Wearing a Mask When Not Mandatory to Set a Good Example to Your Own Community?

AustriaBargain on 12/01/2021 - 12:57
Last edited 12/01/2021 - 12:58

Just wondering what you guys think of wearing a mask not because you think you need one in a state where there are no community cases, but just to help normalise mask wearing. Lots of kids in the community could live in households where the adults are skeptics about the science of stopping a pandemic and where a mask is seen as silly or pointless, or an affront to their liberty to show off their pretty lips maybe. So if those kids and adults see other adults wearing a mask like it's nothing at all then it could help noramlise it in their minds. Even though the state still recommends masks and the supermarkets have signs out front recommending masks, most people don't wear them. In some other countries masks are normal, if you're sick, or if there is flu about, or you're just worried about getting sick then you put on a mask and it's totally normal, no one thinks it's any stranger than putting socks and shoes on your feet before leaving the house.

Covid probably would kill my very heavyset parents so I would wear one while out anyway.

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Comments

    • netjock on 12/01/2021 - 13:18
      +2

      It isn't about moral superiority. Letting a contagious disease which causes widespread shut down spread is putting all our freedom at risk. Unless people see death as the ultimate form of freedom.

      When it is safe people can do whatever they want. Problem is people think they are safe when they might recover but inadvertently take away the freedom of others (death sentence or long COVID).

      You wouldn't want to go spreading Polio I'm wondering why people want to spread COVID.

      • Cheaplikethebird on 12/01/2021 - 13:45
        +23

        Dont think you guys are getting the point, I am 100% sincere with my comment.

        I have the same opinions around mask wearing I just think walking around silently judging people is not healthy for society nor justified. Maybe it's just the cynic in me but I read posts like this and I see more ego-stroking than genuine concern for others.

        • AustriaBargain on 12/01/2021 - 13:48
          -3

          Aren't people capable of silently judging you whether or not they are wearing a mask?

          • Cheaplikethebird on 12/01/2021 - 14:00
            +5

            @AustriaBargain: I'm confused with what you're trying to say there.

            • AustriaBargain on 12/01/2021 - 15:14
              -2

              @Cheaplikethebird: If the issue is that you're worried people with a mask on are silently judging you, then couldn't they (even without a mask on) silently judge you for any number of other things, like your haircut, your gait, your clothing, your height, your accent, etc. Stopping other people from wearing masks or telling them they are wrong to do so, because you feel silently judged, does not actually solve the real problem which is your concern with being silently judged in the first place. I think you should worry less about being silently judged because people tend to think about themselves and their own situations when out and about, even if they are wearing a mask to set a good example they will forget they even have a mask on after a short while. Do you silently judge strangers a lot when you're out and about? If you think about silent judgement a lot then maybe that's why silent judgement is on your mind a lot in the first place.

              • Cheaplikethebird on 12/01/2021 - 15:37
                +7

                @AustriaBargain: You've misunderstood me again mate. I'm not worried about people judging me for not wearing a mask because I do wear a mask. I just think that more and more we're a society that walks around assuming everyone else is an a-hole while we pat ourselves on the back, I see it in myself, and that's not the sort of society that I want to live in.

                • Cheaplikethebird on 12/01/2021 - 15:47
                  +6

                  @Cheaplikethebird: Also hygiene fatigue is real. I assume you're not from VIC so lets reconvene after you've spent 6 months of mandatory mask wearing and see how you feel about it all then.

                  For context I'm an inner city Melbourne hipster and all my friends are polyamorous DJs from Brunswick types, very left wing. At the start of the pandemic the general attitude around me was adamantly pro-mask bordering on militant, now a year in and especially after we had mandatory masks everywhere in public which was then eased back to just masks in large shops and now most people are pretty blasé about it.

              • capslock janitor on 24/01/2021 - 10:59

                @AustriaBargain: I wear mask anyway coz CBF keeping up with the constant flip and flopping.

        • netjock on 12/01/2021 - 14:10
          +1

          I just think walking around silently judging people is not healthy for society nor justified

          It is a matter of perspective.

          I am not going to confront people who are not wearing a mask. Neither do I judge. It is a red flag that I need to keep my social distance. Even with a mask I am not going into an obvious crowd.

          Whether people without a mask believes they are silently being judge is their own matter. I assume if they have good reason to not wear a mask then they have clear conscience.

      • Scrooge McDuck on 12/01/2021 - 16:12
        +1

        Letting a contagious disease which causes widespread shut down spread is putting all our freedom at risk.

        You're confusing COVID with media fear mongering.

        • netjock on 12/01/2021 - 16:14
          +8

          Okay mate. Another one who is lucky to live in a country with low infection and death rates. If you lived in Italy or Spain you'll be telling a different story.

          • ozhunter on 12/01/2021 - 16:30
            +1

            @netjock: They haven't had a lockdown?

          • brendanm on 12/01/2021 - 19:20
            +6

            @netjock: Strangely enough, we are in Australia, so the conditions in Italy or Spain have no bearing on whether we need to wear a mask here.

            • whooah1979 on 12/01/2021 - 21:02

              @brendanm: That doesn't make sense. Other countries have been wearing masks for decades. How did we (Western cultures) survive all this time without adapting to their culture? 🤔

              • Bjingo on 15/01/2021 - 15:53
                +1

                @whooah1979: We have adapted to aspects from other cultures for a very long time for example toothbrushes, tea, fireworks, electronic calculators, flash memory, even paper and ink were adapted from other cultures. Often change or the sharing tools and information can be a positive thing for the progression of a country. Utilizing the experiences and knowledge of others is a very good practice for a country its why we have paper money. One of humans greatest strengths is in fact our ability of adaptation, it is why you can find humans all over the planet despite uninhabitable conditions.

                Just because someone else did it first doesn't mean we can't do it too.

          • infinite on 12/01/2021 - 22:20
            +2

            @netjock: Death rate figures in Italy for 2020 were released and actually had a slight overall decline compared to 2019. Carona + Flu deaths in 2020 were also less in total than just flu deaths in 2019. The UN stated it was because the flu in 2019 was nasty strain through that section of Europe.

            • Randolph Duke on 13/01/2021 - 02:20
              +2

              @infinite: Do you have a link for this?

              • Bren20 on 13/01/2021 - 07:58
                +1

                @Randolph Duke: Even if they do have a link, they're cherry picking data, it doesn't matter if 1 severely hit country has had a random decrease in overall deaths. If that trend is not seen elsewhere it's just random noise

                • AKasemi on 13/01/2021 - 12:53
                  +2

                  @Bren20: How is it cherry picking data if that data is correct? If X many people died last year compared to this year what is the cherry picking of the detail. However unless @netjock provides a link then everything on the internet is Fake News unless proven.

                  • Bren20 on 13/01/2021 - 13:22
                    +1

                    @AKasemi: If Covid has impacted 50 countries and in 49 countries there are more deaths than last year, but Italy happens to have less deaths, this is cherry picking data

                    • AKasemi on 13/01/2021 - 13:27
                      +2

                      @Bren20: are you sure about that, in America there was 300,000 fewer deaths compared to 2019. But as i said no link then prob a lie but will try to find link.

                      • Bren20 on 13/01/2021 - 13:48
                        +2

                        @AKasemi: No, I'm not asserting that as a fact, but just pointing out we should be wary of statistics

                        I see several issues with the 'decrease in deaths in Italy' proposition

                        • Is it factually correct? I had a quick attempt to verify but couldn't
                        • Is it cherry picked data - is this trend seen in other countries?
                        • Is it relevant to the argument? Lockdowns and other public health measures could be expected to reduce deaths for many reasons - fewer car accidents, decreased emissions causing fewer respiratory issues, decreased social violence (not including domestic violence), decreased prevalence of other communicable diseases. What is the purpose of pointing out that there are fewer deaths compared to other years? What does this prove? You can research the underlying fact as I tried to do, but even if it is true it doesn't add to the argument in any meaningful way

                        I am not asserting any facts in this post, just that we should be wary of anyone quoting anything as we do not have a good understanding of the bigger picture.

                      • tomfool on 14/01/2021 - 11:57
                        -1

                        @AKasemi: This link has the stats and If I am reading the graph correct the USA had significantly more deaths. Italy also lookde to have more but the reporting for them seems to stops around Nov.
                        https://ourworldindata.org/excess-mortality-covid

                    • MementoMori on 13/01/2021 - 17:48
                      +1

                      @Bren20: Also less deaths here in Australia

                      Sweden roughly the same

            • snackerjoe on 13/01/2021 - 18:09
              +2

              @infinite: I highly doubt this unless you are able to provide a link. I tried but couldn't find any articles with full season statistics, only those with a few months and even then the death rate actually seemed really low for the number of flu infections (here's one example).

              However there was a study covering the winters from 2013/14 to 2016/17 and the stats showed that for 5.29m annual average infected, more than 68K died, so a death rate of 0.32%. According to worldmeters, covid infected 2.3m in Italy and about 80K died so that's almost 3.5% death rate. More than 10x the usual flu death rate (and Italy already has a higher flu death rate compared to the rest of Europe according to that link).

              Therefore unless you can provide an actual link I'm going to highly doubt your statement.

    • ozhunter on 12/01/2021 - 16:31
      +2

      but I try to suppress my feelings of moral superiority

      that's hilarious.

      How much more morally superior would you feel if you wore a hazmat suit?

      • Scrooge McDuck on 12/01/2021 - 16:50
        +2

        I'm wearing a space suit, bow to me!

      • Cheaplikethebird on 12/01/2021 - 17:00
        +2

        Haha I hope you realise that was tongue in cheek.

        • Bren20 on 13/01/2021 - 08:00
          +1

          I thought you were 100% sincere?

  • jwh on 12/01/2021 - 13:17
    +6

    For people who are deaf/hard of hearing, other people wearing masks can severely inhibit their ability to communicate.

    Why try to normalise something if it is not required?

    • netjock on 12/01/2021 - 13:20
      +16

      Why try to normalise something if it is not required?

      People have normalised a lot more stupid things and I haven't seen any push back.

      • jwh on 12/01/2021 - 13:21
        +1

        Example?

        I gave a specific example of how normalising it could work as a detriment to the community.

        • netjock on 12/01/2021 - 13:26
          +5

          Example?

          If you meet a deaf / hearing impaired you can take the mask off.

          No mask = spreading it to those who are not deaf / hearing impaired too.

          1 in 6 Australian are hearing impaired

          Are you advocating letting 6 people get COVID19 just so the 1 can just so happen to hear you? Are you over estimating your looks?

          • jwh on 12/01/2021 - 13:59
            +3

            @netjock:

            Are you over estimating your looks?

            No, I am part of the deaf community. Nice try though.

            If you meet a deaf / hearing impaired you can take the mask off.

            I have seen first hand where people get agitated and refuse to remove masks for those who are having difficulty understanding them, and people being judged for not wearing a mask when it is required for them to be able to communicate.

            1 in 6 Australian are hearing impaired

            That's a significant number.

            • netjock on 12/01/2021 - 14:07
              -1

              @jwh:

              I have seen first hand where people get agitated and refuse to remove masks for those who are having difficulty understanding them

              Isn't it their freedom and personal choice just as you want a choice to choose?

              people being judged for not wearing a mask when it is required for them to be able to communicate.

              Also a personal choice.

              That's a significant number.

              So is giving it to everyone that you might come across, Victoria Black Rock Thai restaurant case is exactly to the point.

              People who can't be a little bit inconvenienced.

              Not sure the troubles you are having but maybe an etch a sketch to tell people you are hearing impaired and they either need to mask off or etch a sketch a response. Only $10 at Kmart. A whole lot cheaper than masks, agitation, long COVID, ICU residence or even a wait to get tested.

              • brendanm on 12/01/2021 - 14:15
                +5

                @netjock:

                Not sure the troubles you are having but maybe an etch a sketch to tell people you are hearing impaired and they either need to mask off or etch a sketch a response.

                I hope you aren't actually serious. That is the most patronising bullshit thing I've seen in a while.

                • netjock on 12/01/2021 - 14:17
                  +3

                  @brendanm: It is only patronising because you believe it is.

                  Writing has been an essential tool to pass on information. Just because someone is hard at hearing doesn't mean we cancelled the telegraph.

                  • brendanm on 12/01/2021 - 14:18
                    +5

                    @netjock: So that user should carry an etch a sketch like a 3 year old, because you want to wear a mask for a disease no one here has? Totally not patronising. The number of hearing impaired people massively outnumber the number of people who have had covid here.

                    • netjock on 12/01/2021 - 14:20
                      +2

                      @brendanm:

                      So that user should carry an etch a sketch like a 3 year old

                      If you believe you look like a 3 year old. It is because it is easy to erase and it is cheap. Larger than a note pad with lines through it and having to rip off pieces each time you write.

                      It is about utility.

                      It is like adults spending up big for small baby stuff rather than looking at utility.

                      • brendanm on 12/01/2021 - 14:22
                        +2

                        @netjock: That user does not have to carry an etch a sketch. They are the normal ones, people wearing masks are not.

                        • netjock on 12/01/2021 - 14:25
                          +3

                          @brendanm:

                          people wearing masks are not

                          You wear masks when there is an utility. There is an utility now and it is normal. Wearing masks is normal.

                          • brendanm on 12/01/2021 - 14:25
                            +3

                            @netjock:

                            There is an utility now

                            No, there isn't.

                            • netjock on 12/01/2021 - 14:26
                              +5

                              @brendanm: Think you might need a transfusion of common sense.

                              • brendanm on 12/01/2021 - 14:28
                                +3

                                @netjock: Think you might need a transfusion of logic. How many people have it in Australia? How many of those people are in hotel quarantine? How many are out and about?

                                • netjock on 12/01/2021 - 14:31
                                  +4

                                  @brendanm:

                                  How many people have it in Australia? How many of those people are in hotel quarantine? How many are out and about?

                                  If they are out and about how do you identify these people? You think if they had obvious indicators people have willingly caught the virus from them like it is some kind of award everyone wants to get their hands on?

                                  I have a friend who's relative was in 6 months of lock down then got a visit from asymptomatic member of the family and died. Another family member died also under lock down when they only go to two places. Had a friend who caught it from GP surgery.

                                  • Scrooge McDuck on 12/01/2021 - 17:22
                                    +12

                                    @netjock: A relative of mine died from pneumonia, in their 90s. All of my grandparents died from, something.

                                    Anecdotes are not valuable, they don't have comparisons and they are not statistically significant.

                                    The case fatality ratio of COVID is low and correlated with advanced age and other poor health factors, just like other respiratory illnesses.

                                    US case fatality ratio of COVID-19

                                    Age group CFR
                                    0–19 0.00003
                                    20–49 0.0002
                                    50–69 0.005
                                    70+ 0.054

                                    https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/hcp/planning-scena…

                                    • netjock on 12/01/2021 - 17:35
                                      -4

                                      @Scrooge McDuck:

                                      A relative of mine died from pneumonia, in their 90s. All of my grandparents died from, something.

                                      Here is the testimonial that makes you an expert and your relatives are just fodder for illness. So everything is okay folks.

                                      The case fatality ratio of COVID is low and correlated with advanced age and other poor health factors, just like other respiratory illnesses.

                                      Using statistics to say it is very low, unfortunately if you multiply that number out into the general population it becomes a rather large number:

                                      COVID-19: There have been approximately 1,936,436 deaths reported worldwide. In the U.S, 374,341 people have died of COVID-19 between January 2020 and January 11, 2021.

                                      Flu: The World Health Organization estimates that 290,000 to 650,000 people die of flu-related causes every year worldwide.

                                      John Hopkins

                                      If 370k died in the US with a population of 300m and there is 7.5bn people in the world you are talking about roughly 9m people dying from COVID19 vs 0.6m from the flu.

                                      But it is alright long as it is not in my back yard?

                                      • Scrooge McDuck on 12/01/2021 - 17:43
                                        +8

                                        @netjock:

                                        Using statistics to say it is very low, unfortunately if you multiply that number out into the general population it becomes a rather large number:

                                        You've just illustrated your scientific illiteracy. Statistics are the scientific way to quantify phenomena. Large numbers are the way the media mongers fear.

                                      • ozhunter on 12/01/2021 - 19:35
                                        +3

                                        @netjock:

                                        Using statistics to say it is very low, unfortunately if you multiply that number out into the general population it becomes a rather large number:

                                        LOL

                                        If 370k died in the US with a population of 300m and there is 7.5bn people in the world you are talking about roughly 9m people dying from COVID19 vs 0.6m from the flu.

                                        Why not use Australia's covid mortality rate?

                                        • Chandler on 13/01/2021 - 11:00

                                          @ozhunter:

                                          Why not use Australia's covid mortality rate?

                                          Would Australia's COVID mortality rate not be skewed from what we've done here to reduce the spread? A few examples that come to mind, especially when compared to the US

                                          • Availability of healthcare (both in general and that our healthcare system isn't overloaded with COVID patients due to reduced spread)
                                          • Availability of PPE
                                          • Aged care closures / restrictions
                                          • Restrictions and procedures put into place for outbreaks (i.e. venue/border closures, mask wearing)

                                          These all reduce the spread and reduce the chances of people getting it. Whilst all of this doesn't affect the virus' lethality, it would still have an impact on mortality rate because the people more at risk of actually dying from it aren't even getting it, and those that do can get access to good healthcare quickly.

                                          Reducing the spread has a lot of benefits - the entire point of us "flattening the curve" wasn't to get rid of the virus (which it's done a pretty good job of doing anyway), it was to stop our healthcare systems from getting overloaded.

                                    • Chandler on 13/01/2021 - 11:03

                                      @Scrooge McDuck: Are the US numbers reliable but? I remember seeing media (so large grain of salt) reports of deaths due to COVID not necessarily being recorded as such.

                                      • Scrooge McDuck on 13/01/2021 - 13:03
                                        +2

                                        @Chandler: There are also reports of inflated deaths due to people who died with rather than because of COVID.

                                        The data are from the CDC in the US.

                                        • Chandler on 13/01/2021 - 13:44

                                          @Scrooge McDuck: True, the knife cuts both ways.

                                          Interesting if the deaths with COVID but not due to COVID could be attributable to reduced/delayed healthcare due to COVID - i.e. patient with COVID (but not in ICU) has a turn, healthcare workers need to PPE up to access which takes longer; over-stretched staff can't respond in time; etc. Situations like that that wouldn't normally occur, either because that patient doesn't have COVID or the hospital itself isn't overworked due to COVID, etc. You know what I mean?

                                • smartazz104 on 12/01/2021 - 16:17

                                  @brendanm: Get back to us when you've run 27 million tests.

              • Gnostikos on 12/01/2021 - 14:40
                +4

                @netjock:

                Not sure the troubles you are having but maybe an etch a sketch to tell people you are hearing impaired

                Great idea.
                Maybe you could hang a wearable billboard around your neck with some kind of two-word phrase written on it to let us all know you're a sanctimonius spastic? That would be great.

                • netjock on 12/01/2021 - 15:45

                  @Gnostikos: You just don't read and start bad mouthing. It is about reusability and erasability of the surface. Stop acting like a 9 year old thinking it is some kind of a put down.

              • jwh on 12/01/2021 - 19:58
                +5

                @netjock: Wish I had a chance to reply earlier…

                maybe an etch a sketch to tell people you are hearing impaired and they either need to mask off or etch a sketch a response

                Excellent response! Ridicule people with a disability and diminish them to the mental capacity of children. Bravo!

                Also a personal choice.

                That's right. You've made a personal choice to go on one end of the extreme and promote fear, with an all or nothing outcome. But that won't stop me advocating for people's right to be able to communicate.

                Victoria Black Rock Thai restaurant case is exactly to the point

                Irrelevant point, as people still won’t be wearing masks in restaurants, unless you’re calling for them to be closed again?

          • brendanm on 12/01/2021 - 14:14
            +2

            @netjock:

            Are you advocating letting 6 people get COVID19 just so the 1 can just so happen to hear you?

            Well this is ironic.

            • netjock on 12/01/2021 - 14:24

              @brendanm: You are not very good with numbers.

              Only the person you are speaking to needs to remove their mask. They may or may not get infected. If all 6 people are not wearing masks they will pass it amongst themselves.

              • brendanm on 12/01/2021 - 14:24
                -3

                @netjock: No
                One
                Has
                It
                To
                Spread
                It

                  • brendanm on 12/01/2021 - 14:30
                    +3

                    @netjock: Congrats, 99% are in hotel quarantine, they are cases that are internationally acquired.

                    • netjock on 12/01/2021 - 14:31
                      +2

                      @brendanm: Well we remember what happened in Victoria. Like "hotel quarantine" is some guarantee of safety. Clap clap.

                      • brendanm on 12/01/2021 - 14:43
                        +1

                        @netjock: It is if done correctly. Wear your mask if it allays your covid fears.

                        • netjock on 12/01/2021 - 14:47

                          @brendanm:

                          It is if done correctly

                          Wow why haven't they hired you to fix the 737 Max and other life threatening errors. If we lived in such a perfect world no COVID19. On yes, you're a denier.

                          • brendanm on 12/01/2021 - 15:50
                            +2

                            @netjock: Hmmmm, an aeroplane vs keeping people in one place. Which is more complicated. I honestly don't know.

                        • gromit on 13/01/2021 - 10:12

                          @brendanm: None of the states do it correctly. The cleaners all go home on public transport, they go to shopping centres and visit friends and now more stories this morning of cleaners not wearing their masks when cleaning. If they were taking quarantining seriously they would be doing defense in depth and quarantine staff would be on very strict community interactions as well.

                • AustriaBargain on 12/01/2021 - 14:33
                  +7

                  @brendanm:

                  No One Has It To Spread It

                  That used to be Charlie Sheen's attitude towards unprotected sex and his chances of catching HIV.

          • jellykingdom on 13/01/2021 - 05:48

            @netjock: At least this guy actually is deaf! I'm so effing sick of people using insane logic to avoid something so harmless as mask wearing. "Oh yeah but what if I throw up in my mouth, and the mask causes the vomit to spray up into my eyeballs, and I'm driving at the time, and then I can't see and I hit a bunch of kids?"
            People never cease the amaze me with their ability to make excuses not to do simple common sense things

            • netjock on 13/01/2021 - 10:14

              @jellykingdom: Not sure why you got -1 but I've restored the balance.

              I agree that people always over think the problem. When they don't over think doing other stupid things like putting money into bad investments.

            • brendanm on 13/01/2021 - 11:18
              +2

              @jellykingdom: There is no insane logic needed. I don't want to wear a mask, therefore, I won't. Others are free so wear them if it makes them feel safer.

              • jellykingdom on 13/01/2021 - 12:03

                @brendanm: But WHY don't you want to wear a mask? Are you simply just a douche? Because that's essentially what you're saying. You are saying that your desires come above literally everyone else's desires, in this case the desire to not risk getting extremely sick when it can be prevented. This is the problem with so many people, they're just selfish assholes

                • brendanm on 13/01/2021 - 12:26
                  +5

                  @jellykingdom: They are uncomfortable, difficult to breath in, and, most of all, unnecessary.

                  • snackerjoe on 13/01/2021 - 21:20

                    @brendanm: Probably the same things that were said about seatbelts when the laws first came in.

        • dasher86 on 12/01/2021 - 13:29

          body hair removal
          toilet paper

        • netjock on 12/01/2021 - 13:32

          Example?

          People with bad breath can get a taste of their own medicine.

    • Bjingo on 12/01/2021 - 18:46

      I see how this could be annoying for people with hearing issues but there are always alternative measures to communicating other than speech though none are as simple.
      I am not sure how everyone has interpreted what was written but I assume OP meant normalising wearing mask when you are sick not all the time, sure it is not required but I'm sure many people who are not sick would appreciate the courtesy. Plus, if we pushed towards being a more health conscious country a lot of immunocompromised people would likely have massive quality of life improvements.

      by required do you mean it is law? Because there are so many things that are normal but not required, something very obvious is the concept of manners, saying please and thank you is not required but it has been normalised. Another example is not using a chopping board you just cut meat on for something else.

      All actions of courtesy are not required which is what wearing a mask when sick is, you don't wear a mask for your sake you wear it for the sake of those around you, who do not want to catch whatever you are sick with.

    • yannyrjl on 15/01/2021 - 00:17

      indeed, I have bad hearing especially in one ear, and rely on lip reading to avoid asking someone to constantly repeat themselves, now I basically can't communicate and have to get up really close to understand.

    • jacross on 15/01/2021 - 21:07

      Well personally I have a basic ability to communicate in Auslan (though so basic that I could see a deaf person who is a good lip reader thinking…mate just let me read your lips this is painful) but under those circumstances I guess we could make the cultural norm to be 'remove the mask to communicate with a deaf person, without the requirement for that action being associated with shame or 'badness' on the part of the deaf person'.

      I'm now curious how asian mask wearing cultures handle that aspect.

  • FrugalNotStingy on 12/01/2021 - 13:20
    +20

    I will be wearing a mask when I’m out for at least the next couple of years. I don’t care if people would think that I look like a clown.

    Before masks were made mandatory during the hard lock down in Vic, I already started to wear one and people at the supermarket gave me funny looks and some people even thought I had caught Covid as they couldn’t make sense of why I was wearing a mask.

    • yannyrjl on 15/01/2021 - 00:21
      +3

      The thing that gets me is, I wore a mask when there were less information and a general fear of the 10% death rate in Italy. At the time the "experts" ridiculed masks, there were even long debates right here where supposed "educated" individuals wanted to part their wisdom and sited sources that confirm masks do more harm than good. Now, it's a full 180 and no apologise or accountability at all

      • FrugalNotStingy on 15/01/2021 - 01:25
        +1

        The fact that countries (including Australia) make mask wearing mandatory when there is a surge of cases and then make it voluntary when case numbers are down, then make it mandatory again when cases go back up doesn’t help.

  • [Deactivated] on 12/01/2021 - 13:23
    +14

    Shouldn't be a big issue for OzBargainers as mask wearing is a national pastime in Japan, the most discussed destination here. Just pretend everywhere is Harajuku during the 2001 surgery clothing fad.

    I wear a mask mainly so I can have the moral highground on everything and judge others freely.

  • DarthAntz on 12/01/2021 - 13:38
    +3

    I've been wearing a mask for 12 months now (living overseas). Haven't had a cold or flu the whole time, and neither has my wife. It's part of society and social norms now, and benefits us and our community. All my friends have the best and most comfortable masks too.

    • brendanm on 12/01/2021 - 13:53
      +22

      I haven't been wearing mask for 12 months, and haven't had a cold and flu in that time either.

      • HumbleCat on 13/01/2021 - 03:10
        +7

        I have never gotten vaccinated for flu. Never got it either. Like I havent gotten covid so why must I vaccinate. Itll teach them suckers at big pharma.

        Never seen a dentist and never get annual physicals. I dont even take a look at my bank statement unless theres no money. I sign contracts without reading them cause why not. Ill complain about muah rights after i get in a troublesome situation. Why get car insurance unless you have an accident. Waste of money

        Wake up sheeple, rise and shine. The snowflakes are falling

        /s

        • mdavant on 13/01/2021 - 06:03
          +1

          Wow, you generated that response because someone said they haven't worn a mask people are advocating for against a virus with effectively zero risk.

          • HumbleCat on 13/01/2021 - 07:46
            +4

            @mdavant: No, I paid a ghost writer to do it with eneloops

        • brendanm on 13/01/2021 - 07:52
          +2

          The tragic part about this post is that you don't even recognise the irony of it.

          • netjock on 13/01/2021 - 10:18
            +6

            @brendanm: Tragic part is you still believe in your views when it is obvious the irony of you not getting sick is the good work of other people not because the flu isn't there.

            Plenty of articles about Australia not getting hit by the flu because there hasn't been many overseas visitors carrying it in, washing hands, social distancing and mask wearing.

            • brendanm on 13/01/2021 - 11:21
              +2

              @netjock:

              irony of you not getting sick is the good work of other people not because the flu isn't there.

              You obviously don't understand either.

              My point was that that posters sample size of two as proof of masks working was ridiculous. I haven't worn a mask in the years before covid, and haven't had the flu then either.

      • netjock on 13/01/2021 - 10:16
        +1

        I haven't been wearing mask for 12 months, and haven't had a cold and flu in that time either.

        That is because everyone else is wearing masks and social distancing. Flu is also a form of coronavirus. It is how vaccines work, enough people get the vaccine (wear masks) you get enough suppression that everyone who thinks they are smart by not doing it doesn't get sick.

        • brendanm on 13/01/2021 - 11:22
          +1

          See above.

  • Bid Sniper on 12/01/2021 - 13:44
    +8

    Was mandatory in the 1918 Spanish flu, people where fine then about. Why are people more narcissistic and far more idiotic now?

    Just wear one indoors in public area areas and probably wear one if you're committing high crimes like insurrection.

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