biological father and/or having some additional moral stake on the whole atmosphere, either spell that stuff out early or leave your prejudices at the door?

    • -8

      thank you, another person who sees it for what it is

      • +12

        "thank you,"

        I'm pretty sure you took sunrise this morning as a personal validation. I hope your life improves soon.

    • +3

      I don't fully follow why the husband being a divorcee and the rest has a lot to do with this.

      I think it was very clearly explained.

      The "divorcee" part is incidental. You seem to have overlooked the "marriage of convenience" and similarly the divorce after the marriage has outlive its utility.

      • +1

        "And then he held up his Divorce Club loyalty card, which clearly showed he had at least two more un-punched squares in it, meaning he was well on his way to three times half another woman's stuff, and then finally a free subway club"

        If the husband really is the villain of the piece, he needs to come in early to have an impact. What we have here is "daffy grandma promises money to her kid, doesn't get it back, now we need adults to fix this, and and the husband might have been a thing, maybe"

        • +1

          So your assertion is based solely on where the character is mentioned within the post?

          Okay…

          • +2

            @[Deactivated]: OP chose the order the elements landed in the storytelling of this process, perhaps based on how it was relayed to him? We're dealing with third hand knowledge here.

            If the manipulative husband was such a big part of the problem, why does it get less than 10% of the coverage, and right at the end?

    • +1

      Thanks for your advice.
      I'm not saying anything about her husband, the grandma is just saying that he married a girl got his residency through that then divorced her. Then now married her daughter and manipulated her to get the money from her family ie grandma. She thinks that he has manipulated her daughter and made her a different person . Im just saying what the grandma says.

      • Grandma needs to write down on a piece of paper what she thinks is actually happening.

        Is her daughter a free agent or in the thrall of her husband?
        Does she want her daughter to leave her husband?
        What about the kids, who gets control of the kids if that happens?
        Who will be paying for all of the legal work above?

        Those will have answers before she gets $0.01 of the house proceeds.

  • +6

    Why are they borrowing 150k with the intention of giving it back on settlement
    They either have it or not, otherwise its a loan.

    • +1

      Potentially poorly worded. Could have been "start repayments after settlement".

    • grandma says, they said to her that the husband got money stuck overseas in property and will take time to be transferred here and the banks want to see the funds in their bank account, and once they move in he will get the money from overseas and pay it all

        • +21

          Good guess or are you the husband?

          • @onetwothreefour: Or the BFF

          • -1

            @onetwothreefour: I've seen this stuff happen with reverts, they put on the hijab and they get disowned, and parents then change circumstances to their daughter.

            • @mrkorrupt:

              reverts

              😂😂😂

              • @brendanm: Better than conned-verts.

            • +6

              @mrkorrupt: " they get disowned,"

              Perhaps when you "saw" it, you were witnessing a reaction to their daughter wishing to bring into their home an egotistical mysoginistic tosser claiming the right to enforce neolithic nomadic social norms on others on the basis that an invisible magic sky-pixie gave them the right to destroy all those who don't feel the "love", and won't shut up about it.

              Still, if we've got numerologists running the treasury, the cub scouts designing a broadband network and astrologers making the budget forecasts like the last six years I guess you'll they'll fit right in…

            • -1

              @mrkorrupt: Hopefully you realise casually dropping ISIS-tier phrases like “reverts” is why Islam has a serious problem with extremism in 2020.

      • +2

        This sounds like all those Nigerian scams.

        It might be worth her, at least, contacting these people. They might be able to indicate if she has any recourse.

        http://www.wlsa.org.au/

        • Thanks for your reply. Will look into this. We will be contacting the elder abuse line tomorrow

  • +5

    Depending upon which state in which this has occurred, there may be legislation relating to financial abuse of the elderly. I'd suggest seeking advice regarding this approach, given the acknowledgement of the loan, in the card, and the refusal to return the funds now.

    • thanks for your response. Yes we have got the elder abuse information which my friend will be ringing on monday

  • How was the money transferred?
    Cash from grandma's stash under the mattress or something with a paper trail?

    • +1

      bank transfers from grandma bank account

  • +1

    my Best friend mother

    OP, as your are the “best friend” to a offspring of the mother. You seem to know a lot of insider details 🤔

    • Been best friends since forever.. both our families see us like sisters

      • Why didn't you voice concerns on the daughter marrying this dodgy bloke? That is the root of this problem.

        • Doesn't seem fair to put the blame on OP. She's a friend of the sister, not of the problem daughter.

    • Not sure how you found that to be the most surprising part of the story. My BFF and I confide in eachother on all things - especially something as big as this.

  • +1

    I know it's not relevant at all but I have a burning desire to know…

    Which suburb did this 2nd daughter buy / sell the house?

    • +20

      Probably Bankstown, Sydney, same place where mrkorrupt lives😄

      • +5

        Can't be bankstown
        Would have been an AMG C63 not a food truck

        Wonder if it's a kebab truck though…

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