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Was browsing through all the deals for Dyson V11 Outsize and stumbled upon this on eBay.
15% off the original price of $1,097, final price of $932.45.
Best price I can find so far!
Dyson V11 Outsize Vacuum Cleaner $932.45 ($910.51 with eBay Plus) + $10 Delivery (Free C&C) @ The Good Guys eBay
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Samsung Jet 90 is the best in terms of quality, battery life and additional tools.
I'm no expert and I don't own either. But from just picking them both up in store the jet 90 just feels so much more premium and more well built. Might use better quality plastics? who knows.
There are some interesting comparison there for sure, not sure I would call it so black and white a decision.
I have neither and have never touched either.Samsung suction = 200AW
Dyson V11 Outsize - 220AWBattery life at full performance is less on Dyson, but again, it is sucking more.
Dyson has wider head, requiring less passes to clear an area, thus less time to do it.At lowest level, both seem to have the same run time.
If the Sammy works as it looks to empty the contents, then I am not a fan of the extra removal of the bin vs the push to empty.
Went to my local TGG and had a look at both. Ended up picking up Jet 90 and the guy there price matched the eBay plus offer. I found outsize a bit on the heavy side. Samsung's build quality is definitely better but warranty is only one year.
@harry2008: You can use your credit card's extended warranty or claim ACL as people would expect it to last few years at this price.
The Jet 90 bin is tiny. Also its a pain to empty. You have to take the bin off the vacuum, remove the top filter and then tip the contents out. Nothing beats the Dyson emptying mechanism. If you get the Samsung Jet automatic bin (which was free during a limited promo period) you connect a different bin (that is a fraction smaller than the default bin) and has a flap at the bottom that opens when you connect it to the bin. Dyson wins hands down if you dont get the automatic samsung bin. I checked and the bags are $5 each too! Such a rip off. The quality and build of the Samsung is better than the Dyson. Even the attachments seem a bit nicer with the Samsung. The charging stand is much better than the wall mount of the Dyson. Also the Samsung has a touch botton to turn on and off which is better than the trigger on the Dyson. The automatic mop heads that come with the jet are pretty useless too. The revolving heads turn pretty slow. I'd go the version with the hard floor brush.
I was actually a little disappointed with how crap it was to empty the bin on the Samsung. Thought they would have tried a similar mechanism to the Dyson. The automatic bin is a cool idea, but the costs of the bags will put me off using it in the end. The Samsung does feel more ergonomic. The outsize is a different vacuum though. Samsung more comparable to the normal V11.
Where are you getting the Samsung Jet 90 for 830?
Had a look its the same code ebay TGG - just grabbed it for 827.51 pickup. I’m out for lunch so can’t post right now, if someone wants to fo the duty :)
https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/NEW-Samsung-VS20R9046T3-Jet-90-C…
Thanks!
Can you or anyone confirm that this comes with the soft brush attachment for hardwood floors?
@vexrz: As per ebay post:
"What's In The Box: Jet 90 Complete Vacuum, Turbo Action Brush, Mini Motorised Brush, Combination Tool, ExtensionCrevice Tool, Flexible Tool, Z Station, Documentation"
@vexrz: Update - It does come with the Soft Brush Attachment (called and asked).
Edit: And I also just purchased it.
Can't find outsize on this site but this is a pretty good side by side
https://www.rtings.com/vacuum/tools/compare/dyson-v11-animal…Don't know anything about the Samsung Jet personally
I saw this and got the numbers confused. (thought Jet was dyson and swapped it around)
Hopefully outsize has better metrics!
Once you buy a cordless vacuum cleaner you’ll never go back to dragging a cord around and plugging in each room. No more frustrating cord snagging on furniture or just not long enough to finish the room without having to plug into a closer power socket.
I disagree. Cordless are good for quick cleans but nowhere near as powerful as a corded. Example, I just did a room with Cordless V10 and it picked up what seemed like a decent clean. I then went back over it with Corded vacuum. It picked up a awful lot more grime and fluff. Its what I expected as corded have a whole lot more grunt. Obviously this was on a Carpet.
For general floorboard or tiles would make no difference.I think its depends the power for the motor. The v11 prob can match with thr cord one
Not a chance…..sorry.
No offence to your observations. As pointed out earlier, on floorboards it could make almost no difference using a corded vacuum vs a cordless one but comparing the two on carpet is day and night.
The cordless will get rid of anything you can see visibly but the whole point of vacuuming carpet is that it captures a lot of dust you can't see and the corded vacuum does pick up a whole lot more!
Even if you account for inefficiencies in "crap design" compared to dyson et al or any other reason you could think of, the power difference between a 2000W vacuum and a handheld that outputs probably in the vicinity of 150W (they measure in air watts which is definitely not equivalent but you can be absolutely sure power consumption is significantly lower than this number), it's not something you can design away the difference. Having said that the performance in suction is not a linear relationship with power consumption so it may not be as substantial a difference as it appears in numbers.
A miele C3 has 350AW vs the dyson V11 in boost of 185AW.
This also doesn't take into account the efficiency of the filtration system. Vacuums with bags get a bad rap but IMHO the modern ones filter significantly more dust when they use the whole bag as essentially a giant filter.
@peter05: I excluded floorboards and noted it was carpet. Filtration = My corded on has filtration.
Anyhow. My original comment related to original OP saying that once one uses a Cordless, one never goes back to corded. I disagreed as I do once a month and use corded for deep cleaning carpets and also when I am doing the whole house which takes a couple of hours.@Borg: i was reaffirming your comments and replying to tinny bum but i chose to continue the thread from your comment rather than start a new child, sorry it wasn't more clear
@peter05: Sorry, yes I knew that (and even gave you a + Vote). I wrote my comment poorly as though disagreeing with you (which I wasn't). I got sidetracked on a call and forgot to return to adjust my comment. Thanks :-)
@peter05: to elaborate further on my own comments, even though manufacturers mostly draw a consensus that air watts is a fairer comparison between vacuums, I would personally disagree and choose to take it only as one data point.
the reason for this is because the Air Watts calculation tends to favour the vacuums that prioritise air flow when air flow is not actually the desired result. The air watts are measured as a function of air flow in an unrestricted environment. I don't have all the logical facts to present in place but intuitively, think about how pressure or resistance to air will affect the air flow. The air watts measurement favours the device that is designed/engineered to prioritse maximum air flow rather than suction, which is what the desired outcome of a vacuum is. In the case of Dyson, because their motors run at incredibly high speeds, it can achieve very high torque. Now torque does not necessarily relate to power and so when you put a restriction in front of the air flow, this is where you need power.
So when you are pulling air through floorboards, you aren't likely to hit the power limit because there is little resistance, however when you are pulling air through carpet, there is significantly more resistance to the air flow and so you MAY hit the power limit and thereby see increased effects from having a motor that is capable of delivering more power.
The other thing to consider that the entire system of the bagless vacuum is engineered so that you have maximum air flow at all times, this can ensure that it is producing as much airflow for minimal effort at all times but is also a tell tale sign of where it is most efficient. The bag vacuums are continuously producing suction through a filter bag.
It's not easy to test this but because the Dysons 100% have the safety cut out to 'protect the motor' and other brands have also introduced systems to detect when there is a blockage. But if you place a piece of paper in front of either one with all tools removed, you will be able to see how much effort it takes to remove it in one system vs the other.
@peter05: your point still stands but you're missing a couple things.
I have both a Miele C3 Complete , a v11 absolute, and a v11 outsize for reference.
Firstly, the older versions of the V11 do, as you say have 185AW of suction power. This however is outdated as the current V11 units (absolute extra and outsize) have had their motors retuned to produce 220AW of suction on boost.
Absolutely suction power is higher on my C3, however the fact that the plug in unit has either a non motorised head, or an air-driven turbine head means that either
A) There's no agitation to the carpet from the vacuum head, meaning that you are relying on brute force rather than an effecient design.
or
B) The air-driven turbine head works parasitically, usng some of the suction power to spin the floor head, effectively lowering how much suction actually gets to the floor.If miele or dyson were to bring out plug in, barrel vaccums with a powered floor head to agitate the carpet, it would be much more a case of apples to apples, however this is not currently the case.
Lastly, the suction power of the C3 is rated from an empty bag, as the bag fills there is more to obstruct its pores, effectively lowering performance the more that the unit is filled. This doesn't occur with Miele or Dyson's bagless units, as they have full suction until they reach capacity.
For full reference, I wholeheartedly agree that the high end corded, bagged units such as the C3 are great at what they do, however I do think you'll find that independent tests by resources such as Vacuum Wars (great videos on youtube) amongst others will provide you with a better, more empirically driven information on what vacuums function effectively.
@Anthropomorphised: Miele does produce a premium barrel vac with a powered floor head. (The powered floor head even screams, "I'm powered!" by having a light like many old uprights have had. It might only be sold in Europe, but it exists.
However, it costs north of $1000.
You can buy the head, which is apparently significantly heavier than the non-powered turbo head, separately for $375 here: https://www.staxappliances.com.au/miele-powerplus-intergrate…
However, Miele alleges it doesn't fit on the C3's standard hose, so YMMV. Some people here seem to have a different opinion, though, even pointing out where the electrical contacts for the power head are on different models although, again, YMMV: https://www.vacuumland.org/cgi-bin/TD/TD-VIEWTHREAD.cgi?4070…
In that same thread, someone indicates that the company that makes the powered head might be coming out with a battery-powered power head for Miele vacs without a power attachment.
@peter05: Seeing your other messages, I agree more so with the crux of what you're saying.
Just wanted to provide a little counterpoint :)
@peter05: Have you taken into consideration the rotating bristle head on the Dyson versus the Miele without it? I find the rotating bristle head digs deep down into the pile and pulls out dust etc that you cannot remove with suction alone. For carpet, I believe the motorised head plays a more vital role than suction. My in-laws have always used a decent corded vacuum, and when we took our V10 to theirs, the amount of crap the motorised head pulled out of the carpet was incredible. I’m talking 1/4 bin full per room in a house that gets vacuumed at least twice a week
@antik: So this is one of the gimmicks that technically you could apply to both models right. I used the Miele as it appears to be a fairly popular model as an example but there are a number of corded vacuums out there that have the motorised heads available as well.
What i'm saying is that Dyson has engineered their vacuum to do a lot with so little and although the performance is there for i would say 100% of hard floors whether it be tiles or wood, and probably say 80-90% of the way there for carpets.
I have personally used the V10 cordless, the V6 animals and am using a hoover allergy plus as my daily driver. There is definitely a certain level of freedom and carrying around the vacuum can be inconvenient. I don't usually get the cord tangled as i typically lift it from the handle. I've at least found that with the later models, they are becoming so heavy and a strain on the wrist that just having the barrel of a corded vacuums weight at the end of your hand has been very useful.
This particular vacuum also comes with the motorised head and I have personally preferred it over cordless. The cordless is super handy for a quick clean but I can't see myself doing the whole house with the cordless.
In terms of emptying the vacuum i also find that the bag system to be my personal preference. They're quite inexpensive and it beats shaking the other bins out over a large bin, or wasting a plastic bag to hold the waste.
Anyhow the main point i think that is important is that it's not cut and dry so simply and until you try it and give each system a decent chance you probably won't know which suits you better. Given the chance I think if the automatic vacuums perform decently, I would just go with one of the automatic robotic ones to do the hard floor areas. Either way IMHO the stick vacuum is a luxury if you're living in a house, because I can't imagine you would be able to do the whole house on a single charge! Having said that if you tend to clean a single room at a time, perhaps it would be perfectly fine!
The proof of the pudding is in the tasting. Go vacuum a carpet with your V11. Then go grab a decent corded one Vacuum and cover the same area.
Only then come back and Neg me.I don't mind Negs, its the childish mentality of some, that neg without explaining why and I can only guess is due to not liking anyone saying anything bad about their expensive purchase. That's childish.
@Borg: Also worth noting is that whenever they demo these units, they always demo with pebble sized stuff that you can see. Of course it makes sense as they want to impress you with how much crap it's picking up, but when it comes to dust its the stuff you don't see that's important to pick up
Plus, the corded one fluffs up the carpet real nice :D
@Borg: I upvoted you to cancel out the neg. There is no reason for the neg, you're not wrong, just expressing a different opinion, some people can't handle that.
@Borg: Okay I have the V11 and a Corded Dyson barrel vacuum. I will test your theory on one carpeted bedroom and report back.
@TinnyBum: Yes my Dyson DC29 barrel did pick up more dirt however the effort of having to “fight” against the constant pull of the barrel and cord made for strenuous effort.
@TinnyBum: Ah.I just post previous comment and you have already tested. Great to hear.
Personally, I do not have any issues with corded Vacs and used to pulling them around. My main point was that they suck up much more grit, dust & fluff compared to any handheld. I use Handhelds 90% of the time and once a month (if in the mood), will use the main corded Dyson for the deeper clean.
@TinnyBum: No you wrote: Once you buy a cordless vacuum cleaner you’ll never go back to dragging a cord around and plugging in each room.
Note the word "Never" :-)Anyhow, My original reply is that personally I will never give up my corded as they are required on the rare occasion for deep cleans. All good and understand what you mean and no doubt is what you also meant i.e. corded vacs gather dust between uses. This thread just got a little longer than what was intended :-)
@Borg: Well thanks for allowing me to clarify the point I was trying to make. Once I started using the V11 the D29 hasn’t been used until you made me use it. 🤪
@TinnyBum: Ha……indeed. Well perhaps "if" you were considering throwing it out like many people do when they buy a handheld, you may consider keeping it for a once in a blue moon "deep clean" to suck up what the handheld missed :-)
Sidenote: Its amazing how many people chuck out 100% working corded Dysons (and I will include older handheld models like DC6 in 100% working order). Crazy. All because there is a later model avail.
@TinnyBum: Excellent. Looking forward to your "honest" results. Just make sure they are both empty at start :-)
I assume your Corded Dyson has rotating brush head (Turbine) as that is important i.e. Apples for Apples (rotating brushes on both). Either that or do not use rotating brush head on either. Cheers@TinnyBum: How about using the corded first and then going over with the V11? Try that for a fair comparison
@Borg: Have you ever used a decent corded vacuum first, and then gone over with a cordless motorised head vacuum? Or only the other way around?
How would anyone spend $1000 for a Dyson when you can have a Dreame, which is equivalent under pretty much every aspect, for a fraction of the price, is beyond me.
You must be new lol!
Dyson is the APPLE of vacuum cleaners :p
The comparison is not really correct though. Apple offers a difference product, i.e. phones and computers have a different OS, which offer a different experience. You may like it or not, but it makes sense to spend more money for something undoubtedly different, if you prefer it. So Apple may be overpriced, but at least it's different than non-Apple products.
Dyson and Dreame on the other hand offer the same thhing, there is no difference of experience in using them, and no noticeable difference of performance. The quality of materials is basically the same so there's no difference in durability. It literally makes no sense to spend more than double the money for the same thing other than the name on it.
It literally makes no sense to spend more than double the money for the same thing other than the name on it.
That would be 100% true if it was relevant in this case, which it is not. The Dreame V11 and T20 have lesser suction performance specs than the Dyson V11, especially the V11 Outsize in this deal.
Dreame V11 & T20 - Suction 150 AW
Dyson V11 Outsize - Suction 220 AWOutsize has much larger bin and wider head, your decision if that is good or bad, either way, not the same.
Dyson V11 Outsize user swappable batteries, Dreame T20 has this, but Dreame V11 doesn't.
@snuke: Ah ok, my bad, wasn't aware the outsize had more power than the standard V11. So my comment applies to any other Dyson V11, I guess, not to this one in particular.
@liongalahad: Older V11 has 185AW, so still more powerful. I think the current V11 Complete is 200 AW (Dyson don't publish this, so hard to find)
Either way, still more powerful.I do agree though, it should be compared, the Dreame V11 is a great price for all that it offers, the T20 at full price is half that of the outsize, so still a huge difference. But as you can see, there is clearly an aspect of get what you pay for.
Indigo comments for the new Dreame T20 are not good reading for company support mind you.
@snuke: For reference, suction is identical in all the V11 units that feature the swappable batteries. These units were updated from the previous 185AW as you said, to now the area of 218-220AW.
I'm honoured.
dont agree, tried both in real life you get what you pay for and little some for the dreame, still dyson better.
Dreame is chinese? i wouldnt buy made in china.
the smartphone you wrote your comment on is most likely made in China fyi
Possibly. Made in China but not the Chinese brand.
Apple - US
Samsung - South KoreaXiomi is a Chinese brand. Buying their products is supporting it. That is the difference. I am not saying Xiomi is a bad brand though. Some of their product quality is good.
V11 Upsize is so heavy though, I would recommend other V11 versions if you don't absolutely need the bigger bag.
Yeah I agree.. I wonder why Dyson didn't discount the Absolute Extra :(
I think it sells better than Outsize that's why there is no discount on Absolute Extra.
We have this model. Its large and a little top heavy due to the larger canister. Using it as a handheld is not as convenient as the other models and I would assume the v11 Absolute would be much better and sufficient. The only plus to this model is not having to empty it as often. We've had this for about 3 months and its not even half filled. For a large house with huge floor space this is perfect otherwise be aware its not as quick and convenient like its previous models.
Be good if they released a more powerful v7/v8
they did, but unfortunately not officially on sale here in Aus (guess they never do, would hurt their V11 sale). That one is V8 carbon fibre, I got it (on Dyson eBay 2 years back) for V8 price but more powerful than V10 (surprise), not far behind V11 in term of suction. hi-end battery as V10.
Thanks OP, been on the wife's wish list for a very long time and this is a great price!
There returns? Not sure in heavyness
does anyone know if using the ebay promo code can be stacked by paying with an ebay gift card (that i have at 2% discount?) thanks
Yes, Use cashrewards for 5% if you want.
thanks - how do i do this? it says 1% on their site
i think the process is you buy "choice" gift cards which will give 5% cashback and then you trade them in for ebay gift cards on the choice gift card website
Thanks OP!! Cheapest I've seen this model so I snapped one. Was gonna buy it anyways in the future but why wait right.
How does this go with Cat fur in carpet? We have a chinchilla persian with thin white fur on dark carpet. The Dreame V9 struggles with it and requires a couple passes
Don’t bother with Dyson, I had a Dyson V8 which lasted just over 2 years when the plastic started to break in multiple places. I called Dyson and it was just 2 months out of the 24 month consumer law, they wanted $500 for the part.
Where as my trusty Xiaomi Gen 1 robot cleaner has been rock solid for 4 years with daily use… cost me $300 at the time…
I would never buy a Dyson again..
Nice review on Samsung Jet 90. If you have access to EPP its around $749.25 with Clean station. Would be a good deal.
The xiaomi dreame v11 would be a better bang for buck unit over this at $379
Emptying the bin looks terrible on that
Haha agreed!
Thanks OP - got one.
Great timing - our Dyson v6 (purchased 5 years ago from a similar GG eBay discount no less) just had it's second battery die a day ago and figure it's time to get a new one. It did have a few issues (battery died once, motorised head wore down to the point of scraping on the floor) but both were replaced by Dyson for free, even though both were out of warranty.
So very satisfied with the customer service and although 5 years is not a long time compared to the good old days (I have an aussie-made Vax wet and dry from the 80s from my grandparents that still works great), it's ok for the times we live in now. So happy to stick with Dyson due to general quality and support.
I was in the exact situation. This is much bigger. 60mins battery life is insane!
Gee, gone are the days when you could get a V6 for $435. Doubled in price over 5 years.
You can get a V7 for $399 today?
Even less
Thanks OP. Wife has been eyeing one off for months! Surprised how quiet it is in eco mode!
Got one thanks. Total cost $880.51 after cash rewards gift cards cashback. Pretty good deal.
This or Samsung Jet 90 complete for about $830?