A phone with mid range specs but Flagship build quality and 5G. Multiple colours available. for someone who prefers non Samsung phone Android.
LG Velvet 5G 128GB $658 + $5 Delivery ($0 C&C) @ The Good Guys
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Never had any issues in the last few generations. Only downside to LG is lack of software updates.
Guessing you didn't have a G4?
Wife had a G4. It was on and off again
@Fobsessive: I had mine fixed under warranty, was so frustrating because i had the Nexus 5 before that and loved it and then smashed it in a car door :(
Haven't gone back to LG sadly (for phones anyway)
or a Nexus 5X, had that fixed under warranty for bootloop in 2017 after 1 year of use but works fine ever since
I had the G3, G4, V20, V30.
Yes the G4 did suffer the boot loop issue and was fixed under warranty.
@mrderrickc: I purchased from T-Dimension back then and learnt the hard way about the risk of getting a grey import.
I just had an update for my V30+ last week. It had been a while since the last one, though.
TIL
My lg v20 is still going. No longer getting updates for a while though.
lineageos is a good option for updating your phone if it's no longer getting updates :)
Pretty much as good as Samsung, often even better.
Good hardware, meh software. If any bugs appear after the first year, it probably won't ever get fixed. My v50 needs a restart once a few days, and needs to restart some app once a while, otherwise slows down to a crawl. The navigation gesture keeps reverting back to base Android buttons every 2 days. None are deal breakers, but combined, they become almost a daily annoyance.
Still, dual screen is nice enough for me to bear with it
I'm happy with my g8s. Behaves well, photos fine, headphone jack, etc. Will do til Microsoft decide to release a surface duo designed to be a phone.
Life's Great (LG)
LG (Looks Good) makes good phones. This is quite a good one
Current LG v50 doesn't ring And goes straight to message bank even if I have full bars. Prob 30% it will ring atm
I have the same with Nexus 5x which was made by LG
I had the same issue, turned off VOLTE and started working again.
Not by choice, I've owned G2,g3,g4,g6,g7. G6 bricked for no reason. Others still work except for smashed screens.
Each time, the Samsung was just way too much more for less.
Not as much bloat, but still some.
I've always wondered what my next will be, given the death of the G series.Updates are horrid. Don't bother.
Build quality is like the lottery.
Too much for this phone.
I had a V20 and then a G5. Both were great and didnt have any issues with either (just upgraded the V20 and G5 I broke).
I too had very little issue with my v20. Only replaced coz it was getting slow.
OP forgot to mention, could be a collectors item too. Love my V50:)
Collectors item? I better not throw out my G5, G6, V20. I broke my G4 after the boot loop/solder problems lol. Managed to use the hairdryer to get it to stay on long enough to backup.
Aaah, I remember the weekly hair dryer updates I had to apply to the old G4 :) Good times!
Could be but the v60 exists. So no.
Loved my LG phone until it got boot loop issue.
name checks out.
Same. LG hardware is good but the software can be it's downfall.
the boot loop issue is hardware
can either be hardware or software-related.
@bargainparker: In the case of LG G4 and nexus 5X, it was an acknowledged hardware issue. See : https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/LG_smartphone_bootloop_issue…
As the owner of a LG G4, which had only ever run LG's official Android, I experienced this issue first hand (sudden lock-up under normal Google maps usage, followed by a bootloop) and it was a hardware fault.
My LG G4 was bought from an overseas seller on eBay, and LG Australia were simply awful about it - refusing to help, saying it had to go back to Taiwan for warranty, yet their headquarters acknowledged it was LG's hardware fault.
I learned several things :
* only but mobiles from local bricks and mortar retailers, for 2 years of ACL warranty. (which this deal has)
* don't buy anything from LG - because they do not and did not recall products with a systematic hardware fault,. There was only a class action on the US which LG settled for us$450 per device, but being in Australia we got nothing.
* LG software updates were terrible - they literally stopped entirely just 15 months after initial release, and had some really annoying bugs that were never resolved (rubbish Bluetooth that usually failed to connect and would been helped by updating from 6.0 to 6.0.1 are just one example). No security updates beyond this either.
* LG said they would update the device to Android 7, then just simply never did.
* LG locked the bootloader, and never unlocked it, making installing custom roms initially impossible and then later very difficult & painful (when some smart devs found a way to get around it when the device many years old, but it was not straightforward to do), and ignored all user requests and petitions to unlock the device, even after they stopped providing software updates. (Usually LG make the European versions unlockable, but outside that you're out of luck)I was so annoyed by LG's awful and consumer-hostile behaviour that I resolved to never buy another LG product, and I haven't since.
@nickj: I understand what you are talking about. This was more broadly speaking not specifically about LG issues. There are people in a boot loop state where they will blame everything else, but themselves.
@nickj: I completely agree with you.
Even support on locally acquired products were very poor.
I will not touch a LG product again.
On the other hand Samsung was outstanding to support an out of warranty phone.@Wiser: The LG G4 bootloop was a joke for me too, but my LG v30+ has been a good performer, with a software update released just last week. I too bought it from a seller in Australia, but it originated in Canada so LG wouldn't touch it.
Had the same problem when my Samsung Galaxy s8 purchased in Australia, but originating from the U.S. developed a screen issue Samsung didn't want to know about it, even though it was within warranty period. They said I had to post it to Samsung in the USA to get looked at. Not worth it.
I will NEVER buy another phone from overseas without an Australian warranty. Twice burned now.
How this compare to V50+?
Why would one pick this over the Pixel 4a 5g (regularly on special below this price)?
Build quality
ip68 rating and wireless charging. It's meant to compete with Pixel 5 range.
I have 4a 5g.. Don't bother unless getting the latest software is important to you and a mid range is all you need. It's at best a very average phone… I moved to it from Note8 and instantly you know it's nowhere near a flagship… It doesn't try to be but the difference is quite big… First and probably last pixel I'll own.
Also Note that LG will likely sell off their phone business soon…
4a isn't a like for like phone. One is using a sub 6 inch screen for a start while this is using an almost 7 inch display. Also this offers features many other phones don't such as the dual screen case. If I was looking for such a feature than my alternatives would be limited to a few models but at this price point it even becomes a smaller number of options.
Looks like a decent phone for the price - though personally I would still consider the Pixel 4a 5G over this, but if you want the larger screen size the hardware looks solid for the price.
However I would be concerend by the future updates to the phone - LG doesn't have the best track record for supporting their devices, and it doesn't help that they are looking to sell off their mobile phone division.
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It's the group that bought out the Holden engineering team and its Lang Lang Proving Ground.
People above bashing the 4a 5G :-) it's a great phone and I'd pick it over this LG any day. The 4a 5G isn't trying to be a flag ship phone but it still does a great job and has amazing pics for the price.
Mixed feelings about updates. G7, got the recent update. It's the 2nd major update since I bought.
Each major update, google removes some feature I used. Makes the phone less useful w/o root, and I can't root because Square reader won't support it.
Any automations with 3rd party apps, you lose something each update. It's annoying. It's like having an iphone.
I'm very happy with my LG V30+. When it dies, I'll get this.
Don't. I came from a v30 which I love, the velvet just isn't the same. Cameras aren't good for the high end price etc.
Yeah, but certainly the V30+ doesn't have camera worth writing home about. Mine's crap.
But it's a 5+ year old phone you buy for $300 now, you expect it to be outdated. The velvet was retailing for $800+
Really? It's a 48MP camera, in what way is it not good?
Edit: nevermind, I saw your comment below
Cameras are shocking for the price. Ok, maybe worded a bit harshly but they definitely let the phone down.
My s9+ still getting OTA updates most recently couple weeks ago and it's 4 years old.
My old LG G4 received 1 OTA and bootlooped after couple months. Never again LG.
If you bought one of the exploding Galaxy Note 7s would you be sworn off of Samsung too?
Big difference there is Samsung did a global recall & refund, whereas LG did nothing. Samsung did the right thing, LG did not.
S9+ is two years old. Samsung won't support devices older than two years, other than with security patches.
S10 and onwards get 3 OS upgrades.
Really? Bought a Note 10 shortly after release back in 2019 intending it to be a phone that I would keep using for a few years instead of switching phones every 1-2 years, so thats great news.
Galaxy S10 and Note 10 families: Started with Android 9 Pie, then received Android 10. Will receive Android 11 this year and then Android 12 in 2021.
Galaxy S20 and Note 20 families: Start with Android 10, will receive Android 11. Will eventually receive Android 12 and then Android 13 in 2022.
S9+ is from February 2018. Still receiving security patches & also got a massive update few months back which upgraded the One UI to 2.5 (Android 10) but it's not getting Android 11 that's for sure.
I'm on the fence with getting updates all the time.
My Samsung S5 went to shit after the latest update that happened a while ago.
Didn't Apple get in trouble for slowing old phones down via updates? I'll not putting Samsung not to do the same..
I bought mine 3 years a go, it was released around this time in 2018
My G4 boot-looped at 11 months, fixed under warranty…was a good phone otherwise but couldn’t wait 4 weeks without a work phone for the repair so had to buy another unit…went Samsung S and now note 9 which has been great(except the USB c port is dodgy) shame about the reliability of the G4.
Never again LG.Same here.. i really did like LG back then even got a V20 but was scared of the bootloop so got rid of it straight away.
My old S9 recently developed a dodgy USB C port too! Keeps saying moisture detected. It will only charge using the Samsung 45w charger now which I got for the S21
My G4 is also boot-looped, and the OLED screen burned with red colour around the screen.
But, every time when I saw the deal with LG phone, I ll keep buying that, like the last year's LG dual-screen one. And also this deal attracted me so much as well.
Back when the LG G4 was out Samsung was also poor for updates. The G4 did get two major Android version updates. And the S9+ isn't a 4 year old model… it isn't even 3 years since release. My note 9 has received only 2 major version updates too like the S9 series. Samsung have improved with updates in recent years, but only mainly in terms of security updates.
Answered my own question, No Quad DAC
You'll need to cross that bridge eventually, headphone jack AND decent DAC is a tall ask
I hate modern phone trends.
I really want to walk into TGG, pick one up in front of the store clerk and pull one of these:
Is this suitable for work?
Yes. SFW
Would strongly recommend I have one and it's an amazing phone. Very underrated.
Cannot agree more. Most underated phone in this price range. It's the most beautifully built phone that I've ever used. Only prob i have is the camera. But again thats not my priority.
what's wrong with the camera?
None of the three lenses take pictures you'd expect from this price point.
Cannot compare it to S20+ camera more comparable to A70.
When you say camera, do you mean it's not good vs this generation?
O do you mean it's bad compared to say a last gen phone like a G8?I came from Samsung flagship. Im comparing the quality to them. Its similar to A70
LG was doing good with the flat displays, but t seems like this one bucked the trend. Personally, not a fan
The v50 is curved too. I'm so mad at lg, it keeps registering inputs from the side and makes landscape usage annoying AF. Lg is supposed to be my last bastion of ergonomics.
Got this for $666 a while back during the black friday deals. Got the dual screen off an ebay seller from Korea. Awesome accessory - great for playing games. Retroarch supports the dual screen with touch controller on one screen and game on the other. Surprisingly good battery life - and easy to turn on/off for second screen if really want to maximize battery life.
S20 fe with latest processor is still arnd 800 n is still a better value. This one shd be arnd 500 mark along with oppos
For 5G? Not many 5G handsets for 500 clams.
If you're going to compare it to a Samsung with 5G for similar price, it would probably be an A42 and I'd take the LG.except its more expensive and built significantly worse. camera and screen are better but I would still choose the LG
Looks comparable to the Xiaomi Mi 8 Lite but more expensive. With Xiaomi I'm pretty sure you can always unlock the bootloader for future updates
It's not about spec sheet. Lg usually has much better builds, water proofing, audio, and such.
Xiaomi is way too cheap for the spec, but comparisons doesn't end with the processor.
Great phone. I've owned LG V20, V30+ (best smart phone I've owned) and now the Velvet.
The UI is pretty good - very little bloatware. Camera is okay but not great. A few software glitches but nothing major. Currently on Android 10 and I'm told I can expect Android 11 soon.
I find the wireless charging pretty slow and it's hit & miss with my two charging bases. But the battery life is pretty good - I can sometimes get to bed time with more than 50% remaining.
For <$700 it's a decent phone. (JB has it on sale currently for $699 too).
With 3.5mm headphone jack !
Don't know who in the LG management team still sticks to his wired headphones for mobile.It made perfect sense with the quad DAC. Not so much without one
Nice try, industry sockpuppets. You can pry my wired headphones out of my dead body.
Are you trying to sarcastic. Let's hope you are. :D
This is an odd deal. The features and hardware of the phone, aren't that great. However - add in a flashy video clip, and some good "build quality" - and suddenly people will buy it !!!
Wireless charging, good screen and build quality.
Had a g4, fantaatic phone and camera. Boot looped and replaced under warranty no iaauea till my aon amaahed the screen.
Have had 3 x v30+ for a couple of years now. No dramas at all. Great screen, camera is good with 3rd party software ans best sound around with DAC.
I sont understand all these updates people are concerned about. What are they updating? My phones still work flawlessly.
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What is the quality like these days with Lucky Goldstar (L.G.) handsets?