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CyberPower Value Pro 700VA 390W UPS (VP700ELCD) $103.20 ($100.62 eBay Plus) Delivered @ Futu via eBay
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Wouldn't you just buy a better power board instead?
If you have a blackout, you still risk having your electronics die. Those happen more often so I didn’t mention it. The power board doing what it did is not anything I’ve ever seen before from a Belkin.
A powerboard doesn't provide good protection from brown outs. A UPS can.
a bit confused with your statement. does that mean you connect your powerboard to the UPS, and all your computer stuff connect to the powerboard ?
in other words, your powerboard is a medium between your electronics equipment and UPS ?
You could, but I put the UPS between power board and computer. It only has a few ports, I don’t want it powering unnecessary items.
Seems to come with a tiny battery, just enough for an orderly shutdown.
Can you connect a decent external 12V deep-cycle battery to get a couple hours backup?I dont think its designed for this.
Sure with a bit of DIY. I have a 500W connected to an external 40AH AGM battery. Only thing is the UPS always thinks I've got 10 mins runtime left or whatever for the load based on the standard battery.
Just don't use a flooded lead acid battery, don't want those fumes inside.
I have a sealed calcium battery. They OK indoors?
I'm not too familiar with calcium batteries but don't they need a higher charge voltage anyway? Wouldn't think they'd be suitable
@bamzero: Thanks. I think I should just look at a DC solution anyway. My server and all gear will run on 12V.
How do you stop the UPS shutting down an over load? I have one of these and an old APC ups. The APC allows a much higher drain than it is spec'd to support on battery. This unit shuts down when it hits 100% on AC.
Well I guess the obvious answer is not to overload it. The APC may have a little more tolerance (I tend to think they are a better UPS anyway) but still not a good idea to overload, even if just when on AC.
From memory when I first got it I did test a full load and it gave me a warning, not an immediate shutdown. I have the 900VA pure sinewave though, so maybe it's just one of the caveats of the value range.
Would this be enough to power a 3080/5600x if my house power goes off for about 3 seconds once a day?
it is a very short power UPS, this type really is for short blackouts or brownouts. So yes it would do the job you need it to, I am unsure of their software system though, some force a shutdown on loss of power.
It will last for about 3 minutes maybe if you’re running the gpu. On idle maybe 15 minutes. It comes with an app and a cable to plug into your computer which tells you your power draw, battery status and estimated runtime. It’ll beep when it goes off so you can save everything etc.
A 3080 uses 320W of power at peak. This leaves only 70W for CPU, Mobo, drives, etc. You'll probably overload the UPS when the system is under load. I have a Cyberpower 700VA BRIC UPS with a 3070/RX570/3700X and it's overloading under load. Planning to upgrade to a Cyberpower 1200VA (720W) BRIC.
Mine has a 450w bios on it but while idling at desktop and mining it only uses 240. Might look at a bigger one
If you’re gaming and the lights (and probably internet) goes out then just quit and shut down anyway. Small battery but should be more than sufficient for this use case. Don’t forget to consider load of monitor too though.
You need a big ups for that, you can also make them using Victron Muiltplus and a battery.
They have AC transfer built in and can bet set up in UPS mode.
35 of these much cheaper than a powerwall 2
BE AWARE, these Cyberpower units (and of the others in the current Cyberpower series) have NON REPLACEABLE BATTERY. So you will need to throw out the whole unit once the battery dies
Thanks you just saved me, was looking at either replacing batteries in my current UPS or buying this one for almost the same price but I'll just replace the batteries in my current one then!
How long do the batteries in these types of UPS's last before they need to be thrown away?
The warranty is only for 2 years and heavily depends on usage. I've had UPS batteries die in barely 2 years and some others that have lasted 3-5 if barely used. One thing you can be certain of is that the DO die especially given they are sealed Lead Acids and of the non deep cycle variety so they don't like to be discharged fully….which ironically is what a UPS does do when there is a power failure. Non deep cycle Lead Acid battery life is HEAVILY shortened the moment the battery is deep cycled and the more times the faster the death.
Importantly you usually won't know your battery is dead until it kicks in to be used. My last UPS battery looked like it was fine and the unit never reported a fault until I had a power outage and the battery was dead.
I would totally avoid any UPS with a non replaceable battery. Bad long term ownership and bad for the environment.
Cyberpower is pretty dodgy to be selling them without making it explicitly clear in the purchase information. I only discovered it after reading the Datasheets.
Easily user replacable if you own a screwdriver. See previous threads. It's just a normal sealed 12v 7ah battery.
Are you sure this is the same models you are talking about? The older models did have replaceable batteries but these I believe don't
It would be great if you could link to those discussions so we can verify.
@lemony: Nice work mate thanks! I see you posted some photos of the opening in that thread, thank you. It's going on my shopping list now. Thanks again for the photos.
That's what I would have thought unless it is glued shut. Seems pretty environment unfriendly if that's the case
Other consideration at that point is the surge protection, as it's based on MOVs which can quietly degrade. Unlike the battery, you can't check its condition or replace it. So if you've used a UPS for so long that it needs a battery replacement, you should probably assume the surge protection is basically expired, and put it behind a surge board.
Not totally correct. The CyberPower BRIC-LCD series has user replaceable hot-swappable batteries. I bought one of these yesterday.
https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/363406498243?hash=item549cb719c3… (not bought from this seller)
I'd be surprised if it was non replaceable. Maybe not user replaceable which just means you can't swap it out without tools, but nothing a screwdriver can't handle probably.
I've got the Cyberpower 1200VA BRIC (https://www.cyberpower.com/au/en/product/sku/br1200elcd). It has a user replaceable battery, so it sounds like you need to check the specs for each model..
Would this be better? 800VA and is APC more reputable?
https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/APC-Easy-UPS-BVS800I-AZ-800VA-45…only thing you dont get is a lcd screen to show you stuff.
Thanks OP.
Small capacity device, and decent price.
I picked up one of these VP700ELCD via https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/592487
Currently use VP700ELCD for my NBN HFC, Telstra Smart Modem (for 4G failover), and UDM. The VP700ELCD capacity is a bit overkill for those 3 relatively low-powered devices.
Been using the VP1600ELCD for my day-to-day PC/gear.
Both Cyberpower UPS have been great for those random brown/black outs triggered by the grid, and sometimes triggered by myself when we crank up the air-conditioner/heaters.
Anyone got any recommendations for GTX 3080 i9 11900F 850W computer to just safely shut down after a power cut?
This VP700ELCD 700VA 390W may be a bit too small for your PC.
Considering that your PC can get quite thirsty (just the GTX 3080 might sap up to 350W), you may want to consider a bigger battery, e.g. 1000VA+
The VP1600ELCD 1600VA 960W should give you a nice cushion for the PC and the ability to also allow you to plug in your (gaming) monitor(s) behind the UPS.
Cheers mate, gives me a place to start.
I have had my unraid server, router and pi plugged into this for a while now.
manages around 35mins if the power goes down, which is even more when the server auto shutsdown.
Good deal to prevent data curroption afaik.currently use this on my PC, from previous OZB deals, plan to use this for my Synology 920 and get another UPS for my PC
was thinking to use this for both NAS 920+ and my desktop PC with 1660 super, but i think a bit weak
https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/APC-BX700-700VA-UPS-3-Outlet-Sur…
any comment folks?thinking of getting the one OP posted here, but then, i think below is cheaper with 450 wattage?
https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/APC-Easy-UPS-BVS800I-AZ-800VA-45…Problem is which one will you connect the USB cable to for initiating a shutdown? That’s why I ended up with two UPS. I did consider toying around with the network monitoring but figured may as well have two so I could support my router and switch too.
Thanks :)
Anyone know if these shut down after 10mins on low loads like a router or aquarium filter (<6w)
They’ll shut down when the battery runs flat. They work better with devices which can do a controlled shutdown when the battery kicks in.
Green UPS like Eaton 5E will shut off when it detects light loads. This is because the inverter draw a fair bit even without load.
Would like to know if this is the case with this model
Sorry wish I could tell you. Cyberpower does publish all their specs/manuals/etc online so that might be worth reading through if you're interested.
I bought one of these for my HP N40L running Xpenology with 6x 4TB drives, according to the front display at idle my server would manage 55 minutes of run time. I am currently expanding from 5x 4TB drives (used the Ironwolf 4TB deal posted on here) and it drops to 47 minutes at moments during this build process, so I guess under load it's 47m and idle is 55m
Geez a UPS saved me when my power board decided to blow itself up yesterday. If you're running a nice computer setup, this is a worthy buy.