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Herman Miller - Embody ($1630) & Aeron ($1590) @ LivingEdge

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Hi all,

Noticed there was a 'deal' on the HM Aeron but got taken down yesterday. Looks like the deal is back up?

Aeron - $1590 (https://livingedge.com.au/shop-in-stock/herman_miller-aeron_...)
Embody - $1630 (https://livingedge.com.au/chairs/office-chairs/herman_miller...)

If you are familiar with the Embody's pricing, you'll know this is a crazy discount (quick glance, sees pricing at $2K min for the Embody).

I just visited my local Living Edge and put a deposit on the Embody, ETA end of June/early July.

I was informed that the sale will end on June 30.

Good luck, sorry this is my first post - hope it comes out OK!

UPDATE 16/06/2021

I received the below update from Living Edge. Not ideal, but I'll probably just keep my order in. Keep this in mind if you are considering ordering.

We have recently been advised of another COVID-19 outbreak in the Guangdong district. This has shut down the shipping line without notice and our containers never left.

All our Embody stock that was due to arrive in mid-July has now been pushed back to mid-September.

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    can claim 100% on tax?

    • -2 votes

      furniture is hard to claim as you can't use shortcut method

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        What is the shortcut method?

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      it's done like 10 years for prime cost and 15 years for diminishing (bigger claims upfront but runs long due to the very small tail end)

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      If it was under $300 then yes I understand. In this case probably over 10years depreciation.

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    Got sick of replacing chairs every couple of years, finally tried out HM Aeron and Embody and Steelcase Gesture and Leap. Ended up going with Steelcase Gesture. Best decision ever, love it. Comfortable, solid, cheaper than HM.

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      I have also purchased the Gesture last week from the Steelcase 25% off promo. Never tried it, just made the decision based on some Youtube review videos. Now still waiting for the chair, hopefully no regret on the decision.

  • +4 votes

    This is definitely worthy to buy if you sitting more than 6 hours in front of your computer.

    It is not a chair will makes you feel different with other chairs when you sitting on it for a short while. But if you sit for a few hours, then you will feel the difference.

    In my opinion the only problem of this chair is…. it is too comfortable for long time sitting, which makes you forget to stand up regularly to have a walk.

    Plus it is with 12 year warranty. I had my embody since 2010 and I have contact Living Edge to do an maintenance of my chair this year, they replace the cover, arms and wheels for free.

    I've bought a Herman Miller COSM from Living Edge….and I am thinking of getting another embody as the price is very attractive.

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      Thanks for pointing that out.
      I already use a convertible standing desk for this reason, sitting for 10 hours each day has led to massage/physio/chiro expenses in the past.

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      does the cosm compare better or worse than the embody?

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        I already have an Embody and I want to try out the latest product so I bought a COSM. I worked with my girlfriend in one home office so we can switch chairs if necessary.

        I would like to say if they are same price I will definitely go for embody.

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          what are the differences you've noticed? Id appreciate the long winded elaboration.

  • +2 votes

    good price. if this is out of your range, though, i highly recommend searching the used market. i got a similar chair - an ergohuman - for around $300 locally, and its been a treat.

    • +4 votes

      100% agree, definitely check what you can get locally second hand.

      I was very close to pulling the trigger on a second hand one for about $650 (bargained down from $800), but after inspecting it I realised it was the ' Aeron classic', which HM stopped making in 2005, meaning it was potentially +16 years old.

      There's a guide which shows the difference between 'classic' and 'remastered' - I'd recommend people familiarise themselves with the differences to ensure they know what they're getting and what to look for (and maybe a better price).

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    Best chair ever. Sitting on it now and thinking of getting another one for my customers coming in.

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    Am I the only one still waiting for an ergohuman sale ?
    XDDDD

    • +1 vote

      There was one a few days ago - https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/626640

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        thank you <3

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        just bought the full leather one

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      Just so you know. I have an ergohuman. It's ok but there is a noticeable difference between an Aeron and an Ergohuman. If you have never sat in an Aeron you probably won't know what you are missing out on so no big deal.

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        can you go into more detail please ;)

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          It just isn't as comfortable for me. I sat on them back to back for a week (Trialed the Aeron then bought the Ergohuman). So i just went from one to another and went hmmm not that great. Basically I regretted saving the $1000 but I cbf returning the Ergohuman so i just kept it lol. O also it's creaking now after 2 years.

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            @MrMoo: cheers, did you use the ergonomic adjustments to set it up perfectly and still not find it comfortable? as the luxury has class leading adjustability.

            • +1 vote

              @abuch47: Yes all the adjustments were set up. The comfort problem came from the mesh seating and you can't adjust that. No problems with the arm rests and lumbar.

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                @MrMoo: thanks, it seems ergohuman has many different mesh types available but thats exactly the issue I had with it. the mesh was scratchy and rough to sit on and it was a lightly used 2nd hand green elite v2. I am unsure if this is a quality issue or a mesh issue.

  • +7 votes

    Just wanted to post my experience with my Herman Miller Aeron chair. Have had the chair for over 14 years. Absolutely love the chair, no issues with hydraulics in all this time.

    6 years ago the seat portion developed a crack at the back which caused it to lift up when I was sitting. I contacted Living Edge and sent some photos of the problem, which they then forwarded onto the US. Within a month and under warranty the seat had arrived from the US and Living Edge sent someone to my home and fixed it on the spot for an 8 year old chair at the time.

    Love the chair and love the service and warranty that come with it.

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      what kind of warranty are we talking about?

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        12 year warranty from Living Edge.

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          the warranty from living edge is dissapointing

          • +3 votes

            @khoed792: Plenty of others who have had good warranty experiences with Living Edge.

  • +1 vote

    wondering if I cancel my Steelcase leap 2 order and go for this instead.

    • +3 votes

      I'm wondering the same; have tried emailing ARKI with a request to cancel my order and calling their contact number (got sent to the answering machine) in hopes of doing so.

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        please keep me posted, I'll also email in.

        • +3 votes

          Just got a call back and the order was cancelled. I was advised that the chair I ordered was still in a container shipped from the factory but hadn't arrived yet, so it seemed pretty straightforward to cancel the order as the chair would just be reallocated to another customer. If you're plannning on cancelling via a phone call as well you mmay need to confirm the last 4 digits of your credit card as that's all the system would display.

          Just need to wait for the refund to be fully processed so I can get an Embody.

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            @polaris luminous: cool, did they call you back from email or missed call?

            got a call back
            emailed for cancellation

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              @impoze: Yeah they called me back.

              Did you manage to cancel your order when you got called back?

    • +1 vote

      A lot of people seemed to prefer the Leap 2 over the Aeron from the Leap 2 thread a month ago. Any reason why you would reconsider?

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        the embody seems like an upgrade again

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          Interesting, a lot of reviews seem to point at the Aeron being more comfortable than the Embody. I'm so confused! haha

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            @ShinK0: thinking to give the store a visit on the weekend.

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              @impoze: I'm in Melbourne so I'm stuck. If you so happen to have time, please drop a review.

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            @ShinK0: IMHO and this is echoed above, Embody is more comfortable, Aeron keeps you in better posture.

            When I sit in the Embody I notice the comfort but it does allow me to sit "wrongly" for my back problem, when I sit in an Aeron, I really don't feel anything, it's kind of a neutral experience (when compared to the high-end chairs, still way better than cheapo ones) but it becomes more uncomfortable if your posture is off.

            • +1 vote

              @yannyrjl: Thank you for the feedback, I guess the Embody it is!

  • +4 votes

    Got both of these, and the Embody is my favourite.

    Look around though - some places place bulk orders and you can save a tonne. I got mine for $1295 + $86 delivery from Innerspace.

    The only catch is you have to get all black (no customisations).

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      You were able to buy it as a retail customer for bulk pricing?

    • +3 votes

      wow that's cheap when did buy it and how did you negotiate

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        +1

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        I think they used to advertise it on their website. But I definitely did talk to them via email (as I was seeing if I could get it in blue). They said:

        “ We only carry the Embody in all black in stock. The lead time for special order is 14-16 weeks.

        In addition the unit rate would be more expensive by $357 + GST. This is not because the blue fabric is more expensive, it is just we receive discounts for placing large single orders in one colour from Herman Miller which we pass on to our clients.

        When we order a single chair in a specific colour, we don't get the discounts to pass on.”

        This was from their director, Barry.

        I did try and get Sit Back Relax to price match via email but they said the best they could do was $1425 with a 12 week lead time. They said the reason was that there was only one importer and they ordered direct from USA. Not sure if that’s true anymore though…

        Also, this was from mid 2014, so things might have changed…

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          thanks Nebula. everything is getting more expensive after 7 years

    • +3 votes

      What’s your K:D before and after buying these?

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      Embody is my favourite

      why? please go into detail

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    what's the return policy like? what happens if it just doesn't suit my back?

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      You really need to try before you buy a ~$1500 chair. Everyone's body/posture is different.

      • +1 vote

        Yeah that's what I mean. Worried it might feel good in the 5 mins I try in store, but after a week of properly trying, it doesn't suit. Anyone tried to return instore?

        • +1 vote

          I purchased from Sit Back Relax at Alexandria, spent over an hour there trying all the seats and had great service. They offered 14 days no charge return (I picked up myself so didn't have to deal with Delivery costs). They are also selling the Aeron for $1,590, no discount for Embody :(

          Sitting on it now as I type

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            @yannyrjl: Sounds perfect. Shame living edge cannot do the same

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            @yannyrjl: Will they price match?

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              @impoze: Possibly because it looks like they dropped price for the Aeron to match, give them a call and see, although they told me that their main customers are businesses with retail customers only accounting a much very smaller fraction.

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    embody or an ergohuman elite/luxury v2?

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      two different leagues of budget

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        of course, quality/comfort/ergonomics is more what concerns me…

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      If money is no question, and you sit in both you will regret buying the Ergohuman (Source: I've sat in both). If money is a question, the Ergohuman is better for your budget obviously.

      If you never sit in an Aeron and just get the Ergohuman, it should be ok.

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        Ive sat in a 2nd hand ergo ($400 on scummy) and even with the class leading ergonomics (adjustment) the mesh was rough (read tough and scratchy).

        was specifically asking about embody as I prefer the full length support. I wish their was more objectiveness or at least in depth reviews.

        • +1 vote

          Yer agreed the mesh is a bit rough. I also had to get used to it as my legs felt a bit sore sitting on it for 8 hours a day. I'm used to it now so no big deal.

          Sorry no idea on the embody but if my logic holds more expensive = better! lol.

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          They are two different classes of product. You are sacrificing quality with the ergohuman in exchange for price. I have had many different chairs, nothing comes close to the embody.

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            @gromit: have you had the ergohuman?

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              @abuch47: personally no, my wife has it as she doesn't use her office chair anywhere near the extent I do, it is ok for a cheapish midrange chair, but you are getting what you pay for, it is not any where near quality and comfort of the embody.

              I also have an Onex gaming chair from Costco (given as a present when a family member saw the worn nature of my embody chair from 15 years of use and I still use my embody over that $800 item as well, it sits in the corner unused)l

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                @gromit: nice I tried them all out today and they are great, what did the ergo set you back?

    • +1 vote

      Ergohuman is average, I sat in one at a friend's place on multiple occasions for 10 hours straight. Looks impressive online but you get what you pay for. At that price perhaps the Herman Miller Sayl (although doesn't have a headrest)

  • +1 vote

    I guess Im lucky.. my arse wouldnt know the difference in a $200 and $1600 chair

    • +6 votes

      Same. We have these Aerons and Leaps in the office and I really don't get what the fuss is about. Not denying they're better than a $99 IKEA chair but $1,600 worth?

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        possibly how long they last, comfort, ergonometry and recycled >95% although HM in asia pacific is all built in their chinese factory.

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        Well they sold for $1k a few years ago so they probably are overpriced now.

        That said, there is really not many alternate options out there for a really good chair even if you have a smaller budget.

        The leap v2 for $941 in the last deal is a very fair chunk cheaper than $1.6k. And soon to be $1.8k now that HM put their prices up.

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          Embody at less than 1k??? I bought mine over a decade ago and even then it was over 2k. The only time I am aware they were a lot cheaper was when the Aussie dollar was more than us dollar.

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    There is also a good deal on the Cosm High Back Work Chair: https://livingedge.com.au/chairs/office-chairs/herman_miller...

    The discount is not on the fixed arms, just the leaf arms (or no arms). A very good price for $1,430 in graphite.

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      Wow thats a great price considering how much they usually go for.

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        Yeah, I was looking at the Glacier but that's at retail of $2,410. Great chair and I prefer the high back. Graphite it is.

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          lack of adjustability is kind of offputting to me. Crazy to see Embody and Cosm on such heavy discount but Aeron is relatively thin.

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          Canyon for me has that wow factor, but not for that price nightfall would be good compromise

          Its designed to have a lack of user adjust ability and be 'auto' adjusting depending on the users weight

  • +1 vote

    Embody vs Leap?

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      For me Embody easily (better build quality, better foam, better looking, screams luxury) especially at this price

      However, Leap V2 is a very good ergonomic office chair (looks damn office chair as well, it has nearly all the adjustments to suit nearly everyone, I use them at work, they are comfortable and supportive, it's an all rounder but non of features are worth writing home about)

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    Used an Aeron for almost five years at work. Love the adjustability, but can't believe that it is $1000 better than a $500 chair (and right now I'm sitting on a $120 Aldi chair).

  • +2 votes

    Claimed price protection… yeehaww..

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    Hmmm the Embody or the Aeron?

    Really tempted by the Embody given the price compared to RPP.

    But the Aeron has been constantly cited as the crème de la crème.

    Guess I need to try in person.

    • +1 vote

      Yeah same.. only reason I'm even considering embody right now is cause of the massive discount..

    • +2 votes

      I tried both and went with the Aeron. The Embody has more adjustability which I didn't need (such as extending the seat base further out).
      I think if they were the same price I would still go for an Aeron.

    • +2 votes

      From what I have read the Embody is more forgiving of poor posture, so if you are someone who occasionally likes to tilt to one side or sit cross legged it wins in that category.

    • +2 votes

      I would go for the Embody as someone who has an Aeron. They are basically the same price but Embody has more adjustability/flexibility compared to Aeron, which is why it has higher cost. Aeron mesh is slightly more comfortable though but the chair is not adjustable at all. I think if I went back I would get the Embody since I got the Aeron for the tilt forward feature which I don't end up using.

    • +2 votes

      Couple years ago I was set on an Aeron but when I tried out a nearby Embody my butt overtook my brain and said "Get the Embody".

      I got the Embody. No ragrets

  • +1 vote

    After increasingly expensive Office Works chairs kept breaking on me (the last costing in the region of $360) I bit the bullet and bought and Embody back in 2014. So much more comfortable than any other office chair I've tried and has been completely reliable.

  • -3 votes

    I wonder how many people actually bought this over priced chair?

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    God damn it so tempted…. must resist

  • +3 votes

    This is an amazing deal for the Embody. If I did not have one I would jump on this

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    I have an Aeron and I dislike it. Make sure you try before you buy.

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    I have both the Aeron and the Embody. I prefer the Embody massively over the Aeron. Currently you can only get aftermarket headrests for the Aeron but apparently one is getting designed by Atlas for the Embody and should be out in 6-12 months.

    Same price I bought mine for a few years ago.

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      I prefer the Embody massively over the Aeron

      but y doe?