[Ebayplus] Apple TV 4K 32GB (2017) $165.60 Delivered @ The Good Guys eBay
Original Coupon Deal
Note: You'd get the old remote with this, not the newer improved one (https://www.apple.com/au/shop/product/MJFM3LL/A/siri-remote)
Yeah, but this is $70 cheaper
why new remote improved?
it is actually missing many stuff of the old remote
Well I can say this remote is a pain in the ass to use for old people imo
No proper tactile response during navigation
Good deal! Beats the JB deal by about $10
I'm very happy with the touch remote
Mostly use the quick access iPhone remote anyway, the Siri remote usually ends up hidden in between couch cushions
I am an Apple person and use it as my core eco-system, however the Apple TV is so closed compared to Android TV. I've no idea why someone technology competent would choose Apple TV over devices like Shield and even MiBox.
To name just a few off the top of my head: Native AirPlay, easy audio streaming to AirPods (I.e no need to pair), multi-device synchronisation, built-in remote app, form factor
Honestly once you get Plex set up and working, I don’t see how you’re missing much useful features with this
Fair point re casting.
but plex transcoding video quality is not same as playing it natively on kodi?
aTV direct plays a reasonably large variety of formats
Ultimately the onus is on you to make sure your Plex server has media that your devices can direct play - once you’ve done that then no worries
I guess if you’re just renting a Plex share then there’s issues outside of your control but you’re also kind of paying for that convenience
and if we’re arguing about tech savvy people, then surely you’ll have your own server and you can make sure the formats are prepared appropriately prior to streaming
But for non-tech savvy (rich) people (especially with the new remote) there really isn’t much of a debate on which is better
We have both, a Shield Pro and an Apple TV. Mainly because we have a split OS household, with some Android users and some go for Apple.
We all use screen-sharing/casting a lot, so it made sense to have two systems. I didn't tell my wife how much the Shield costs though….
Honestly, I'd say it depends what ecosystem you are in. Apple users can cast some apps to the Shield, but Android users can't really cast to the Apple TV (thanks Apple…).
but not being able to install kodi on apple tv is shit..
kodi just makes the media player 100x better
with all the addons etc..
True, but I've found alternatives that work well.
@Intake: what alternatives?
are you talking about the cripple kodi fork - MrMC ie with no addons support?
or something else?
as far as i know apple is very strict about any apps that let you install other addons they don't like
@pinkybrain: VLC, Infuse 7 and there is another one I cant recall right now.
Maybe it doesnt do add-ons, but it lets me watch videos on my network.
@Intake: howcome you don't use MrMc which would have more nicer interface than those other apps?
yeah not sure what is the point of buying apple hardware no matter good it is…
if you end up having to use this inferior apps..
only reason is you actually watch apple tv stuff etc..
getting android player with kodi and addons is much better
even the nvidia is superior in freedom in what you can do.
The UI is better on this, the performance is better on this, airplay is amazing if you have an iphone, this outputs sound to your airpods at the click of a button, and so on.
Just like with most things apple make, they "just work" and they work easily and brilliantly. The only reason to get a shield TV is if you want to do emulation, but even then it's only good up to about the Dreamcast. Even wii games run poorly.
You're selling the Shield a bit short though. I have never seen a Plex server run on an Apple TV. Can't run a NAS service on an Apple TV either. Or use it to stream games from my PC.
Agree with the unity of the Apple ecosystem. If you have Apple hardware, an Apple TV just makes sense.
I bought a 2019 Shield TV Pro to act as a Plex server so I could retire my i5 NUC that literally only serves Plex. I took the Shield TV Pro back as the Plex server is utterly terrible on it, at least when the media it's serving isn't stored locally on the Shield. The Plex Server would constantly just stop, sometimes after a few minutes, sometimes a few hours, even when I was just on the web admin configuring and scanning etc. I uninstalled and reinstalled the Plex server a number of times, and factory reset the whole thing and set it all up again 3 separate times over a week. Every single time I'd get the exact same problems. I had a brand new WD SSD plugged in via USB with Plex storage on it, with it set to have that USB port always powered on. Hardwired with gigabit ethernet, Synology DS920+ NAS hardwired to the same network.
There must be a reason why it's the only Android device that can act as a Plex Server, and it's because Android Plex Server is garbage.
Apple TV can stream games from PC btw. I have the AMD game streaming and Steam streaming on mine.
apple is extremely restrictive in the wall garden
you can't do anything outside of apple's own rules about what apps can be installed on it..
not being to able install kodi on apple tv is the biggest negative for me
no matter how good apple tv hardware is..
apple hardware is great
but their draconian rules about what we can do with hardware is not.
That is a VERY good price for an all-singing all-dancing media player!
Brave buying it right before any potential upgrades are announced in less than 12 hours
The new model was announced last month.
I'm sure he meant WWDC 2021 that will be held tonight.
They won’t be releasing newer model one month after the other or discontinuing a similar spec previous gen model?
Also this TV is this price because of newer model.
If you have decent home theatre, I would get a shield - audio formats are limited on the apple
Also, the lack of being able to connect a hard drive/thumb drive is pretty stupid
Worth looking at a Zapitti media player for a decent home theatre. Better picture and sound quality. Cost a lot more though.
How much better is the new remote ? Is it worth spending the extra and get the latest model?
The old remote is garbage. You have to navigate the UI's completely via a track pad.
I've got one and I'm going to buy the new remote for the $70 or whatever it costs, so if this model is only $70 cheaper than the new one, get the new one.
Thanks for the info!!!
Will pay the extra and get the latest model
I actually think the key feature difference between this model and the new 2021 4K ATV is that the new model has better integration with HomePod(s), and specifically, the new ATV 4K has a feature that enables both default audio routing to HomePod AND using the return channel to route all device's audio through the HomePod. So in theory, it's possible to have a home theatre made up of a HomePod (or pair of) and an ATV and that's it. TV audio and PS5, etc through HomePod. I might be explaining poorly, but that's the key thing making me hold out when choosing between this great price and missing features.