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½ Price TRÅDFRI Zigbee Smart Bulb E27 1000 Lumen, Warm White - $7.49 @ IKEA

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½ Price TRÅDFRI Zigbee Smart Bulb E27 1000 Lumen, Warm White - $7.49 @ IKEA
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bargaino on 16/12/2020 - 12:34 ikea.com (2272 clicks)
Last edited 19/12/2020 - 14:24 by 1 other user

TRÅDFRI
LED bulb E27 1000 lumen, wireless dimmable warm white/globe opal white
Price valid 16 Dec. 2020 - 1 Feb. 2021 or while stock lasts

Was cheap at $15, now half price. Compatible with Hue, SmartThings, HomeAssistant, Homekit via HomeBridge, etc.
Good value if you want the brighter bulb, and no switches.

Ikea has dimmer switches for $10: https://www.ikea.com/au/en/p/tradfri-wireless-dimmer-white-5…
or bundled with a slightly smaller 806 lumen bulb for $15

Out of Stock: Perth (expected back 11-18/1) ;

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  • overule on 16/12/2020 - 12:37
    +3

    This is slightly yellowish in colour for those who are not aware.

    • bargaino on 16/12/2020 - 12:40
      +9

      Yes, I put "warm white" in the title.
      This is the standard 2700K colour that most people seem to prefer for home lighting.
      It only looks "yellow" if there is cooler light to compare - such as daylight coming in the window. At night it feels normal, same as traditional light bulbs.

      Daylight colour is more suited to offices, and daytime task lighting such as kitchen work-benches.

      • Jake Pebbles on 16/12/2020 - 12:46
        +1

        it says compatible with hue. It looks reasonable price. Does all the product work with hue lighting?. Like sensor, dim switch etc.

        • bargaino on 16/12/2020 - 12:54
          +2

          Compatible, but not supported by Philips.
          Hue hub works well with Ikea bulbs, but the rest is complicated.

          You can have lights controlled independently by both the Hue hub, and Ikea sensors/switches, but the hub does not see the switch.

        • impoze on 16/12/2020 - 12:57

          Yes, I use a mixture of ikea lights with my hue hub

          The switches are paired differently though

        • endlesstrail on 16/12/2020 - 13:37

          Also note that the Tradfri bulbs will not be update-able by the Hue Hub.

        • fuzor on 16/12/2020 - 14:34

          Hue's good with everything lights. Sensors and such you're better off with a Samsung Smartthings hub and then connect different brands of items to it.

        • Thy-San on 16/12/2020 - 15:33
          +1

          They won’t present to HomeKit via Hue btw.
          Otherwise anything through hue’s own app works fine.

      • overule on 16/12/2020 - 13:23

        Just pointing out the fact it is slightly yellow. Some people has no clue what warm white means

      • CocaKoala on 16/12/2020 - 15:06
        +2

        This is the standard 2700K colour that most people seem to prefer for home lighting.

        I'm probably not in the "most people" group, but I certainly find 2700K ought to be way too unpleasant. It needs to be higher on the scale for it to be easy on the eyes, but too high (>4500K), and it's going to to look like a factory shed of course. But I know people who prefer the daylight (>6000K) - aka the "white" coloured light (think cold CFL).

        At the end of the day it's a personal preference, it's a fair warning that 2700K would look "too yellow".

      • lgacb08 on 16/12/2020 - 16:27
        -4

        No way 2700k "only looks yellow if there is cooler light to compare", it is definitely yellow unless you have vision issue or some sort of colour blind anomaly.

        • bargaino on 16/12/2020 - 16:32
          +6

          The human eye is unable to discern colour temperature without a reference.
          If you are in a closed room with only one light bulb, it is not possible to know the colour (within normal range).

          ( I was a bit of a photography nerd, back in the day when you used different film for day or night.)

        • this is us on 16/12/2020 - 17:12

          I agree… 3000k is the "warm white/yellow" that i like, not 2700k, although these references are not always accurate.

          Still a good deal for those who like yellow lights…

          https://www.waveformlighting.com/home-residential/choosing-b…

      • Franc-T on 16/12/2020 - 21:43
        +1

        Nah, some people (myself) hate warm white. But this is an exceptional price

  • gjk on 16/12/2020 - 12:42

    Do you have to have a gateway for these? Cheapest option?

    • NinjaChicken on 16/12/2020 - 12:45
      +1

      Yes, you need a gateway. The cheapest option is probable the Tradfri gateway at $39:

      https://www.ikea.com/au/en/p/tradfri-gateway-white-40337811/

      Occasionally you can pick up the Hue gateway for a similar price..

    • bargaino on 16/12/2020 - 12:46
      +5

      No. You can use the Ikea switches linked above, without a hub. Cheapest option is $15 for one bulb plus switch. A switch can be paired to multiple bulbs, of course.

      The Ikea hub adds Google/Alexa support and scheduling. But I'd recommend something smarter like the Hue hub if you go that direction.

  • kbo5000 on 16/12/2020 - 12:48
    +1

    It appears the Trådfri range do not include B22. Does anybody know for sure?

    • bargaino on 16/12/2020 - 12:50

      Correct. If there is space in your light fitting, you can use an adaptor:

      https://www.amazon.com.au/Adapters-Converter-Adapter-Holders…

      • mellow on 16/12/2020 - 14:55

        Apologies for the FUD but AFAIK you cannot legally use those adaptors as they are not certified for the Australian market (no Aus standards certification).
        IKEA previously sold similar adapters directly circa 2016, but pulled them off the shelves a few months later when certification issues arose.
        To my understanding there are NO light-bulb adapters that are legal to use in the Aus market, as none have been certified to comply with our standards.

        'Big whoop' I hear people saying, well as an example.. my understanding is that if one of your bulbs burn out and causes a house fire, your insurance company will have every right to reject your claim when they see a non-certified bulb adapter burnt into the socket.

        Personally I try to stick with B22 bulbs from elsewhere and it would be great if either:
        - some company certified a Edison-to-B22 adapter
        - IKEA offered B22 versions of their bulbs directly

        • bargaino on 16/12/2020 - 15:03
          +3

          AFAIK you cannot legally use those adaptors

          NOT true. The regulations apply to retailers. You can use them, you just cannot sell them. Like a 17yo with a glass of beer.

          The problem is whether you think of them as converting a socket, or a bulb.
          If you put one in a socket, the collar may be live, and induce an unpleasant tingle if you insert your finger. It is really no more hazardous than an ordinary B22 socket, but does not meet standards.

          HOWEVER, if you put adaptor on the bulb first, and then insert to B22 socket, everything is just normal. This is the best approach.

          my understanding is that if one of your bulbs burn out and causes a house fire,

          Oh no, not that BS again. Yes you are FUD. Be ashamed for listening to those people. Total BS.

          The real problem is that a bulb with adaptor is often too long.

          • fredblogs on 16/12/2020 - 15:29
            +1

            @bargaino: "unpleasant tingle" such as death?

            • bargaino on 16/12/2020 - 15:34

              @fredblogs: Nope.
              Well, maybe if you are standing barefoot on wet concrete, and your house has no RCD … nah, even then very unlikely.
              You'd have to figure out a way to keep your finger in the socket for some time (seconds?), despite the pain and muscle contractions.

              This is just one of those scare stories that people like you spread to feel good.
              Low voltage electricity such a s 230V is not without dangers, but is not always the instant death that your fairy stories tell of.

              But yeah, always disconnect at the meterbox before modifying or installing any light fitting. (As the Ikea instructions remind us.)

          • mctubster on 16/12/2020 - 16:27

            @bargaino: This is the way

          • Iggemo on 16/12/2020 - 16:31

            @bargaino: Thanks for replying, can i ask for your opinion also on this:
            https://www.amazon.com.au/Blesiya-Light-Socket-Power-Switch/…

            I recently purchased one to use on a ceiling light where - let me be clear - the fluorescent tubes are already connected via a power socket. Would this be okay in your opinion?

            Thanks in advance : )

            • bargaino on 16/12/2020 - 16:46

              @Iggemo: Nothing wrong with that. It just depends how you hang it.
              Have you considered uplights? e.g. https://www.ikea.com/au/en/p/not-floor-uplighter-black-90139…

              Ikea sell E14 cord-set for $4, but I don't see E27 version. If you don't want to wait 2 month for delivery from China, you could probably find a cheap Ikea lamp, and just use the cord.

              https://www.ikea.com/au/en/p/strala-cord-set-white-90371440/

              • Iggemo on 16/12/2020 - 16:48

                @bargaino: Thanks for replying : ). Yes the room already has a really large hanging fluorescent light (x2) unit which is just plugged in via power and it really would be convenient to simply unplug that, plug in the adapter and a new bulb if possible and save space so, yes, it is a wait to receive it (couldnt find it sold locally anywhere) but i think in the long run it will be neat. Thanks heaps!

    • Darkscythe on 16/12/2020 - 12:50
      +1

      No B22 at all

  • joeiwu on 16/12/2020 - 12:55
    +1

    So in theory these could be linked to Hue Hub and thereby integrate into HomeKit? Has anyone had any personal experience?

    • bargaino on 16/12/2020 - 12:58

      Hue Hub and thereby integrate into HomeKit?

      Yes, but not directly. You need a Homebridge server in between. This is a simple program, but you need an always-on server to run it, such as a PC or Raspberry Pi.

      Homebridge is cool, and adds many new options for Homekit.

      • thatsnasty on 16/12/2020 - 14:15
        +1

        I'm confused. I didn't think you can use the lightbulb without the bridge. never mind I misread the original comment. The bridge (https://www.ikea.com/au/en/p/tradfri-gateway-white-40337811/) is homekit compatible so that would make the lightbulb compatible as well. Just like Hue.

        • joeiwu on 16/12/2020 - 14:20

          Yea that’s what I thought, as Hue bridge is HomeKit compatible already?

          • slimjim on 16/12/2020 - 14:29
            +1

            @joeiwu: Hue bridge is HomeKit compatible with Hue bulbs, but Ikea bulbs on a Hue bridge are not HomeKit compatible.

            • joeiwu on 16/12/2020 - 14:44

              @slimjim: Yea but in my experience, if the Hub is, then whatever tags onto the hub translates to being compatible. Though, I wasn't sure, hence my question. In theory, Homekit has nothing to do with Zigbee, and Hue bulbs are ZigBee bulbs like these ones. So the Hue Hub makes the bulbs homekit compatible, but Hue bulbs itself technically speaking aren't HomeKit compatible. Not sure of my diagnosis makes sense?

      • Droz on 16/12/2020 - 14:26

        Hmmm, trying to get my head around this coming from a starting point of almost zero… Is there a good guide about the differences/requirements between all the protocols? For instance, I'd like to use Google Home for a bunch of stuff, and I have a Pi floating around doing nothing… How would I go about adding Ikea Zigbee lights to my setup?

        • bargaino on 16/12/2020 - 15:51

          Some Echo devices speak Zigbee, but not Google Home.
          To control Zigbee lights from Google, you need a bridge such as the $39 Ikea bridge. It "bridges" between Zigbee and TCP/IP (internet or LAN) .

          • Droz on 16/12/2020 - 16:06

            @bargaino: Thanks for the reply!

            Oh yeah, I remember reading about some Amazon device having a Zigbee controller.

            So, I buy the Ikea gateway, connect it to Google Assistant through the Ikea app, and then all I need is a constant internet connection to operate my lights, but failing that I can use the Ikea switches?

            And, if I wanted to do it without an internet connection, I'd need to find a different solution than Google Home?

            • bargaino on 16/12/2020 - 16:12
              +1

              @Droz: Yes. The Ikea switches will work locally, no internet needed. Same with Hue.

              You only need internet for voice control by Alexa or Google.
              I believe Homekit does local voice control with Siri.

  • Charlie Dont Surf on 16/12/2020 - 12:58

    Thanks OP.

  • inherentchoice on 16/12/2020 - 12:59

    At first glance this post looks like a standard bulb rather than a smart/wifi one?

    • eug on 16/12/2020 - 14:08
      +9

      What about your second glance?

      • HunterBargainHunter on 16/12/2020 - 14:58
        +7

        a bulb lights up

        • qwijibo on 16/12/2020 - 15:58

          a bulb lights up

          yes, but it starts out quite dim

      • inherentchoice on 16/12/2020 - 15:31
        +2

        On second glance made the above comment to point out issue.

        Post was edited a few minutes after my comment and they added "smart" to title. So now it's clear. Perhaps my comment worked/helped then?

        https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/591330/revisions#1249156vs…

        Edit was made one hour before you replied to my comment. Your first glance was presumably after the edit?

        • bargaino on 16/12/2020 - 15:45
          +1

          Yes, I did add the word Smart in response to your comment. Don't let the teasers worry you.

          I figure if one person is brave enough to post the comment, there were probably a hundred others who were also unclear.

  • tp0 on 16/12/2020 - 13:22
    +2

    Works natively with HomeKit via a TRADFRI gateway. No need for HomeBridge.

    • bargaino on 16/12/2020 - 13:27

      Thanks, good to know. I don't suppose the TRADFRI gateway allows Homekit to see the Ikea switches and sensors?

      • tp0 on 16/12/2020 - 13:58

        TRADFRI steering devices (switches and sensors) aren’t exposed to HomeKit.

        • bargaino on 16/12/2020 - 14:52

          That's what I was afraid of. Just like 3rd party bulbs are not exposed to Homekit by Hue, and Apple is probably to blame.

          SmartThings hub can work with Ikea steering devices, BTW, so it is possible. But Homekit refuses to talk to cloud services, so again you need Homebridge.

  • Iggemo on 16/12/2020 - 14:07
    +1

    I'm new to these kind of smart bulbs, i see people talking about "hubs", is there a way to use an app or something to change the brightness etc, is that the way these usually work? Thanks in advance : ).

    • sobes on 16/12/2020 - 14:58
      +7

      I've had to learn all this recently, so here's a basic summary of my findings:

      All bulbs will have some kind of app for controlling them, and the app required usually depends on brand of of the bulbs.

      Hubs are a single centralized device that connect and manages all the bulbs. Some bulbs will require a hub to control them and others don't. Without a hub, you control bulbs by connecting to each one individually over WiFi or Bluetooth - this isn't a huge deal for a small number of devices, but if there are multiple people controlling the bulbs, or if you've got a large number of them (which you probably will), it's much cleaner to have a single hub responsible for managing the lights. Instead of connecting to each light individually, you (or anyone else) just connects to the single hub and it handles everything.

      You'll also probably come across the term "ZigBee", which is a communication protocol (kinda like WiFi or Bluetooth) for smart devices to interact with each other. You'll likely have a lot of smart devices (i.e. individual bulbs), and having so many devices on the same WiFi network can cause issues with home routers. You can look at it like cars on a road - instead of everything at home sharing the same lane, ZigBee is like having a separate lane for smart devices. Another benefit is that ZigBee devices can work together even between different brands - i.e. I've got these IKEA bulbs working alongside Philips bulbs and a Philips hub. Being able to control all lights from a single app is so much better than being locked into one brand only, or needing multiple different apps to control your setup.

      Of course devices compatible with ZigBee are a bit pricier, so it just depends on the scope of what you want - if you're just after a couple of smart bulbs, then cheaper WiFi bulbs will be fine, but if you're wanting a long term approach that you can build on then a hub and devices using ZigBee is the way to go.

      Hope that helps, let me know if you have any more questions!

      • Iggemo on 16/12/2020 - 15:58
        +1

        Wow, thanks so much for that thorough reply, really appreciate it!

    • S2 on 16/12/2020 - 20:12

      If you want a simpler solution, you can buy this TRADFRI combo, also from Ikea. The controller will allow you to turn the light on and off and dim it. Pretty cheap package for $15. The combo is 800 lumen vs 1000 lumen in this deal.

      • Iggemo on 16/12/2020 - 20:33
        +1

        Thanks and, yep, i indeed did buy the dimmer too, got the bulb and dimmer delivered for $16.50 after joining ikea family!

  • BlitzR on 16/12/2020 - 14:09
    -2

    These may be 1000 Lumen, but they don't seem to be very bring when I saw it in store, well not as bright as the lifx bulb that I have.

    • eug on 16/12/2020 - 14:12
      +2

      Is your home as brightly-lit as Ikea? A 1000 lumen bulb in a brightly-lit hall would look dimmer than the same bulb in a dimmer home.

      • BlitzR on 16/12/2020 - 15:43
        +1

        sorrry, i didnt add that I actually bought 4, but when i tested them at home, my lifx bulbs (set to 2750 and 2500k) were still brighter then the ikea ones. either way, $7.49 is great value.

    • gadget on 16/12/2020 - 14:37
      -1

      In store vs home, 1000lm vs 800lm, not comparable.

  • eriktufa on 16/12/2020 - 14:35

    Can I use this as a normal bulb?

    • gadget on 16/12/2020 - 14:45

      Yes, but why? These consume 12.5W whereas a similar Philips globe uses 10.5W for about the same price (on sale)

      • eriktufa on 16/12/2020 - 16:09
        +1

        Ah didn't know Phillips' one is for sale. Thanks!

      • bargaino on 16/12/2020 - 16:23
        +1

        2W difference, need 5000 hours of use to save $3 in power. Possible.

        But wow, it had not occurred to me that these were cheaper than a 1000-lumen dumb-light.

        • gadget on 16/12/2020 - 21:35

          The rated life of these bulbs are 15- 25k hours. You'll make back the price of the bulb in a few years.

  • morediscount on 16/12/2020 - 14:57

    Is the dimmer also compatible with Hue ?

    • bargaino on 16/12/2020 - 15:06
      +1

      As above, sort of. But the dimmer talks direct to bulbs, and cannot interact with hub or apps. Bulb works just fine.

      • morediscount on 16/12/2020 - 15:07

        oh ok .. so then I could control a Philips bulb with it ? or will it only work with the ikea one?

        • bargaino on 16/12/2020 - 15:11
          +1

          Yes, you can control a Philips bulb with it.

          e.g. in my bedroom, I have the 4-button Phillips switch by the door to control all lights. But I also have Ikea twist-dimmers on individual bed-side lights.

      • algy on 16/12/2020 - 16:02
        +2

        Switch works perfectly fine with Connbee2 and HomeAssistant for me

  • morediscount on 16/12/2020 - 15:16

    Dimmer changes to $15 when I add to cart ?

    • bargaino on 16/12/2020 - 15:27
      +2

      Free IKEA Family login needed.

      • Iggemo on 16/12/2020 - 16:13

        When i try create one it keeps erroring, saying password required even though i am registering a new account and have entered a password which, afaik, meets all the requirements.

        • Iggemo on 16/12/2020 - 17:02
          +2

          Just putting this here for others' benefit; i couldnt make an account on desktop no matter what i did in any browser, but i was able to download the app and make a family account in there. Not only that, they emailed me a $10 voucher so i actually got the dimmer and the bulb delivered for $16.50, which is nice.

  • OzBerghainer on 16/12/2020 - 15:26
    +2

    Didn't realise Ikea did zigbee bulbs. Very handy to extend the hue ecosystem

    • sobes on 16/12/2020 - 18:58
      +1

      Yeah much cheaper alternatives.

      There are a few minor flaws - if selecting a pre-configured scene in the Hue app, the colour of the IKEA bulb will change fine but the brightness won't update, you've gotta trigger that specifically yourself.

      Also the IKEA colour bulbs can rarely randomly reset to default state and colour. This only happens on one of the two bulbs I have, but I've read about it happening (very rarely) to others online.

      I can live with those things when the bulbs are less than half price, but just something to know in advance.

  • Frozensage on 16/12/2020 - 15:37
    +1

    I use them with my mi gateway. Sometimes iffy but once setup it does work with automation on sensors.

    • io on 16/12/2020 - 18:00

      What!!! we can pair this bulb with Xiaomi Gateway? Wow.

  • rokufan on 16/12/2020 - 16:15

    Are these about the same size as normal bulbs? I have ceiling fans with lights and Philips Hue bulbs were too big to clip the light bowl cover over.

    • bargaino on 16/12/2020 - 16:25

      Which Hue? The new flat-end style?

      The 806 lumen Ikea bulbs are the same size as the old A60 Hue ones, and this 1000 lumen model is a bit longer. Specs are on the Ikea website.

      • rokufan on 16/12/2020 - 16:35

        I had the A60s and they were too big. Thanks.

  • wherestherice on 16/12/2020 - 16:37

    I bought one of these a while ago (but Mirabella brand) and still have no idea what to do with it lol

    • this is us on 16/12/2020 - 17:16
      +1

      Pair it with a hub and when you are in bed you say "Hey Google, turn off the lights". Good night.

      • wherestherice on 16/12/2020 - 18:41

        Now I just gotta buy a hub

        • bargaino on 16/12/2020 - 19:35

          No you don't. Mirabella Genio? That is a wifi bulb, not the same as this.
          It is Tuya based so you just need Tuya or Smartlife etc app on a phone.

        • this is us on 17/12/2020 - 11:52

          As @manic said, some light globes (e.g., Mirabella Genio, Kogan (I think)) don't require a hub. If you are unsure about the hub, you can try them first.

  • beOson on 16/12/2020 - 16:53

    Does anyone know if I will need a hub/gateway for this kit to work?
    https://www.ikea.com/au/en/p/tradfri-dimmer-kit-50435929/

    • io on 16/12/2020 - 17:58
      +2

      I have bought this for $15 as well. No you do not need anything else to turn on off the bulb.

      • beOson on 16/12/2020 - 22:12

        Thanks so much. I'll grab one.

      • hongerwonger on 20/12/2020 - 18:48

        Did any of you guys find it extremely difficult to open up the dimmer switch to put the battery in? I bought 2 and they're both like dead bolted on

    • S2 on 16/12/2020 - 20:14
      +1

      I think this is a better deal for those who don't need a connected home and are happy with 800 lumen. As io answered, nothing else is needed.

      • beOson on 16/12/2020 - 22:13

        Yes, this is exactly what my house needs, to use as a night light for the kids (and can turn on and off without a phone or through a smart assistant app). Thank you.

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