This is a good buy as chemist warehouse are $24.99 for 300 count.
Thanks Op. the one chemist warehouse is 600mg and this one is 500mg, I think.
Nah same one.
Nature's Way High Strength Magnesium 600mg combines magnesium with two co-factors vitamin B6 and D3 to help relieve muscle cramps and spasms. It provides 321.65mg elemental magnesium per tablet. Prolonged stress, insufficient dietary intake and the use of some medicines can contribute to magnesium deficiency. Low levels can cause muscle stiffness, twitching and cramps. Nature's Way High Strength Magnesium 600mg combines four different forms of magnesium and two co-factors: vitamin B6 and vitamin D3, for better absorption and to help maintain optimum magnesium levels in the body. Each tablet provides 321.65mg actual magnesium.
Chemist warehouse have exclusive on 300 count I think.
Magnesium Oxide - Heavy500mg Magnesium Phosphate 80mg Magnesium Amino Acid Chelate 10mg Magnesium Citrate 10mg (total equiv. elemental magnesium 321.65mg) Pyridoxine Hydrochloride (Vit B6) 50mg Cholecalciferol (Vitamin D3 100IU) 2.5mcg Manganese Amino Acid Chelate) 40mg (Equiv. to Manganese 4mg)
Magnesium (as Heavy Magnesium Oxide 500mg) 301.6mg
Magnesium (as Phosphate Pentahydrate 80mg) 16.5mg
Magnesium (as Amino Acid Chelate 10mg) 2mg
Magnesium (as Magnesium Citrate 10mg) 1.55mg
(total equiv. elemental magnesium 321.65mg)
Pyridoxine Hydrochloride (Vitamin B6) 50mg
(Equiv. to Pyridoxine 41.1 mg)
Colecalciferol (Vitamin D3 100IU) 2.5micrograms
Manganese Amino Acid Chelate 40mg
(Equiv. to Manganese 4mg)
Looked OK but then I saw that it was mainly magnesium Oxide.
Magnesium oxide is a salt that combines magnesium and oxygen.
It naturally forms a white, powdery substance and may be sold in powder or capsule form. It’s also the main active ingredient in milk of magnesia, a popular over-the-counter medication for constipation relief (6).
This type isn’t typically used to prevent or treat magnesium deficiencies, as some studies report that it’s poorly absorbed by your digestive tract (7).
Instead, it’s more frequently used for short-term relief of uncomfortable digestive symptoms, such as heartburn, indigestion, and constipation. It may also be used to treat and prevent migraines (6, 8).
Magnesium oxide is often used to relieve digestive complaints like heartburn and constipation. Given that the body doesn’t absorb it well, it isn’t a good choice for those who need to raise their magnesium levels.
It works for me. If I don't take a tablet, I know about it in the night with a cramp.
Excellent product,often on special at this price from Woolies.
Fibromyalgia/Chronic Fatigue Syndrome sufferers will find these most helpful.
Also try fish oil tablets (high dose). That and magnesium = alleviate symptoms.
Be very cautious / don't take advice on medical matters here. While some may find certain supplements helpful, it may not help you.
CFS is not like a usual medical diagnosis. It is a process of excluding other causes of symptoms. As such, CFS does not have a single cause or treatment.
I've seen well meaning members of a CFS support group giving advice that was unsound. Many found help from an expensive GP who was later struck off for very unsound & unsafe practices!
Now to take my Mg.
90% of CFS is caused by streptococcus which takes over a significant portion of the digestive tract.
The Collaborative Pain Research Unit at Newcastle University,NSW have known that for 26 years and 3 months.
Four of their researchers/professors started Bioscreen,if anyone wishes to spend several hundred dollars for testing.
28.6% in my case.
I take Blackmore's Digestive Aid with/just before meals to get the best out of my food intake.
That usually takes care of my Myofascial pain.
High potency B12. Bye,bye depression :)
Which CFS support group?
Have known about Newcastle Uni Unit before the Drs started their testing.
Thanks. Will look into it again.
Was being treated & trained long ago by a Brisbane sports medicine & nutrition Dr. I had severe Gastro Intestinal tract issues. Nutritional supplements including Mg were the first step.
Had contact with the CFS support group there, & was disturbed by unsound advice being accepted by people because they were understandably desperate for help.
Testing cost is likely worthwhile, considering the cost of supplements & other treatments that may only have a placebo effect for some.
@the INFIDEL: Give Blackmores Digestive Aid a go.
Price varies,currently $20.95 for 60 caps on Amazon.Order two for free delivery.
I spoke to CPRU shortly after their "Sixty Minutes" appearance in September 1994.
They were actually hiding their R&D at that time.
@Dave Id: Have you got a link for the claim that 90% of CFS is CAUSED by streptococcus?
Having designed research & research proposals plus lecturing in academic writing, I would like to have a read.
While it wouldn't surprise me that 90% of CFS patients had an overgrowth of streptococcus affecting their GI tract, that a causal link has been established to CFS through research is harder to imagine. Such research would be difficult due to ethical restraints.
@the INFIDEL: Somewhere on a long lost HDD,if that counts :(
Some mycoplasma may also cause CFS.
I picked up the disease between November 1982 and June 1983.Still have my FOI documents.Was working for the Grubberment :(
There are a dozen or so diseases with very similar cause.
Give the Blackmores Digestive Aid a go.That will give you some very quick answers.
@Dave Id: For example, Britain's NHS states
It's not known what causes CFS/ME, but there are a number of theories
Similar with other reputable health authorities.
While a correlation could be shown in research, causation would be very hard to prove.
People often don't see a difference between the words, but it is a huge difference when basing any treatment on it.
That's why I would want to see the research that supports that claim.
Will contact Bioscreen.
@the INFIDEL: If you reckon NHS is reputable,especially concerning CFS …….
I'm out of here.
@Dave Id: Reputable sites base their advice on peer reviewed research. It's not based on what people advise in posts or support groups.
So far, I can't find any support for your causal claim. And you won't provide any support above that's what you remember on a long lost HDD…
Reading Bioscreen site, they don't make that claim, just if you are diagnosed with CFS - contact us for a GI test.
That would make sense if many CFS patients ALSO have an overgrowth of streptococcus. That would require treatment which would likely benefit the patient.
Bioscreen have a vested interest since they make money from tests.
So if the research supported that causal claim - they would proudly make it. But they also know they can't make unfounded claims.
Given no support for your claim, it's as good as the other anecdotal advice here.
But the Bioscreen test may be of help with Gastro Intestinal tract infections.
My Dr warned against the usefulness of the test in my case.
@the INFIDEL: Bioscreen is a pathology business.
The overgrowth of a pathological bacteria,along with the complete absence of some good gut flora,is good enough for me.
Top Belgian research team is in agreeance.
I would steer well clear of your doctor,in my case.Seems to have no pertinent knowledge.
Not looking for an argument and am completely out of here now.
@Dave Id: No argument. Those with CFS would want to find proof of the cause of CFS that you claim. It is the break through they are looking for!
Millions would be so happy if the research proves that. Hence why I am asking & searching.
But I can't see where Bioscreen makes that claim. If proven that's the first place that would promote it! It would make them money & their reputation.
A claim that 90% of CFS patients tested had an overgrowth of streptococcus is very different to a claim than 90% of CFS is CAUSED by streptococcus.
They seem similar but are very different! One is a simple observation of test results of samples submitted by people claiming to have CFS, the other a peer reviewed paper of properly designed & approved research, conducted so the result is verifiable & repeatable!
Proving causation is very difficult in research! And diagnosis of CFS is mainly by self report & absence of any other causes - that is very subjective.
Same as the theory that post- vial infection causes CFS. Many have trouble recovering after a severe virus. Some of those go on to have CFS symptoms. But it's not a proven cause of CFS.
Even elite sports people have had CFS.
There are many precursors to CFS, but no proven cause.
And unfortunately no proven treatment, although graded exercise & CBT have been shown in research to improve outcomes for those with CFS.
Sadly, evidence for your claim just isn't available. Would be happy if it was.
Experience in designing research tends to make me doubtful a causal relationship can be easily found.
That's why the claim is labelled a "theory" by reputable health sites. Anecdotally it may work for some with CFS.
The Bioscreen test helped in your treatment for Myofascial pain. That's great.
But every one has different symptoms lumped under the catch all non-diagnosis of "CFS" - which may not be helped by this test. Hence my Dr's advice, given I already support my GI.
Support for your gut would be the first step a Dr should have taken anyway.
Even asking at a chemist or health food shop would have probably directed you to the same or similar product - without testing.
@Dave Id: Ah Drs!
Long ago, I was told by my GP I had CFS, so wanted another opinion.
But the Specialist Physician was trying his hardest to disprove my symptoms fitted the pattern for CFS.
Then I realised he had the same family name as a specialist seen by patients with CFS.
So I mentioned his brother - he exploded with rage. He hated his brother & didn't believe in CFS.
Luckily I had predicted his bias & almost laughed.
Now that's not very professional. I submitted a complaint. I set out how he was refusing to observe the symptoms & was blinded by his emotions. That went against my training in scientific research.
My complaint was accepted - he was not to accept CFS patients.
But in his report - CFS was the stated illness. Maybe I had converted him.
I would recommend ketosis.
Thank you for the negative votes. Have you actually tried it? Science is behind it. Metabolic changes pre full-blown diabetes are now known to be very common; there is relative lack of awareness of this amongst general population (until it is too late); and these changes cause many systemic issues early on that we were not previously aware of, including issues with body's energy systems i.e. disruption in performance of mitochondria. While causes of myalgic encephalomyelitis (i.e. chronic fatigue syndrome in lay terms ) are not yet known and are thought to have some viral illness origins, metabolic disease pathway should not be ignored. If nothing works, giving fasting and ketosis a more serious go, over at least 2 - 3 months, will not cause harm. On the contrary, there is enough scientific evidence of benefits. But hey, there is always the food pyramid - that has worked so well for the Western societies over the last 40 odd years, right?
It’s the only thing that has come close to working for me, I can still only work part time but I am far better than I previously was. Although I’m closer to carnivore than a “keto diet”. I wish I could eat more veg though, I miss eating salads.
Keep staying healthy!
Ozbargain used to recommend not posting nor take health advice on Ozbargain!
It's just opinion & may not relate to the next person.
Different approaches will help ease symptoms differently in those with CFS.
Fine to say what works in your case.
But going beyond your own experience - recommending it may work for unknown others is offering advice best not to give.
You're going beyond the (unreliable, unverified, with sample size of 1) data!
If people radically change their diet, that may have unforeseen consequences!
Advocating your own preferred approach based on research findings in very different health areas is very unwise.
As has been found, research that proves an approach good in 1 health area sometimes causes big problems in other areas like increased risk of cancer. (Smoking used to be recommended by Doctors to ease anxiety!) Research can take a very long time to prove adverse effects.
Humans are complex, we don't just change 1 thing in our lives. And each of us is culturally & genetically different, living different lives, with different illnesses. So the association between the change & effect is almost impossible to tell. But we love to see associations that may not exist!
CFS is a non-diagnosis of last resort - when no other causes can be found.
Hence it's a Syndrome (symptoms found to coexist, with no known cause), rather than disease (with specific cause & symptoms).
People with varying symptoms lumped together under the same CFS term.
It's not surprising some see different & definite solutions. We're all different with differing symptoms, which will react differently to those approaches!
Shows as $11?
Amazon is out of stock most likely, other sellers offer $11+
Coles half price special @$8!
Once again Amazon are just price matching with little stock.
so true, supporting Coles this time
I wonder how does this compare to Blackmores Bio Magnesium.
This is inexpensive and works well.