Wearing a Mask When Not Mandatory to Set a Good Example to Your Own Community?

AustriaBargain on 12/01/2021 - 12:57
Last edited 12/01/2021 - 12:58

Just wondering what you guys think of wearing a mask not because you think you need one in a state where there are no community cases, but just to help normalise mask wearing. Lots of kids in the community could live in households where the adults are skeptics about the science of stopping a pandemic and where a mask is seen as silly or pointless, or an affront to their liberty to show off their pretty lips maybe. So if those kids and adults see other adults wearing a mask like it's nothing at all then it could help noramlise it in their minds. Even though the state still recommends masks and the supermarkets have signs out front recommending masks, most people don't wear them. In some other countries masks are normal, if you're sick, or if there is flu about, or you're just worried about getting sick then you put on a mask and it's totally normal, no one thinks it's any stranger than putting socks and shoes on your feet before leaving the house.

Covid probably would kill my very heavyset parents so I would wear one while out anyway.

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                • Ughhh on 14/01/2021 - 21:20

                  @whooah1979:

                  Identify a problem and sell the solution.

                  Problem: not enough minerals to build skyscrapers in China.

                  Solution: mining in Aust and selling minerals to China.

                  Is that CCP propaganda, Australian propaganda, Bob the builder propaganda?

                • petry on 15/01/2021 - 00:47

                  @whooah1979: more fake news…. the guardian is an embarrassment of a reputable source these days…

                  Maybe if the uighurs are in such imminent danger all those vassal states running this propaganda would be accepting thousands of them as refugees except of course they don't.

                  None of them want thousands of radicalised isis fighters and sympathisers in their countries… as opposed to the rich well educated living in hong kong who the english are handing out 5 passports per minute to like petrol trading stamps - hypocrisy on an ever increasing scale…

        • petry on 15/01/2021 - 12:54

          Most 50c'ers label anyone who disputes their fake news and fake facts as 50c'ers - its in their handbook.

  • jaimex2 on 14/01/2021 - 11:20
    +2

    Do whatever you like, it's a free country. Just don't assume its ok to impose your opinion on others.

  • CheeryCheapskate on 14/01/2021 - 11:33

    (Raises hand) Yep, I'm one that wore a mask before it was made mandatory when Covid19 started and wasn't taken seriously. I wore it mainly on public transport but wore it on the streets more to avoid smokers along the way. I didn't get any negative feedback from it, people did avoid me at first thinking what the heck was I doing but some cultures (Asian cultures) understood and seemed to sit near me more.

    I say ignore everyone else and just do whatever you want to do that makes you feel safe/comfortable when it comes to wearing a mask without law. I will still wear one just to avoid the common cold in the future even when/if Covid is eradicated.

    Basically do whatever you want and ignore any peer pressure/haters, etc.

    • Raj09 on 14/01/2021 - 14:00
      +1

      Yep agree with you. I used to hate masks. Now I am planning to wear them on trains. There are so many lunatics on the trains or public areas these days that the mask makes sense.

  • trapper on 14/01/2021 - 11:54
    +10

    Masks are not normal, so why would you want to normalise this?

    If there are community cases in your state then yeah I would wear a mask in public places where I am in close contact with other people.

    But when there are no community cases then why should you wear a mask?

    In WA we haven't had a community case for 10 months, why on earth would we all be wearing masks this whole time, life is basically normal here.

    • mdavant on 14/01/2021 - 13:55

      According to some posters, because it is your moral obligation to do so, because you are callously exposing yourself and others torelatively benign viruses.

    • Gnostikos on 14/01/2021 - 16:24
      +5

      In WA we haven't had a community case for 10 months

      In WA we haven't had a "pandemic", period. I don't think many people in VIC/NSW/QLD realise how uninterrupted normal living has been in this state and how incredibly asinine their hysterical suggestions for rearranging our lives sound here.

      You would never know there's some kind of global "pandemic" in WA if you didn't watch the news. We had three months of incredibly light restrictions last year and that was it.

      I've been regularly going into packed gyms, restaurants, bars and workplaces for most of last year and amazingly I've never seen anyone mutate into a zombie and try to chew on a nearby patron's head or projectile-vomit corrosive bile onto passersby or touch a grimy door handle and spontaneously combust on the spot.

      People act as if there is nowhere in the world right now that isn't living under medical Defcon-1 and cowering in pants-wetting fear over The Coof; this whole American-dominated perspective of COVID is dictating to the rest of the world how we should all behave and live for the rest of our lives when each country and even each state within a country is living under very different paradigms and likely will for the foreseeable future.

      There's no reason to punish the "winners" in this pandemic, with the standards of the "losers", just because they're irrationally terrified and love living like they're in 28 Days Later.

      • TheMindsetTraveller on 14/01/2021 - 19:01

        @Gnostikos

        I from Sydney and I am envious mate, you guys over on the west has had a good streak.

        Are your nightclubs open? Gosh I miss going to a nightclub, an underground rave, or even an EDM music festival.

        • Gnostikos on 14/01/2021 - 22:30
          +4

          I from Sydney and I am envious mate, you guys over on the west has had a good streak.

          Yeah, for once in the last 30 years… we're winning.

          My condolences, Sydney brethren. We're all in this together though, just 2 weeks to flatten the curve, stay home save lives, stop the spread, trust the science, war is peace, freedom is slavery, ignorance is strength, etc…

          Are your nightclubs open?

          Not just open but packed. I was in Northbridge (one of our main clubbing districts; although it is Perth so lower your expectations a bit) on Halloween last year when there was a Halloween rave going on in this square and I had never seen it that packed in the last 10 years. Everyone out in full costumes, people absolutely smashed and stumbling around the streets, drunken shouting and yelling, maybe even a shanking or two taking place; just beautiful.

          It was like a scene from the halcyon days of 2019… people everywhere, living their lives and enjoying themselves freely…

          … meanwhile in Melbourne: "Oi MOITE, u gotta LOICENCE to be 5.1km away from YOUR HOME??? Get under my boot NOW!"

          … meanwhile in America at a Walmart: "pUt On yOuR mAsK yOu f##kInG sCieNcE-deNyInG, GrAnDmA-KiLlinG naZi, eVeRyOnE kILL tHe COVID-sKePtIC aNd dRiNk tHeIR bLo0o0oD!1!1!! FoR tHe CAuSEeEEEE!!!"

          That's why it was so surreal watching footage from Melbourne, the US, the UK, et al last year with life in Perth being back to normal effectively in April-May.

          It really does crystallise just how insane the world has become in a way that I don't believe people living in lockdown-restricted areas can appreciate.

          You all do look absolutely and utterly mad from where I'm standing; a bunch of Branch Covidian cultists tripping over themselves to out-virtue signal each other as to how much they're literally saving the planet by sanitising their hands and wearing their masks in public; meanwhile Big Daddy Gub'mint says cases keep climbing, lockdowns keep getting extended and fun, happiness, joy and dignity will be outlawed for the foreseeable future to a roar of applause from said Branch Covidians.

          Utter madness. WA should not be a shining beacon of anything other than iron ore and minerals yet somehow we've become a time capsule of normality for the rest of Australia and the world.

          Gosh I miss going to a nightclub, an underground rave, or even an EDM music festival.

          Yeah it's amazing what we take for granted and how easily we can be deprived of it.

          Benjamin Franklin something something, those who would trade liberty for security, something something, deserve neither, something.

          40 years of that self-congratulatory, muh "lucky country" mentality really lulled this nation into a deep slumber that nothing bad could ever happen here and life would forever remain a blur of barbecues, beaches and drunkenness for the rest of our lives.

          • stewy on 14/01/2021 - 23:17

            @Gnostikos:

            Benjamin Franklin something something, those who would trade liberty for security, something something, deserve neither, something.

            Surely you aren't trying to suggest WA hasn't given up a lot of liberty.

            WA has one of the most ridiculous border restrictions around. Whilst you may not wish to travel, WA is still taking that liberty away from everyone.

            • Gnostikos on 15/01/2021 - 01:08
              +3

              @stewy:

              Surely you aren't trying to suggest WA hasn't given up a lot of liberty.

              I'm saying every country/state has given up their liberty at this point (well, much earlier in fact); it's just a question of when the illusion of liberty will be pulled out from under them.

              WA has one of the most ridiculous border restrictions around.

              Given the entirely fraudulent nature of this "pandemic", with cases literally materialising out of thin air with no explanation or plausible chain of custody in many locales around the world, perhaps the only defence any supposedly sovereign entity has against being suddenly selected to experience another mysterious outbreak of unknown origin and thus be threatened with the lockdown genie is to deny or heavily control all possible movement into their jurisdiction.

              That significantly makes any attempt at attributing the source of an outbreak to contrived examples like "selfish, super spreaders travelling 300 kilometres for a Big Mac", "rogue Domino's pizza delivery drivers" or "crazy conspiracy theorist Karens deliberately coughing on people" far more incredulous and difficult to swallow, even for the most die-hard brainlets out there.

              If everyone coming into WA requires approval/an exemption, has to undergo testing, is forced to quarantine and closely monitored for that period, the likelihood of the state actually succumbing to a Melbourne-style fiasco of COVID whack-a-mole for months on end while being locked down harder than any other place on Earth is significantly reduced.

              With the current border restrictions, it would require a systematic failure across multiple branches of the state government, law enforcement and other entities in order for a huge outbreak with community transmission to occur in a state like WA that has had zero community transmission for close to a year now. In other words, it would be rather obvious if some convenient lapse in hotel quarantine security, ala Melbourne, led to a massive wave of COVID in WA when our "system" has performed to a standard well above all other states in the country for nearly a year.

              In principle, you're correct that such an imposition on the people of WA is a loss, however as of the crowning of peak-clown-upside-down world in 2020, principles, consistency, logic and cause-and-effect have very little bearing on how things unfold in this reality and I would argue that staving off what happened to Melbourne in 2020 is actually a worthwhile trade for not being able to travel interstate. The damage caused by that lockdown to the people of Melbourne, economically, socially, psychologically, culturally and politically is far, far worse than the consequences of the strict border controls WA has.

              A bunker mentality honestly isn't a bad attitude to have in a time like this where it seems anything and everything can happen, no one can be trusted and it really is every man for himself (despite constant reassurances from government employees, big multinationals, celebrities and the mega-rich that we are all in this together).

              Whilst you may not wish to travel, WA is still taking that liberty away from everyone.

              Most people in WA don't travel interstate, in fact I would wager more people in WA travel overseas than interstate.

              More to the point, what good is interstate travel when you still need the blessing of the DHA to leave the country? No matter where you travel in Australia you are still subject to the overarching authority of the Federal government that can exert massive pressure on states to do absolutely anything they want, if the sh*t really hits the fan.

              Both measures by the way contravene the Australian constitution; so it's not like there's a moral high ground to defend here by saying "Well, at least I can travel interstate even though I can't leave this penal colony." Every Australian is having their rights usurped and subverted despite how regional idiosyncrasies may differ.

              I don't recall any notable convicts in Australian history remarking, "Yes, I've been condemned by the crown to live out the rest of my days on a prison island for trivial offences, but hey, look at all the leg room, this is going to be a 5-star life sentence!"

              I honestly could not care about travelling to Melbourne, Sydney, Brisbane, Adelaide, et al. They're just yet another Australian metropolis like the current one I'm in, populated by the same people living the same lifestyles with largely the same ideas.

              If I want to travel, it's because I want to see something different; not the same thing just with some different scenery. The bigger loss to yourself and every Australian I would argue is not being able to leave the country freely and experience the rest of the world.

          • netjock on 15/01/2021 - 15:44
            -3

            @Gnostikos:

            You all do look absolutely and utterly mad from where I'm standing; a bunch of Branch Covidian cultists tripping over themselves to out-virtue signal each other as to how much they're literally saving the planet by sanitising their hands and wearing their masks in public; meanwhile Big Daddy Gub'mint says cases keep climbing, lockdowns keep getting extended and fun, happiness, joy and dignity will be outlawed for the foreseeable future to a roar of applause from said Branch Covidians.

            Sounds like someone who enjoys in living in their own bubble. It is like hunger and famine doesn't exist if there is food on the shelves of the local supermarket.

      • stewy on 14/01/2021 - 23:15
        +1

        In WA we haven't had a "pandemic", period. I don't think many people in VIC/NSW/QLD realise how uninterrupted normal living has been in this state

        North Queensland has been pretty much the same.

        Even at the start of the outbreak, next to no one up here wore masks and everyone went about their normal business with the Police providing minimal enforcement of the Qld Govt's restrictions.

        There'd be plenty of regional NSW and QLD that is similar.

    • netjock on 14/01/2021 - 16:44

      Masks are not normal, so why would you want to normalise this?

      COVID19 isn't normal and why do we want to normalise this? By not wearing a mask? It is normalised in the US, UK and Western Europe? Maybe you want to move there, freedom of choice but just a suggestion.

      In WA we haven't had a community case for 10 months, why on earth would we all be wearing masks this whole time

      What about SA and QLD? They had nothing then boom, all blew up. Cherry picking examples? COVID19 doesn't come with warnings like lights and sirens. Only the ambulance that takes you to hospital has that.

      • trapper on 14/01/2021 - 17:01

        What about SA and QLD? They had nothing then boom, all blew up.

        It could happen here too, then there would be a reason to wear masks and stay at home for a couple weeks.

        But then when it's been nipped in the bud, back to normal and no more need for masks again… it's not rocket science.

      • mdavant on 14/01/2021 - 20:15

        Haha "blew up" in qld.

        Handled perfectly without masks.

        • netjock on 14/01/2021 - 22:01

          Handled perfectly without masks.

          I don't know who is paying you but you should be fired, face masks required per Queensland government website

          Under face masks

          If you are in an impacted area or have been in an impacted area at any time since 7am AEST 2 January 2021 you must carry a face mask with you at all times. You must wear a face mask when you are in certain public indoor spaces.

          • mdavant on 15/01/2021 - 06:12
            +1

            @netjock: Blew up. Not yet surely.

            How many cases? How many cases per day in Brisbane?

            Wearing a mask in certain places and not others?

            There were no masks in NSW for previous covid outbreaks and it was handled fine.

            Why are people in the Moreton area wearing masks?

            Why aren't people in Bundaberg wearing masks or Cooktown?

            • netjock on 15/01/2021 - 11:25

              @mdavant:

              Handled perfectly without masks.

              Untrue. Simple.

              Like I consistently say. It isn't like the virus arrives with hi vis, flashing lights and sirens. You are just fooling yourself into thinking you are safe. That is what Trump said about banning flights from China would solve the problem when the virus got in back door from Europe.

  • petry on 14/01/2021 - 13:03

    way to many QAnon supporters using this mask discussion

  • Daabido on 14/01/2021 - 13:31

    Hello OP. Do you generally like poking hornets' nests? The greatest influencers of behaviour are siblings, followed by parents and extended family, then probably school, then random adults in the community.

  • Raj09 on 14/01/2021 - 13:58
    +1

    I wear my mask anyway. There's no superiority in it. Only health hygiene

  • brodof on 14/01/2021 - 14:05
    +2

    I'm curious… Will you wear a mask for the rest of your life? Are you afraid of the possibility of other contagions or just this one?

    • CheeryCheapskate on 14/01/2021 - 14:28

      I'd wear one for the common cold, other diseases but in areas where I can't social distance well e.g. public transports. Other time I'd wear one for pollutions such as traffic, smokers and disasters/fires/smog (but I'm asthmatic). But I'm talking about higher risk situations so I wouldn't wear one if I'm hiking in the park or having a party with friends (post Covid). I'd also wear a mask if I'm sick since I don't want to pass it to anyone else. Likewise if I'm tending to someone who's sick, I'd mask up. A lot of Asian countries did this before Covid such as China and Japan and it was a lot due to hygiene reasons.

    • netjock on 14/01/2021 - 16:46
      -1

      Will you wear a mask for the rest of your life?

      Many of us already do. Mask of affluence, it is also a disease spread by social media.

    • [Deactivated] on 14/01/2021 - 21:07
      +1

      I am considering it because I have always been a ninja by heart.

    • [Deactivated] on 14/01/2021 - 23:43

      With the increasing likelihood and heightened risk of communicable (infectious) diseases/flu being a recurring event, I'd consider wearing a mask more frequently. I'm also moving towards middle age and my immune system ain't what it used to be.

      Never wore a mask pre-pandemic. But this event might be a forecast for recurring events of the same nature.

      Are you afraid of the possibility of other contagions

      Yes.

      I also didn't catch a seasonal cold/flu this year!

  • kaleidoscope on 14/01/2021 - 15:47

    i wear a mask when necessary and a proper one which shows it’s intended purpose. (not the kind which has become a fashionable wear)

  • KozieSeller on 14/01/2021 - 17:31

    And they're allowing covidiots in with the UK Virus Strain.. where they don't yet enforce wearing masks in UK!

    • petry on 15/01/2021 - 00:49

      and the south african strain and the american strain and…..

    • netjock on 15/01/2021 - 11:30

      And they're allowing covidiots Australian permanent residents and citizens in with the UK Virus Strain

      I appreciate your politeness in not making it obvious but just to clear it up who these covidiots really are.

      Then there are the ones who are moaning about how they can't leave the country.

  • whooah1979 on 14/01/2021 - 18:01
    +1

    This is great news for VIC. 👍 job.
    https://www.9news.com.au/national/coronavirus-victoria-updat…

    Mask wearing eased, return to work given green light in Victoria

    Also from Monday, mask wearing will revert back to the earlier Christmas mandates, where they are only compulsory in high-risk settings indoors such as supermarkets, shopping centres, hospitals, domestic flights, Ubers or taxis and public transport

    • mdavant on 14/01/2021 - 20:16
      +1

      Omg omg. Victorians are so damn crazy brave

      I can't believe they will not wear masks, they might spontaneously explode.

      • netjock on 15/01/2021 - 11:28

        English not your first language is it? Or you have attention span shorter than a gold fish?

        compulsory in high-risk settings indoors such as supermarkets, shopping centres, hospitals, domestic flights, Ubers or taxis and public transport

  • Gazzgrewal on 14/01/2021 - 18:10
    +1

    I’m quite amazed why Asian community here in Melbourne always wore a face mask even when there was no covid. I always wondered coz that looked strange tbh. They were already following a practice before the covid 😷

    • MementoMori on 15/01/2021 - 16:34

      It's a cultural thing to protect from pollution

  • [Deactivated] on 14/01/2021 - 21:06
    +4

    Wearing a mask is a tiny sacrifice that I am absolutely willing to make inorder to avoid all the problems I am seeing happening in USA, UK and other countries that are suffering. I trust the health department and the police working to keep the community's health and safety in stopping all the un/misinformed rebels from ruining it for everybody :-)

    • MementoMori on 15/01/2021 - 16:35
      +3

      I support your freedom to believe everything the government and media says, please respect my right not to

  • ialam99 on 14/01/2021 - 21:45
    +1

    I was recently at the gold coast and i was initially wearing a mark everywhere (more from habit as im from victoria). I found people just looked at you funny as you have covid or something so i soon stopped to avoid all the negative looks.

    • morse on 14/01/2021 - 22:39

      This is so true - despite the weird glances it’s great for keeping people 1.5m or more away. We’ve become complacent on the Gold Coast, I really hope we manage to make it through without a major outbreak, we have many vulnerable people, particularly elderly.

  • horsome on 14/01/2021 - 23:10
    +2

    Not necessary - follow government mandatory protocols, they are there for a reason.

    No need to police the community when you have no authority to, get on with your life.

  • lint on 15/01/2021 - 10:33

    It's fruitless, the majority of people here will only wear a mask when mandated by government.

    The NSW government had been saying for months that masks were strongly recommended on public transport while refusing to mandate it. From my own observations, the rate of mask wearing on public transport varied anywhere from near 0% to 10% during that time. I even witnessed one old lady put on a mask only as she was preparing to alight from a train which was absolutely hilarious.

    Then the government mandate came in and, BAM, you've got 95%+ compliance. People won't do it unless they're forced to.

    • whooah1979 on 15/01/2021 - 10:45

      One could get 5 to 8 crayfish with $200.

    • petry on 15/01/2021 - 14:40

      Gladys happy to see spread, its a fact, doesn't even follow her own guidelines….standard sad pathetic liberal pollie

      • netjock on 15/01/2021 - 15:53

        Save yourself. Rich politicians and their rich mates can afford private or get priority health care.

        • petry on 15/01/2021 - 16:59

          made harder by the callous indifference and vassal agendas of nasty self serving pollies..

        • shoppingbag on 20/01/2021 - 01:31

          There are reason why you see lots of politician/expert around the world not following their own policy. Eg, Recording were made where after their announcement of mask mandate & etc, they remove their mask when they thought the camera was turn off.

          Logically it means what they want us to believe as the truth isn’t true. Would they risk their live and those they love if what they told us was factual or the whole truth?

          If politicians and experts aren’t following it, we should be asking what aren’t they telling us. But that won’t happen in Australia, especially those who was raised here. With no land neighbour to compare different truth that we were brought up with, it hard to escape dogma.

          • netjock on 20/01/2021 - 09:59

            @shoppingbag:

            Rich politicians and their rich mates can afford private or get priority health care

            You can go without a mask if you are confident in your access to health care.

            Trump gets flown to a hospital just for him in his own helicopter. Question for you is whether you are confident you have access to a bed and medical team when you need it.

            Politicians: you do as they say you are stuffed, you do as they do you are stuffed. I wouldn't look at politicians and make any decisions on the basis of what they do.

            • shoppingbag on 20/01/2021 - 10:41

              @netjock: Our maybe, you do as they say and you are stuffed, you discover what they don’t say and you might live?

              Edit: not confident in politicians desired health care for us. Confident in informed health care. People are placing the brain trust upon politicians and then bitch about them for their two system approaches instead of taking the responsibility of education & action upon themselves.

    • ozbargainer666 on 16/01/2021 - 08:26
      +4

      Why would i want to cover my face up unless i'm forced to? You people really are bootlickers

      • shoppingbag on 20/01/2021 - 01:46

        Please use strawberry flavour shoe polish next time. The one you used yesterday was awful. Yuck…

        To each their own. I too don’t want to wear mask. It just that I hate it when mask are place on babies. I understand parent wanting to protect their child, but they need to look into the harm before forcing it upon their young child.

        • netjock on 20/01/2021 - 10:00

          I understand parent wanting to protect their child, but they need to look into the harm before forcing it upon their young child.

          Parents have a knee jerk reaction. That is why there is $40 baby powder and $17 baby powder at Colesworths. They have a guilt that if their kid falls over and gets a scratch it is because they didn't buy the $40 baby powder.

          • shoppingbag on 20/01/2021 - 11:00

            @netjock: Is there any harm to the child if they used the higher cost baby powder? Don’t know much about the difference between baby powder myself so would like to learn and it not an attack upon you. If they are the same, then I learn something new.

            • netjock on 20/01/2021 - 13:03
              -1

              @shoppingbag:

              Is there any harm to the child if they used the higher cost baby powder?

              Is there any benefit? Third world countries seems to have 7 children okay without $40 a tin milk powder.

              I'd suggest you have a look at A2 baby powder vs regular brand like Nestle.

              • shoppingbag on 20/01/2021 - 13:18

                @netjock: I assume there was harm since you brought it up. If there is no harm, I am not seeing it relevant to the conversation. Then it just people with too much money.

                Edit: oh.. you are talking about baby formula / baby milk powder, and not baby powder.

              • brendanm on 20/01/2021 - 18:51

                @netjock:

                Third world countries seems to have 7 children okay

                Is that a joke?

                • netjock on 20/01/2021 - 19:09

                  @brendanm: 7 was a joke.

                  It is more like 6

                  • brendanm on 20/01/2021 - 20:08
                    +2

                    @netjock: https://knoema.com/atlas/Somalia/Child-mortality-rate#:~:tex….

                    Yep, they are really kicking some goals there.

                    https://www.unicef.org/somalia/nutrition#:~:text=Malnutritio….

                    Wow, excellent, the ones that don't die are malnourished.

                    They should definitely be having 6 children each in a country with extremely limited resources, what a fantastic idea. A high birthrate in a country that can't even provide for the population it has currently, what could go wrong?

                    • netjock on 20/01/2021 - 20:38

                      @brendanm:

                      Yep, they are really kicking some goals there.

                      No you are.

                      You seem to like to get your boots into everything. Hope you have a great lifetime because talking is just as effective spreading COVID19 as coughing

                      • brendanm on 20/01/2021 - 21:08
                        +2

                        @netjock:

                        No you are.

                        Oh, do you think it's good that more than 10% of children there die before they are 5? Or that those that survive live in abhorrent conditions? They should definitely continue to pump out those kids, such a great idea.

                        You seem to like to get your boots into everything

                        Irony?

                        because talking is just as effective spreading COVID19 as coughing

                        Yes, I'd be completely worried about that, I'll just have to go on a pilgrimage to try to find anyone in Australia that actually has it.

  • Kranbone on 15/01/2021 - 18:35

    I'm wearing a mask now so that hopefully, I don't need to wear it forever.

    My biggest gripe isn't people who don't wear masks, it's people with poor hygiene etiquette in public.

  • Tiredman on 15/01/2021 - 20:11

    Why not, just a mask FFS. I like how most people in Melbourne wears them.

  • DASHCAM NOW DUDE on 15/01/2021 - 23:22
    -1

    I'm going to start wearing a mask during Winter even after Covid ends. Getting the old flu is a pain in the arse.

    • rogerm22 on 18/01/2021 - 11:51
      +2

      The purpose of wearing a mask is to stop you spreading disease to others, not to stop you getting it. There's no point wearing one unless you have the flu.

      • DASHCAM NOW DUDE on 18/01/2021 - 12:12
        +1

        Thanks rogerm22.

        I'm going to start wearing a mask during Winter even after Covid ends. Getting Spreading the old flu is a pain in the arse.

      • netjock on 20/01/2021 - 10:03

        There's no point wearing one unless you have the flu

        If the ones with flu aren't wearing it then wearing a mask is the next best thing.

        You will find that it work both ways, just not quite as effective as the person with the flu wearing it. Person with flu wears it, cuts down transmission by a lot. The number of masks required for the close contact of person with flu = lot of masks.

      • Ughhh on 24/01/2021 - 10:37

        There's no point wearing one unless you have the flu.

        You can be contagious before showing any symptoms btw.

  • Jaysful on 16/01/2021 - 00:16
    -4

    I really don't get people hating on mask? I think normalising it would have quite a few benefits.

    • helps with hay fever
    • woke up late so they didn't have full make-up on for work
    • feel more covered/protected (winter)
    • feeling ill and don't want to spread it
    • privacy for certain people
    • hygienic for people working with food
    • new style of fashion trend (creates jobs, new product)
    • useful when bush fire smoke moves into the city

    I have worn face mask for many of the above reasons before the pandemic. I feel like people were always starring and I was a bit disappointed that it's not normalised here (after using it overseas). I miss seeing restaurant staff wearing mouth shield so their spit don't fly everywhere when they're talking over the food they're serving (common in Asia). Hygiene is pretty good for society I reckon.

    • ozbargainer666 on 16/01/2021 - 08:28
      +2

      becoming faceless NPCs is good for society?

      • whooah1979 on 16/01/2021 - 10:43
        -1

        The correct term is herd, hive, collective, Zergs or Borgs.

      • Jaysful on 22/01/2021 - 09:54

        I think you didn't read the above. It has potential health and hygiene reasons? What's that got to do with r/outside

        • shoppingbag on 22/01/2021 - 12:18
          +1

          There are serious known health harm too that has in some case lead to death. No, I am not only talking about suffocating. Please learn more about mask instead of just compiling what you think is beneficial about them. It troublesome to hunt it down due to censorship and doctor/dentist/specialist are discouraged from speaking out of it.

          Sure lot of people don’t think it normal or just despise mask. Mask has it uses, but the way we are told to used will lead to more harm.

          Edit: the risk vs reward of mask in my view make it a really bad option for covid 19 vs other that is being censored/banned.

          • Ughhh on 22/01/2021 - 20:19

            @shoppingbag:

            There are serious known health harm too that has in some case lead to death. No, I am not only talking about suffocating

            Those that have legitimate medical reasons are already exempt from wearing mask.

            If Covid was going around like the US, I would assume Covid would make breathing even more difficult than just wearing a mask.

  • Brendoo on 16/01/2021 - 01:28
    +1

    I am ok to wear a mask where it is not mandatory, but only if I am at risk (even low risk) or people around me are at risk. If I'm not within a few metres of people when I'm outside I wouldn't wear a mask. Masks are very uncomfortable, especially in this hot, humid weather, so I would not make myself uncomfortable if there is no risk to myself or anyone else.

    I was wearing masks in shopping centres, shops and anywhere there were people close by well before it became mandatory. But if i am walking in the street or park and there is hardly anyone around, I don't wear one. I do keep a mask in my pocket or bag all the time, just in case.

    • mlcn on 18/01/2021 - 13:41
      +1

      Mask is to protect others, not you. Both my grand mothers overseas got covid when wearing masks. Both have recovered, fortunately.
      If you are feeling sick - stay home - that's simple. Who would disagree, that staying home is less effective in preventing disease spread, than wearing a mask? :)

      • shoppingbag on 18/01/2021 - 15:45
        +1

        Good to hear that they recover.

        Hope they are taking vitamin D & zinc along with drinking green tea ( it contain EGCG) or something similar as reduce further risk from covid 19.

        And yes, staying home when sick is vastly more effective then mask imo.

        • SlavOz on 20/01/2021 - 18:59
          +2

          And yes, staying home when sick is vastly more effective then mask imo.

          So why not just tell everyone who is at risk, or scared of getting sick, to stay at home?

          • shoppingbag on 21/01/2021 - 00:16
            +3

            @SlavOz: Because of the so called research that used computer modelling to concluded that asymptotic spreader could drive the pandemic, that has never been known to be true. Then there is the idea that there could be asymptotic super spreader, again not base on any evidence in reality. Next is the pre-symptomatic which could spread, but it has never been a case of it being the driving force of a epidemic. They and their love of computer modelling used to conclude desired facts so they can claim it base on science.

            As for mask, the science is even more shocking. A few paper were release which basically referring antidotal situations, thus concluding mask might work and thus we need to implement mandatory mask nation wide to confirm if it work.
            It has been known that n95 mask in hospital show limited impact, while in community situations there is almost zero impact. So recent studies were done in hospital environment to prove that mask work.
            Then let not forget the one where they show infection rate decrease after mandatory mask was implemented. Interesting they never compare such graph to place that never had mandatory mask, else they would find it produce nearly identical curve again and again.
            While they ignore control trial with over 6000 participants and those using marine that show mask simply doesn’t work. Would it shock you to know that major medical journals refused to published paper that show mask doesn’t work?
            A fun link to read;

            https://aapsonline.org/expert-is-a-four-letter-word/

            Here health care worker are continually being retrain on the importance of mask and good protocol. They never were told of better alternative that has proven to work in hundreds of trials. Wonder why.

            Maybe you will read about my death in the paper tomorrow because of what I say.

            Edit: the whole pandemic could be over in weeks without the experimental vaccine and zero death if the power to be would only allow it.

            Edit: those talking about mask and Asia and thus conclude it work. Please realise that correlation doesn’t mean causality. For all we know, it the high number of green tea drinker that affect the zinc in their food.

  • shortgum on 19/01/2021 - 02:37

    Someone pls tell me what is 'Karen' mean ?

    • AustriaBargain on 19/01/2021 - 02:41

      A Karen is an impossible woman. Your training manual may refer to Karens as "difficult people".

    • whitelie on 19/01/2021 - 02:51

      When in doubt, consult the dictionary

    • brendanm on 20/01/2021 - 18:53
      +1

      A derogatory term that people use to attempt to make people comply with whatever they are pushing.

      "Don't be a Karen mate, wear a mask".

      "I saw a covidiot in Coles today, didn't have a mask on".

  • Willco88 on 20/01/2021 - 02:05

    Never worn a mask once

    • AustriaBargain on 20/01/2021 - 02:06

      In a sense one's tough guy anti conformist attitude can be the biggest mask of all..

      • SlavOz on 20/01/2021 - 18:57
        +2

        In another sense, face masks stop the spread of much more than just germs.

        They stop the spread of the most scariest thing of all - individualism and free expression.

        • AustriaBargain on 20/01/2021 - 19:22

          Yes, the scariest thing of all is the world not being able to see your beautiful face. You could start hitting the gym so your body looks just as good as your face?

  • SlavOz on 20/01/2021 - 18:55
    +2

    Encouraging kids to wear a mask is not as important as encouraging kids to question the media/government and dare to think for themselves.

    I think it's important for kids to see another side of the carefully hand-crafted story in the news.

    By the attitude of most Australians today, it seems like this is something our country has been lacking for a long time. Nothing should be above questioning or scepticism, especially when it comes to an institution like the government that has made a reputation for lying, stealing, and being wrong on so many levels in the past

    A few decades ago, OP would've been thinking "hmm should I teach my kids to hate Aboriginals? The government clearly thinks they're inferior so I should probably set a good example!"

    • netjock on 20/01/2021 - 19:14

      important as encouraging kids to question the media/government and dare to think for themselves

      Government already got them brain washed with useless stuff like cat videos on youtube, tiktok and instagram. If they can get onto it them might pay up for a odd FBA training to try to strike it rich.

      • shoppingbag on 21/01/2021 - 00:44
        +2

        Government done there job through our education system. Remember in primary school with weekly singing the national anthem and visit of police officer to educate us and etc.

        Media is the elitist group. Those who own the majority of corporate media (aka mainstream media), our entertainment industry and many others things that ensure we could remain alive.

    • Ughhh on 21/01/2021 - 13:19
      -1

      Nice try trying to brainwash people here.

      • shoppingbag on 21/01/2021 - 16:23
        +1

        Let see what the definition of brainwash;

        https://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/dictionary/english/brain…

        to make someone believe something by repeatedly telling him or her that it is true and preventing any other information from reaching him or her

        So, if people is encouraged to question gov/media narrative, it doesn’t qualify as brainwashing.

        If we are constantly feed a narrative as “truth”, censorship of alternative narrative and got told not to listen to alternative view because it would lead us to more conspiracy theory, it not brainwashing?

        I am confused by you statement.

        Edit: I should clarify that narrative could be true or false. And base on the definition of brainwashing, it could be used to implant factual information.

        • SlavOz on 21/01/2021 - 17:13
          +4

          If there's any upside to COVID it's that people have revealed their true power- hungry nature instead of hiding it out of social or political nobility.

          We all used to pretend that we valued diversity, independent expression, exchange of ideas, free speech etc. Those who didn't like these concepts had to be very careful with how they worded their criticism.

          COVID has now made it acceptable to outright hate and denounce these things. You don't have to pretend to value truth, learning, or individual opinions anymore. We've given everyone a free pass to just say "anything that disagrees with me or the government should be illegal!" and still be taken seriously.

          It's both funny and worrying. Most man-made genocides or dictatorships happened because people had no idea what was happening among them. There were no history books or warning signs like today. Those who took part were literally conned into doing so. Now, we've moved to a new level of dictatorship formation. People know full well what is happening and they're proudly supporting and celebrating it.

          • Ughhh on 22/01/2021 - 20:24
            -1

            @SlavOz: Thank you for your great work at spreading the masters words. You will be rewarded and promoted very soon, they are very proud of you and your loyalty.

        • Ughhh on 22/01/2021 - 20:21
          -1

          to make someone believe something by repeatedly telling him or her that it is true and preventing any other information from reaching him or her

          Look at how many post and comments SlavOz has made. Correct, he hasn't prevent any other info from reaching others, but neither has the Gov, we're not in China where everything is censored…

          • SlavOz on 23/01/2021 - 09:29
            +1

            @Ughhh: We are pretty close to information censorship here. Facebook and Twitter have us clamped down pretty tight. And contrary to most claims, they're not really a private business in that they work very closely with the government (especially the DNC in America) in exchange for legal immunity for all their tax evasion and illegal content that gets posted.

            Just look at what's happening to Assange. Then you've got our government raiding ABC headquarters or trying to force Google to keep showing us local news in search results so we don't get exposed to all those dangerous free-thinking ideas from other countries.

            We are just oppressive as China, especially in the age of COVID. The only difference is that we signed an agreement to pretend that we're not oppressive.

            • Ughhh on 23/01/2021 - 09:36

              @SlavOz:

              We are just oppressive as China, especially in the age of COVID

              LOL. And you've been to China ey? Some may find your statement ignorant and insulting.

              • SlavOz on 23/01/2021 - 09:43
                +1

                @Ughhh: I have been to China, but that's not the point. People used to be shocked when they heard that Facebook and Google weren't available in China because the government didn't want their citizens to see free information.

                I don't see how our government working closely with Facebook and Google to determine what we do and don't see is any different. Google is already massively clamped down compared to a few years ago. You used to be able to search for results using keywords, now the algorithm will show you blatantly one-sided content that you don't even ask for.

                Try searching for statistics on economic growth during the Trump presidency and you'll see what I mean. Also, go into Google images and type in "white American family".

                You're welcome.

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